发帖数: 1 | 1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-china-blog-39893359
China Blog
Chinese lawyer 'wore torture device for a month'
By John Sudworth
BBC, Beijing
13 May 2017
WANG QIAOLING
Image caption
A picture of Mr Li from 2012 and one taken after his release
It's a form of restraint that would be more in keeping with the practices of
a medieval dungeon than a modern, civilised state.
But the device - leg and hand shackles linked by a short chain - is a well-
documented part of the toolkit that the Chinese polic... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 2 Local prosecutors in south China’s Hunan Province have dismissed reports
that a Chinese lawyer, Xie Yang, was “tortured in detention,” denouncing
them as untrue in a state media investigation that revealed that previous
claims were based on fabricated information.
44-year-old Xie was detained in July 2015 on charges of subversion and
disrupting court proceedings. Reports of him “suffering after being beaten
and having sleep deprivation” began to surface outside China last October,
alleging that ... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****9 发帖数: 29 | 3 Local prosecutors in south China’s Hunan Province have dismissed reports
that a Chinese lawyer, Xie Yang, was “tortured in detention,” denouncing
them as untrue in a state media investigation that revealed that previous
claims were based on fabricated information.
44-year-old Xie was detained in July 2015 on charges of subversion and
disrupting court proceedings. Reports of him “suffering after being beaten
and having sleep deprivation” began to surface outside China last October,
alleging that ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 4 Local prosecutors in south China’s Hunan Province have dismissed reports
that a Chinese lawyer, Xie Yang, was “tortured in detention,” denouncing
them as untrue in a state media investigation that revealed that previous
claims were based on fabricated information.
44-year-old Xie was detained in July 2015 on charges of subversion and
disrupting court proceedings. Reports of him “suffering after being beaten
and having sleep deprivation” began to surface outside China last October,
alleging that ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 5 Local prosecutors in south China’s Hunan Province have dismissed reports
that a Chinese lawyer, Xie Yang, was “tortured in detention,” denouncing
them as untrue in a state media investigation that revealed that previous
claims were based on fabricated information.
44-year-old Xie was detained in July 2015 on charges of subversion and
disrupting court proceedings. Reports of him “suffering after being beaten
and having sleep deprivation” began to surface outside China last October,
alleging that ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****k 发帖数: 604 | 6 听完了。
让我对名校教授再次失望,
倒不是因为他是torture professor,
而是他说话水平和思路都不怎么样。
其实问题并不在于
如何解读宪法才是正确的,
而是大家认为这是torture,
这就是torture了。
失去道德高地会降低美国的对外影响力的,
也使它对其他国家的人权指责更加乏力。
穆斯林世界也会更加和美国敌对,
更多的穆斯林青年会加入极端反美行列。
这种对软实力的伤害影响其实是非常大的。
有几个美国左派和右派唱唱双簧其实倒不失为
多少挽救一点美国人权卫士的名声的一种手段。
至少还能迷惑一部分人,
让他们觉得美国还是有好人的,继续美国抱有幻想 |
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y****t 发帖数: 10233 | 7 honey, it is the liberals who are torturing the chinese people right now!
look what obama has done, trade war, killing jobs.
they are not torturing chinese people they are torturing every working class.
do you understand? |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 8 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: Scalia大法官说torture算p大点事阿
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 12 15:16:15 2014, 美东)
Scalia: Constitution silent on torture
December 12, 2014 - 1:06 PM
Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is joining the
debate over the Senate's torture report by saying it is difficult to rule
out the use of extreme measures to extract information if millions of lives
were threatened.
Scalia tells a Swiss radio network that American... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****n 发帖数: 209 | 9 Under the divine inspiration, Spanish Inquisition developed many creative
ways
of torturing people, including water-boarding, which is continued to be used
nowadays by the government of a God-fearing nation.
To be fair, Chinese, throughout history, managed to create many
torture techniques as well, even without any divine inspiration at all.
I guess that one does not need the guidance of God to know the
pleasure
of torturing your enemies. Happiness is an agreeable sensation arisin |
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x******g 发帖数: 33885 | 10 基督教的好处:不管做了什么邪恶的坏事,礼拜天去去教堂又心安理得了。
President Barack Obama somberly warned on Friday that a forthcoming Senate
Intelligence Committee report will show that the United States “tortured
some folks” before he took office. But he dismissed “sanctimonious” calls
to punish any individuals responsible and rejected calls for CIA Director
John Brennan’s resignation.
“When we engaged in some of these enhanced interrogation techniques —
techniques that I believe, and I think any fair-minded person would beli... 阅读全帖 |
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w*********r 发帖数: 42116 | 11 Hillary Clinton spoke out against the use of waterboarding torture during a
Tuesday speech in New York City, strongly condemning the tactics for the
first time since the recent release of a Senate Intelligence Committee
report on CIA interrogation methods from a decade ago.
"Today we can say again in a loud and clear voice, the United States should
never condone or practice torture anywhere in the world,” Clinton said. |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 12 December 10, 2014 - 8:35 PM
By BRADLEY KLAPPER, Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — Top spies past and present campaigned Wednesday to
discredit the Senate's investigation into the CIA's harrowing torture
practices after 9/11, battling to define the historical record and deter
potential legal action around the world.
The Senate intelligence committee's report doesn't urge prosecution for
wrongdoing, and the Justice Department has no interest in reopening a
criminal probe. But the threat to former... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 13 Scalia: Constitution silent on torture
December 12, 2014 - 1:06 PM
Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is joining the
debate over the Senate's torture report by saying it is difficult to rule
out the use of extreme measures to extract information if millions of lives
were threatened.
Scalia tells a Swiss radio network that American and European liberals who
say such tactics may never be used are being self-righteous.
The 78-year-old justice says he doesn't "th... 阅读全帖 |
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 14 A retired general and Fox Business Network guest argued Thursday that
torture works on detainees, and as proof cited the example of one of its
principal opponents — Sen. John McCain.
Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney went further though than
criticizing the Arizona Republican’s opposition to confirming Gina Haspel
as CIA director. He also called the Vietnam-era POW as “Songbird John,” a
word choice that prompted FBN host Charles Payne to apologize to Mr. McCain.
“The fact is, is John M... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 15 说得对, torture不work的话早就没人审讯的打人了. 很多时候torture works very
well |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 16 人就是不挨打说出来也会很多是假话阿. 这个审讯的人都会anticipate的.
torture 是不是work看是要什么资料了, 如果要个pin number, 那么torture work的又
快又好. |
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a****f 发帖数: 944 | 17 【 以下文字转载自 Overseas 讨论区 】
发信人: abcdef (aa), 信区: Overseas
标 题: being tortured by my advisor, what should I do?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 9 10:55:16 2010, 美东)
I have done a lot of academic related things without asking for his approval
. I think he is really mad at me now and starting to torture me.
However, he wouldn't allow me to do anything except working in the lab. If I
make connections with other professionals in order to build my career, or I
apply for attending an academic symposium, etc, h |
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W*******n 发帖数: 4140 | 18 Nicky’s Nail Spa at Putnam Valley Enjoys Torturing!
Sept. 12, 2012
Limin Wang
Early in last July, my wife followed a job ad on a newspaper, and then
started to work at Nicky’s Nail Spa (7 Miranda Plaza, Oregon Road, Putnam
Valley, NY 10579. Tel: 914-528-8408). July 5 and 17 were her first and last
days there, respectively. After a few days of working, Nicky’s Nail Spa
wanted my wife to work as a full-time for them. My wife felt that their
business was not very busy, and learned that the spa hire... 阅读全帖 |
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W*******n 发帖数: 4140 | 19 Nicky’s Nail Spa at Putnam Valley Enjoys Torturing!
Sept. 12, 2012
Limin Wang
Early in last July, my wife followed a job ad on a newspaper, and then
started to work at Nicky’s Nail Spa (7 Miranda Plaza, Oregon Road, Putnam
Valley, NY 10579. Tel: 914-528-8408). July 5 and 17 were her first and last
days there, respectively. After a few days of working, Nicky’s Nail Spa
wanted my wife to work as a full-time for them. My wife felt that their
business was not very busy, and learned that the spa hire... 阅读全帖 |
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W*******n 发帖数: 4140 | 20 Nicky’s Nail Spa at Putnam Valley Enjoys Torturing!
Sept. 12, 2012
Limin Wang
Early in last July, my wife followed a job ad on a newspaper, and then
started to work at Nicky’s Nail Spa (7 Miranda Plaza, Oregon Road, Putnam
Valley, NY 10579. Tel: 914-528-8408). July 5 and 17 were her first and last
days there, respectively. After a few days of working, Nicky’s Nail Spa
wanted my wife to work as a full-time for them. My wife felt that their
business was not very busy, and learned that the spa hire... 阅读全帖 |
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a****f 发帖数: 944 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 Overseas 讨论区 】
发信人: abcdef (aa), 信区: Overseas
标 题: being tortured by my advisor, what should I do?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 9 10:55:16 2010, 美东)
I have done a lot of academic related things without asking for his approval
. I think he is really mad at me now and starting to torture me.
However, he wouldn't allow me to do anything except working in the lab. If I
make connections with other professionals in order to build my career, or I
apply for attending an academic symposium, etc, h |
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m****r 发帖数: 1904 | 22 you ask a very good question.I never thought of it.But i post answers from
Jehovah witness's research article, hope it'll help you.
TORTURE STAKE
An instrument such as that on which Jesus Christ met death by impalement. (Mt
27:32-40; Mr 15:21-30; Lu 23:26; Joh 19:17-19, 25) In classical Greek the word
(stau?ros?) rendered "torture stake" in the New World Translation primarily
denotes an upright stake, or pole, and there is no evidence that the writers
of the Christian Greek Scriptures used it to |
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I*1 发帖数: 5635 | 24 Is this the guy who tortured Ghadafi to death last year by sticking a
serrated knife up Gadhafi's rear end?
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 25 这厮用drone处决了好几百了,倒不torture,不用审直接死刑。 |
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l******t 发帖数: 55733 | 30 torture个屁。中国文化就是不吃苦中苦难做人上人,要想人前显贵,就要人后受罪。 |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 31 胡扯, 美国不torture恐怖分子了, 木虱吝们会感激? 他们就不砍人质的头了? |
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s*****k 发帖数: 604 | 32 你先把一个人的观点极端化荒谬化,
然后加以批判,这对讨论是没有帮助的。
Muslim 里也有相对亲美,比较中立直到
极端反美以及各种中间形态。
搞不搞torture对极端反美的如拉登这样的
人看待美国的观点确实没有多大影响。
但是对那些对美国看法比较温和的人
肯定是有影响的。 |
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p***r 发帖数: 195 | 33 对这些穆斯林不torture是不是他们就不炸大楼了? |
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s*****k 发帖数: 604 | 34 其实我是真心希望美国对这些人使用torture的
也是真心希望美国像你这么想得人越多越好的 |
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y*****n 发帖数: 5016 | 35 Washington (CNN)Republican front-runner Donald Trump said Friday that he
would not order the U.S. military to violate international laws to fight
terrorism, a stark reversal from his statements at Thursday's Republican
debate.
Trump said in a statement that he understands "that the United States is
bound by laws and treaties" and said he would "not order our military or
other officials to violate those laws and will seek their advice on such
matters."
He added, "I will not order a military offic... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z 发帖数: 29846 | 37 西方社会真是盛极而衰.
那些说torture不work的人其实挺可笑的, 随便找几个这种人过来上老虎凳, 灌辣椒水,
我保证不出几分钟, 这些人会把他们老娘偷人的事情都会招供出来. |
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T**********e 发帖数: 29576 | 38
水,
左逼擅长编造narrative:
1. 庇护城市:查了非移,以后非移就不出来帮助警方作证破案了。
2. torture: 人一挨打说出来很多是假话。 |
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Z**R 发帖数: 1233 | 39 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8183158.stm
Police in India are guilty of widespread human rights violations, including
beatings, torture and illegal killings, a new report alleges.
The US-based group Human Rights Watch says India's policing system
facilitates and even encourages abuses.
It says there has been little change in attitudes, training or equipment
since the police was formed in colonial times with the aim to control the
population.
It says the government must take major s |
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a****f 发帖数: 944 | 40 I have done a lot of academic related things without asking for his approval
. I think he is really mad at me now and starting to torture me.
However, he wouldn't allow me to do anything except working in the lab. If I
make connections with other professionals in order to build my career, or I
apply for attending an academic symposium, etc, he would be mad because he
would think that's a waste of time. Even if I go to the conference that he
allows me to go, he only allows me to stay 2-3 days the |
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d********1 发帖数: 1698 | 41 我想美国人--特别是白的, 最明白了.
所以他们对我们就是这样.
如果大家打听下: 自己周围的白人--从欧洲来的是否存在找工作困难? 工资被压低?
至少我的3个白人同学根本没有这样的问题.
现在是从2个傻瓜, 穷光蛋国家来的--中国, 印度... 他们根本不会管我们的.
你们那么多人, 不控制你们来,还控制谁?
移民问题, 包括了, 很多种族, 宗教的背景. 太清楚不过了.
对老墨, 他们没有办法---以后更没有办法.
大家也跟着他们反非法的, 其实他们骨头里是谁都反!! 除非你是白的!!
所以希望大家别反非法的了, 反了他们, 并不能帮助我们和法的. 大家都是被TORTURE
的对象!! |
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n**********s 发帖数: 236 | 42 100% true.
we should never contribute to this country!
we should not give them a penny!
do the least work, get the free pay checks every two weeks!
TORTURE |
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w*********p 发帖数: 7230 | 44 这叫什么TORTURE TEST,就是红脖子无聊,吃饱了撑的活动活动 |
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e*f 发帖数: 1709 | 45 Pretty impressive. The worst torture is to dump fine dirt into the bolt
assembly, with the mag well open.
I have seen mini 14 being tested like that and still managing to fire like a
bolt action.
I guess an ak47 will still come out of that situation better.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=phenhn-oJkw |
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s*****n 发帖数: 209 | 46 The poll data from a survey of 742 U.S. adults released April 29 by the Pew
Forum on Religion and Public Life found 62 percent of white evangelical
Protestants said torture of a suspected terrorist could be often or
sometimes justified to obtain important information.
By contrast, 51 percent of white non-Hispanic Catholics, 46 percent of white
mainline Protestants and 40 percent of the religiously unaffiliated held
that position.
Those who attend religious services at least once a week were more |
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m******y 发帖数: 526 | 47 A 3-year-old kid came to our office. She is so cute and has her own cute
logic. she said she wanted to go to sleep now since the sun has gone to
bed(coz it disappeared).
But her mom was trying to make her learn some knowledge even in this early
age. So her mom said,"you wear pajama when you go to sleep,then does the sun
also wear pajama?" "you brush your teeth when you go to bed, then how about
the sun?"...
The poor girl looked so puzzled. And her mom still tortured her.Even worse,
she asked me |
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j**g 发帖数: 37 | 48 我还是将全文刊出,方便大家读罢
Why not everyone is a torturer
(So groups of people in positions of unaccountable power naturally
resort to violence, do they? Not according to research conducted in a
BBC experiment. The photographs from Abu Ghraib prison showing Americans
abusing Iraqi prisoners make us recoil and lead us to distance ourselves
from their horror and brutality. Surely those who commit such acts are
not like us? Surely the perpetrators must be twisted or disturbed in
some way? They must be monster |
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R*o 发帖数: 3781 | 49 The concept of a burning Hell where people are tortured eternally, is often
thought of as a Bible teaching. It isn't. Rather, the whole concept of a Hel
l as people see it today, where the bad are sent to an underground world tha
t is ruled by an evil God, comes from a misunderstanding of the pagan Greek
Mythology of Hades, the River Styx, and the God Pluto. For if you read Greek
mythology, you'll see that Hades was never a place of torture, but simply t
he place where the dead go to be judged. ... 阅读全帖 |
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G******e 发帖数: 9567 | 50 314 Immediately after its full legalisation, the Christian Church attacks
the gentiles (non-Christians). The Council of Ancyra denounces the worship
of Goddess Artemis.
324 The emperor Constantine declares Christianity as the only official
religion of the Roman empire. In Dydima, Minor Asia, he sacks the Oracle of
the god Apollo and tortures the Pagan priests to death. He also evicts all
non-Christian peoples from Mount Athos and destroys all the local Hellenic
temples.
326 Constantine, followin... 阅读全帖 |
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