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发帖数: 58873 | 1 CHICAGO — Eli Manning, quarterback of the only 0-6 team in football, which
means he is the quarterback of The Worst Team in Football until Peyton
Manning names his score against the Jaguars on Sunday, was fighting back the
tears after Bears 27, Giants 21.
His voice choked with emotion as he stood so lonely on a podium adjacent to
a shell-shocked visiting locker room, and he seemed closer to crying than he
was on the fourth-quarter interception that cost his team the victory it
had so desperately... 阅读全帖 |
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U*S
发帖数: 4914 | 2 根据你前面的论据，老老实实转pocket passer能成功才怪啊。 |
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U***5
发帖数: 2796 | 3 啥理论？
RG3天份在那摆着，他能做一个非常出色的pocket passer.
别人不一定适用。 |
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U*S
发帖数: 4914 | 4 "RG3 现在明显就是一个 1-read QB, 没open就开跑。"
这样的QB说转pocket passer就转了？转了之后三场估计就替补了。 |
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H**p
发帖数: 2504 | 5 这个有没有头脑怎么看得出来？他有打read option的头脑，有没有作好的pocket
passer的头脑就不知道了。教练的目的是赢球，当然怎么样能赢怎么打了。况且红皮又
没有能用的QB先顶着，让RG3可以坐两年板凳develop，这不能怪山那汉。 |
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发帖数: 2796 | 6 这篇专门分析他去年passing的表现的。
http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/2/5/3955720/robert-griffin-iii-in
Just how good was Robert Griffin III this season? Dan Ciarrocchi examines
this with the aid of Pro Football Focus' premium stats.
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No one can deny that Robert Griffin III had a rookie season for the ages.
Every time his offense took the field, the threat of a quick strike in the
form of a bomb or a gashing run took place.
And if you take away the eyeball test and look purely at... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2321 | 7 中了前三个，有木有？！
tnnd
HOPE SINKS
We all have them on our teams - that trendy sleeper who's just not getting
it done (Tavon Austin) or the proven real-game performer who's taking a step
back (Eli Manning).
Can't be too clingy in fantasy when you need to make way for emerging
players deserving of a shot or at least some bench speculation. Here are
some guys to consider dropping, with the usual caveat that you should factor
in your format (keepers? roster size?) and scoring system.
QB: Colin Kaepernick,... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3809 | 8 I think Foles will be a great NFL QB, arguably the second best pocket passer
in the 2012 draft class. |
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发帖数: 5200 | 11 http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/95935/sadder-brett-
"After all, it was Favre and Cook who promoted a public narrative about his
conditioning and current skills relative to the league's current crop of
passers. Like many of you, I read those quotes and wondered whether Favre
was setting the groundwork for the midseason rescue of a team.
As it turns out, he appears simply to have been seeking affirmation that he
could play while having no desire to actually do so, a twisted path that
f... 阅读全帖 |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 16 肉末啊？ 时间记不住了 肉末俩TD 士大夫只有一个rush TD？ 我怎么记得还有个pass |
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l*******z
发帖数: 4276 | 17 Not this game. Career wise
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t******3
发帖数: 4053 | 19 出球慢有两个原因：
一是PM明显不在状态，不能快速读出defense，大白菜有时追求数据不愿被INT，持球犹
豫，反而被hit或sack。
二是对手逐渐找到了对付Denver offense的办法-----首先在line scrimmage阻挡
Denver的WR，TE跑route，使得WR/TE跑不到位，导致PM无法快速出手。
PM不能准确快速出手，Denver进攻就有大问题-----PM是个complete pocket passer，
没有半点mobility，无法buy extra time。而且，持球时间长，容易被hit ----- this
is what we can't afford.
看看下半场PM能否找回点状态。 |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 20 联盟最好的passer之一 对联盟最差的二线 呵呵 |
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l*******z
发帖数: 4276 | 21 我觉得和roughing the passer类似 |
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m********e
发帖数: 5088 | 22 passer roughness
personal foul
off side
12 man on the field
illegal formation
比较critical的passing interference
德老比赛防守每次3 and out的时候，总会有脑残出来贡献以上小黄旗 |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 23 你忘了 false start
但是passer roughness有时也是战术安排 尤其欺负年轻qb
PI这事吧 见仁见智 有些时候比较脑残 有些时候也是不得以为之
我总觉得干扰接球了才应该判 互相摸摸索索就算了
不过尺度这事很难掌握。。。 |
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l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 24 我不大喜欢passer rating.一两个play，垃圾时间的数据的影响太大。不过看看他的
QBR也是非常强啊。这个不得不服。超过白菜真的不能说不可能。 |
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b*****n
发帖数: 2333 | 25 这个标准的roughing passer 哪里偏了？ |
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m********e
发帖数: 5088 | 26 他持球时间很长，基本是长考，所以要么completion,要么sack。这是在UH的spread
offense养成的坏习惯。
所以passer rating很高
但是我仔细看过录像，他有三个优点：
1,pocket presence感觉很好
2，传球基本功很扎实
3，multi-read，这点挺让人感动的 |
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发帖数: 2943 | 27 这个 PI 算不上， 至少给个 Holding. 5 yards, automatical first down.
拍子 RP 用完了, 想当年拍子主场， 得了多少 PI 和 Rough passer。 |
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发帖数: 11814 | 29 看看ESPN 专栏记者昨天怎么说的，我的意思是随着RW的成熟，大家对他的期望应该不
仅仅是GAME MANAGER了。当然这个评价对于二年级生来说已经很高了，但我个人还是看
好他在磨砺几年会超过A铁匠。（A铁匠应该是GAME MANAGER QB的典型代表人物吧？）
ESPN.com columnist Jeffri Chadiha no longer considers Russell Wilson a game
manager, the term he used to describe Seattle's quarterback during a
conversation with 710 ESPN Seattle's "Brock and Danny" back in June.
While he's seen more improvement from Wilson than the other NFL's other star
quarterbacks who are in their second seasons as starters, Chadiha hasn't
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G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 32 但是威神pass的总数不多，所以还是Brees比较牛。 |
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G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 34 CK硬件还是在那。49其实打得很稳健，该赢的比赛都痛快的赢了。输得的比赛也都比较
close。坐等WR回归。 |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 35 整这数据的人GRE逻辑和词汇阅读部分加起来能得50分不？ |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 36 我主要是accuracy那条没看懂 caught/dropped啥意思？ |
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l*******z
发帖数: 4276 | 38 就是说caught or dropped都算accurate |
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l*******z
发帖数: 4276 | 39 不错了。我记得前段时间看到一个统计，也是deep pass accuracy的。然后就有一个绿
碗球迷上来说RW的算多了，不应该算Fail Mary.然后就是几十楼的大论战这个该不该算
，又重复当年的debate.最后有个明眼人来了一句按照这个统计的规矩，这个压根就没
算，鸦雀无声 |
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p**********g
发帖数: 9385 | 43 这个不是personal foul，roughing the passer？ |
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H**p
发帖数: 2504 | 44 这个应该是说passer rating吧？可以算出来。
QBR没法算，据说和场上比分形势都有关系，所以我觉得这个不可能是QBR。 |
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发帖数: 5101 | 45 Unforunately I knew it. I also knew his pct and passer rating are worse than
rg3, well, based on yahoo's stats. His last season's numbers were even
worse. As bad as rg3 played this year, his passing numbers are still better
than luck.:)) rg3 has become a punching bag of national media, when is
luck's turn?;) |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 47 你先说的判罚有问题
我对难民别的都觉得不错 但是rush passer这事 是吧 呵呵
我不讨论裁判 |
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U***5
发帖数: 2796 | 48 转折点是那个rough the passer call. |
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s*****o
发帖数: 22187 | 49 我觉着昨天狮子输球有自己的问题，但是不能掩盖裁判瞎吹，一个苏的holding，还一
个roughing的passer，都莫名其妙啊。还好尼克佛扔了个int。后面星星悬了，下周估
计龙哥就踩着七彩云霞来虐我们了。。。 |
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b******d
发帖数: 9694 | 50 离谱了两次， 当时我们还是14-6领先的时候， 当时在电女的45码处2nd and 10， 电
女传球不成功的那个Roughing the passer简直是莫须有，之后电女又得了TD， 然后2
分的时候又吹了个莫须有的苏抓人犯规， 然后电女把比狠拉平。 自此之后狮子全面崩
溃。。。 |
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