M****n
发帖数: 399 | 1 Right, I was wrong, Modern Lovers should be included in Pre-Punk, or
Proto-Punk. In U.S., the punk movement has a lot of relationships with CBGB in
New York, so it's hard to define whether a punk band in CBGB is Proto, U.S.
Punk or Post-punk. Another important artist, Patti Smith is also from there,
although she is widely known as a Folk singer. But one of her influences, Lou
Reed is regarded as godfather of Punk, and her husband, Fred Smith was from
another Pre-Punk band, MC5.
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M****n
发帖数: 399 | 2 The Clash is great, but the reason they are great is partly because they were
not so "Punk" compare with contempory Punk bands in UK.
"London Calling", "The Clash", "Sandinista!" are all great albums.
For Pre-Punk, you need to check The Velvet Underground, The stooges and Iggy
Pop, The Ramonds, The MC5.
For UK Punk, there are The Sex Pistol, The Clash, The Damns, etc.
For US Punk, there are the New York Dolls and some other CBGB stuff.
For Post-Punk and New Waves, there are the Television, the C |
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t****d
发帖数: 127 | 3 The Clash!!1. my favorite punk band.. well.. almost..
the earlier Cure was very punkish..
Bad Brains.. if u r into underground stuff.. all black hardcore punk band from
DC.. .
I like Pennywise.. they r kinda of old..
Modern Lovers... punk before punk was punk..
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L***n
发帖数: 3 | 4 Old School: punk rock in 70's ?
Sex pistol(do I need to mention this one?)
Ramones(My favorite), My 1st choice 'Ramones Mania' when I need to drive for
more than 10 hrs.
undertones, pop-punk, but far better than today's blink 182, green day.
the Damned, the jam, buzzcocks, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Adverts,.....
Compare with 70's, today's punk rock really sucks. Almost all are pop-punk
bands. and All songs are similiar.
Hardcore punk, You should try Dead Kennedys's Fresh Fruit for Rotting
Vegeta |
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t****d
发帖数: 127 | 5 hmm.. also... just because somebody came first.. that doesn't make them
automatically the best.. hehe..
and while we r on the topic of punk... u know what my biggest gripe with punk
is?... lack of intelligence... alot of punk are just thuggish white kids to
act silly and tough.. that is my opinion btw.. :-) However, just because it is
punk doesn't mean it has to be the lowest denominator... I think the clash,
sex pistols, modern lovers, the cure, and later punk bands like pennywise...
bad religi |
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X******i
发帖数: 1384 | 6 亲，你放的这个是PENTATONIX致敬DAFT PUNK的。DAFT PUNK的标志是永远带着摩托车头
盔似的面具，都不知道真人长的什么样。更重要的是，DAFT PUNK是法国的乐队。 |
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q*o
发帖数: 105 | 7 punk 很会享受，经常去吃各种各样的料理，
人又很大方，经常请客。
(但是没请过我的说)
一次他请一位阿尔巴尼亚籍艾塞俄比亚朋友吃海鲜，
小姐端上一盘螃蟹，
punk 就给朋友介绍说用中文叫"螃...",
突然他发现盘子里还混进了蝌蚪，
(象是黑心香港店的风格!)
情不自禁地叫出“蝌..."。
现在那位阿尔巴尼亚籍艾塞俄比亚朋友，
每次吃中餐，
都指着螃蟹冲着服务员大喊 "punk"! |
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M*****g
发帖数: 1054 | 8 在video store看到一部纪录片叫做"Chinese Punk"。激动不已。和刘德华张艺谋
无关的小众艺术总是叫我激动不已。马上拿回家看。很好，很愤怒很raw很生猛，了不起
。里面主要介绍了三个北京地下乐队：
1。刺猬Hedgehog。最叫人惊奇的是里面那个鼓手是个女孩子！还有哪个乐队的鼓手是
女孩子？还看上去这么乖巧，还把鼓打得这么有感情！刺猬在我听来也是里面最不朋克
比较偏摇滚的一个。好多首歌的开始让我想到Sigur Ros。音乐里有种透明的效果。男
主唱声音很特别。还有，那个鼓手女孩子有时候还把女声混入背景里，很好听。片子里
说他们演出的地方在北大东门一个叫作"D-22"的酒吧里。为什么，为什么我去年夏天的
时候每天在北大东门晃悠，就是没瞧见这地儿呢？
2。MiSanDao。主唱长得象bulldog，自己也养了两条bulldog。两条狗在影片里上窜下
跳，啃音箱，还不时有性爱镜头。音乐是很标准的punk。歌词里多是小民在日趋贫富
悬殊的新中国里的愤怒与悲哀，诸如 The Olympics is a fucking game for the rich
and hell for... 阅读全帖 |
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e********k
发帖数: 1110 | 9 真心讨论那, 两者关系很紧密啊
punk的切分不少的, 感觉切分其实是punk的一个重要特征
另外solo时候的double stop做得也多
个人感觉在riff写的时候, metal会多次强调调的tonic note, 而punk会把和弦的
root note作为基础
另外metal对单音的强调更多, 节奏型上多用16分音符
不知道这样分析是否有道理, 大家神马感觉? |
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s******w
发帖数: 16 | 10 重温Punk时代的经典嚎叫
评唱片合集《1-2-3-4：Punk & New Ware 1976—1979》
“1977年，没有猫王，没有披头士,没有滚石”。朋克们曾经这样叫
嚣过.20年过去了，这些明日张胆的反叛者们已如划过天际的陨星般
消失了。现在由朋克乐上声名卓著的无政府主义者、反基督徒、三和
弦论的偏执狂们所组成的经典级的朋克和新浪漫乐队被浓缩成一套5
张CD的合集和一本48页的小册子——(1—2—3—4：Punk＆ New
Wavel976一1979)(以下简称《1—2—3—4》)，由环球刚刚推出。
凭借其选曲及文字资料编撰所倍守的朋克信条和专辑质量，《1—2—
3—4》可称得上一座神珍型的朋克乐的卢浮官，尽管它的制作者也坦
言由于版权上的一些障碍，少数重要曲目未能收录，但这本附5CD的
有声书籍仍为我们奉上了100首曲风、情绪各异的朋克艺术品：从编
曲结构精巧严谨的 Television的《Marquee Moon》(月亮帐篷)到怪
诞而充满黑色幽默意味的 The Not Sensibles的 I'm In Love With
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L***n
发帖数: 3 | 11 There is no position for the band you mentioned in the top 10, or 20 best
hardcore punk bands. Those guys were only little kids when the best hardcore
punk albums appeared in 80's. But if you like it, that's Ok. That's your best.
By the way, How many punk albums do u have and how many have u listend to? If
only 10, 20, don't make your decision so fast. that's only the best album of
your all 10 albums.
jazz
for
band), |
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t****d
发帖数: 127 | 12 hahah.. woah.. easy there tiger.. I should've added a smiles in there.. yah..
it is only my opinion.. I actually own quite a few punk albums... and not to
mention that all my skating videos are full of punk music.. if u like punk..
then did u ever check out the Warp tour? I saw bouncing souls, pennywise,
dropkick murphy, orange 9mm... too bad bad religion wasn't playing that
particular tour.. I really wanted to see them..
Refused is relatively new.. and they are from sweden.. and they broke up r |
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a****c
发帖数: 339 | 13 【 以下文字转载自 Stock 讨论区 】
发信人: jiejue (孑孓), 信区: Stock
标 题: 慎入PUNK这类PENNY股，DTC要收200-500额外费的
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 4 23:25:05 2011, 美东)
今天早晨一登账户，发现账上一下亏了200多，我看了下自己的股票，亏是亏了，但也
没亏这么多啊。于是查ACTIVITY，发现昨天连被charge了四项fee, 一共200多。都是因
为PUNK这只股票。打电话问了以后，才知道PUNK这类PENNY股 is not DTC eligible.
所以在卖掉的时候会被charge 200-500不等。 我心那个痛啊，想着自己买这只股票才
花了90多刀，早知道捂着亏完了也比这个fee划算啊。
我是个刚孵出来的小蝌蚪，开户1000刀，现在亏得一半不到了，这个fee就占了大头。
只能当是交学费了。
写出来给同为蝌蚪的人看看，别犯跟我一样的错误。 |
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j****e
发帖数: 314 | 16 今天早晨一登账户，发现账上一下亏了200多，我看了下自己的股票，亏是亏了，但也
没亏这么多啊。于是查ACTIVITY，发现昨天连被charge了四项fee, 一共200多。都是因
为PUNK这只股票。打电话问了以后，才知道PUNK这类PENNY股 is not DTC eligible.
所以在卖掉的时候会被charge 200-500不等。 我心那个痛啊，想着自己买这只股票才
花了90多刀，早知道捂着亏完了也比这个fee划算啊。
我是个刚孵出来的小蝌蚪，开户1000刀，现在亏得一半不到了，这个fee就占了大头。
只能当是交学费了。
写出来给同为蝌蚪的人看看，别犯跟我一样的错误。 |
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s******e
发帖数: 16 | 17 " target="_blank" class="a2">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JetSetTour2003/
'Hang On the Box', first Chinese all girl punk, and BrainFailure's Jet Set Tour 2003.
Beijing -Austin - Chicago- NY- LA -SF -Tokyo
You are welcomed to post live reviews, interviews, pictures in the group.
Please spread words for them and go to their show to support them.
Beijing Punk Jet Set US Tour 2003 with Hang On The Box & Brain Failure
~ Beijing -Austin - Indianapolis- Chicago- NY - Philly- NJ-LA -SF -
Tokyo ~
- upda |
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t****d
发帖数: 127 | 18 no way dude.. the best hardcore punk album ever released wasy Refused's The
shape of punk to come. Named after Ornette Coleman's album.. the shape of jazz
to come.
thekid.
It's
instead
band |
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t****d
发帖数: 127 | 19 uhnn? modern lovers's self titled album came out before sex pistol's..
the drummer went to the cars.. the keyboardist joined talking heads.. and
ex-violinist of the velvet underground produced half of the album..
hmm.. I have heard that velvet underground was one of the bands that started
it all.. alot of the later punk bands were influenced by them..
hehe.. what does the clash have anything to do with contemporary punk bands in
UK? they came out the sametime as the sex pistols.. I think the cla |
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t****d
发帖数: 127 | 20 really? they r married? hmm.. wow.. yah.. I know about the cbgb era... can't
say I liked everything that came out of it.. but def important..
yah.. I do agree that punk is more about attitude than the music itself..
however I think there r many ways to express that attitude.. attitudes doesn't
really change.. but the lingos change.. u know.. like hiphop.. it used to be
"word." now it is like "for sho".. hehe.. not like I care.. the point is that
I love the Clash for their exploration of the punk |
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d**h
发帖数: 159 | 21 who are Beijing Punk? what brand? or just punk? |
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c**e
发帖数: 3760 | 23 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
cure (musikaholic) 于 (Thu Feb 23 13:15:04 2006) 提到:
有人让我看舌头的歌词，然后我就想，啥是后朋克呢？
上wikipedia看了一下：
"Typically more introverted, complex, arty, and experimental than classic
punk rock ... "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-punk
按这个标准，舌头更象朋克，而不是后朋克啊。
没有觉得他们很内敛，复杂，艺术化
搜了搜后朋克乐队
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_post-punk_bands
Joy Division, 后朋克的鼻祖，不说我还真想不到他们的音乐风格跟朋克有啥联系
再看什么new order, Depeche Mode 我以为都是电子乐队呢。
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R*****l
发帖数: 310 | 24 【 以下文字转载自 Music 讨论区 】
发信人: ReadAll (Muziek Ziel), 信区: Music
标 题: Ash - Then And Now [Punk/Rock]
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 31 19:49:16 2007), 转信
演唱歌手：Ash
专辑名称：Then And Now
专辑曲风：Punk/Rock
歌曲格式：VBR
发行日期：2007-03-22
主页http://www.ash-official.com/，没找到封面，进去主页蛮搞的一张图，不错的专辑。
选第5首作试听是因为觉得前奏很有意思，呵呵
PS: Album title may change before official release.
Ash are an alternative rock band that formed in
Downpatrick (Northern Ireland) in 1992. The media
originally pegged Ash's music as Britpop when the band
first fo |
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d********f
发帖数: 43471 | 25 CNN很有喜感
Though it was widely reported that George Zimmerman grumbled a racial slur
before shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, his lawyers have insisted their
client instead said "F---ing punks".
Now they seem to have science on their side. Renowned forensic audio expert
Tom Owen analyzed the 911 recording—which was fraught with cell phone
interference—and told CNN that Zimmerman indeed whispered "punks" and not
the racial slur that has caused so much controversy.
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s******e
发帖数: 16 | 26 If anyone has a van, or a car, and especially if you speak
Mandarin, if you want to help out driving the dirty Beijing punks
around SF, from the airport, to shows, to dinner, etc., just let me
know! Even one ride would help! (October 29--Nov.5)
anna sophie: b****[email protected]
ps. not to mention that if you have a big house and you want
Beijing punks crashing there, let me know too!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JetSetTour2003/ |
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s******e
发帖数: 16 | 27 If anyone has a van, or a car, and especially if you speak
Mandarin, if you want to help out driving the dirty Beijing punks
around SF, from the airport, to shows, to dinner, etc., just let me
know! Even one ride would help! (October 29--Nov.5)
anna sophie: b****[email protected]
ps. not to mention that if you have a big house and you want
Beijing punks crashing there, let me know too!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JetSetTour2003/ |
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s******e
发帖数: 16 | 28 If anyone has a van, or a car, and especially if you speak
Mandarin, if you want to help out driving the dirty Beijing punks
around SF, from the airport, to shows, to dinner, etc., just let me
know! Even one ride would help! (October 29--Nov.5)
anna sophie: b****[email protected]
ps. not to mention that if you have a big house and you want
Beijing punks crashing there, let me know too!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JetSetTour2003/ |
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W**********r
发帖数: 8927 | 29 今天无聊，看了一部老电影，Clint Eastwood at his best in "Dirty Harry" --
1971年的电影 ～～
I know what you're thinking, punk.
You're thinking: did he fire six shots or only five?
Now to tell you the truth, I forgot myself in all this excitement.
But being this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and
will blow you head clean off, you've gotta ask yourself a question:
"Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk? |
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X******i
发帖数: 1384 | 30 还是大爷有品位。最近看维密在巴黎大皇宫的秀，才发现THE WEEKND的STARBOY也是和
DAFT PUNK合作的。 |
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X******i
发帖数: 1384 | 31 DAFT PUNK和WEEKND又一合作结晶，回归80年代纯音乐，颇有MJ遗风。我已经循环播放
无数遍了。 |
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x********e
发帖数: 35261 | 32 这哪里像mj像80风了？
Daft punk一直不温不火吧 |
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X******i
发帖数: 1384 | 33 亲，你又露怯了。出现的这个黑人是WEEKND， 加拿大人。最后出现的两个带头盔的才
是我法的傻瓜朋克组合，从不露真容的头盔是DAFT PUNK的标志。 |
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X******i
发帖数: 1384 | 34 你去看看和DAFT PUNK合作的音乐人名单，再来这里说。
公认这首歌是向MJ致敬，连WEEKND的服饰都模仿MJ。MV更是做了特别的做旧处理，才有
了这种80年代的效果。 |
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x********e
发帖数: 35261 | 35 Daft punk火一点的我只知道get lucky |
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t********r
发帖数: 3 | 36 警告一些别有用心的人，不要看到别人胖，吃的好就妒忌，就下黑手
今天早上上网，居然发现这里把我们爱戴的punk同志他老人家给封了
我当时就急了，是可忍，孰不可忍？！公道人心何在？现在我正告这
“一小撮”，玩火者必自焚！ |
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M*****g
发帖数: 1054 | 37 所以真的有糯米鸭？那应该很好吃吧。
这名字应该改成 Chinese Indie.越听Hedgehog越不是punk. |
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T******d
发帖数: 2139 | 38 今天才知道反光镜号称一支PUNK乐队。中国音乐的口味真轻啊。
挺喜欢他们的<<晚安北京>>。以为是个年轻乐队，没想到也是一堆70后大叔，组成乐队
10多年了。 |
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k*m
发帖数: 1664 | 39 不错。不太懂具体punk和rock如何区分，不过我记得Green Day是朋克乐队，他们歌曲的
鼓点和这个有点类似。 |
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l*******g
发帖数: 4894 | 40 这算挖坑吗？
差距很大，punk在节奏上比较单一，一般使用简单的和弦，大量的重复。
金属在节奏上有很大的变化，讲究和弦的riff和一些切分的技巧，另外一般都有大段的
solo。 |
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t**o
发帖数: 2618 | 41 最近一直在听gang of four
punk+funk 均十分地道 |
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u*********d
发帖数: 105 | 42 I listened to bad brains a lot. but i don't like hardcore very much, instead i
like their 'i and i will survive'
I like old school punk like iggy's 'come on everbody(?)'
from |
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g*******a
发帖数: 1383 | 43 For US Punk...lou reed and black flag... |
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M****n
发帖数: 399 | 44 hehe, yes, I forgot the Black Flag, one of the very few U.S. punk bands that
are not from New York.
were
Iggy
band |
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c*******u
发帖数: 1269 | 45 我有个同事自己有个punk乐队，要在附近的bar唱，
让我去听。会不会听着很难受，他说到时候给我
副耳塞，要是我嫌太吵的话。去不去呢？而且是不
是也没有女的去阿？ |
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h****o
发帖数: 66 | 46 doesn't matter. a lot of girls go to punk gigs. |
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r*****o
发帖数: 636 | 47 punk是个态度问题吧...吵不吵倒还在其次了... |
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g**o
发帖数: 3033 | 48 看这种演出女的不会少，不过要是他们是比较极端的punk，倒是要小心点场面
可能比较混乱，往后面站安全些。 |
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M****n
发帖数: 399 | 49 All the contemporary punk musics are bull shit. |
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w********l
发帖数: 10 | 50 It's difficult for a punk band not to be bullshit after several good ones are
out there already. There's nothing much you can do, hehe. |
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