h******o
发帖数: 6113 | 1 今天加仓的收益：
SLV Apr 16 2011 30.0 Put -3%
SPY Feb 25 2011 134.0 Put +98% now |
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u********e
发帖数: 4950 | 2 Seems like the market is still a fair market
Have been keeping buying puts of SPY from 129: have bought puts for all the
strikes from 129 to 135. |
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c******t
发帖数: 90 | 3 买了 LVS $39 put , LDK $11 put |
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j***b
发帖数: 5901 | 4 Puts are more expensive because the specific way that market index moves.
You see the pattern of segments of convex curves. This shape represents
peoples fear of risk. When there is any sign of risk, people tend to run,
causing the steep downward movement.
Any method of hedging the downward risk will be valued by investors, who
share the dislike of risk. Puts are a great way of hedging, and thus they
are expensive. Similarly, vix future, options are also expensive because
they can also be used a... 阅读全帖 |
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a*****e
发帖数: 1717 | 5 of course not,
if measured by IV, whether put or call is more expensive often is
a function of moneyness,
with BS model, IV for american call/put won't match for same strike.
it also depends on moneyness.
it's not an artifact of the log normal assumption. |
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z****g
发帖数: 4616 | 6 SUPERGAMBLER，你属猫的吧？上回裸卖NFLX CALL还没吧你整死啊？我以为你去外婆家蹲点回不来了呢。现在你裸卖了什么的PUT啊？
副所，我已经不能满足于我自己修的SHIT桶了，我买了别人砖家设计的SHIT桶，结果人家怎么裸买SLW的PUT呢？我自己的SHIT桶都不会干这事。 |
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H**********g
发帖数: 1312 | 7 有实时的shit桶吗？
家蹲点回不来了呢。现在你裸卖了什么的PUT啊？
人家怎么裸买SLW的PUT呢？我自己的SHIT桶都不会干这事。 |
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s*****2
发帖数: 1035 | 8 请问各位大牛:
你们搞PUT是option么? 是某个股票的还是指数的PUT呢?
谢谢. |
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c**y
发帖数: 419 | 9 最多再买个deep out money put 对冲一下, 损失一点利润
变成bull put spread
underlying |
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s****l
发帖数: 10462 | 10 我也掺乎几句
首先那个断行的事情，我用chrome就有这个问题，IE没有
这个selling put的做法，基本上就是开保险公司赚premium，能全部吃进
肚子里的也不会超过premium，但是time decay对卖家有利，对买家不利，
不过呢，买家（buy call or buy put)的最大损失最多也就是premium，
方向对了利润则有可能很大很大，都得保险公司赔出来。
保险公司赚钱么，当然，大部分都赚。可真要碰上了日本地震和美国龙卷风，巴
菲的保险也陪了几个B，所以口袋要深，且要慎用。 |
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G*******m
发帖数: 16326 | 11 今天买了ＴＢＴ的bearish put spread
刚刚买好３０分钟，ＴＢＴ就泄了。
10 TBT 0618 33/32 Bearish put spread. |
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G*******m
发帖数: 16326 | 12 P32 PUT (TBT) PROSHARES JUN 18 11 $32 (100 SHS)
Margin Contracts: -10.000 Price: $0.13 Amount: $123.34
Comm: $6.50
Fees: $0.16
Settlement Date: 06/08/2011
P33 PUT (TBT) PROSHARES JUN 18 11 $33 (100 SHS)
Margin Contracts: +10.000 Price: $0.32 Amount: -$335.60
Comm: $15.45
Fees: $0.15
Settlement Date: 06/08/2011 |
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s*********2
发帖数: 43 | 13 rt.我在125的时候卖了点130的靠，上周五大跌，没来的急。这周一立马在114的位置再
卖了个六月120的靠，加上买个六月110的put，所以现在还好。今天接着又卖了点七月
110的靠，明天看情况再用卖靠的钱买些七月的90 或95的put.
sina看这样子会萎靡相当一段时间，大涨的概率很小。所以我觉得这个策略还行，大家
以为如何？ |
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G*******m
发帖数: 16326 | 14 转到了7月16日的78put，3个。
分析一下：
如果下周IWM到了70，那么，
1）5个80的put，损失=500*（$80-$70）- premium = $5,000-
2）3个78的put，损失=300*（$78-70) = $2,400
$2,500 - 300*$2.50=$1,750 |
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m******1
发帖数: 86 | 15 Hi, folks:
plan to load google weekly (due july 22) put spread (put 600/595). currently
cost 3.8. want to get some input before execution.
reason:
Macro: US/euro debt issue.
Micro: outburst ER last Friday, no more good news
Tech: high volume last trading day and stock cool down today with slight
decrease in stock price.
thanks for your help! |
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a*****n
发帖数: 2835 | 16 我也是两个CALL两个PUT，8月的
看看明天大涨的话先赶紧割掉PUT，留着CALL接着涨？ |
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H******e
发帖数: 4682 | 17 Not 行为艺术 at all. I think I learned to play options in this way here or
some other web sites. To buy calls/puts at the same time, no matter the
price goes up or down, as if there is a big percentage price change, I will
make money. And stock's price is expected to have bigger price change around
ER time.
I buy call/put at $180/$170, $185/$165, in order to watch different results
with different buying prices.
请指点? |
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c****i
发帖数: 399 | 18 你理解错了。我是covered sold put
也就是买回了put。。。 它就彪了。 |
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r***l
发帖数: 9084 | 20 比如bid 1.8, ask 2.0, 设个1.9或者2.0 limit价格不管了。。。bidu/sina/sohu之类
的spread还凑合，反正买卖option别着急。
另外注意风险，比如口袋有10万，算margin 20万，strike@100, 最多卖20个，put涉及
的股数总金额小于帐户最大margin，更保守可以小于cash value, 选股一定要选自己愿
意hold的股票，控制风险，不要卖小股票的put. 股票选的less risk,即使market
crash, 到期前全部被 exercise, 离wipe out还很远，而且肯定比大多数散户都亏的少
的多。 |
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h**********9
发帖数: 3252 | 21 有时卖PUT被assigned不一定是坏事，我很多次weekly PUT被assigned后星期一就出水
了。 |
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i****e
发帖数: 385 | 22 为了等SINA这第二次跌，我还把手上的所有的SINA BIDU PUT都COVER了以便降低MARGIN
，可惜没有等到，卖PUT真是肥肉 |
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t**e
发帖数: 2379 | 23 今天上put的人应该远少于周五。周五上put的多半没啥雄心，小富即安的都cash out了。 |
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y******i
发帖数: 199 | 24 又是一个把卖put当成和limit buy order等效的。。。
你卖了put就只能承受downside而没有upside。如果被你exercise了，你就同时有了
upside和downside，那你为什么第一天能收买家的钱？ |
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s***7
发帖数: 1644 | 25 我观察了近几个礼拜的options价格，不觉得options因为消息而贵了，反到是现在call
put价格非常平衡，说明市场目前也没有方向，比如昨天收盘的时候，SPY 120 OCT
call/put的价格分别是4.18和4.00, 而SPY收在了120.17。 |
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c**u
发帖数: 2230 | 26 我纸交了. 10 OCT11 SPY $120 straddles:
10 calls + 10 puts, strike price spy 120, expires on OCT 11.
10 calls cost $3880, now value $2440
10 puts cost $4420, now value $6265
total gain/loss: $405
% return: 4.8%'
如果市场继续向下, return 应该会更多. Let's see! |
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c**u
发帖数: 2230 | 27 update: 10:57am Sep 22nd,
10 calls + 10 puts, strike price spy 120, expires on OCT 11.
10 calls cost $3880, now value $1645
10 puts cost $4420, now value $7845
total gain/loss: $1180
% return: 14.2% |
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c**u
发帖数: 2230 | 28 record my paper trading experiment here:
update: 4:26pm Sep 22nd,
10 calls + 10 puts, strike price spy 120, expires on OCT 11.
10 calls cost $3880, now value $1550
10 puts cost $4420, now value $8435
total gain/loss: $1685
% return: 20.3% |
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w****x
发帖数: 233 | 29 和没有被assign相比?
被assign后相当于低价买进股票.
如果不考虑margin 和margin interest, 是否和保留卖出的put一样？ |
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c*********t
发帖数: 2921 | 30 spy 116 put
IBM 170 put |
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p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 31 Dow was down 30-40 points when I sold puts.
dow closed 140+ points. my best put has 20+% profit. |
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p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 33 寄信人: p838 (挣钱快乐！)
标 题: Re: 转牛了！卖了很多PUT，如果不再跌5%，下周五就大赢利。
发信站: 未名空间 (Fri Sep 30 22:58:10 2011)
来 源: 24.0.
大部分是裸put 裸call。有一部分有仓位对冲。 |
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p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 34 我不做组合option。
我一般分开卖 Call 和 Put。
我最希望猪（一周+ -3%以内），Call 和 Put 都白拿。
今天收盘 和我卖的时候也就跌1%以内。 |
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p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 35 发信人: p838 (挣钱快乐！), 信区: Stockcafeteria
标 题: Re: 从DOW 怎么就看不出 熊样？-- 除了牛和熊，还有猪！
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 6 09:52:59 2011, 美东)
关了PUT，留RIMM空仓。观看周五决战。
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发信人: p838 (挣钱快乐！), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: 从DOW 怎么就看不出 熊样？ -- 除了牛和熊，还有猪！
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Oct 5 17:38:29 2011, 美东)
今天空了RIMM，关了一部分PUT，账户中性偏牛。
等待周五决战。
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发信人: p838 (挣钱快乐！), 信区: Stockcafeteria
标 题: Re: 大牛出来讲讲当前的形势和我们的任务吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 4 19:28:30 2011, 美东)
下午，我开会没看盘。不过，我还是觉得这周不大跌（-3% 以上）。
还好开会之前，我买回所有的CALL，80%-90%利润。足够了。 |
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m*****t
发帖数: 1987 | 36 卖PUT是不是差不多等于买CALL？如果你卖的PUT在到期前涨了，你是不是还得买回来？
那不是有可能损失更多？谢哪位解答一下。 |
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p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 37 发信人: p838 (挣钱快乐！), 信区: Stockcafeteria
标 题: 今天的PUT跌得太好了。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Oct 10 11:41:51 2011, 美东)
上周五卖的 PUT 有的都跌了35%以上。 |
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B**********r
发帖数: 7517 | 38 This is not the best strategy. When you sell put, you long that 3x ETF, and
you lose on volatility decay.
So instead of selling put, you sell calls on the opposite 3x ETF. |
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w*********i
发帖数: 3092 | 39 是的，风险比较大，心理承受能力要比较强
weekly put需要盯盘，DT的多，快进快出，不建议效仿
至于monthly put就还好了，比如像AMZN |
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l*******0
发帖数: 342 | 40 My apple put only $700 per contract (2)
My sina put -100%
Missed AEM 2100% gain
股市赚钱好难呀。 |
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G*******m
发帖数: 16326 | 41 改善margin的同时，发现在IWM 64处有伏兵一枝，long put（是原先64/62bear spread
的旧部）。
今天要加以利用，先卖了1半的IWM 68 put。
明日看情况，再继续利用这枝伏兵。 |
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l*********g
发帖数: 1154 | 42 NFLX Oct 80 puts yesterday was deeply out of money with only 4 days left to
expire, so it was trading at $0.1 per share, almost worthless. All of a
sudden, NFLX dropped below $80 today, and the puts become in the money today
and trading around $6 per share.that is
60 times increase in value. it is like hitting a lottery. |
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r*****e
发帖数: 792 | 43 是的，有保护。我想还是明天看看我long的puts值多少钱再说吧。
以前干过类似的事，long的option time value太小，导致根本没有
利润可言。如果我每个星期roll over一次57.5的话，12月份还有
5次机会。1月份的还有额外的5次。得到的premium可以买更低的
puts，假设gmcr会去40-的话。这样也不亏倒是。
67 |
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z***e
发帖数: 5600 | 44 You basically have a number of (calendar) put spreads which expresses a
bearish view (dont expect to make money in every single leg). As the stock
trades down significantly cross your down strike, you should make a decent
profit. If you do not want to continue to bet on whether the stock will be
up or down after, say, hitting 40 or 45 tomorrow, you can just close all the
positions (make sure you sell the puts at or above intrinsic value and buy
back the weekly near intrinsic). You would lose ... 阅读全帖 |
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r*****e
发帖数: 792 | 45 well said. i had similar experience before aapl's ER. got assigned
while shorting puts, but when aapl went up from 360->400, i did not
lose too much on my long puts. but i don't plan to do the same this
time. will either clear all shorts or roll over to next week.
intrinsic.
be too |
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l*********g
发帖数: 1154 | 46 sounds like you are a guru, here i have a question for you, I bot Sina Nov
80 put and Nov 82.5 call yesterday by paying a lot of time value for the
option, and today after the earning, the time value vanished a lot, the
price dropped 10% today, but not enough to make my Nov 80 put in the money
enough to offset the big price drop on the Nov 82.5 call,
I am a little worried this sucker may just trade between 75-85 before Nov.
19, which will make my positions worth much less than what i paid for, d... 阅读全帖 |
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z***e
发帖数: 5600 | 47 The stock was ~85 yesterday? Then your call was ITM and your put was OTM,
hence you had a bullish bias in your strangle, i.e., you were slightly long
as of yesterday. Therefore, you lost money today after a 10% move down.
Now you could take a loss to get out, or if you want to "extract value" out
of the options, you would need to trade the stock well (7 days is still a
long time for this market). For instance, if you think 77.5 is the low, you
should sell the 80P now and keep the call hoping ... 阅读全帖 |
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a***s
发帖数: 5417 | 48 这些puts都在前几天很贵的时候开的，当时价格在每个$5以上。
谁会买昂贵的puts 做hedge. |
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p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 49 发信人: p838 (挣钱快乐！), 信区: Stockcafeteria
标 题: 赌性大发。sold RIMM Dec 17 '11 $14 Put.
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Dec 14 11:20:12 2011, 美东)
Wed Dec 14 11:11:33 2011 Sell *0 RIMM Dec 17 '11 $14 Put Executed @ $0.49
good luck! |
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l******n
发帖数: 152 | 50 青蛙请问：
经常看到这里的牛牛们说call and put，请问是指购买期权吗？
期权怎么操作啊？ call 指购入？ Put指什么？
不好意思啊，太菜了！ |
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