R******p
发帖数: 35 | 1 http://imgur.com/GvJJlxh
I finished 3rd for $587.50, 212 players field. The buy in is $20 for a $
5000Gtd prize pool.
I brought in the satellite for $3 and went from there.
Some crucial spots:
1. Early in the tourney, I was dealt double suited Q high. limp in from cut
off. flop the nut flush. I bet small 3 streets and the guy called me down
with a 9 cards straight draw and hit it on the river. He was drawing dead on
the flop. This is why this tourney is juicy.
2. I played maybe 7% of my hands an... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 2 No. But I have not gotten any MTT win for a long while, maybe 4 months.
I got some win though, last week I get 1st for 10$ tourney(200ppl)
get a 4th for 10$ tourney(around 200 ppl) yesterday.
today, get a 8$ tourney win(1st) around 180ppl |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 3 Just check the blinds level, we go to level 27. It means 27*0.5=13+ hours
for this tourney. That is why I feel so tired.
I played one deep tourney on PS before, it is 2 day event. I have 100+
blinds, and lose the patience, shove 99 allin against other's jj. Which is
very very stupid for sure, because it is 100bb+ deep, how can I go with 99. That is my first time to play deep tourney.
This time I get a lot of patience, and get paid off. I guess I am the most
experienced player among last 4 playe |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 4 260＋40刀买入，30分钟一级，500bb的初始筹码量，到中后期开始ante保持在六分之一
的大盲注（哥觉得相对过高，可能哥老土吧），总entry 157，final table开始pay
jump，第一名 ～$10K, 第九名～1K，钱圈20人，十到二十名～$700
跟朋友约好去fw随便玩玩cash，正巧看到这个tourney，一看有时间，所以尝试一下。
这应该算是哥的第5个live tourney。哥很少玩live tourney，原因很简单，就是觉得
没盼头，过程冗长，对体力和耐心要求很高，而且抽水太重。唯一吸引哥的就是live
table人间万象，玩家看上去都是那副很serious的样子，哥觉得挺逗。
闲话不多说，开始正文。
11点开始，桌上水平参差不齐，不乏高手，也有老爷爷用个中对追三条接的牌。哥初期
进局挺多，随着盲注提高，逐渐缩紧，没什么大pot，到40bb的时候agaisnt一个young
pro的两条街的重注，在river的scary card上，哥果断把medium strength hand turn
成了一个allin bluff，拿下。桌子到中期，仍然相当凶... 阅读全帖 |
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R******p
发帖数: 35 | 5 shove.
There are a lot of tourney with free money today.
5,7,20,25 after and $8000 G tourney at 21:30
This $8000 tourney had only $6010 players contributed prize pool, which is
crazy, 33% free money. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 6 No. But I have not gotten any MTT win for a long while, maybe 4 months.
I got some win though, last week I get 1st for 10$ tourney(200ppl)
get a 4th for 10$ tourney(around 200 ppl) yesterday.
today, get a 8$ tourney win(1st) around 180ppl |
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C******n
发帖数: 941 | 7 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Network (Network) 于 (Fri Oct 24 16:33:29 2008) 提到:
Only used Champion#1 before, it was really good.
Anyone tried Champion#2 or Tourney#1 before? How were those?
Thanks,
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kupo (一字电剑跑不死) 于 (Fri Oct 24 17:22:06 2008) 提到:
如果我理解没错,Champion#2是"蓝"胜利,Tourney#1是"浅绿"胜利,是吧.
他们还不错了.尤其是蓝胜利,飞行很接近绿胜利了.
但感觉都是不如绿胜利耐久.反正就是一个性价比的问题了.
我个人感觉,还是绿胜利好些.
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ktw (饭老赵之Frank) 于 (Fri Oct 24 19:4 |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 8 Congratulations!
This PS tourney took 30 minutes to move blinds one level up, that may be why
it took so long to finish.
is
. That is my first time to play deep tourney.
play |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 9 I guess that tourney is automatic. The system will make you allin.
should be very quickly
just like shootout. |
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c***a
发帖数: 309 | 10 响应版主的号召，说说我的第一次live tourney。
以前一直玩live cash game，12月20，21日陪LD去Atlantic City，终于在Harrahs打了
第一次live tourney。晚上8：15开始，三十人的小比赛，68+12 buy-in，前五有奖（
第一$891，第二$506）。最后剩俩人的时候chip leader说太晚了不想玩了，他拿第一
我拿第二不过他再给我100（他的chips是我的5倍）。我一想这也还算公平，再说打了
快6个小时也有点累，就握手言和了。
总的来说运气还不错，中间剩8BB的时候all-in badbeat了别人一把（22 at button vs
. AA at big blind, got a deuce on the flop），也被badbeat过几次不过还算正常
。估计以后还是会玩cash game多一点，觉得心情轻松一些而且好像更profitable。
回到宾馆房间里发现LD早已睡的不省人事。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 11 Actually, I do not play a lot of rush tourneys, but I do find some interest
characteristics of Rush tourneys.
1. More ppl in the rush games ----> more fish, which means the games are
generally softer than normal games.
2. The average stack is much much higher than normal games. ppl get average
30BB even in late stages, however, ppl get around 15BB average in normal
games at those stages. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 12 俺要出门，没时间了，哪位有空可否帮忙看一下PS的home game关于tourney的部分，问
题：
1)是否可以自动累积某个系列的积分(比如类似俺们FTP的周赛)？看到有ranking表，但
是不确定是否能累积。
2)除club owner外，是否可以其他成员也create tourney？这样以后省事多了。
如果以上都行的话，咱们以后是可以考虑搬家了，方便。 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 14
去年年底开始重心移到micro tourney，发现短筹情况下，shove或者raise还是有差别
。尤其是当majority都是短筹，或者 钱圈人数/剩余总人数 > 90％时，区别更明显，
某种程度上讲，这手牌我比较喜欢概率老湿的2bb raise/fold with TJs。化学老湿说
shove可以even range，但实际上，在那手牌的情形下，绝大多数对手，无法fold掉前5
％的牌。对手同样处于短筹，除非跟我有太多历史，且确实是pro，他们是无法想象，
我还有任何fold equity，在这种情况下，我的2bb的steal比13bb steal效率要高。2bb
75％赢到2bb，25％输2bb，still ＋EV。
概率老湿之前也提到，ICM并没有完全cover steal/defend、steal/resteal的trend，
有时候一个－chips ev的move，恰恰会给后面的甚至以后其他的tourney＋chips ev。
当然，哥还在苦逼学习中，还有太多知识缺乏，以上的只是些个人感受，望指正。 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 15 merge 周日8桌
分别是 2个4k、2个5k、1个6.5k、1个25k和2个35k保证金的tourney。参加人数基本都
在400到700人之间。
其中一个4k和另一个5k的比赛，初期run的不错，chips一直保持在前5％，并且5k的那
场已经进入钱圈。可是一个不留神，两桌同时跟两个大stack clash输掉2/3的chips，
一下子沦为中短筹（30～40bb），尼玛，实在是悲剧啊。
4k的那场，哥OOP with QsTs, raise/flat tiny small 3bet, flop 5s8sTd，check/3x
raise villains 2/3 potsize cbet/call villain overshove。对手亮出AsTc，哥顿
时一口老血涂在屏幕上。
5k的那场，哥kqo chips leader，early position preflop 2.2x open，CO刚坐上桌也
是大stack flat call。flop J92r,哥2/3 size cbet，villain call，turn 5，哥pot
size to put villai... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 16
raise
哥们儿确实说得有理，这里flop可以fold来避免这种复杂情况的出现
我把我选择继续的理由，更明确下
1 对手是个reg，熟面孔，但是我不知道他记不记得我，这场6个小时的历史里，我确信
对手capable
2 key pot，spr 1:1，
3 我的image solid，后面几个小时总共进局不到10把，又是3bettor
4 flop确实可以fold，但是因为位置／双方image／和这把之后可能出现的局势转变，
综合考虑下来，我还是call了
5 turn上他的check rep了一个非nuts的line，我的bet可以rep一个nut line，在cash
game或者low limit online poker，spr这么低，绝大多数人在这个spot上无法放弃小
flush和set，我也不敢真的make move。但在这里，我确实很有把握 对手理解action等
于牌力，换言之,这里有很大的fold equity，所以我这里的这个bet，把自己给
polarise了，我跟对手位置对调的话，只有set才会继续下去，并期盼river加强的可能。
6 tourney还有... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 17 5555555... online, yes.
but for these live 20min level turbo tourneys, AcTc is way stronger and you
may not even get one or better for an hour (3 levels).
these tourneys last for about 5 hrs if you get lucky, most ppl would bust
around 2-3 hrs. |
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a*****g
发帖数: 19398 | 18 围棋赛结果：Daniel Smith Wins Bob Barber’s 70th Tourney
May 13, 2012
Daniel Smith 2d took top honors at the May 12 “It Was 20 Years Ago Today”
tournament in Chicago, IL. Not a Beatles song reference, the title refered
to this being the 20th anniversary — to the month — of Tournament Director
Bob Barber’s first tournament. This was the indefatiguable organizer’s
70th imaginatively-named competition and the 65-year-old — who claims to
have “never lost even a single game” at one of his tournaments — says... 阅读全帖 |
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n*******y
发帖数: 3337 | 19 【 以下文字转载自 TexasHoldem 讨论区 】
发信人: fryking (赤道企鹅), 信区: TexasHoldem
标 题: 哇，cmis91原来是个tourney大佬
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 26 20:17:28 2010, 美东)
8月9日拿下PS Sunday Million(好像前一阵有个女生提到过，就是你吧？)，8202
人，$215买入费，冠军，$246,064.05！
FTP的战绩也非常不错。
他自己说还只是个学生，赞！
失敬失敬，经常来参加俺们周赛吧，呵呵，AC见。 |
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b****s
发帖数: 472 | 20 to register,
click or play bridge ==> free tournaments ==> Tournaments tarting later (or
tournament starting within the hour if you logon around 7pm) ==> scroll
down and find the tourney jyang #1894 Ind. Bay Bridge.
If you can't register, msg me on bbo so I can add your ID.
good luck and have fun |
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P***5
发帖数: 1089 | 22 拿到手了, 6尺6m, 空竿耍了耍, 手感很不错, 轻, 前后平衡, 软硬也比较适合我的口
味, im8应该会比较敏感。我这里有十几条便宜的淡水竿,这条tourney trail算最好的
买卖之一了, 当然还不知道够不够结实。
轮没什么好说的, 属于50块以下的区间里普遍叫好的, president我有4个。 |
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s********e
发帖数: 542 | 23 cabela很多杆是标出了重量的 tourney trail就标了 要去杆子的页面，combo的页面没
标。
另外，cabela的life time guarranty是指的商品的life time，不是人的life time，
这个他们在多年前改成这样了，也是为了降低成本和别的店竞争。 个人觉得确实是有
误导顾客的意图。
但一根杆子一年的保质其实是很合理的。质量的问题，一年内一般都显现。有终身保修
的杆子，一定贵，保修成本要算进去。羊毛出在羊身上。现在好多原本终身保修的杆子
现在都改成1年了。 |
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k**********s
发帖数: 6409 | 24
在手机上没有找到，在电脑上终于在product research里面找到了，4.4盎司，比我在
walmart里8块钱买的竿还重0.1盎司。
Tourney Trail：6尺6，Medium Light，4-10 lb，4.40 ounces
Durango: 6尺6，Medium, 6-12 lb, 4.3 oz (实测） |
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c**p
发帖数: 1443 | 25 ZHAO TOPS SEATTLE TOURNEY:
Ju Zhao won the dan section of the September 12 Anniversary Tournament at
the Seattle Go Center, topping 29 players. Maxwell Peterson, a 20-year-old
who recently moved to Seattle from Minneapolis, placed second. Other results
. Dan: 3rd: Jason Baghboudarian. Upper Kyu: 1st: Eric Backus; 2nd: Frank
Fukuda; 3rd: Takao Shimura. Middle Kyu: 1st: Alex Daye; 2nd: Dave Novacek;
3rd: Danielle Hyatt. Lower Kyu: 1st: Bill Thompson, 2nd: Anne Thompson, 3rd:
Yuriko Miyake. John Ho |
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a*****g
发帖数: 19398 | 26 围棋赛结果：Daniel Smith Wins Bob Barber’s 70th Tourney
May 13, 2012
Daniel Smith 2d took top honors at the May 12 “It Was 20 Years Ago Today”
tournament in Chicago, IL. Not a Beatles song reference, the title refered
to this being the 20th anniversary — to the month — of Tournament Director
Bob Barber’s first tournament. This was the indefatiguable organizer’s
70th imaginatively-named competition and the 65-year-old — who claims to
have “never lost even a single game” at one of his tournaments — says... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 27 FT low stack online sit n go tourney (90 players, top 9 paid).
level 600/1200, 100 ante.
i was cutoff, stack low (~13000, 13th, normally need to have ~20000 to make
to the final table).
AhQh, everybody folded, made a standard raise for $3600, hoped to end the
game here and collect some blinds.
BB didn't like it and showed resistence by calling (he got 30000).
missed flop completely, TsTc4d. BB checked (sure, most likely you missed too
), i followed up with 3600, he pushed his big all-in to scare |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 28 hehe, hand 9? i watched how he played, and was not too worried, A rag at most
with his short stack, or a pure defense on his SB...
all in all, nothing to really brag about at all for the whole tourney, got
some nice cards, in position, and held up (HARD on FTP, hehe). |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 29 hand 8 (with Ah8h) was my biggest mistake. i was running too high and chose
the wrong guy... i might still call but with longer thinking process (taking
his stack into consideration more), more likely it's a lay down if i was in
my right mode, hehe.
for other hands, even they're craizer (like Kc8c big shove from SB), at least
i knew what i was doing and had a full plan ahead. this one i made it too quickly.
this hand was what made me remember the whole tourney better(normally i
wouldn't bother), |
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c********e
发帖数: 267 | 30 我现在很觉得FT搞鬼了。靠打了3个来小时。。。。
虽然说BAD BEAT可能对于每个人都是一样的，可觉得他提高bad beat 次数鼓励多bet
多看，这样他赚pot 也多
而且这一路tourney 下来，看见太多这种情况。。都不正常了 |
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i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 31 for tourney no matter how many bad beats happen they make the same amount of
rake... |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 32 maybe, today's 27500 was really a pity, sigh, admire!! i never went so far
in a 1600 ppl tourney, and you had such a healthy stack after hitting lucky
river.
with your stack, you should be able to finish 6th or better for $1500. after
you went out, it took loooong 15 mins for the 10th guy.
lose patience in the end.
very very tired, always make big mistakes. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 33 ftp has super turbo tourney now, it is fun.
300 starting chips.
And just 10 minutes, half field is gone(around 350ppl) |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 34 18k for first prize. 150 buy in. get lucky a few times. still do not
really like multi table tourney . too much luck factor. I am a live cash
game player.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 35 don't know if it's every one getting better in micro tourneys or i focus on
micro cash games too much... i was dry for long (and got beat up and down in
diff. ways) until yesterday, made 1st in a $3.3KO from 756 ppl.
1) got no hand in a turbo event for 30 mins...now 300 ppl left..
2) then got AJo, UTG shoved (a little shorter than me), one caller, ... (i
was weighing on shoving or not), then another shover (bigger than me)...
well, now easy fold. UTG: AJo, caller: 79o, shover: AJo. LOL to death, |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 36 thanks, it's tiny, hehe, was just wondering what's going on in the tourney
world...
how's your rakeback so far? saw you played a whole bunch recently... |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 37 Eventually we chop it, I get 1600bucks, others even chop.
Actually I lose at least 800k chips in the later part.
The structure determines we can play no more. 30 minutes, up one blinds
level. And 5000chips starting chip stacks. Everyone still got 70+BB. If continuing playing, I guess need another
3+ hours, does not worth the time.
Actually, I do not pay attention to this tourney in the beginning, just try
to finish it, and have a good rest and have energy to play miniftop. But
this one goes on a |
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 38 12+ hrs on this one and you were even in a 2 day tournament. :) that must
be so tough. does deep tournament feels like cash game? and congrats on
the win. :)
is
. That is my first time to play deep tourney.
play |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 39 Maybe I do not explain it clearly. Not all tournies on PS use that structure
. Only very very few tournies use that 30 minutes blinds level. To be honest
, I do not like it at all, because it is too slow. We can not afford 15+
hours to play one tourney.
Usually PS's structure is very quick, although it usually has 15 minutes
blinds level, but they lack a lot of blinds levels.
why |
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c***a
发帖数: 309 | 40 问题是不能指望总能badbeat别人呀，我22那一把看到AA的时候都收衣服站起来准备走
人了，看到flop以后又坐下去了，呵呵。还是觉得tourney偶然性太大，不象cash game
赢一把是一把，lol。 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 41 not long after another tourney exit with KK @ button to SB w/ Td-8d, flop 7d
-9d-Qs,
bet pot got check-raise all in. had to call and outdrawn. pre 3xbb. ftp own
me two. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 42 He won the tourney eventually. I double him twice on the final 2 tables.
double him another twice in the final table.
I should fold this hand although I have ajs. |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 43 for 1) it looks like PS can do the ranking. But i am not sure that ranking
is for tourney only. KungfuPoker has a club and they have held one
tournament. Here is their results and season standing. Also, the point
calculated for the tournies may diff from ours. |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 44 终于在merge弄到钱了。半年了，终于又能打几百人的tourney了。
一个个coin flip的刺激。拿着suited connector resteal时拼命祈祷对方fold。
semibluff最后击中自己的抽牌的爽。一点点熬到final table的辛苦。全都是久违了的
感觉。眼泪哗啦哗啦的。。。 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 45 原来是yubaobao. 以前周赛打得很凶的说。
终于在merge弄到钱了。半年了，终于又能打几百人的tourney了。一个个coin flip的
刺激。拿着suited connector resteal时拼命祈祷对方fold........
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 46 我是在2plus2上的market place里用amazon gc买的merge上的钱。
想去merge或者cake上玩的同学可以试试这个办法。
MTT好像最适合我。我有很多在cash game里很致命的leak。但是在tourney里问题反倒
显得不大。 |
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h******g
发帖数: 100 | 47 I took about 5 mins to analyze the hand and made the call, he turned over
67s for a busted straight draw.
It was one of those calls that I don't make very often especially against
ABC players. But against him I know he can make such move with air. The K on
the river actually helped me in making the call since I don't think he is
capable of making a value allin bet w/ hands like A9, TT, etc which more
than likely he would bet about half the pot. On the other hand, he would
likely to push me out o... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 48 最优打法下13bb没有raise的道理。shove or fold。关键是做到了完美的balance，如
果你AA和JT都shove的话。。
你的情况假设别人的calling range是AJ+, KQ+, 99+。大约是7%的牌。
后面4个人，被call的机会是1 - 0.93^4 = 25%。
手里没POKERSTOVE。但是简单假设JTs面对这个calling range有30%的机会。
手里13BB，锅里2BB。
75%的机会，你直接多2BB。
25%的机会被call。然后equity是27BB * 30% = 8BB。被call了输5BB。
所以你的EV 是2*0.75 - 5*0.25 = 0.25 BB。cash game的话是正的。
tourney bubble也没有那么可怕，最多ICM的chip value系数也就到1.2而已。也就是说
你手里的1个chip值外面的1.2.这样你的EV是 2*0.75 - 5*1.2*0.25 = 0. 正好0. 何况
你还没到bubble。
如果桌子都是紧B的话，推了是对的。如果桌子上都是好手的话。也应该推。因为好手
的callin... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 49 所以你的EV 是2*0.75 - 5*0.25 = 0.25 BB。cash game的话是正的。
------------If this were true(actually it is true), folding is the only
option.
Even bvb, still correct to raise/fold TJs in satty.
However,it is a regular tourney, which means the top 2 get majority of the
money, I will choose to raise/fold TJs, AJo, 44-88(if OP's assumption is
correct)， raise/call AQ+, TT+.
Because you know the base-line, then it is easy to make the correct calling
decision against different opponents. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 50 我习惯是用对手的历史来判断对手级别 如果缺乏对手信息 就按照一般的abc的方法去
玩 象你说的不管自己多少stack 有没有位置 什么阶段，都喜欢拿类似suited或者kq
qj之类的牌去flat的，在这个级别的tourney中，实在是太多了。当桌上有这样的对手
，并且他们的postflop aggression不低的情况下，哥基本上就耸了。
所以哥的point是，用额外的信息去spot out那些不是那么明显的＋EV move。但是，这
个本身就是很费脑经的事，象下棋一样，没有定式留在脑子里，而是靠当下的一局去摸
索的话，会很头疼，同时也不可避免的会犯错误。 |
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