r**********e
发帖数: 2821 | 1 NY times这次牛鼻大法了，下次博士屯 gloabe也来个牛鼻的内幕回应一下，最好v队长
再把鸡队长咬
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a*****i
发帖数: 4391 | 3
别傻了，Globe belongs to NYT. |
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发帖数: 2821 | 4 NYT也不是属于你们养鸡队的，就是疏于鸡队，能catch eye也会照爆不误，赚钱就行了，管你丫三五
六呢，资本家老板都这德性的。 |
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b*****u
发帖数: 1978 | 5
You are so right, Miss Sour Grape.
Kevin Millar can not possibly draw that tide-turning walk in ALCS game 4,
inning 9, bottom; it should not count.
Bill Mueller can not possibly hit that tsunami-generating RBI in ALCS game 4
, inning 9, bottom; it should not count.
Mark Bellhorn can not possibly hit that game-winning homer in ALCS game 6;
it should not count.
Bronson Arroyo can not possibly tag ARod in ALCS game 6; it should count as
the greatest base running of all time.
Johnny Damon can not p |
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a*****i
发帖数: 4391 | 6 A-Rod was hung out to dry and crucified as the first of the 104. Well since
no one LIKES A-Rod everyone in the media were split as to whether the other
103 should be released. Damn right they should. Not fair for 1 person, no
matter how much he is disliked get all the slings and arrows while the other
103 got to breathe a sigh of relief. |
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B*****t
发帖数: 3012 | 8 其实Yankees和Redsox也只是MLB这个公司的俩支部而已。
大家装作很苦大仇深的样子好骗球迷们的钱。都是他喵的business |
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s**e
发帖数: 1834 | 9 Dave Roberts should be on the list as well.
4
as
happens |
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m*m
发帖数: 260 | 10 does it make any difference?
现在谁都甭装逼。叫得大声的hypocrite被人揭穿，就是现世报。 |
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m*m
发帖数: 260 | 11 also, steroids/HGH don't necessarily improve everybody. If not for THE
SB nobody gives him a damn. |
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B****s
发帖数: 796 | 13 要说焕发第二春，没人比县令焕的猛。Career 10-15 win NL pitcher until the age
of 35. Then the second spring came right in the middle of PED explosion. Put
up more wins in the last few seasons than his first 15 seasons combined.
Show me a better "second spring" in the history of baseball other than Bonds
and Clemens. |
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B*****t
发帖数: 3012 | 14 你这个论据用的不对。wins不是一个衡量投手水平的数据。
age
Put
Bonds |
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B****s
发帖数: 796 | 15 Not the only stats, for sure. But the most important one. All you need to do
is to compare his career with other pitchers, same era of his or otherwise. |
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B*****t
发帖数: 3012 | 16 衡量一个投手的实际水平，wins应该算是属于最不important ones了。
衡量先发投手，应该用IP，ERA+，WHIP，K/BB这些来说明。
你的论点或许有一定道理，但是用wins作为论据，整个论断就没什么意义了。大家都知
道90年代的Phillies是大烂队，在那个队一年拿15个win都算是很猛了。
do
otherwise. |
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m*m
发帖数: 260 | 17 He's smart to retire before his is exposed, and he could continue to big
-mouth like hypocrites.
age
Put
Bonds |
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B****s
发帖数: 796 | 18 For a 20-year career, number of wins is a fair way to value a pitcher. 15
wins per year in any team would be a good number. I don't deny he had always
been a good pitcher. But not the one he had shown at the end of his career. |
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a***n
发帖数: 5520 | 19 long term wins还是很能说明问题的 |
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B*****t
发帖数: 3012 | 20 你混淆了两个概念：成就和能力。
win基本上是代表着一个投手的成就，和能力的相关度相对较低。
要衡量一个投手的能力，应该用和能力相关度高的数据来讨论。
你的论断显然是在讨论Schilling的能力在加入响尾蛇后有所提高，这个用wins来说事
就没什么意义了。
always
career. |
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B*****t
发帖数: 3012 | 21 去查一查Jamie Moyer的career stats。。。
do
otherwise. |
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B****s
发帖数: 796 | 22 Even if you are into the numbers, you can still find the ability of a
pitcher, reflected more directly by ERA, IP etc., is almost always
correlated to the wins. When the number of wins is used to evaluate a
pitcher, it's never far off. If you look at Jamie Moyer's numbers, the years
when he got more wins, almost all (not all, of course) are the ones he had
lower ERA. Although in his case, pitching style certainly played a more important
role in his longevity. |
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r**********e
发帖数: 2821 | 23 现在的情况是，05年以前谁嗑药都不奇怪，没被抓到就是没嗑。。。
以前那70个homer都是人的数据马？md不嗑药怎么可能 |
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发帖数: 2821 | 24 not surprising,大帕皮05年轰了50个homer，之后急转直下。
Manny和Arod这种天赋的人嗑药确实是可惜了。
大西亚和积压比，体型都很猛,看着就令人怀疑。
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m*m
发帖数: 260 | 25 agree.
But he should at least learn from Ortiz which is never say never. |
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p**s
发帖数: 788 | 26 Casey Kotchman used to be Angels' No 1 prospect. Could be another Ortiz. |
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发帖数: 2821 | 27 Rank Player (age) On-Base Plus Slugging Bats
1. Albert Pujols (29) 1.0553 R
2. Manny Ramirez (37) 1.0050 R
3. Todd Helton (35) .9958 L
4. Lance Berkman (33) .9706 B
5. Alex Rodriguez (33) .9649 R
6. Jim Thome (38) .9640 L
7. Vladimir Guerrero (34) .9573 R
8. Chipper Jones (37) .9521 B
9. Jason Giambi (38) .9321 L
10. Matt Holliday (29) .9310 R
11. Carlos Delgado (37) .9293 L
12. Miguel Cabrera (26) .9243 R
13. David Ortiz (33) .9221 L
14. Travis Hafner (32) .9214 L
15. Mark Teixeira (29) .9199 B |
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s****r
发帖数: 5546 | 28 与其在外场被折腾，不如上Reddick，反正Lowell和Ortiz也都是0/x的打击水平 |
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a*****i
发帖数: 4391 | 30 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
It is hilarious!!! |
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a*****i
发帖数: 4391 | 31 love the part where prince fielder emailed CC and CC forwarded his email
about red lobster's all-u-can-eat shrimp... |
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a***n
发帖数: 5520 | 32 arod-Madonna's nake pictures.... |
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m*r
发帖数: 37612 | 33 amazon order confirmation or order update doesn't look like that... |
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a*****i
发帖数: 4391 | 34
It is supposed to be funny! |
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w*****r
发帖数: 405 | 35 That's the most hilarious part |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 37 Some Cards fans made up this list. Somebody innocent were
put there in place of Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds.
1.Nomar Garciaparra
2.Manny Ramirez
3.Johnny Damon
4.Trot Nixon
5.David Ortiz
6.Shea Hillenbrand
7.Derek Lowe
8.Pedro Martinez
9.Brian Roberts
10.Jay Gibbons
11.Melvin Mora
12.Jerry Hairston
13.Jason Giambi
14.Alfonso Soriano
15.Raul Mondesi
16. Aaron Boone
17.Andy Pettitte
18.Jose Contreras
19.Roger Clemens
20.Carlos Delgado
21.Vernon Wells
22.Frank Catalanotto
23.Kenny Rogers
24.Magglio O |
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x**h
发帖数: 1564 | 38 旧闻了。炒个冷饭。
C Joe Mauer
1B Albert Pujols
2B Jeff Kent
SS Derek Jeter
3B Alex Rodriguez
OF Barry Bonds
OF Ichiro Suzuki
OF Manny Ramirez
DH David Ortiz
SP Randy Johnson
RP Mariano Rivera
Manager of the decade: Joe Torre, Dodgers/Yankees
Team of the decade: Red Sox
Executive of the decade: Theo Epstein, Red Sox
Performance of the decade: White Sox pitcher Mark Buehrle's perfect game
against the Rays on July 23, 2009. Buehrle also threw a no-hitter on April
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c********x
发帖数: 232 | 39 这个阵容有些争议。比方说catcher。只算总打击数据，Posada很不错。应该是最好的。
Ortiz那个可有可无的DH，如果把1B/DH也算上的话，Thome的数据只会比他好。
说起来，我觉得只有Pujols, ARod, Bonds，Ichiro和Rivera是绝对的人选。其他的都有
差不多的人。 |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 40 大G，Ortiz不用象Posada一样损膝盖啊。
我觉得你们洋基的球迷要求太高了。在费城拿了两场，后面两场都是主场。一个是MLB历
史上季后赛最疯狂的首发投手，一个是你们的王牌投手，赢下来时肯定的……也得娱乐
一下大众么！
不知道洋基现在会不会在看球。//send me a message if you see this.
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 41 明年到期，可以option到11年。
以前说one of the best,从这个赛季开始基本是公认的，媒体都是这么说，有很大原因
就是arod服药爆出来加上受伤，ortiz彻底不行了，加上ryan howard,pinrce fielder
都没有average，防守很一般。我感觉mlb就是这么定调的，好搞媒体炒作。
很难说，他的年龄一直被质疑，而且谁知道他吃过药没有。 |
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 42 马丁内斯应该是第一个dh有可能进名人堂的吧，会有意思，很多baseball purists认为
dh再好也不应该进入名人堂，他的结果对于ortiz等人日后有指导作用。 |
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B*****t
发帖数: 3012 | 43 Paul Molitor already in HOF.
David Ortiz no shot at all.. |
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 44 两年前人们还说ortiz可能进名人堂，现在全部都黑他了，呵呵，状态下滑的太快了。 |
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G******f
发帖数: 16223 | 45 这个season 27个at bat，14个strikeout。。。晕 |
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G******f
发帖数: 16223 | 49 40 degree and raining... |
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