s********y 发帖数: 769 | 1 http://texasshawshank.wordpress.com/
Der Untergang ist ein Deutscher Film. Its English name is Downfall, it’s
based on a memoir of Traudl Junge, Hilter’s youngest personal sectary.
Unlike other mainstream movies about Adolf Hitler and the final days of the
third Reich, which predominantly depict Hitler and people surrounding him as
pure lunatics and evils, this film reveals the human side of them. Despite
the atrocities he committed to Jews and the rest of the world, he was
approachable, and und... 阅读全帖 |
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s******n 发帖数: 99 | 2 观《帝国的毁灭》的几点体会
王在田
Der Untergang
这部片子高度写实,再现了柏林沦陷前最后12天的情景,许多细节与台词在各种二战回
忆录里读到过,完全可以当作一部历史纪录片来看。
看完之后翻出了《第三帝国的兴亡》(The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by
William L. Shirer),重拾近二十年前的阅读记忆。
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希姆莱Heinrich Himmler眼神阴郁,叫人捉摸不透。
扮演希姆莱的演员比历史上的希姆莱帅得多。从肖像上看,希姆莱圆圆的脸蛋,身材不
高,更像亚洲人,如果换上一套日本将军装束的话估计很难辨认。
执掌党卫军的希姆莱心思缜密,最终却在这一点上栽了跟头。大战结束时他试图隐姓埋
名便装逃回老家巴伐利亚,并伪造了完备的身份证件。盘查的英军士兵不禁纳闷:这兵
荒马乱的,这家伙怎么会好整以暇带着如此整齐的文件资料?于是便把他扣押起来。。
。。。。
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希姆莱的联络副官菲戈莱因Hermann Fegelein出身骑兵,在东线清剿苏军游击队立有战
功,后来成了爱娃的妹夫也就是希特勒的连襟。片中暗示了他与爱娃的暧昧关系,希特
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l**********r 发帖数: 1807 | 3 里面希特勒寻问各处战报的段子给恶搞了n多次了
观《帝国的毁灭》的几点体会王在田Der Untergang这部片子高度写实,再现了柏林沦
陷前最后12天的情景,许多细节与台词在各种二战回忆录里读到过,完全可以当作一部
历史纪录片........
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f**********4 发帖数: 2617 | 4 这么政治不正确的事情,德国人既没可能也没意愿去做。要拍也只会拍拍Der
Untergang之类的历史片了。 |
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c******g 发帖数: 4889 | 5 是《Der Untergang》这部片子吧?
当然拍得好啊,你看看希特勒发火那一段在youtube上被多少人乱配搞笑字幕就知道了
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r******t 发帖数: 8967 | 6 Stalingrad片子不错,但故事一般。
要说好,《Der Untergang》那才德国 |
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s********e 发帖数: 11693 | 7 好帖子,知道了几个没看过的好片。总结一下提到的片子:
拯救大兵瑞恩
The Thin Red Line
The Big Red One
Come and See
遥远的桥
桂河大桥
Kelly's Heros
《春天的十七个瞬间》
苏联版的《战争与和平》
<不列斯特要塞>
《库尔斯克》
Stalingrad
Das Boot
Der Untergang
<这里的黎明静悄悄>
<士兵之歌>
瓦尔特保卫萨拉热窝
兄弟连
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b******3 发帖数: 4385 | 8 The Decline of the West (German: Der Untergang des Abendlandes), or The
Downfall of the Occident, is a two-volume work by Oswald Spengler, the first
volume of which was published in the summer of 1918. Spengler revised this
volume in 1922 and published the second volume, subtitled Perspectives of
World History, in 1923.
The book introduces itself as a "Copernican overturning" and rejects the
Euro-centric view of history, especially the division of history into the
linear "ancient-medieval-modern... 阅读全帖 |
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d******n 发帖数: 159 | 10 [帝国的毁灭].Der.Untergang.2004 |
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p******a 发帖数: 413 | 12 刚出的时候看的,就看了一遍,到现在还印象深刻。好片,但题材有些争议。 |
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j*****1 发帖数: 1107 | 13 what a shame it didn't get a chance to be on big screen because of obvious
reasons. |
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s*******n 发帖数: 12995 | 14 what reason? human side of Hitler? |
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j*****1 发帖数: 1107 | 15 precisely. Some people in the US don't want the rest of us to know that
Hitler can sometimes be reasonable and nice to his secretary, cook and house
keeper, among many others.
youtube comments reveal such facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp1RXmM1-60 |
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s*******n 发帖数: 12995 | 16 我觉的这正是导演想要表达的意思。一个犯下如此滔天罪行的人也是象我们一样的普通
人,也就是说像我们一样的普通人,而不是一个千年难遇的恶魔,也同样有可能犯下滔
天罪行,这才是世人要警惕的。
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p******a 发帖数: 413 | 17 The only crime Hitler committed was losing the war |
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j*****1 发帖数: 1107 | 18 This was overall a superb movie, with only a few minor flaws. More than
anything this movie brought to my mind the following paradox. We are always
shocked whenever we learn the identity of a serial killer, and we realize
how ordinary he was despite his evil. In contrast, with Hitler, we are so
overcome by his evil that we are surprised and shocked to see how ordinary
he really was. I think the last dinner, with Hitler slouched over and
slurping his ravioli gives good illustration to how ordinar... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****1 发帖数: 1107 | 19 This was overall a superb movie, with only a few minor flaws. More than
anything this movie brought to my mind the following paradox. We are always
shocked whenever we learn the identity of a serial killer, and we realize
how ordinary he was despite his evil. In contrast, with Hitler, we are so
overcome by his evil that we are surprised and shocked to see how ordinary
he really was. I think the last dinner, with Hitler slouched over and
slurping his ravioli gives good illustration to how ordinar... 阅读全帖 |
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J********9 发帖数: 36508 | 20 der untergang,以前就有被拿来对过嘴:)
这个对嘴对的相当不错,大木梯以前弄得那个新
闻对嘴也不错。 |
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s*****y 发帖数: 752 | 21 Der Untergang 中文叫做帝国的坠落
你去找der untergung这部电影其实无非就是希特勒还幻想着不存在或者已经被包围的
军队来保卫柏林,将军们说了实话,希特勒发了通脾气最后无奈地接受战争已经失败的
现实
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b***e 发帖数: 15201 | 22 【 以下文字转载自 PhotoGear 讨论区 】
发信人: yellowspring (你走你的阳关道), 信区: PhotoGear
标 题: 观《帝国的毁灭》的几点体会 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jul 20 19:54:42 2012, 美东)
发信人: stallion (Kendall/43619*), 信区: History
标 题: 观《帝国的毁灭》的几点体会
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 19 09:02:10 2012, 美东)
观《帝国的毁灭》的几点体会
王在田
Der Untergang
这部片子高度写实,再现了柏林沦陷前最后12天的情景,许多细节与台词在各种二战回
忆录里读到过,完全可以当作一部历史纪录片来看。
看完之后翻出了《第三帝国的兴亡》(The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by
William L. Shirer),重拾近二十年前的阅读记忆。
1
希姆莱Heinrich Himmler眼神阴郁,叫人捉摸不透。
扮演希姆莱的演员比历史上的希姆莱帅得多。从肖像上看,希姆莱圆... 阅读全帖 |
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M********G 发帖数: 1207 | 24 刚刚看完了Der Untergang,很不错,拍的很人性化,很真实。 |
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c******g 发帖数: 4889 | 25 这就是youtube上希特勒发火被人乱配字幕的那个电影。 |
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G*****7 发帖数: 1759 | 26 如果你喜欢看黑白原始footage/photo,就会对电影里面若干镜头很熟悉
比如柏林街头人们推着一辆电车做障碍
比如希特勒颤颤巍巍的给一个炸了坦克的Hitlerjugend Alfred Czech发奖章,还啾啾
耳朵
http://bit.ly/k9mXhG
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y**********g 发帖数: 3071 | 28 【 以下文字转载自 History 讨论区 】
发信人: stallion (Kendall/43619*), 信区: History
标 题: 观《帝国的毁灭》的几点体会
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 19 09:02:10 2012, 美东)
观《帝国的毁灭》的几点体会
王在田
Der Untergang
这部片子高度写实,再现了柏林沦陷前最后12天的情景,许多细节与台词在各种二战回
忆录里读到过,完全可以当作一部历史纪录片来看。
看完之后翻出了《第三帝国的兴亡》(The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by
William L. Shirer),重拾近二十年前的阅读记忆。
1
希姆莱Heinrich Himmler眼神阴郁,叫人捉摸不透。
扮演希姆莱的演员比历史上的希姆莱帅得多。从肖像上看,希姆莱圆圆的脸蛋,身材不
高,更像亚洲人,如果换上一套日本将军装束的话估计很难辨认。
执掌党卫军的希姆莱心思缜密,最终却在这一点上栽了跟头。大战结束时他试图隐姓埋
名便装逃回老家巴伐利亚,并伪造了完备的身份证件。盘查的英军士兵不禁纳闷:这兵... 阅读全帖 |
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