p****p
发帖数: 3360 | 1 I'm not trying to argue with anybody. So you take it easy too, buddy.
A lot of people like a team because they live in the team's city/area and
hate a team because of a player in a team. And Garnett is not my guy.
You don't have to hint that I follow the Rockets because of Yao. I love Yao
Ming. But I'm old enough to have watched quite some of Olajuwon's games.
And I still watch Rockets even Yao's now out for the season or maybe for his
career. Sorry if I've disappointed you. |
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l********y
发帖数: 1327 | 2 贵庚哪?我也old enough看olajuwon了,我甚至old enough看bird了不开玩笑
Yao
his |
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H**U
发帖数: 1814 | 3 不对呀，我怎马查到的是这个？
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/g_career.html
1. Robert Parish* 1611
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 1560
3. John Stockton* 1504
4. Karl Malone* 1476
5. Kevin Willis 1424
6. Reggie Miller 1389
7. Clifford Robinson 1380
8. Gary Payton 1335
9. Moses Malone* 1329
10. Buck Williams 1307
11. Elvin Hayes* 1303
12. Mark Jackson 1296
13. Sam Perkins 1286
14. Charles Oakley 1282
15. A.C. Green 127... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5448 | 4 PG: Cousy,O, Magic, Nash, Rose
SG: MJ, Ai, Kobe
SF: J, Bird, LBJ
PF: Pettit, McAdoo, Malone, Barkley, TD, KG, Dirk
C: Russell, Chamberlain, Unseld, Reed, Alcindor, Jabbar, Cowens, Walton,
Malone, Olajuwon, Robinson, Shaq |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 5 恩。这个总结不错。其实TD应该去中锋那儿。
中锋的作用一目了然阿。
PG: Cousy,O, Magic, Nash, Rose
SG: MJ, Ai, Kobe
SF: Bird, LBJ
PF: Pettit, McAdoo, Malone, Barkley, TD, KG, Dirk
C: Russell, Chamberlain, Unseld, Reed, Alcindor, Jabbar, Cowens, Walton,
Erving, Malone, Olajuwon, Robinson, Shaq |
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 6 当年尼克斯实力挺强的啊，怎么就被一个只有Olajuwon的球队给灭了？ |
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o*******6
发帖数: 6113 | 7 要我排前10的话，Jordan, Russel, Chamberlain, Magic, Bird, Jabbar, Duncan,
West, O'Neal, Mikan, Bryant（第11），Malone, Olajuwon, Baylor, Stockton,
Havrecek, Garnett, Cousey, Ewing，Baylor。
说Kobe排不进前10应该也是说得通的。当然Kobe还没有退役，还有机会提升一下自己的
地位。 |
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o**4
发帖数: 35028 | 8 沙奎尔·奥尼尔1972年3月6日出生
哈基姆·奥拉朱旺（Hakeem Abdul Olajuwon 1963年1月21日
姚明：1980年，
奥尼尔跟他们差了都快10岁了，中锋的巅峰期才几年？ |
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l****8
发帖数: 1843 | 11 这是另一个算法
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.htm
Rank Player HoF Prob
1. Bill Russell* 1.0000
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 1.0000
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 1.0000
4. Michael Jordan* 1.0000
5. John Havlicek* 1.0000
6. Bob Cousy* 1.0000
7. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
8. Magic Johnson* 1.0000
9. Shaquille O'Neal 1.0000
10. Larry Bird* 1.0000
11. Jerry West* 1.0000
12. George Mikan* 1.0000
13. Bob Pettit* 1.0000
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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 12 Jabar, Chamberlin, Rusell, Olajuwon and Shaq are top 5
果， |
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k****a
发帖数: 7077 | 13 一看你们这些80后根本不知道1984年选秀的事情。
Akeem Olajuwon， 帮主， Charles Barkley， John Stockton，
。。。
。。。
。。。
论历史地位，96年的敢比？ |
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k****a
发帖数: 7077 | 14 All time steals：
1 John Stockton 3,265
2 Michael Jordan 2,514
3 JASON KIDD 2,477
4 Gary Payton 2,445
5 Maurice Cheeks 2,310
6 Scottie Pippen 2,307
7 Clyde Drexler 2,207
8 Hakeem Olajuwon 2,162
9 Alvin Robertson 2,112
10 Karl Malone 2,085
11 Mookie Blaylock 2,075
12 Allen Iverson 1,983
13 Derek Harper 1,957
14 Isiah Thomas 1,861
15 Magic Johnson 1,724
16 Ron Harper 1,716
17 F... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 18578 | 15 Brandon Knight绝对成为不了Rose,乔丹当年也是第三号签呀，而且那年可是一个超大
年,那年的牛人：
Akeem Olajuwon
Michael Jordan
Charles Barkley
Alvin Robertson
Kevin Willis
Otis Thorpe
John Stockton
这些人哪个拿到今年来都是稳前三的签，在一个小小年的选秀里面只能排第8，还说成
为Rose第二，你当职业球探总经理都是呆子？ |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 16 全场的话shaq防技术那么细尤其是手上活极好脚步跟quickness都有优势的olajuwon
也麻烦啊
真一打一我觉得是互爆的情况. |
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 17 新球迷层出不穷呀
Olajuwon ended his career in the top ten all-time in blocks, scoring, reboun
ding, and steals. He is the only player in NBA history to retire in the top
ten for all four categories (he is now 11th all-time in rebounding). |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 18 94,95MJ一样不在,马龙/斯托克顿组合一样在,为什么把握住机会的就是olajuwon呢? |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 19 用不用是一码事,但shaq脚下的技术,我看不到哪个中锋,能比他"强老鼻子",
即便olajuwon也说不上. |
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发帖数: 17 | 20 http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/fran_blinebury/02/16/yao-
"I know that Jeremy was born in California and we both had very different
backgrounds growing up," Yao said. "But I feel that we are both Chinese and
I am happy that a guard like him could come out of nowhere and make this big
effect on the NBA. I hope it is the next step for us."
Yao chuckles at some of the stories that have circulated on the Internet
saying that he has been a mentor to Lin.
"Please, don't let anyone think that Yao... 阅读全帖 |
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t*n
发帖数: 14458 | 21 主席说话就是有水平
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/fran_blinebury/02/16/yao-
"I know that Jeremy was born in California and we both had very different
backgrounds growing up," Yao said. "But I feel that we are both Chinese and
I am happy that a guard like him could come out of nowhere and make this big
effect on the NBA. I hope it is the next step for us."
Yao chuckles at some of the stories that have circulated on the Internet
saying that he has been a mentor to Lin.
"Please, don't let anyone thi... 阅读全帖 |
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h**********g
发帖数: 3962 | 22 拥有出色的身体素质，又以王（KING）自冠。但没有自己带队拿冠军。
在著名的 DECISION 之后，又上演了 Not One, ..., Not Seven.
Bill Russell 在波士顿拿了11个冠军。
Michael Jordan 在芝加哥拿了6个冠军（两个三连冠）。
Magic Johnson 在湖人拿了五个冠军。
Kobe Bryant 在湖人拿了五个冠军（三连冠+二连冠）。
Tim Duncan 在马刺拿了四个冠军。
Larry Bird 在波士顿拿了三个冠军。
Shaquille O'Neal 转会到湖人后拿了三个冠军。在热队又加了一个。
Hakeem Olajuwon 在休斯顿连得两次冠军。94年险胜纽约，95年横扫魔术。
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar， 6枚戒指，总得分冠军。
Wilt Chamberlain，2枚戒指，单场100分。
Robert Horry 有7个冠军，作为 role player，每一个戒指他都有不凡的贡献。
可以在篮球界称王的人，还是有的。 |
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p********y
发帖数: 224 | 23 MJ makes teammates better, everybody played the best ball of their life w/
MJ. Look what Pippen has done without MJ, even with Clyde, Olajuwon, and
Barkley, Nothing!!!
Kobe needs better teammates i.e. Shaq. |
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e*******e
发帖数: 9616 | 24 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar – "Cap"[1]
Ray Allen – "Ray Ray",[2] "Jesus Shuttlesworth"[3] (after his character
in the movie He Got Game),[3]
Rafer Alston – "Skip To My Lou"[4]
Chris Andersen – "Birdman"[5]
Greg Anderson – "Cadillac"[6][7]
Carmelo Anthony – "Melo"[8]
Nate Archibald – "Tiny"[6][9]
Gilbert Arenas – ""Agent Zero", "The Hibachi"[10][11]
Trevor Ariza – "Cobra"[12]
Paul Arizin – "Pitchin' Paul"[9]
Ron Artest – "Metta World Peace" "Ron Ron"[13]
St... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****s
发帖数: 5610 | 25 Kidd跟Jordan，Kobe能比吗？也没自己拿过冠军。
olajuwon年轻时候也被说自己投，不传球，后来大了，开始学double team后的传球，
可是没有年轻时候的浪投，能拿2个冠军吗？
球星就是要有定海神针的作用，其他队员都看着你那，就是要建立关键时候敢投敢打的
信心。 |
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a****t
发帖数: 7049 | 26 篮球两个队来回打，掌球次数就差不多，所以比的必然就是效率，谁能在每次掌球中平
均得分多谁就有更高的赢率。
不幸的是体育数据界仍处在中世纪，一堆没有意义的垃圾数据的利用（如每场得分之类
）使得“刷分”现象得以生存。没办法，谁让体育界不用大量数据做科学的贝页斯估算
呢。目前看来，最靠谱的只有一个PER（player efficiency rating），虽然也是ad
hoc的垃圾数据，也有不尽人意之处，但至少是个效率数据吧。
1. 下面这页给出了NBA史上球员的生涯效率。看看一流的是谁，再看看melo在哪里。只
能说他从来就不是tops一个级别的。
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html
Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.23
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberla... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3962 | 28 David Robinson, 1994
Hakeem Olajuwon, 1990,
Alvin Robertson, 1986
Nate Thurmond, 1974 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 30 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
goodbug (好虫) 于 (Thu Jan 12 02:21:12 2012, 美东) 提到:
这几招小前用起来压力不大，特别是像热这样，两个内线都可以拉出来
投篮的。
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pandamalone (0000~史前圣灵猫熊) 于 (Thu Jan 12 02:21:31 2012, 美东) 提到:
shaq是真心会做killer crossover啊
他96(如果我没记错)全明星热身时背打mj的那串动作
我看lebron都不一定能他做到那个水准
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pandamalone (0000~史前圣灵猫熊) 于 (Thu Jan 12 02:23:19 2012, 美东) 提到:
这几招对于shaq这样身高体重相对对方内线有优势的人来说够用
但你一个SF不可能落到那么深的位置背打的
而如果没有那么深的话,小勾手或者高手打板的命中率... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****g
发帖数: 12253 | 31 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
guvest (我爱你老婆Anna) 于 (Sat Mar 3 13:11:53 2012, 美东) 提到:
去年总决赛,Lbj不是最后时刻传给一个查莫斯open shot,
赢了.还有一场给了Bosh一个open shot.
这哥们高中和NBA最开始都是打PG的.说人家传球,不自己射,
是不公道的.
昨天最后传出来haslem open shot的机会.已经很不错了.
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Drake (六脉神剑) 于 (Sat Mar 3 13:17:15 2012, 美东) 提到:
没赢
被司机最后绝杀了
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siriusab (aaaa) 于 (Sat Mar 3 13:26:15 2012, 美东) 提到:
都是事后诸葛吧。
传了进了，就是团队力量
传了没进，就是不敢担责任
自己投进，最后一刻拯救球队
自投没进，关键时刻掉链子
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lg
发帖数: 2062 | 32 从乔丹开始记的，前10名
年份／队／总场数／球员／PER
1991 Bulls 17 Jordan 32
2000 Lakers 23 Oneal 30.5
2012 Heat 23 Lebron 30.3
1993 Bulls 19 Jordan 30.1
2001 Lakers 17 Oneal 28.7
2003 Spurs 24 Duncan 28.4
2002 Lakers 19 Oneal 28.3
1998 Bulls 21 Jordan 28.1
1994 Rockets 23 Olajuwon 27.7
2007 Spurs 20 Duncan 27.4 |
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d*w
发帖数: 546 | 33 Riley Ready To Move Past Title
Jun 25, 2012 10:36 AM EDT
Pat Riley wants his players to quickly forget about winning the NBA
championship.
“We’ve got a championship in our back pocket,” Riley said. “Just one.
One of the things you don’t want to do after it is in your back pocket, you
don’t want to start reminding everyone how you did it. That is the start
of the team on the demise. I remember when we won in 1987, best year we ever
had with the Lakers, Mychal Thompson was our Shane Battier. We wo... 阅读全帖 |
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d*w
发帖数: 546 | 34 Jared Zwerling: Amare to work with Hakeem Olajuwon (ESPN New York exclusive)
-- http://espn.go.com/blog/n… #Knicks #AmareStoudemire |
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s******r
发帖数: 21961 | 35 你还不知道当年有人叫 Thomas, Dumars, Olajuwon，rodman, mutombo 吧 |
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S*********g
发帖数: 24893 | 36 2001年，火箭将年事已高的Hakeem Olajuwon交易至了猛龙，只留下Francis和Mobley小
鬼当家，带领一群新秀和板凳打拼。近二十年来第一次“无梦”的火箭梦游般地给出了
28-54的令人失望的常规赛答卷，平了火箭迁址休斯顿以来的第二差战绩。当然，这也
意味着近二十年来，火箭又有了再次抽状元的机会。他们选择的又是一个大个子——来
自中国的巨人中锋——姚明。 |
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o**4
发帖数: 35028 | 37 从hupu上看到一个贴子，作者开发了一种算法，将球星每场比赛的“战斗力”进行了计
算和排名，不是历史地位排名，而是一场比赛的即战力排名。似乎有点意思。作为一家
之言，可以参考看看
http://bbs.hupu.com/4002913.html
基本设定是：算一个球员前1000场平均成绩（不够1000场的算目前场次）；对一些特殊
类型球员场次特殊处理；对73年以前的stl和blk进行假设；对上古时代篮板数打折处理
其余设定和说明可看原帖。
基本计算方法：
1.1000场平均得分乘以1。
2.1000场平均助攻加权乘以2.25。(1次成功助攻能帮助球队得分平均是2.25分)
3.1000场平均篮板加权乘以1.78。（1次进攻球权平均可得1.07分。1次篮板可减少敌队
1次进攻球权，增加我队1次进攻球权，但因为有防守篮板的因素影响，篮板加权不宜比
抄截高，因为防守篮板有某种必然性跟团队性：敌队没进的球，我队抢到防守篮板的机
率就是比较高，这跟团队卡位、人员站位有关，而且抢防守篮板的工作大多是已经设定
给中锋或大前锋优先去抢）
4.1000场平均抄截加权乘以2.14。（1次进攻球权平均可得1... 阅读全帖 |
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o**4
发帖数: 35028 | 38
看效率大致就行了，排名不分先后，稍有偏差，但基本靠谱
1-20 超巨
20-50 巨星
50-200 球星
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.25
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.63
7. Chris Paul 25.45
8. Bob Pettit* 25.35
9. Tim Duncan 24.78
10. Neil Johnston* 24.69
11. Charles Barkley* 24.63
12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
13. Magic Johnson* 24.11
14. Karl Malone* 23.90
15. Dirk Nowitzki 23.63
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
17. Larry Bird* 23.50
18. Kobe Br... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3360 | 39 3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
8. Bob Pettit* 25.35
10. Neil Johnston* 24.69
12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59 |
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d*****s
发帖数: 5610 | 42 比以前差多了，Duncan这么老，居然还能打到决赛。
当年的公牛，O胖的湖人，Olajuwon的火箭，肯定能横扫这几年的NBA冠军。
关键是能打内线的中锋太少了。 |
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J********9
发帖数: 36508 | 43 Olajuwon
MJ
巴菲
Stockton
窝火no 1 pick 选了Olajuwan 原来窝火是miss MJ的第一支球队 |
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J********9
发帖数: 36508 | 44 我妞主教练居然是那一年的70th pick 哈哈
Olajuwon
MJ
巴菲
Stockton
窝火no 1 pick 选了Olajuwan 原来窝火是miss MJ的第一支球队 |
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发帖数: 28835 | 45 The next season Houston won the Midwest Division with a 51–31 record. In
the playoffs, the Rockets swept the Sacramento Kings, but faced a stiffer
challenge against Alex English and the Denver Nuggets in the Conference Semi
-Finals, eventually winning the series 4–2, with the sixth and deciding
game going to double overtime. Against the defending champion Lakers in the
Conference Finals, the Rockets were ready to knock off their rivals who had
the best of them during the season. The Rockets lost... 阅读全帖 |
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m*******a
发帖数: 4507 | 46 Any of those big 4 centers in 90s - Olajuwon, Ewing, Robinson, and O'Neal
will beat DH by a mile. Even Yao beat DH offensively!! |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 47 MCHALE'S COACHING EXPOSED
Jeremy Lin mistreatment, bench blunder completely exposes Kevin McHale's
coaching: Collapse no surprise
BY CHRIS BALDWIN 4.24.14 | 4:24 am
"Calm down! You need to calm down!" the gray-haired security guard pleads
and screams. He's urging two Houston Rockets fans who knock into each other
in the rush to flee the nightmare to stop pushing and sending killer glares
one another's way as a small testosterone-heavy group of onlookers quickly
gathers around to watch.
"Fight! ... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 591 | 48 PER这些大家都知道；下面是季后赛的win share，这眼瞅着就要第一去了，没有大的伤
病，起码还要打7、8年呢。
1. Michael Jordan* 39.76
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 35.56
3. Tim Duncan 34.51
4. Magic Johnson* 32.63
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 31.46
6. LeBron James 31.27
7. Shaquille O'Neal 31.08
8. Kobe Bryant 28.26
9. Bill Russell* 27.76
10. Julius Erving* 26.89
11. Jerry West* 26.75
12. Larry Bird* ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 49 Notable playoff clutch shots[edit]
May 22, 1995, Western Conference Finals, Game 1, Houston Rockets at San
Antonio Spurs. Horry hit a jumper with 6.5 seconds left to give Houston a 94
-93 win over San Antonio at the Alamodome.[19]
June 11, 1995, NBA Finals, Game 3, Orlando Magic at Houston Rockets. With
the Rockets up 101-100 with 20 seconds left and the shot clock winding down,
Hakeem Olajuwon kicked it out to Horry, who hit a 3 over Orlando's Horace
Grant to give Houston a 104-100 lead with 14... 阅读全帖 |
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l**p
发帖数: 6080 | 50 季后赛25+5+5+60%命中率
1 LeBron James F 2006 2014 17
2 Shaquille O'Neal C 1995 2004 12
3 Larry Bird* F 1985 1991 9
4 Michael Jordan* G 1989 1992 9
5 Hakeem Olajuwon* C 1987 1997 9
6 Charles Barkley* F 1986 1994 8
7 Dwyane Wade G 2005 2011 8
8 Magic Johnson* G 1985 1996 7
9 James Worthy* F 1987 1991 7
10 ... 阅读全帖 |
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