K**o
发帖数: 906 | 1 N 久前bee 同学推荐的nrg2取代nxt.
玩了几包后感觉还8错，跟nxt手感类似，reliability比nxt能多打2小时而不fray.
其他没区别。很大缺点也是没mini reel. 小包15刀，大卷215。打球还是线最费钱，拍
子最便宜。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 2 I'm hybriding SPPP with NRG2. If it's full poly string job, the feel must be
worse. I don't want to cut it. The NRG2 already started to flake.
Eventually it will break. |
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M***x
发帖数: 288 | 3 I am not sure about NXT. But compared with NRG2, RIP Control is much, much
more durable.
NRG2 has the good feeling and superior performance for sure, but it breaks
way too fast for me. I haven't used X1 yet so no comment. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 4 买的旧拍子自带的RPM Blast(main)和VS Gut (cross)的Hybrid,一年前穿的，收到后我
用了不下六七次，VS Gut仍然未有起毛的迹象，要是NRG2早就毛毛了。我估计VS Gut的
Durablity至少是NRG2的5倍 |
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s******e
发帖数: 1352 | 5 没那么夸张吧？
我用过NRG2作cross，感觉durability和main用什么很有关系。用alu power的时候很快
就毛了，但是main上silverstring的话很久都没事。
另外上过full bed V gut和NRG2，感觉durability差不多，不过V gut就算很毛了照样
打，影响不大. |
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l******n
发帖数: 641 | 6 网线和穿线（译文）
“线是球拍的灵魂”——佚名
也许线真是球拍的灵魂，但是对太多选手来说，这是追悔时候才有的感受。不少选手会
花费6个月来选择一把拍子，但是用6分钟来决定穿什么线。庆幸的是，近20年来合成线
的科技发生了引人瞩目的进步，以至于现在很少很少有“不好的”线。但是，并不是所
有的线（以及穿线磅数）是普适的。这些指导会对你的在线和穿线磅数的选择上有所帮
助。
手感
怎样的线算是手感好，这个问题很难获得一致结论。一些选手喜欢脆而硬的线，而另外
一些把手感视同为软且舒适。一般来说，有手感的线是弹性好的，也就是说能对球的冲
击作快速猛烈的回弹。另外，线的材质、结构、粗细也都会影响到线的手感。现在弹性
（手感）最好的仍然是天然肠线，这是目前唯一取材于天然原料——牛肠的线。他是最
古老的网球线，至今仍然是手感的基准。目前最公认的手感较好球线，包括：Babolat
X-Cel、Prince Premier w/SoftFlex、Tecnifibre NRG2、Tecnifibre X-One BiPhase
和 Wilson Sensation NXT。此外，手感不错，且价格低廉的，比如： |
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c******r
发帖数: 132 | 7 把小丹尼给的TW的链接整理了一下，和中文对照起来，方便大家选择。
1.单芯单层纤维结构 (Solid Core with One Outer Wrap)
Babolat Conquest
Gosen OG Sheep Micro
Gosen OG Jim Courier
KLIP Scorcher
Prince Synthetic Gut Original
Wilson Stamina Synthetic Gut
2.单芯多层纤维结构 (Solid Core with Multi Wraps)
Gamma Gut 2,
Gamma TNT Pro Plus
KLIP Scorcher
3.多纤维结构 (Multifilament (no wraps))
Babolat X-Cel Premium
Gamma ESP
Head Fiber Gel
KLIP Excellerator
Prince Premier w/SoftFlex
Tecnifibre 515, NRG2, X-One BiPhase
Wilson Sensation, Sensation NXT
4.复纤维单芯多层结 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 8 同感。最近研究了一下球线，觉得一下性价比不错：
1. Tecnifibre NRG2 17g
2. Tecnifibre X-1 Biphase 17g
3. Gamma Live Wire Professional (You can get it from Ebay for around $10 a
set)
4. Head FXP Power |
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s*********4
发帖数: 3362 | 9 研究了一下
现在穿的线是 Tecnifibre NRG2 17
好像还不错,正好多试一种线 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 10 如果你不用 Poly 的话，推荐以下的Multifilament
比较贵一些的
Tecnifibre NRG2 17
便宜一些的
Head FXP Power 17
可以用Gosen Micro 17做Cross |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 11 If you're very good at stringing, you can cut 20 ft out of a 40-ft set. Ask
your LD to hold both ends, you align it up and cut right in the middle. I
tried 20 ft before, it's just enough to string the main for Prestige MP,
meaning there is just enough slack for tensioning the last main.
If you're not very good at stringing, you'll have to cut 21 ft just to be
safe for main.
The feel of FXP Power is great. It's crisp and comfortable. Even it's less
durable than NRG2, I still use it a lot.
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 12 If I were you, I wouldn't. Strings from KliperUSA are just so so, though
Klipermate machine is great. If you really like Poly/Multi hybrid, I suggest
you to try luxilon big banger main, tecnifibre nrg2 cross. You can start
with buying 1 set, cut it half. |
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w********u
发帖数: 1865 | 13 至于multi的线，打过的最舒服的是babolat的xcel，但是太容易断，luxilon的m2也不
错，耐打一些。technifibre的nrg2评价很高，但是没用过。 |
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J***e
发帖数: 283 | 14 sigh，只是这试十把拍子要好多银子呀~~~~~
肯尼迪，我把我去年买的K95 18x20 卖给你吧，8.5/10，NRG2 17 string
我要变成纳豆一样的pusher，不打K95啦
给你便宜吧，hoho |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 15 Tecnifibre 已经涨了，NRG2涨到了14块。听说Wilson也快了。 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 16 my favourtie hybrid is SPPP 17 and NRG2 17. String never moves. Tension
holds very well. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 17 你把Poly和Syn Gut hybrid stringing 不就行了?
我一般把SPPP和好的Multi hybrid （比如NRG2),打到Multi 磨断，手感基本没有差别。 |
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R*****n
发帖数: 610 | 18 thanks. how about the endurance for Kirschbaum? I like NRG2 but it is so
easy to break, less than 4 times of play...
and
me |
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f*****n
发帖数: 18176 | 19 comments from TW.
Comments: I think people are looking at this the wrong way (i.e., good or
bad). It was the premier racquet of its time, and still holds up relatively
well to the competition. But to compare it in terms of better or worse makes
no sense. It's like comparing a Ferrari from the 60s to the sports cars of
today. In terms of performance, the Ferrari cannot compete. Still, I would
love to have that Ferrari. And like this sports car analogy, you could use
these sticks to make your tenn... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****n
发帖数: 610 | 20 鞋不容易买好， 款式尺寸品位都不一样。
可以考虑三大高手的衣服，头巾帽子之类比较好带。 特别是老费的。 （TW有）
还有就是NIKE的dry-fit 衣服。 袜子也很舒服。。
当然还有线， luxilon alu power, nrg2... |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 22 Some strings I recommend.
$: prince synthetic gut duraflex 17 (55 lbs) or gosen micro sheep 17 (54 lbs
as tension stability is better)
$$: Weiss Cannon Scorpion 17 Main (50 lbs), gosen Micro sheep 17 cross (
50lbs)
$$: Full string job of Technifibre NRG2 (55lbs) - if you like multifliament |
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R*****n
发帖数: 610 | 23 my limited experience.
ALU Big Banger 17 for main. it is durable and playable plus can generate
spin.(you can use rough for more spin)
NRG2 16 for cross. It is multi-fiber. soft. give you very good feel. but
easy to break. if you play a lot but don't want to string a lot then normal
syn gut 17 ( like Gosen) is good enough.. |
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 26 试验过alu rough/nrg2 56/53, disaster，完全没法打 |
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s***i
发帖数: 6149 | 27 Babolat APD,横线NRG2@56 lb, 主力拍竖线tourbite@56 lb, 副拍竖线Weiss CANNON
Black 5 Edge 17@56 lb.
black5给我的feel很好，准备过渡到主力用线，淘汰tourbite，因此最近几场比赛都是
第一盘用副拍，第二盘用主拍
结果如下
副拍: 1:6 2:6 7:5
主拍: 6:3 6:2 6:2
结论:换器材,哪怕只是一根线，也不是件容易的事情 |
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K**o
发帖数: 906 | 28 Nrg2 16. Same feeling with nxt. Can last 5matches if nxt 4matches。of coz
crossing dies first |
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b*****t
发帖数: 758 | 29 Just check the reviews in TW, it seems X-one biphase is even more durable?
My next 4 sets of strings would be nrg2 and x-one. Thx. |
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b*****t
发帖数: 758 | 30 After some more research, i agree that RIP may be the most durable
multifilament string. I ordered 7 16g strings including RIP, NRG2, X1, and
some prince and dunlop strings. This should last for a while. Thx for the
info. |
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K**o
发帖数: 906 | 31 好使吗？听说耐用性很好。
Nrg2 nxt 之类 虽然不错，还是不很耐用。一旦fray就加速断掉 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 32 Please share your Multifilament experience。Poly很快就感觉dead了。So far my
favorite is still NRG2。 Just a little bit expensive。
I just bid half reel (360') Kirschbaum Touch Multifibre for $60。 Never used
it before. Hopefully it won't disappoint me. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 33 I recently strung my Microgel Prestige Pro with Gosen Micro 16g Main and
Yonex Tour Super 850 16g cross at 55lbs. I have played 3 matches with it. So
far the Multi 850 cross hasn't got fluffy yet.
NRG2 usually gets fluffy after 3 matches.
so |
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K**o
发帖数: 906 | 34 从nxt 换到nrg2的，结果最多能比nxt多打一次就不行了。其实一旦脱皮就很快完蛋。
还是rpm靠谱，咋打都象新的，无聊之下刚把16 Gage的剪了，上了17。不过偶硬是没看
出17比16 细.. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 35 好的multifilament 都不便宜啊
nxt, nrg2, biphase, xcel, etc.
有没有性价比更好些的？ |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 36 每个人有自己心目中性价比最好的线，对我来说，性价比最好的线是Gosen Micro OG
Sheep 17g。非常versatile。既可以Full Job，也可以hybrid。既可以hybrid做main，
也可以hybrid做Cross。比所有multifilament，比其他synthetic gut要durable，而且
走线相对少。我喜欢用以下hybrid.
1. Gosen Micro 17 (Main), Multifilament 17g (cross)
2. Co-poly (Main), Gosen Micro 17g cross
#2的配置非常durable，可以用很长时间。因为Gosen Micro很crisp，tension
maintenance很好，这样的配置Gosen Micro我一般上52lbs左右，起到把string bed
soften的作用，如果磅数太高，就会太stiff或low power。
#1的配置是我的最爱，Gosen Micro上55磅，Multifliament (nrg2, xcel, nxt, etc)
上55磅。最后一般会把Mu... 阅读全帖 |
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s******e
发帖数: 1352 | 37 NRG2基本上=x1，但是便宜些，建议试试。其实head FXP也不错，但是得要16的，17走
线忒crazy. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 38 I probably tried more strings than you. I still have half reel of NRG2. Head
FXP is not a true multifilament. :) |
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s******e
发帖数: 1352 | 39 这个我不怀疑。我最多try过10几种线而已。NRG2和X-1都用过，对我来说基本就是一个
感觉。FXP不是multi我不知道，不过手感比较接近。
另外还有推荐cross么？现在main是poly（偏软的）. 比较理想是手感好（软一点，没
办法就喜欢软软的感觉）而且不怎么走线的。
Head |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 40 这些球拍都是非常好的中级通往高级之路的拍子。因为我已经settle down Head MGPP
，不再花心其他球拍了，所以慢慢把这些出了。
1. Yonex RQIS Tour 1, 4 3/8, 9+/10, $85 shipped, strung with NXT 17
2. Head Microgel Prestige Midplus, 4 3/8, 9+/10, $85 shipped, strung with
NRG2 17
3. Fischer M Pro No 1 No Tolerance Version, 4 3/8, 8.5/10, $75 shipped
4. Fischer M Pro No 1 (older version), 4 3/8, 8/10, $65 shipped
5. Fischer Pro No 1 330g, 4 3/8, 9/10, $70 shipped
6. Fischer Pro No 1 320g, 4 3/8, 9/10, $70 shipped
7. ProKennex Heritage Type C Redondo MP... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 41 Here are the strings that I mainly use or prefer.
Polys: weiss cannon scorpion 17; weiss cannon silverstring 17; Tourna Big
Hitter 17 (they are all medium priced copoly; pretty soft compared to
luxilon; I don't string full poly string job. I always hybrid with soft
synthetic or Multi; Poly main & multi cross)
Multifilament: Tecnifibre NRG2 17, Wilson NXT 17, Babolat Xcel 16 (they are
quite expensive); For medium priced multi, try Yonex 850.
Sythetic Gut: Gosen Micro OG Sheep 17 (natural color)
I... 阅读全帖 |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 42 I tried mine last night against ball machine. Melbourne is powerful, so
powerful that my drive is as fast as Ken's stroke, but many went out of
control. It's also hard to add heavy top spin.
I'm surprised to see such power on a 12oz(stung, 11.5oz unstrung) 6pt head-
light racket with 18x20 pattern. I'm using Tecnifibre NRG2 17 at 55lb.
Perhaps poly string or high tension will make control better. |
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x*d
发帖数: 1696 | 43 yeah, that one is nice. I finally ordered Melbourne with Tecnifibre NRG2 17
at 55lb. will see.
I |
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m****z
发帖数: 978 | 44 Just keep in mind. String preference is very subjective. It is closely
related to everything else about you or me.
I am 2HBH baseline top spin hitter, prefer top spin serves.(Translate, I
like poly string for spin and control). My regular racquet is Head Radical
MP (low power, very flexible, dense pattern). I prefer thinner strings and
that have some power but not too much. I have a little elbow/shoulder
soreness due to jerky follow-though on serve and forehand in match play,
when I am tight.... 阅读全帖 |
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m****z
发帖数: 978 | 45 You have a real?????????!!!!!!!!
gosh, You should string the real nice Wilson Natural Gut or NRG2 Multi. They
hold tension for long time. |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 46 These are pretty interesting reviews.
What I usually do besides testing the string in person: 1) check tennis
warehouse university string comparison tool:
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/comparestrings.
This tool is very useful to tell the relative stiffness, power, spin,
tension loss between different strings.
2) check TW review and feedback 3) Also check TW forum people's post
I never tried Luxilon Ace 18, but from my personal experience and TW
university/feedback Volkl Cyclone... 阅读全帖 |
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m****z
发帖数: 978 | 47 These are very insightful reply:
1. Thanks for the string comparison tool. I never used it before, it
will be super helpful. I have those objective measures to go along with
subjective feels.
2. Natural or Multi/Poly Hybrid waste of money: I think you are right on
. That is what I feel as well. Multi is so powerful; it lowered the overall
control and spin. The main reason I tried it is to mimic the pro setup.
But to them money is no issue. Maybe the opposite, the vendor want them to... 阅读全帖 |
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