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d*********k
发帖数: 1239
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那就便宜的吧~
等以后有钱的时候在换个DA 40, FA 43, DA 55之类的吧~
pentax-F 50mm 1.7 和 pentax-AF 50mm 1.4,这两个头是不是差不多啊?没有什么大
的区别么?
e**n
发帖数: 5876
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 要不Pentax以后就改称H+了?
Panasonic
Pentax
本来第二个字母, a>e, 就是Panasonic在前. Pentax霸占了这么多年P+的名字, 现在总
算是要还给rightful owner了. 至于Pentax是叫H+还是P2+, 那就随便了.
y*********e
发帖数: 7269
3
来自主题: PhotoGear版 - pentax k-5 pre-order at amazon
PentaxUSA是最没有作为的区域公司,估计压根不做市场调研。维修也外包给第三方了
,而且拍的广告一直都是很土,都是自己找几个员工复读产品features。
欧洲,中国的Pentax都做得不错。
Youtube上面几个比较不错的Pentax广告,都是欧洲拍的。
无忌上面Pentax能一直在热门品牌排行榜第三。
难怪645D在欧洲都开始销售了。美国这里还是没有动静。
N**D
发帖数: 10322
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - zz宾德公司对PENTAX *ist D的解释
* means zero or more of the one before
so pentax *ist
means
pentax ist
pentax ist
f********w
发帖数: 1188
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It comes with 3 lenses:
SMC Pentax-M 1:1.7 50mm
SMC Pentax-M Macro 1:4 100mm
Pentax Zoom 1:4.5 80-200mm
n**b
发帖数: 13203
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这是我在Amazon上看到的认可程度最高的一个评价,里面说更高档的T2i其实还不如
Pentax的KX,这是那个人说的,最后一段对Pentax和套头评价很高。
I eventually settled on the Pentax K-x after first buying, and then
returning, a Canon T2i.
I know that the T2i costs almost twice as much as the K-x, and they're not
direct competitors, but I think my experience illustrates what a great
camera and bargain the K-x is and how, for me at least, it was a giant
killer.
I initially pre-ordered a T2i for the $900 MSRP after reading the glowing
reviews in the press about th... 阅读全帖
t****x
发帖数: 282
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手里有一堆m42螺纹口的镜头,以前在ebay上买了个Pentax Spotmatic,mechanically
还是相当
不错的,但是毕竟是60年代的相机了,测光表经常罢工。
请教一下大家 Pentax 有什么新一点的手动对焦相机阿?最好是纯机械,只有测光表用
电池的。
Pentax LX 是不是就算是最新最高端的了?(1980-2001)
应该是用一个转接环就可以接m42螺纹口镜头了吧?
n**b
发帖数: 13203
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 原来Pentax用户也有Nikon Heart...
看来不满的P+用户还不少啊,而且竟然在P的大本营里发飙。。。
So a full plastic 35/2.4 is available at Nikkor 35/1.8 price?
"
weight is 124g, says plastic barrel, looks like plastic mount in news photo.
Nikkor 35/1.8G is 200g with metal mount, and SWM motor, SWM MOTOR!!!
And, BTW, maybe u don't care, it's 1-stop faster.
This is really depressing news for me. I could accept DA35/2.4 at $60, what
ever the IQ is. A F/2.4 is a F/2.4.
If pentax releases DA35/1.8, it will kill FA31, yes, it's right. But a lens
like DA35/2.4 at impr... 阅读全帖
y*********e
发帖数: 7269
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Pentax发布新镜头,25mm/f4
内置偏振镜片的设计很巧妙,可以从外面旋转。
Pentax D FA 645 25mm f/4
* built-in hood lens
* built-in filter holder
* weather proof
* some kind of a special coating/lens element
* aperture range: f/4 – f/32
* 12 lens elements in 8 groups
* minimum focusing distance will be less than 0.5m
* internal focus
* 96° angle of view
* 25mm in medium format is actually very wide - aprox. 20mm in 35mm
equivalent.
Read more on PhotoRumors.com: http://photorumors.com/2011/01/28/pentax-d-fa-6... 阅读全帖
R*N
发帖数: 2173
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http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=719681&t=2733
Buydig has the Pentax K-R in white w/18-55mm lens in black, red, and white
for $569 shipped after coupon code BUYDIGCLUB30 and free 7-9 days shipping.
They have Pentax K-r Digital SLR Digital Camera Black w/ 18-55mm and 50-
200mm Lens for $639 shipped with same coupon code.
Pentax K-r Digital SLR Digital Camera Black w/ 18-55mm and 55-300mm Lens is
$750 after coupon and free shipping.
b*******s
发帖数: 6139
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 为啥那么多人黑Pentax不黑Sony?
考了一下古,好像Pentax的好日子也就几年,Nikon一出来就占了上风啊。。。
"The corporation is best known for its "Pentax" brand cameras, starting with
the pivotal "Asahi Pentax" single-lens reflex camera of 1957, which
followed Asahi's first series of cameras, the Asahiflex of 1952."
"The Nikon F camera, introduced in 1959, was Nikon's first SLR camera. It
was one of the most advanced cameras of its day, and it influenced the
design of all later professional SLRs. Although most of its concepts had
already been introduced elsewh... 阅读全帖
z****6
发帖数: 10776
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Pentax ME Super 评测
Pentax ME Super 评测
前几天德芙在问, 于是从无忌上转载过来, 稍微修改了一点, 原帖在http://www2.xitek.com/production/product.php?a=post&id=802
优点
1. 体积小巧, 和Pentax MX是一个级别的, 比Nikon FM2n小了一圈
2. 取景器大, 仅次于MX, 比后来的Pentax Super-A什么的都大
3. 电子机械混合快门, 电子快门有Av档, 机械快门1/125s又让没电的时候不会变废铁
4. 4s-1/2000s的快门, 1/125s闪光同步, 这在宾得手动机身里是最强的了
5. 有快门上弦指示, 虽然在不怎么起眼的地方
6. 虽然小, 但拿起来手感还不错
7. 电池是LR44/SR44/A76规格, 方便
缺点
1. 没有曝光锁定, 是连续测光的
2. 没有反光板预升
3. 没有景深预览
4. 快门只能整档调整, 只有镜头上有光圈半档调整
5. 取景器里看不到光圈, 取景器外看不到快门
6. 塑料镀金属漆的机顶
7. 快门动静有点大
8. 曝光补偿是整档调整的
9. 没有TTL闪光功能
网... 阅读全帖
b*******s
发帖数: 6139
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老黄,我呕心沥血提建议容易吗,版上这些对Pentax提意见的出了我是盼着Pentax昌盛
,剩下的都是黑心肠往死了想把Pentax打成反革命的。。。
y*********e
发帖数: 7269
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第二款小Sensor的Evil相机应该是Kenko开发的
http://lenzfire.com/cam/2011/03/reveal-an-interesting-digital-c
奇怪的是为什么也挂在了Pentax名下。
当然Kenko和Pentax都是属于Hoya的
估计Hoya要把相机业务都归入Pentax名下

Belarus,
will
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y*********e
发帖数: 7269
15
最新消息
Pentax 645D拿下2011 Camera Grand Prix "Camera of the Year"大奖。
今年其他的编辑奖包括Tamron 18-270mm, Nikon D7000,Fujifilm x100,MAXART PX-
5V。
Grand Prix传统上被认为是年度摄影器材最重大的奖项,因为和EISA,TIPA,AP种类繁
多的奖项不一样,Grand Prix每年只设一个Camera of the Year。
这是Pentax历史上第四台荣获Grand Prix的相机。
Pentax 645D最近已经获得了TIPA年度最佳专业相机奖。
r*******d
发帖数: 958
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nod
当年minolta就是市场做得烂死掉的!
但这年头,互联网时代,用户的reviews很重要。
如果pentax真好不至于这么惨啊,
出门就几乎碰不到pentax用户,
local上的pentax机器感觉白菜价都很难卖掉。
r*******d
发帖数: 958
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哈哈,有道理
pentax一个致命弱点是 满足不了装逼需要
不过我喜欢pentax把东西做小的风格。
film时代pentax的东西就很袖珍
R***a
发帖数: 41892
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - pentax Q
http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=884437
??pentaxforums???:
World's Smallest and Lightest Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera
The Q represents an evolution in interchangeable lens digital camera design,
featuring the world抯 smallest and lightest body. Experience the PENTAX Q.
The Camera. Evolved.
Q-Mount Lens System
The Q features the newly designed PENTAX Q-mount lens system for convenient
interchangeability with a variety of specialty Q lenses. Choose from a
selection of prime, zo... 阅读全帖
e******e
发帖数: 1098
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - [FS] Pentax K-7 Body $600 DA 17-70 F4 360
器材名称
Pentax K-7 Body
付款方式(需要其他付款方式请联系卖家)
boa chase paypal
卖家联系方式
器材具体描述、价格、运费:
(均为现金/BOA/check/MO或non-cc paypal价,+$5 for echeck)
(其他付款方式引起的价格变动请与卖家联系)
600 net to me
Pentax K-7 K7 14.6 MP Digital SLR Camera BODY in mint condition. Shutter
count around 8000
I just upgraded to K-5. All the accessories are pulled out from my K-5 box
, and in new condition.
The sale includes following items:
K-7 Body
Battery and charger
Manual
AV cable
USB cable
NEW strap
Pentax SMC DA 17-70mm f/4 AL ... 阅读全帖
e**n
发帖数: 5876
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Pentax APS革命机木有了
http://photorumors.com/2011/06/29/leaked-pentax-document-indica
泄出的官方pdf文件, K-mount APS-C DSLRs, the 645D and the Q system 三条线, 木
有APS革命机和FF.
Q&A section:
A1: “Q” stands for Queen and Quality;
A11: Body is made in Philippines, “High Performance” lenses are in Vietnam
whereas the “Toy” lenses are made in Thailand.
A17: The flange focal length is 9.2mm.
A20: A brand new image processing engine is used. It is NOT a PRIME!
A21: The Q has no AA filter.
A26: There is no PEF (compressed Pentax RAW) fil... 阅读全帖
x****k
发帖数: 154
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 分析一下Ricoh购买Pentax这个事件
顶帮主
难道pentax-Q是Hoya要卖掉pentax前故意留给Ricoh的毒药一枚……

Pentax
b*******s
发帖数: 6139
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 革命机上Pentax要强于Nikon。。。
虽然都是Sony的Sensor,都是2,5x,但是Pentax的彩色外壳的设计明显要比Nikon的偏
工业设计要吸引用户。说实话,Nikon的东西都是给Geek用的,Pentax的看着明显更人
性话。
还有啊,Pentax的做小头的功力这回应该能体现出来了,小巧玲珑的机器,迷人的色彩
,定会引起无数大妈小姑娘的亲睐。我看好Q,可能会掀翻GF系列。
z****n
发帖数: 155
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我刚刚受到从Amazon买的Pentax K-r,可是盒子里面没有保修卡
我给他们打电话,说是让我直接联系Pentax,这个正常吗?
多谢!难道Pentax不需要保修卡也可以保修?
多谢多谢
n**b
发帖数: 13203
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 很为Pentax叹息。。。
以前还是大家争论的话题,现在已经完全变成无关的东西了。可悲可叹,都是Pentax的
管理层不稳定,开发和市场脱钩。
最近用老尼的手动头,感想很多,当初的头比现在的做工好多了。再想想Pentax,当年
的做工比尼康还好。现在Pentax已经成为行尸走肉,尼康还在摇尾乞怜。
唉,两个当年的经典啊。。。
y*********e
发帖数: 7269
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Pentax是文艺青年得到社会认可
风头正劲 热门微单与个性美女配对推荐(2)
宾得Q (资料 报价 图片 论坛) 复古亮骚最搭文艺女生
http://tech.sina.com.cn/digi/dc/2011-11-18/07526341352_2.shtml
联想到之前Pentax的文艺电影:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmG2PkOjzjo
还有本版著名文艺青年henryjing, huangquanlu
另外,之前本版文豪alicejiang,sanny和boston也都是Pentax家的。
看来Pentax=文艺基本得到海内外各界认可了。
y*********e
发帖数: 7269
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/2011/12/14/olympus1250EZ
时隔那么多年,电动变焦又变成香饽饽了?把Pentax注册的Power zoom改名EZpower
zoom了。也可能Pentax专利过期了?
跟俺当年对革命机的预测一样啊,一旦电子取景普遍,电动变焦肯定是趋势啊,回头可
以玩锁定主题,锁定构图比例等自动跟焦功能了
估计Pentax又要哭一场,跟当年镜头内置自动对焦又被请回来,结果成为主流一样。
h*********u
发帖数: 10868
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - PENTAX Full Frame !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a dream...!
PENTAX K-1:
• 24 Mpx Full Frame with Sensor-Shift Shake Reduction
• 7 f.p.s. (buffer with 30 photos)
• Shutter speed: 1/8000
• ISO 50-102400
• Video 1080P HD at - 24/25/30 fps. - manual controls
• X-Sync: 1/250 or 1/2000 with electronic shutter
• Storage: 2 x SDXC
• Focus system: Safox X+ with 23 points (with 9+ f:2.8)
• View Finder: Pentaprism 100%, Magnification: 0.8X
• LCD: 3.2"
Price: 2000$-2500$ (18002300
in addi... 阅读全帖
h*******g
发帖数: 10585
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Pentax要出全幅Mirrorless了。。。
1.先是黄帮主说的那个PeteFang,DPreview的成员说,Pentax哪个老总和他说近期要宣
布一款FF
2.然后日本某个杂志也收到同一个老总的消息,Pentax要发布FF,而且是Mirrorless,甚至Pentax在同时研究645D的mirrorless可能性。。。
3.再后来,Sony出来说,理光在向他们购买16M APS芯和24M的 FF芯,用于新的
mirrorless机器上
i****o
发帖数: 1183
G*****h
发帖数: 33134
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Pentax 2012-2013 lens roadmap
这 20-40mm zoom 怎么个用法。。。?
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/pentax-slr-lens-
DA 50mm replacement for the FA 50mm
DA ~20-200mm walkaround zoom
DA 550mm non-star telephoto prime
DA limited short zoom (~20-40mm)
DA wide zoom (~10-25mm)
DA* zoom (~20-80mm F2.8)
DA telephoto zoom (~100-300mm)
DA 1.4x SDM teleconverter
More Pentax news at: http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-lens-roadmap-for-2012-2013.html#ixzz1llISsK5R
m********l
发帖数: 6748
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Pentax K-5怎样

Pentax新加坡分公司官网出售的,paypal收$20的fee,最后总价$696. 机器是18-
135kit里面带的,所以说是unboxed。我收到后,确认是全新,只是原装盒子里面没有
镜头而已。详情可以参考Pentax Forum里面的相关讨论。 机器的链接如下:
http://www.pentaxwebstore.sg/pentax-k-r-120-colours/detail/53-f
y**********g
发帖数: 3071
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - pentax new rumors 没全幅
1. K-300
16MP old CMOS sensor used in K-01 and K-30, re-using the K-r body, i.e.,
penta-mirror at 0.85X and 96% coverage.
RH's Certainty Percentage Close to 100%!
2. K-5N
16MP new CMOS sensor technology, new image processor, APS-C of course, 100%
penta-prism finder at 0.92X, articulated screen, new 21-point SAFOX X AF
system (central 9-crossed, surrounding 12 points linear), improved
continuous tracking and zone focusing, 8 fps, improved video functions (with
manual control and continuous AF opt... 阅读全帖
R***a
发帖数: 41892
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - pentax访谈在dpr上
A lot of the feedback that we got about the Pentax Q was about its price.
Yes, I think we recognized that rather too late. Once the camera started
going on sale for $350-400, that's when we started to see sales, the new Q,
the Q10 is $599 with a zoom lens, and that's probably what the original
model should have been.
Let's talk about the Pentax Q. What has the reaction to the Q been like in
the market as a whole?
It's been interesting because a lot of Pentax's sales are online. And it's
difficul... 阅读全帖
m****k
发帖数: 340
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Thanks a lot.
I don't know too much about photography,buy them for my relative who asked
Pentax K-5 II body and len( Pentax smc FA 31mm F1.8 AL).
c*****l
发帖数: 1493
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 这么搭配的Pentax如何?
停产前感恩节甩卖的价格:
Pentax K-5 II Digital SLR Camera Body $599
Pentax K-5 II Digital SLR Camera with SMC DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AL WR Lens
Kit $699
Pentax K-5 II Digital SLR Camera with SMC DA 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF]
DC WR Lens Kit $799
y*********e
发帖数: 7269
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Pentax 645D 2014
Pentax进入中幅以来,就把PhaseOne,Mamiya,Leaf挤成PhaseOne一家了。炮厂接手的
话,最好另起炉灶做机身和镜头,凭目前基于Mamiya的系统的中幅,成本方面跟Pentax
比太没竞争力。数码压根没有什么换背需求,搞后背成本太高。最便宜的22MP后背都要
比Pentax 645D整机价格高。
J******a
发帖数: 46
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - Pentax K-5 IIs这个价格可以入吗?
大家帮我看看宾得的这款相机价格怎么样?多谢了
Pentax K-5 IIs 16.3 MP DSLR Body Only (Black)
Price: $666.99 & FREE Shipping.
亚马逊链接:http://www.amazon.com/Pentax-16-3-DSLR-Body-Black/dp/B009JPEISW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=1-1&keywords=pentax+k-5+IIs+body#customerReviews
y*********e
发帖数: 7269
38
来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 看来中幅市场要被Pentax吃光了
Zeiss和Mamiya都已经是被Pentax搞死了的
他们两家能干嘛?
Zeiss跟Pentax比镜头?
Mamiya还要拿他的挂尿壶中幅后背跟Pentax比机身?
y*********e
发帖数: 7269
39
来自主题: PhotoGear版 - 难怪Pentax设计的新镜头又粗又大
这是众所周知的难点啊
不过这次新的ABCII技术最大的突破就是红光了
而且ABC镀膜除了第一款DA*55之外,之后全部仅用于Pentax 645的专业镜头。
这次该镀膜下放到135镜头,拭目以待
之前Pentax曾经把DA Limited的镜头重新HD镀膜化复刻
我很好奇,Pentax会不会把最经典的FA Limited公主们全部ABCII镀膜化后复刻出品。
y*b
发帖数: 3190
40
"The Pentax FF DSLR camera details just got leaked. The camera will be
released in Spring 2016 and all the specs shown on the image make me think
that this is the A-mount FF camera I would like to get from Sony!
The Pentax FF has:
– Sony 36MP sensor
– 5 axis stabilization system (Sony tech?)
– Super resolution mode (Like the E-M5II)"
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/new-pentax-ff-camera-will-use-so
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
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Pentax k7 14.6mp DSLR body only for $764 - Amazon and B&H
Link:
http://www.amazon.com/Pentax-K-7-Digital-Shake-Reduction/dp/B0028N7442/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1276538962&sr=8-1
Been waiting for this to drop below $800 for a LONG time now...
similar sensor as the K20d, but faster, quieter and smaller body w/ a more
comfortable grip.
some highlights:
From the Manufacturer
The Pentax K-7 features a rugged, yet compact new body design, a new 14.6
megapixel CMOS sensor rebuilt from the g
w*******y
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来自主题: _DealGroup版 - 【$】Pentax 12x25 Binoculars for $10 FS
JR.com offers the Pentax 12x25 Binoculars, model no. 88047, for $9.99 with
free shipping. These binoculars feature a magnification of 12x.
Pentax 12x25 Binoculars:
http://www.jr.com/pentax/pe/PEN_88047/
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
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This is a good deal for those of you that don't want and/or need the 55-
300mm lens kit. If you definitely want that lens, then this is a good deal.
By the way, if you haven't heard this is a great entry to mid-level camera
that offers some serious bang for the buck including excellent low light
performance, 720p video and in-camera HDR processing. Check and compare at
dxomark.com:
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en/Camera-Sensor/Compare-senso
. DPReview:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pent... 阅读全帖
d*t
发帖数: 769
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Pentax 80-320mm SMCP F/4.5-5.6 Lens (Silver)
或者
Tamron AF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 Di LD for Pentax mount
不一定要全新,可以接受used.
我在LA,最好能local.
不知道发在这里合不合适,斑竹手下留情。
站内联系。谢谢。
r*****u
发帖数: 2013
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【 以下文字转载自 PhotoGear 讨论区 】
发信人: rockniu (tjj的专人护理), 信区: PhotoGear
标 题: Pentax K-x 12.4 MP DSLR w/ 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AL + 55-300mm f/4-5.8 ED Lenses $541
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 15 13:27:29 2010, 美东)
这个买一个自用如何
我现在用的pentax ist,没有反逗
手特别不稳,经常花了
j****y
发帖数: 335
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二手交易风险自负!请自行验证是否合法和一手卡!:
我想卖的物品:
Pentax *istDL SLR Camera (Body Only) Used
单张面值:
就是这个,used
http://www.amazon.com/Pentax-istDL-6-1MP-Digital-Camera/dp/B0009WWUIY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1267832592&sr=1-2
可接受价格(必须明码标价!):
250
物品新旧要求:
used, 95 成新, 功能齐全
邮寄方式要求:
your lable
买卖双方谁承担邮寄损失(Required if not code only):
付款方式说明:
boa
noncc paypal
其他补充说明:
广告的有效期:
物品来源(Required for All Cards!):
bought from amazon myself
我的联系方式:
mitbbs
Warranty期限:
能否证明是合法的一手卡?(Required for All Cards!):
d*t
发帖数: 769
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Pentax 80-320mm SMCP F/4.5-5.6 Lens (Silver)
或者
Tamron AF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 Di LD for Pentax mount
不一定要全新,可以接受used.
我在LA,最好能local.
不知道发在这里合不合适,斑竹手下留情。
站内联系。谢谢。
i***l
发帖数: 110
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【 以下文字转载自 PhotoGear 讨论区 】
发信人: iveil (iwill), 信区: PhotoGear
标 题: 请教怎样买Pentax k-x套机最划算
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jan 19 13:22:02 2010, 美东)
想买pentax的k-x/18-55 套机,不知道现在怎样能搞到好deal? 请高手指点。
h*********u
发帖数: 10868
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【 以下文字转载自 PhotoForum 讨论区 】
发信人: huangquanlu (文艺女青年), 信区: PhotoForum
标 题: DEAL!!!!! Pentax K-01 with 40mm lens for $299
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 21 09:43:18 2012, 美东)
http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-pentax-digital-camera?utm_mediu
d*****y
发帖数: 338
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来自主题: LosAngeles版 - 求pentax相机 维修的地方
请教各位一下,
我的pentax K-X 从取景器里看过去好像有模糊的一层东西,像是涂了一层蜡一样,不
知道是什么,但
是已经影响正常对焦。 把镜头取下来,用擦镜纸擦了一切可以触及的地方,仍然不行。
现在想找一个洛杉矶本地的维修店来帮忙看看。pentax客服说官方最近的一家在
Arizona。
不知道有没有路过的明白人给指点一下。或者提供一个本地维修的地方
十分感激。
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