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s**********g 发帖数: 314 | 3 LOL, PST10 does not deny he/she bashes. I have a good conversation thread
with PST10 and I think we understand each other.
Nevertheless, I have my point clear: You want to help new pet owner become a
good owner, not pushing them away by listing high costs, stating that they
should not own a pet.
I can take the word 'enforce' back, although he implicitly states the
following: one that is not going to pay all the costs he lists should not
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T8 发帖数: 157 | 21 请问是怎么个形式?online还是在教室(地点?)?英语还是中文? |
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y*******d 发帖数: 1765 | 22 spt pst10
养狗需要的commitment比初始买狗的钱要多的多
吃饭玩具这种日常开销不算
看兽医100一次算少的保险一般deduct 100
然后每次你出去vacation
要么你多花点钱带狗一起去住pet friendly的hotel
要么让狗狗去day care, day care一般20-40+一天不等
啃家具之类的开销因狗而易
俺家的就消耗了50块的coffee table一张
也有消耗几千块的沙发的
so if you don't agree the dog worth 750 bucks, dont bother adopting it.
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I********e 发帖数: 6130 | 23 First of all, I saw nothing in PST10's post meant to bash the original
poster (The fact you keep saying that he's bashing OP makes me think that
perhaps you are just overly sensitive). Secondly, he didn't try to *enforce*
his standard on anyone - someone posted something and he gave his honest
opinion. This is a BBS - how on earth can he enforce that on anyone? And I
certainly don't think he was saying these things just to make himself feel
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P******2 发帖数: 2312 | 24 PST100 was not trying to bash anybody. He just posted his honest opinion
so LZ has an idea about the potential cost and be aware of the
responsibility. It is indeed concerning to see LZ saying "break my heart to
spend $750 on a puppy".
Not everything listed by PST10 has to be done (like birthday :)). The actual
cost vary a lot mainly depending on dog's health. But if a person looks at
the list and still feels he wants a dog, he is more ready and the dog is
less likely to be abandoned later.
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p******e 发帖数: 80 | 25 家里有狗狗的大多会理解和支持PST10的帖子。完全没有夸大。
关于上面的回帖有两种说法:
一个是给狗狗绝育是剥夺狗狗的权利。这件事情在我送小家伙去之前,也是狠狠的做了
好几天research。养狗的人,大多是疼他们的,怎么舍得在他们身上动刀子。但是狗狗
不绝育有好几个隐患。一个是会容易的肿瘤。二是,从一岁开始,一年两次的特殊时期
,他们会很痛苦。三是生下来的小狗怎么安排。我想过要自己养。但是就算是一年生一
窝,也是不可能负担下来的。送出去要一个个验证好人家不说,难道不是对狗狗的残忍
么?非要他们骨肉分离。不要说主人都是因为怕麻烦让狗狗挨一刀。我当时送她去之后
,提心吊胆了一天,接回来,又提心吊胆了2个星期,一直到复查医生说恢复良好,才
放心下来。送她去做手术,是我权衡很久最后的决定,是为了她将来的健康快乐。
二是说美国的狗狗太金贵了。这个么,人要与时俱进。为了看家护院养狗狗的(假设在
农村),大多生活水平都不高,周围的兽医的水平也不高。弄个狗瘟,死了,也没法子
。可是现在明明有疫苗可以防止狗狗得病,难道为了省钱不去打?狗狗陪了你10年之后
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I********e 发帖数: 6130 | 26 If you think to qualify as a good parent you should send your kids to the
best private schools, I wouldn't say you are bashing me 'cause you are
making a general point which is not specifically geared towards me.
PS: PST10 didn't deny he judged. He didn't say he was bashing AFAIK unless I
missed posts. There's a distinct difference.
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u*****y 发帖数: 507 | 27 Buying a puppy from a pet store to start with is very problematic already.
Have you guys heard about puppy mill? I don't think there's a huge problem
with getting a puppy for free. But the point is: Would you also treat the
puppy as a "FREE" item, without caring much, for example to abandon it later
on? So I fullly support PST10.
BTW: linglingO, You posted this
" 他的生日,你会买礼物给他么? "
as a joke.
But for all of the dog owners that I know, they all do. It doesn't have to
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u*****y 发帖数: 507 | 28 OK. Back up 1000 steps. PST10's post is not that scary, just a little
overwhelming maybe.
A prepared "to-be" owner, or following your very awkward analogy a prepared
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s*******t 发帖数: 793 | 29 “最好的奶粉,最好的衣服,最贵的学校。。。”这些确实是你推理出来的,虽然我没
太明白是怎么推出来的。PST10的原文没有任何地方提到最贵最好这些字眼,他/她列出
的绝大多数都是合理的花销,除了grooming, organic food,过生日这些恐怕刺痛一些
人的眼睛。但是谁也没说这是必须的。
现实是大家不管多穷,会尽量给孩子自己能做到的最好的生活,但是,不是所有人都愿
意在狗身上花钱,哪怕就几百块。这就是问题所在。这就是为什么养之前要想清楚,愿
不愿意花钱,在一条狗身上。
pets版会有些个别极端言论,大家一致认同的是养了就要负责,对宠物不离不弃。这个
不离不弃,除了爱心,很多时候是靠金钱解决的,比如狗如果损坏家具,比如要搬家,
比如出门旅游的话请人来看等等。这些都不是什么意想不到的特殊情况,都是要钱解决
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H*******4 发帖数: 1025 | 30 按你的意思,穷人就不配有朋友吗?
回馈有很多,物质只是其中的一种。好多喜欢狗的人都说狗比猫好是因为狗忠诚,不会
因为家里穷而离开。狗不会用物质来衡量你,你却用物质衡量狗。
按这推理穷人是不是因为不能给孩子买好奶粉,好衣服,好学
校,因为要
工作不能给孩子所有的时间和关注就不配有孩子呢?
加以修改希望合您的心意,免费奉上一句,回不不是PST10的贴。
PS:
LZ只说想要便宜点的狗,没说不会负责任。 |
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u*****y 发帖数: 507 | 31 了解。
其实PST10不是judge你,可能看到太多uneducated 1st-time owner了。Nothing
personal.
不过我真的不推荐大家从pet store买小狗,不了解的朋友们可以bing or google "
puppy mill"。看看宠物店的小狗哪里来的。
live
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d********0 发帖数: 5142 | 40 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
a468950 (jojo) 于 (Fri May 14 17:00:30 2010, 美东) 提到:
俺也是这么认为。 拍个焰照算啥, 人身材还是傲人的。
好多WSNs也就只有这时候才有机会看看女人是什么样儿,就表边吃肉边骂娘。
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zlike (最终幻想) 于 (Fri May 14 17:06:45 2010, 美东) 提到:
基本上是大妈级女人在骂,男人都高兴死了。
期待视频。
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PST10 (不灌水就得裸着) 于 (Fri May 14 17:09:12 2010, 美东) 提到:
真没见过世面啊,至于高兴死了么?
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I*******O 发帖数: 894 | 41 【 以下文字转载自 Seattle 讨论区 】
发信人: PST10 (不灌水就得裸着), 信区: Seattle
标 题: Re: PUPPY 怎么这么贵, 大家帮我留意看谁有送狗的!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 13 15:55:25 2010, 美东)
恕我直言,您还是别养狗了。
购买puppy所付的一次性费用,跟后续的你要为他/她一生所不断持续追加的费用相比,
简直是微不足道的。
在你的puppy领回家以后,需要为他购买一系列的用具,笼子,100多,狗盆,狗垫子,
colar, leash, shampoo,towel,每件都小,但是从petco出来你发现账单其实有300多。
你还需要为他第一年买一个保险,至少200多,你愿意么?
刚开始要为他注射3-4次疫苗,每次都要100多,你会掏钱么?
第一年会经常生病,拉稀,每次去看医生至少要100多(就算买了保险也经常要付药品
的费用),你会带他去看病么?
puppy不懂事,会啃坏你的家具,在你崭新的地毯上撒尿,你的吸尘器会因为吸他的毛
而坏掉,不得不购进一个更昂贵的可以吸狗毛的吸尘器,这些你都愿意支付么?
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r**********e 发帖数: 133 | 42 HOCC mm“挖坑”<<荒废的两三年。。。>>创本版点击记录,在短短两天时
间内点击达13770(截止PST10:41am,04/17/2007),另外此坑也高居未名置顶,
为此本版特奖励HOCC mm MITBB$200(其中$50是创记录奖励)。
注:对于此主题里面的小说本版正在酝酿其它奖励。 |
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