s*****e 发帖数: 248 | 1 手感难道不是main决定的? 我试过一次hybrid,poly main + multi cross. 手感没
觉得多不一样,但cross很快就断了,岂不是什么好处都没有?
Or did I miss something...
别。 |
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O*********r 发帖数: 1835 | 3 你是说区别全在 55磅 Vs 57磅上?不是 Poly 对 synthetic Gut 的本质区别? |
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 4 Poly (Kirschbaum Pro Line II 17 (1.25) String Black), $12。
TW不是onsale 4套$24么? |
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 6 要一直都是打sync gut的话换成poly要适应一下。的确感觉较硬无力, 挥拍需要更大
力些,准备需要更充分些。 当然你要不怎么上旋的话不用费事换了。 |
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 7 另外把poly降个10%,到52磅试试。顺手了再绷紧点。 |
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p********3 发帖数: 853 | 8 完全同意老肯的看法, syn gut太费了, 要勤换线才行!
手感这个问题, 就是你适应了syn gut的手感, 但不能说syn gut的手感就更好,,等
你用惯了poly你估计会说, syn gut很烂, 跑线快, 掉磅快! |
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O*********r 发帖数: 1835 | 9 的确是这样。我原本在3.5的 club。教练的评价也是我是正经3.5。若是我能在正手暴
力一点,发球再多些变化(现在几乎大多是 slice,少许kicker;没办法,乒乓出生的
缘故),能多点 flat serve,就有指望向4。0进军。这也是我和教练的目标。
可能有一天我开始喜欢Poly ,厌弃synthetic Gut,就是有望4。0的时候。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 10 Syn gut和poly都需要3年才能打断的飘过。。。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 11 偶的经历不同。
偶syn gut狂走,照样需要3年打断。一根head的最烂线,现在已经2年多了。
Poly不走,也是3年。(现在8个月磨掉1/4)
所以走不走无所谓,走线白白增加了整理线的labor... |
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g*****y 发帖数: 7271 | 12 对啊,我也是那样上的,不过对我的线用处好像不大。后来一度用来
调整tension。不过不用poly以后,现在不用它了。 |
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t****i 发帖数: 4225 | 13 I hate dead poly. Now I am using snakebite (asus recommended, ;)), and it
has been on my racquet for 10 days. It feels dead. |
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 14 I'm hybriding SPPP with NRG2. If it's full poly string job, the feel must be
worse. I don't want to cut it. The NRG2 already started to flake.
Eventually it will break. |
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 15 某人要卖给我上着poly线的球拍了
终于能见识一下了,哈哈 |
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v***s 发帖数: 1893 | 17 when u go poly, you will never go back. |
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h*******s 发帖数: 8454 | 18 另外,有的人就喜欢poly dead以后的手感。。。
有的人,比如我,手感迟钝,分辨不出来区别 |
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e***y 发帖数: 1443 | 19 前阵子心血来潮,剪了我的ALU Power,换了一个multifilament,打了一次就把拍子撂
边上了
现在只用全poly了,偶尔在小拍面得拍子上绑个hybrid |
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a***8 发帖数: 2433 | 20 Actually, it measures Wellmoon's and CC's string jobs right on mark, so is
my poly main's measurement. It deserves some credibility. |
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K****h 发帖数: 1073 | 21 用过8 边型的POLY, 绑上去后看起来扁扁的, 打起来也感觉差不多,SPIN关键还是要
看打法。 |
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O*********r 发帖数: 1835 | 22 昨天再看 Lendl 的比赛,感觉跟现代网球差别太大了。平击,大陆式握拍,打得小心
翼翼。用力大了球出界,小了球不过网,打边角准确度不高。
现代网球,windshield wiper,西方式握拍,拼命猛抽,既有net clearance, 又不出
界,还有deep penetration。Ground stroke 非常的 consistent。
很多人说现代网球跟80年代网球主要区别是因为poly。但我怎么还是觉得还是
windshield wiper 的打法和西方式握拍的结果。synthetic gut 也可以打windshield
wiper,也可以用extreme grip。 只是 in between points 要不停调线而已。
哪位理论家给解释一下。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 23 Poly.
This is not a "chicken or egg" question.
Some points I don't agree with you:
1) Most importantly, I always assume 器材决定打法, not the
opposite. Lendl时代职业网球已经很完善,顶尖选手的打法是数以
几十万职业选手摸索检验出的适应当时器材的最容易出成绩的打法。
2) Lendl时代的小力拍,Control只有比现在更好,而不是更差。Borg
可以很轻易打出50回合以上。当今比赛能打到30回合都很罕见。偶自己
用的25年前的拍子,感觉最不缺的就是控制方向能力。
3)Windshield wiper之所以Lendl时代不存在,是因为打不出来。你去
找一块木拍(65拍面,18x20)试试就知道了。古典拍缺的就是力量,
你还要靠windshield wiper用力量换旋转,基本上是自杀。
windshield |
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O*********r 发帖数: 1835 | 24 wellmoon 和 kennyD 分析得很透彻。
把poly和大拍面禁了就费费一个人玩了。 |
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 25 ff也用poly。。。
如果都用回古代的线+拍,估计只有斯泰潘内克一个人玩了。人家是发上打法,正手大
陆式握拍,单反 |
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R*****n 发帖数: 610 | 26 No doubt is the string. when pete sampras is dominating wimbledon, he has
been using pro staff 85. I don't think that is a lot of difference between
that racket and today's racket.
But today's poly string grab the ball so much and generate the spin that
makes serve-and-volley almost extincts. |
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f*****n 发帖数: 18176 | 28 16全poly第一把要至少一个半钟。我一般一次穿两把,这样第二把稍微孰手点。完事后
手指头都疼。 |
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 29 一高手球友,超级暴力超级上旋,一直用syn gut,几天断一根线
也是逐渐开始看器材啥的,以前也不太在乎,在我的劝说下上了poly,今天第一次用,
那个效果,真明显啊,简直没治了,每个球都压在线上,和用高科技作弊似的
看来这器材啊,还是得用在会家子上,才有意义,lol |
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R****n 发帖数: 708 | 30 want to try my isospeed 17? I used hybrid with Gosen micro 16. Er Nai use
full poly setup. |
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a****n 发帖数: 4734 | 31 还不错。不过所有poly我用起来都差不多,所以我的意见可能没什么参考性。 |
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a***8 发帖数: 2433 | 32 Hi Yoss, long time no see...
The main difference between Golden Set and Luxilon is not soft or crisp, but
the power level. Golden Set is a noticeable less powered string compare to
Luxilon. If you are a hard hitter and likes the kind of "dead" feeling of
string bed to boost control, then go with Golden set. People like CC, ASUS
and Ken213 are examples - all are typical Bao Li Nan, hitting hard with good
top spin.
Also, the "dead" strings work better with heavier racquets, which is not a
problem ... 阅读全帖 |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 33 I can string the PS6.0 with your isospeed 17 - see how that feels. I bet it
provides more power than my mgpm even with 18 gauge full poly setup... |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 34 Hey man, was unfortunate couldn't make it out to the party last year :( Was
in China... lol Hopefully can make it out there this year.
Been mostly hibernating in winter with some occasional skiing - it's been a
bad year for that as well. Started hitting again recently, and thinking of
cutting my poly set up since it feels absolutely dead to me(I strung them
over 6 months ago).
Yep my current setup is also Luxilon Ace 18 - with the dense 18x20 string
pattern coupled with the small head of mgpm... 阅读全帖 |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 35 On the PS6.0 I don't mind string it a little tighter, since the pattern is
pretty loose and the head is slightly larger. I still wouldn't go all the
way to 60 on a full poly setup though. Let me know what tension you want on
it - I can string it with whatever I have and bring the racquet next time
we play. |
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k****3 发帖数: 2770 | 36 I am still using the Hex Poly. Few more left to go then gonna test
Snakebite. Btw, I have never order reel before, lol. How do you measure
the actual length need for main and cross? Will buy a reel or two next time
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R****n 发帖数: 708 | 37 Gosen 那个最便宜的poly就是黄色透明的,不是很挂球,刚开始比较硬. |
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R****n 发帖数: 708 | 39 poly has no benefit for beginners,too harsh for arm and less power.if you
are above 3.5, just go for it. |
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b*e 发帖数: 3845 | 40 you may try Tourna Poly Big Hitter Silver 17 or Big Hitter Blue or Big
Hitter Blue Rough. The playability is pretty decent. They're betwen $7-8 a
set.
Or if you have more $$, try Weiss Cannon Scorpion 16L (1.22) or Silverstring
(1.20), $10-$11 a set. They're even better. All of them are pretty soft and
comfortable to play. |
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R****n 发帖数: 708 | 41 I assume that you have no stringing machine.You can buy a thick synthetic
guy (16 or 15L) and string 1-2 lb higher than the recommended middle tension
. Or a hybrid of poly main and synthetic gut cross, string the racquet a
little bit lower than middle tension.
If the stringing labor is cheap like 10$ or you have a stringing machine,
the recommended strings abpve are all good. |
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n*********e 发帖数: 25274 | 42 几磅?
15L, 16L, 17L, 18L?
全poly还是hybrid? |
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T*********s 发帖数: 98 | 44 大拍面 with 54lb and 17, 应该还不会太伤肘子,虽然是全poly. |
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 45 听说越高越细越好,但也同时越容易断?
有这说法没?
既然poly相对不容易断,岂不是用18好一些?
用18 和用17 tension应该有啥变化不? |
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 46 嗯,网上的说法跟我的理解一致
想问问用过人的意见,用18的如何?
我觉得反正poly断线慢了,有人还用剪刀剪,不如干脆买细的呢
不知道理解对不对
18的有啥缺点? |
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z*********n 发帖数: 94654 | 47 x2自带不少线,够用一阵子的,哈哈
不过我的刷球打法,迷信poly了 |
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w********u 发帖数: 1865 | 48 M2 plus 基本是我近几年用过最硬的线了,我一般都是用soft poly加multi的hybrid.
Power |
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f*****n 发帖数: 18176 | 49 呵呵,那我比你强一点点,85拍,全poly,还是能偶尔一下,可惜不稳定。 |
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a****n 发帖数: 4734 | 50 hybrid,横竖不一样。肯定是掉磅了,不过我觉得手感还挺好的。
原来就是18的poly,现在细了一半(准确地说是扁了),大概是20gauge了。 |
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