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e**n
发帖数: 5876
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来自主题: PhotoGear版 - GX7被DPR黑了
79分 银奖. 看看cons里都是些啥nitpick
In-body stabilization not available for image composition
同时有body和lens的IS, p是业界独一份吧. 如果没加IBIS, 就没这条con了 feature加
得越多, nitpick的地方越多
Camera tends to use small apertures (rather than faster shutter speeds) in
Program mode
nitpick nitpick
No sensor-shift IS in movie mode
如果没加IBIS, 就没这条con了吧 feature加得越多, nitpick的地方越多
Strong 'rainbow' tearing effect in EVF
EVF is hard to see outdoors, adds bulk to camera
EVF "adds bulk to camera"??!! 不加bulk的EVF physically possible? EVF象
ran... 阅读全帖
h******n
发帖数: 734
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来自主题: Tennis版 - 2014 小总结(流水涨)
lopez,ok, imho when serve gets your level it is tough to nitpick without a
reference because many things people nitpick are just personal styles.

don'
mechanics
k***r
发帖数: 13724
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来自主题: Movie版 - BvS的个人吐槽-严重剧透
所谓个人吐槽,属于小众观点,很多都是nitpicking,就是不吐不快,发泄一下。
1,大超感应lois lane的能力咋来的? 心跳平率谱的特性?为啥他不能感应他妈有危
险? 还是两人云雨后大超把ll转基因了?有这个能力以后injustice怎么开端?
2,大开杀戒的batman以后怎么领导JL?luther在狱中和batman的那一段是梦境还是现
实?如果是现实batman杀了他有何不可?
3,红闪的演员怎么和电视剧不是一个人? DC想省钱?
4, 超人会用子弹杀人的阴谋论有点搞啊,超人真想掩盖自己杀人不如直接瞪眼把你灰
飞烟灭了。
5,batman的20多年惩恶扬善生涯让他明白好人能变坏,1%会变坏的超人就得消灭之,
那世上其他所有人都是guilty的了,当然妈妈叫Martha的例外。
6,ww出现的初衷是要拿回自己的一张照片对吧,batman弄了个copy给她她就准备坐飞
机回去了,这是因为她就想看看自己一百年前的样子? 应该毁掉luther的服务器才收
手啊。
7,robin的衣服+杀人不眨眼的batman = 这个universe里的joker已死?
8,国会听证会爆炸+调... 阅读全帖
d*********a
发帖数: 107
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csthing同学, 我老早就警告过你,不要太温柔含蓄,男人嘛就是该糙一点, 你看你
惹祸上身了吧:
当一个女人故意对你无关宏旨地进行 nitpicking 的时候,就是她快要爱上你了 :-)
她之所以要 nitpicking, 就是想多吸引你的注意
//我靠, 老头你行啊! 不仅智商,你这情商也钢钢的啊!
j***b
发帖数: 5901
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - 所谓刘菊花的抄袭问题
I don't care 方's judgment. I care about his evidence. That's all that
matters. I have said this: you don't need reputation to fight dishonesty,
all you need is evidence.
There is the issue of proportion. Everyone is imperfect some way or other.
You can't just nitpick someone ('s wife?) with a magnify glass and declare
him moral bankruptcy once you find imperfection no matter how trivial it is.
Those who pick Fang are not really interested in fighting academic
dishonesty, they are only interested... 阅读全帖
c******o
发帖数: 1184
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评价的不错
http://www.exurbe.com/?p=2176
“The Borgias” vs. “Borgia: Faith and Fear” (accuracy in historical
fiction)
Posted by exurbe on July 26, 2013 Fandom
BorgiaFrenchTVPoster
A French “Spot the Saint” themed poster for “Borgia: Faith and Fear”
assigning Cesare the attributes: archbishop’s robes, scythe, dagger, bloody
hands, blood. The French caption reads “Don’t have faith in them.” I
can’t argue.
There was a Borgia boom in 2011 when, aiming to capitalize on the commercial
success of The Tudor... 阅读全帖
l**m
发帖数: 5113
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来自主题: Military版 - 我对精英说一句
JY们的26个关键词
Abundant
丰富。
精英们相信自然界的资源是丰富的,因而尽管一部分人过着奢侈的生活,这也和余下另
一部分人的痛苦生存毫无关系。穷人的问题应当由他们自己负责。比如,1950年代的中
国,原本完全可以通过让所有少女们向外国人开放来解决经济问题——比起日本,中国
的少女资源更丰富。
Boldness
1、无畏;
2、无耻。
这个词在此做无畏理解。我们知道,精英们由于掌握了真理,他们是无所畏惧的——比
如号称中国的良心的余杰(在关天上常见人给他这个称号),就敢于声称中国人的苦难
都是由于原罪的缘故……(参见词条G)。当然,这个词在这里是不会作为厚颜无耻解
释的。
Colony
殖民。
据说中国如果成功地保持这个身份100年的话今天我们将会过着美好生活。奇怪的是世
界各地的殖民地都流行着独立病。而且其中有的还是蒙受宗主国超过100年大恩而不思
报答,渴求独立这种毒药。最早的患者据说在美洲,出现在18世纪。
Defame
中伤。
周恩来的私生女、鲁迅的性无能都是很好的素料,精英们可以用这些来做钉子汤。莱温
斯基的裙子上的污点由于其实存性而不能加入到该种汤里面。这种汤需要... 阅读全帖
n********d
发帖数: 7676
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来自主题: Military版 - 【转幼河博客】毛时代的人们
nitpicking, 2DM is not NPC, 3DM is.
c***h
发帖数: 1862
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方舟子翻译美联社文章 指国内博客写手抹黑美国(图)
(作者:Didi Tang,翻译:方舟子)
亲爱的中国读者,你还认为美国梦盖过了中国梦吗?
嘿,看看周小平的博客,你将学到在美国你将会不得不一年支付3500美
元买汽车强险,买一辆低端国产车要花30000美元,以及在多数公立学校,
超过一半的学生不能毕业。
所有这些数字都是错得离谱。甚至中国宣传官员也承认周小平出错。但是在
过去的18个月北京搞运动反对所谓网上错误信息、清除网上批评评论和逮捕数
十名博客写手的同时,共产党拥抱了周。
这个月早先时候,他在一次罕见的文艺会议上与习近平主席握手,当时这名
33岁博客写手与中国小说家、诺贝尔文学奖获得者莫言坐在一起。周在其博客
说习告诉他继续在网上传播“正能量”。
中国古板的官方媒体在试图突出西方国家的阴暗面时通常很失败,但是周的
做法更为成功:他的微博有50多万粉丝,共产党的网站和报纸发表他的文章。
他熟练地使用时髦的网络语言,包括把他的读者叫做“亲”。
但是他的文章引来了怀疑者的批评,他们说他歪曲事实和误导读者,这让官
方推崇他的努力有事与愿违的危险。
“像周这样的人在帮助政权引导舆论方面... 阅读全帖
f*******2
发帖数: 149
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来自主题: Military版 - trump 和 希拉里 的基本盘
"我不理解某些中产阶级高科技Asian为什么喜欢H" 是一种间接表达的手法,意思是他
们因该选T,OK?
don't you get the point here? When you communicate with other folks, get the
spirit, not the words. To me, it seems like you are just nitpicking on my
words and trying to avoiding talking about your side.
and why are you so hesitated to mention your option about AA? Are you an
Asian? do you EVER CARE about Asian? If so, does it really cost that high
for you mention your thoughts about AA program?
c********e
发帖数: 4283
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来自主题: Military版 - 国人为什么“爱国”?
我女儿那个应该是preschool自己搞的,本来就是private的么, 做什么事情有他们有
latitude
但公立学校里每天早上的pledge of allegiance是天天早上搞的,至少我们镇如此,我
老婆教书的镇也是如此(我老婆是公立学校老师,天天早上在home room里带学生
recite pledge of allegiance), 当然美国太大了,YMMV
爱国爱党的,这个就是nitpicking了,当然见仁见智,我这里不愿意展开讨论。
c********e
发帖数: 4283
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来自主题: Military版 - costco的鸡是激素鸡吧
well, it's my choice, and choice of millions of Americans
you can sing all day and all night for my waste of money, but I still say NO
to non-organic chicken(or meat if someone wants to nitpick on my choice of
word!)
J****n
发帖数: 8583
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给大家翻译了一下

郑宇硕从加拿大多伦多,写道:是什么,任何人都可以看到的是,所有
中国人是很乐意当他们参加这些游戏及他们感到自豪时,
中国赢得金牌。庞大的国家资源不能产生冠军。它
是辛勤工作,纪律和奉献精神产生冠军在每一个
包括田径场。当然也没有庞大的国家资源,可以有
产生6枚金牌,为牙买加人。我个人并不赞同
民族主义在任何领域,我认为其中一个主要的原因造成
国家间的冲突是因过度热心的民族主义。但它是
正是因为人都喜欢杰弗里纽约谁一直不断
nitpicking和贬低中国和中国已,导致在
中国人民谈到对他们的感受的民族主义。我是第三
一代加拿大的中国传统文化,出生和长大,在加拿大。看到
中国人赢得那么多奖牌,肯定引起了我的骄傲,正
中国在我的遗产。但读这种偏颇的报告
杰弗里纽约令我双和三重自豪我的中国文物
杰弗里纽约令我双和三重自豪我的中国文物
以至于我从来没有觉得之前。我知道现在不论是什么样的
政府认为,中国正在管治,都会有人喜欢
杰弗里纽约谁可以永远不会带来自己给予信贷信用是
由于和中国人民是不会同其他人民一样,在世界上谁是
不准有感情的自豪感和自尊心。在过去,我从来
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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来自主题: USANews版 - The Coming Post-Obama Renaissance
October 2, 2011 - 3:59 pm - by Victor Davis Hanson

The Parting of the Clouds
In every literary, historical or cinematic masterpiece, times must grow
darkest before the sunrise and deliverance. Tolkien worked that classical
theme to great effect. A sense of fatalism overtook a seemingly doomed
Gondor — right before the overthrow of Barad-dûr and the dawn of a new
age of men. The historian Herodotus, in literary fashion, also brilliantly
juxtaposed the Greek collapse at Thermopylae (the... 阅读全帖
M******d
发帖数: 486
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来自主题: USANews版 - something for fun.
Pretty funny.
Not to nitpick, it's "china", not "China".

A
s***q
发帖数: 10585
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 买车还是韩国车好啊!
只要是一辆车,都能找到一大堆歧义
ACURA
Always Catching Up, Rarely Ahead
Asia's Curse Upon Rural America
A Car Usually Rarely Appreciates
AMC
Always Made Crap
Autos May Combust
AUDI
Accelerates Under Demonic Influence
Always Unsafe Designs Implemented
Always Under Diagnostic Inspection
Always Upside-down, Double Interest
Another Understated Dealer Incentive
A Used Dodge Incognito
BMW
Bob Marley and the Wailers
Beautiful Mechanical Wonder
Beautiful Models Wanted
Bavarian Manure Wagon
Biggest Metal Waste
Big Money... 阅读全帖
u****q
发帖数: 24345
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写的不错。Nitpick一下:红脖大叔是 he,不是 she。
k****a
发帖数: 4944
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"Sure-footed all-wheel-drive handling." That's the kind of lingo you're
likely to hear in car ads and marketing material, and it has prompted me to
shout at televisions, print ads, and the occasional car-company rep: All-
wheel drive doesn't help handling!
It's disingenuous to say or infer that AWD enhances cornering prowess, or
that it'll help a driver avoid a fallen tree or dodge Bambi. When it comes
to handling, all-wheel drive is overrated (not to mention heavy and gas-
sucking), especially ... 阅读全帖
s******g
发帖数: 972
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来自主题: Faculty版 - 發個帖子抱怨一下
【 以下文字转载自 Dreamer 讨论区 】
发信人: Dreamer (不要问我从哪里来), 信区: Dreamer
标 题: 發個帖子抱怨一下
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jul 1 23:30:59 2011, 美东)
最近一篇會議論文沒有被錄用,這個本來沒有啥,關鍵是本人的文章是被据論文中平均
分最高的(比不少被接受了的論文的平均分都高!)。 四個審稿人中三個給的分數都还
可以(其中一個还給了最高分),除了第四位。 這肆毫無根據瘋狂攻擊technical
soundness of the proposed approach,完全是baseless. 整個評語全部在nitpicking.
其實圈子很小,不難猜測到遮第4位審稿人是誰。基本上可以確定是某老中助理教授。
這位老兄不知道天生喜歡挑刺,還是刻意和我過意不去。對我的以前的論文投稿下濄重
手好幾次了,我只是不曾點破而已。 最近這斯还邀請我幫審論文。 真是可笑。 這個
SOB还挺會裝!以前也不是沒有審濄這肆的投稿或者proposal,儘管也知道他曾對我的
投稿下濄好幾次重手,可是還是相對公平給分,絕對沒有往死里... 阅读全帖
j***b
发帖数: 5901
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These stupid people must have got a ton of led in their head to nitpick the
way the CV was written. Who cares about that if she has quite some
achievement in research?
g********u
发帖数: 8891
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来自主题: FleaMarket版 - [-] submit
My GOODness, you r such a nitpicker, even a buyer offers, if he does not pay
u, move on, an offer does not mean absolutely sucessful transaction, things
happen.
You r on my blacklist for sure. Life is too short to deal with sichy like u.
Submit, I highly suggest u MOVE THE HELL ON.

Anyone
your
A*****i
发帖数: 3587
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 白人面试官怎么样?
关于黑人,白人属于把你卖了你还帮人数钞票那种。
老印呢,属于问问题你就知道他要黑你的,比较容易看出来。
老中呢,丫一开口就知道是不是要黑你了。
但是对于黑人的概率来说,白人最低,最高是老印,老中因为个人没碰见过所以不好说。
个人情况来说,今年90%遇到的是白人,这90%里面只有10%左右确实是被黑了,而且是
被拒了之后才发现被黑了。
剩下10%遇到老印,基本上见一个准一个全被黑了,都是正在面的时候就感觉不好了。
就那种根本不在同一段频谱上的感觉,你解释他说不对,然后就挑刺,nitpick,实际
上他也是屁都不知道。
因为今年面的都是startup,所以仅供参考
A*****i
发帖数: 3587
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 被G电面给毙了
这跟只会刷题没有任何关系。
这人就是nitpick,至于多态你真是想多了。
人家要想拒随便找个理由就能拒了,所以LZ显然是来凑数的。

A*****i
发帖数: 3587
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 被G电面给毙了
这跟只会刷题没有任何关系。
这人就是nitpick,至于多态你真是想多了。
人家要想拒随便找个理由就能拒了,所以LZ显然是来凑数的。

N**s
发帖数: 1916
25
if sold "as is" then i will just take a look by myself for any major defects.
if not as is, then inspection and nitpick so that you can get back home
inspection cost.
c**2
发帖数: 8496
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来自主题: Living版 - HOME WARRANTY修东西就是麻烦
mine is $400 (the rate is if paying annually from you the day you bought the
house, if you skip a year, it will be a higher rate to come back)
the system and appliance policy I bought covers all big appliances, and
systems (see their webpage). And my buyer agent two years ago got me this
price (seller paid the first year premium), not sure if most homeowners will
get this price.
well, I was worried because of many online negative reviews about them, but
in my both claims, they paid the contract... 阅读全帖
t*******n
发帖数: 4445
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来自主题: Medicine版 - 牙科FAQ(草稿)
PPO doctors expect to get reimbursement per service from the insurance
company. Sometimes there are mistakes or the company tries not to pay by
nitpicking.
HMO pays its doctors a fixed fee per month per patient, with maybe a small
patient co-pay. This way you won't end up with unexpected bill, but
sometimes ppl are denied reasonable treatment and HMOs don't cover any out-
of-network dentist.
t*******n
发帖数: 4445
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来自主题: Medicine版 - 牙科FAQ(草稿)
PPO doctors expect to get reimbursement per service from the insurance
company. Sometimes there are mistakes or the company tries not to pay by
nitpicking.
HMO pays its doctors a fixed fee per month per patient, with maybe a small
patient co-pay. This way you won't end up with unexpected bill, but
sometimes ppl are denied reasonable treatment and HMOs don't cover any out-
of-network dentist.
G**T
发帖数: 2610
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nitpick挑个bug:
按上下文,应该是“碰上邪教主”,不是邪教徒 -- 四岁娃在成为邪教“徒”的路上。
G**T
发帖数: 2610
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nitpick挑个bug:
按上下文,应该是“碰上邪教主”,不是邪教徒 -- 四岁娃在成为邪教“徒”的路上。
q***2
发帖数: 1861
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有的时候还是有内容的。 像几个月前那个"来美十年的 BSO贴", 就是难得一见的好贴 - 当然还是被这个版上 NY 的某个ID追着问,追着骂了很长...
(后注: 哇,底下居然真是有人要对号入座啊! 那就把那些个贴联过来
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/StartUp/31214943.html
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/WaterWorld/472817.html
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/StartUp/31214735_0_2.html
some good lessons -I agree 100% - from that LZ:
发信人: tiger0503 (tiger), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Re: 来美十年-BSO
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Aug 29 19:10:29 2010, 美东)
A lot of research,trial and error, and luck as well.
I did a lot of ... 阅读全帖
k********n
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pussy is the origin! I do not think man will pay that much attention to "ji ji wai wai all the way, nitpicking"
please find a girl with very good and traditional personality, that is worth
1B USD!! Can I use 1b to buy back the time? no!
we only need a double size bed, and a 12 x 12 sqft room....what else?
g*****u
发帖数: 14294
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油工的这个两个瓷玩偶是景德镇出的吗?

ji ji wai wai all the way, nitpick"
worth
b********y
发帖数: 5829
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very good point!

"ji ji wai wai all the way, nitpicking"
worth
E**********r
发帖数: 2743
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唉,我也知道别理太多的闲事啊,有时候就是忍不住,此版的贱人呔多。谢谢关心。
:)
听你的,以后nitpicking my battles, 专心跟着你赚钱。
w*****e
发帖数: 931
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nitpick 一下 mv是动量,动能是1/2mv^2
E***r
发帖数: 1037
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来自主题: Stock版 - 我的Covered Call昨天被收走了
Sorry for nitpicking, but `stock - call + put` are non-zero.
For American options on dividend-paying stocks,
its bounds are given by put-call parity:
`bond <= stock - call + put <= dividend + strike`
where "bond" denotes the present value of a
zero-coupon bond paid at the strike price.
For European options on dividend-paying stocks,
`stock - call + put = dividend + bond`.

Put
t***3
发帖数: 936
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来自主题: Stock版 - 我的Covered Call昨天被收走了
not really. 很多股票你会发现你这个不成立。

:Sorry for nitpicking, but `stock - call + put` are non-zero.
g***g
发帖数: 110
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来自主题: Working版 - 做faculty的郁闷时刻(ZT)
做faculty的郁闷时刻(ZT)
闹钟把我吵醒了。星期三,有九点半的早会。以往还会在被窝里缓缓再起来,
但今天不同,马上爬起来,上网看看选举结果。TNND, 小树丛竟然破咒,
再次当选了。这下,切尼这帮人更能挟“多数票总统”而肆虐了。连Daschle
都栽了。郁闷。
去了学校,已经是九点三十五,但人还没来齐。看得出来,气氛比较诡异,
都是选举惹得祸。跟坐在旁边的来自美国南部的哥们比尔嘀咕了两句,比尔
对这么快就解决而不用通过法庭来处理的结果比较满意,但最后说了句,他
妈的,又让这帮“红脖子”赢了。
系主任进来,给大家散发了会议议程,有七项。我看看比尔,互相撇撇嘴。
又是一个长会,但据以往的经验,能完成三项就不错了。
果不其然,在第二项上,大家的分歧就开始大了起来。那个挑毛拣刺(nitpicker)
的又开始对一个文件上的措辞用语进行刁难。系主任今天好像是有备而来,
一句“那你觉得该怎么写”把对方的火力压了下去。这边葫芦下去了,那边瓢
又起来。不过这个瓢是个好瓢:好好先生开始对系主任起草的文件进行夸奖。
不过系主任似乎对吹捧不太在意,一句谢谢之后,就把话题转了。美国人也
一样,也有爱拍
m*****t
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来自主题: Immigration版 - 3 separate checks okay?
i know i'm probably nitpicking.. but is it okay to submit 3 checks, one is $
420, one in $985, one in $85 for i-130/i-485 concurrent filing? anything
special i need to write on the checks? Thanks guys
S*******s
发帖数: 10098
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来自主题: Boston版 - 发现富人一个避税妙招 (转载)
I will show you the Maths personally if you have the right state of mind.
Many people (especially men tend to act like this. I am not saying you or
anyone here in particular) tend to listen just for the purpose of nitpicking
any flaws in our demonstration (instead of absorbing the general idea) in
order to prove that they are smarter than the rest of us. I believe that
they are knowledgeable already.
The real smart people Don't think others are less smart.

hypothesis
T***a
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来自主题: Boston版 - 发现富人一个避税妙招 (转载)
I'll summarize for you:
the people who don't support your idea or agree with you, don't have the
right state of mind.
Since the real smart people don't think others are less smart, you must
think everybody else is smart too!

nitpicking
T******T
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来自主题: LosAngeles版 - 给divingbird的几句话
Discounting chamelon's own good looks, she's also one of the most networked
and resourceful photographer on the board when it comes to good looking
chicks. So to trash her on some nitpicking BS is quite unwise for some dude
on the hunt for his next victim. Oh well...
h***z
发帖数: 693
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来自主题: NewYork版 - 人生不如意,十有八九
Anyway, thanks for offering an ear.
But I dont like to share my depressing stories because;
1. there are people in much worse shape than I am, so I might look
condescending when my complaints sound like nitpicks to them
2. 99% of my audience will probably not give a damn to what i say
I DO like to meet new people when I am feeling blue. Listening to people
talking about their lives and knowing new things can give my brain a break.
y****i
发帖数: 17878
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来自主题: SanDiego版 - 今天有点闲--饭盒+食谱
not nitpicking, but garlic and white radish for lunch at work? probably not
the best choice
e*******e
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来自主题: Utah版 - 土特产
Not to be nitpicking. Beehive came from the initial state name "Deseret",
and have not much to do with honey. It rather reflects Mormon's view of
their perseverance, thrift spirit, like worker bees.
http://www.netstate.com/states/intro/ut_intro.htm
The Beehive State
Most of the nicknames associated with Utah are related to the members of The
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or Mormons, that first settled
in the territory. Deseret, in The Book of Mormon is actually a honeybee.
Early M... 阅读全帖
A*****a
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来自主题: Basketball版 - 裁判过分
nitpicking
p*********e
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"
Kobe Bryant
He trains harder and longer than anyone else in the NBA
MF: Can you give us some insight into your training routine, both off-season
and during the season?
Kobe: During the season, I focus a lot on weight training, obviously
building up my strength level as the season progresses. In the off-season,
it's about getting stronger as well, more agile. Also, conditioning plays an
important part in that, because you want to make sure you come into the
upcoming season in tip-top shape. The... 阅读全帖
M****o
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来自主题: Basketball版 - McGrady contributes mainly in Spurs practices
MIAMI — The New York Times News Service
Published Monday, Jun. 10 2013, 8:01 PM EDT
Last updated Monday, Jun. 10 2013, 8:02 PM EDT
Tracy McGrady’s sleepy eyes always belied his explosive first step and
premier skills. But injury and erosion awakened him to the fickle realities
of fate and left observers wondering if the eyes have turned from sleepy to
sad.
McGrady, 34, would most likely have been in decline at this point in his
preps-to-pros career no matter what, having entered the NBA in 1997.... 阅读全帖
o****u
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来自主题: Basketball版 - nba球探眼光很准
但是科比也确实很努力。
I played against and watched Kobe Bryant at Lower Merion and in summer
leagues so I might know a little.
Strengths- Kobe's number one stregth is his maturity. He is a lot more
mature than a lot of the college players and some NBA players as well.
This is a huge asset because he isn't going into this without thinking
like some people might think. Extremely intelligent player and student.
Sees the floor very well because of his height and is an excellent
finisher. Knows the game ... 阅读全帖
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