c*m
发帖数: 836 | 1 我觉得这种情况下带不带枪都没啥用。既然已经被枪指着了，有句谚语叫做 You can't
outdraw a drawn gun。我觉得带枪在两种情况下最有用，第一，对方没枪，但是想伤
害你，比如有两三个小年轻带刀。第二，对方有枪，而且就是想伤害你，这时，你拔枪
还击，可以伤害对方，也可能干扰他对你的伤害。
最没用的情况就是对方有枪，他想抢劫你。这个时候你拔枪，很可能把损失20块的事情
变成送命。有人说，有的毛贼抢完了还给一枪，其实这个比例是非常非常低的。各大城
市，每年都有几万起的armed robbery，但是凶杀案总共才几百起。而这几百起凶杀案
里面，绝大多数也跟抢劫也没啥关系。
这么算来，抢完给你一枪的几率不到千分之一。所以这种时候，乖乖给钱比拔枪反抗安
全。
当然，我是支持随身带枪的，毕竟多个选择。至于是不是遇到抢劫就拔枪，那就是另一
回事了。
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 2 as long as you make the implied odds less than 1:8, you are a huge favorate
in the long run. low pairs need at least 1:8 implied odds
to call to break even (actually they need something higher, cause
their trip may run into your top trips).
Against two rags, even if they hit two pairs, you
still have a lot of odds to outdraw them.
A
test
bets,
folded |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 3 AA:GOOG
910 suited: YHOO
Took a gamble and almost all in with YHOO before earning, looks like it will
outdraw GOOG tomorrow even it has been underdog for years. |
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g********r
发帖数: 1458 | 4 cash game上会碰到很多不同的人，这次算是见了世面。有人幽默大度，我最喜欢和这
种人一桌，即使我输掉，也会shake hands, 说good game。有人沉默不言，小费永远一
块（这种往往反而是高手，我见到的高手小费都给一块，中年白人略胖，好像是
sterotype，呵呵)有很多年轻人（20多岁），方差很大，但一般比较aggressive，有些
很loose,can't fold relatively big hand,有些牌技很好。有些international, 我同
桌的有英国的，瑞典的，和南美的，印度的，因人而异，但感觉南美的很喜欢trap,
slow play big hand，我遇到的一个人，见面就称你brother，但是特别阴，嘴上说要
friendly，但是决不手软，我被他outdraw了几次，river beat 了几回，但没什么办法
。当然还有drunk people和不知所以的新手（绝非冒犯女同胞，我见到的同桌的女玩家
里，很多是这种）
好了，说说几个感受：
1。很多人straddle. 就是在bb后面一个人double blind bet，要提高pot |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 5 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 我回来看看 另外，这个draw多次并非独立概率事件，对吧？比如落后方只有两个outs，如果碰巧
draw到一个，那么剩下的几次能outdraw的概率几乎降了1倍，直觉上感觉落后方draw的
次数越多越不利，不过如果只是draw几次，差别应该不是很大。 |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 6 Trap with a medium hand is asking for trouble. In this case, the flop is
already great for you. What if the flop has A J x, would you call down 3
streets? or K 5 3?
Once I trap with AA, the guy in LP who 3 bet me with 14% 3 bet percentage
and very high aggression. I just smooth called his preflop 3 bet raise, flop
, turn and river bet. End up losing my whole stack when his 10 2 off suit made
two pairs on the turn.
If you decide to trap, you just have to take the risk of being outdraw. If
you th |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 7 Actually the pot is still small on the turn ($10 before the allin),
So I guess you can fold even if any set is in his range.
If the turn allin comes after bet and raise, you might have to call
because you still have 10 outs to outdraw him. The only problem is
his range probably further narrows down to straight only. So need
to look at the then pot size to decide. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 8 I'm not saying fold str8 flush draw, but I don't get excited about it. The
best outs are straight, then flush cards.
If I am holding a baby (mid) str8 flush draw, and turn completes flush, I
get even less excited. 33% you take down the small/middle pot right here, 10
% you run into a bigger flush, and 10% someone hangs around and has a good
chance to outdraw you..
If raising war happens on flop, usually the str8 flush draw guy is an
underdog, or coin flip at the best, although it looks like a mo... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 9 Preflop he open up 2x from MP and I called.
From his c-betting size, my gut feeling is that he has a strong hand like
overpair and is afraid I have a spade to outdraw him. So he is unlikely to
fold on flop, but if a spade comes on turn, he may give up. If i knew he had
a set, I prob would not raise, but if he had something like KK QQ, I had 15
outs. The question is that given this information, if fold equity is slim,
would you push to gamble with 55-58% winning chance and you know if you lose
, ... 阅读全帖 |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 10 hand 6不久被阿姨flop了nut strait? preflop size 真不好控制，有时候一个人都没
有，一跟进来一堆都进来了。我看到有人用78o去靠了$40 all in，只因为前面有一个
人跟了，“pot odds”is right。
hand 8 有机会也应该 turn shove, 但其他好像没有特别合适的？stack一直比较深
有谁讨论下flop了top set的玩法么？下多了怕赶走了，少了又被outdraw。。。
我还真遇到过flop的SF，
一个tournament,我MP raise with AX。all fold，越南哥们BB想了想跟了，check in
the dark。
flop 什么5h7h8h之类。hero check。
turn A，越南check,hero bet,越南呼吸加速，浑身颤抖，min-reraise，我立马扔了。
丫的扔出来6h9h。talking about calling with any cards。
当然大部分时候是不应该考虑3 card SF的，但那晚太邪门，没有absolute nuts老怕撞上核桃。 |
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G********r
发帖数: 666 | 11 Thanks. :) Yes, looking back, shoving the turn was the only way to avoid
the LP fish to outdraw me. I would have done it again though, and let him
draw for his two-outer on the river.
to
announced |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 12 苦什么啊，周末输了快两千的飘过。。。
lost a big pot with set vs set and got outdraw by 2 outer twice....
真是朱门酒肉臭，路有冻死鬼啊。老大是不是发点包子安慰一下穷人阿。。 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 13 苦什么啊，周末输了快两千的飘过。。。
lost a big pot with set vs set and got outdraw by 2 outer twice....
真是朱门酒肉臭，路有冻死鬼啊。老大是不是发点包子安慰一下穷人阿。。 |
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p*****l
发帖数: 399 | 14 you are still very lucky. Your opponent may feel more upset after being
outdrawed at the river. |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 15 as long as you make the implied odds less than 1:8, you are a huge favorate
in the long run. low pairs need at least 1:8 implied odds
to call to break even (actually they need something higher, cause
their trip may run into your top trips).
Against two rags, even if they hit two pairs, you
still have a lot of odds to outdraw them.
A
test
bets,
folded |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 16 AA:GOOG
910 suited: YHOO
Took a gamble and almost all in with YHOO before earning, looks like it will
outdraw GOOG tomorrow even it has been underdog for years. |
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