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b********n
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America’s Deadliest Export: Democracy
Every year the American historian William Blum publishes his "updated
summary of the record of US foreign policy" which shows that, since 1945,
the US has tried to overthrow more than 50 governments, many of them
democratically elected; grossly interfered in elections in 30 countries;
bombed the civilian populations of 30 countries; used chemical and
biological weapons; and attempted to assassinate foreign leaders.
In many cases Britain has been a collaborat... 阅读全帖
x****y
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来自主题: Military版 - A chessboard drenched in blood
By Pepe Escobar
"The intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy." Everyone
remembers the Downing Street Memo, which unveiled the Bush/Blair "policy" in
the run-up to the 2003 bombing/invasion/occupation of Iraq. The "policy"
was to get rid of Saddam Hussein via a lightning war. The justification was
"terrorism" and (non-existent) weapons of mass destruction (WMD), which had
"disappeared", mounted in trucks, deep into Syria. Forget about intelligence
and facts.
The tragedy of MH17 ... 阅读全帖
b********n
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Ex-NSA Director, US Intelligence Veterans Write Open Letter To Merkel To
Avoid All-Out Ukraine War
Warning Merkel on Russian ‘Invasion’ Intel
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/09/01/warning-merkel-on-russian-
Consider Iraq today. Worse than catastrophic. Although President Vladimir
Putin has until now showed considerable reserve on the conflict in the
Ukraine, it behooves us to remember that Russia, too, can "shock and awe."
In our view, if there is the slightest chance of that kind of thing
eventu... 阅读全帖
w*********r
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西乌现在需要的是姿态,而不是协议,所以第一时间抛出了 reached a permanent
cease-fire agreement with Russian President Vladimir Putin,但没有任何实质内
容。俄罗斯立刻回应7 points plan,是否停火要以西乌会不会同意,现在的情况是等
待西乌的回答。
目前,NATO在开会,还没有决定。西乌还在等指示。一方面表示要停火,一方面又留下
不同意俄罗斯plan的机会。
俄罗斯也不傻,把期限定在了星期五。NATO会议结束后一天。之前,反叛军还可以继续
扩大战果,之后,看是否能达成协议。
b********n
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Russian General Calls for Preemptive Nuclear Strike Doctrine Against NATO
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/506370.html
A Russian general has called for Russia to revamp its military doctrine,
last updated in 2010, to clearly identify the U.S. and its NATO allies as
Moscow's enemy number one and spell out the conditions under which Russia
would launch a preemptive nuclear strike against the 28-member military
alliance, Interfax reported Wednesday.
Russia's military doctrine, a strategy docum... 阅读全帖
b********n
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-us-nato-preemptive-nuclear-doc
The controversial NATO sponsored report entitled “Towards a Grand Strategy
for an Uncertain World: Renewing Transatlantic Partnership“. calls for a
first strike use of nuclear weapons. The preemptive use of nukes would also
be used to undermine an “increasingly brutal World” as well as a means to
prevent the use of weapons of mass destruction:
“They [the authors of the report] consider that nuclear war might soon
become possible in ... 阅读全帖
s*****e
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/31/british-army-fac
British army creates team of Facebook warriors
The British army is creating a special force of Facebook warriors, skilled
in psychological operations and use of social media to engage in
unconventional warfare in the information age.
The 77th Brigade, to be based in Hermitage, near Newbury, in Berkshire, will
be about 1,500-strong and formed of units drawn from across the army. It
will formally come into being in April.
The brigade ... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - Here's what is going to happen in Ukraine
"Although Americans with a taste for Imperial Washington would dispute the
Russians right to take any action at all should Washington begin a renewed
arms shipment to Kiev's Junta Government, I think there is an argument to
made fo their taking some counter action. There was an elected government in
Kiev, put there in an election all international election monitors agreed
was free, fair and open. Although the Priminester was elected, therre is no
doubt he was mega corrupt, but so was the governm... 阅读全帖
w*********r
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Marko Djurica/Reuters Russian soldiers The Baltic states are becoming
increasingly unnerved by the growing number of Russian military drills close
to their borders, Damien Sharkov of Newsweek reports,
Since the start of the Ukrainian crisis, Russia has been staging military
drills close to the Baltic regions at an increasingly common pace.
Martin Hurt, the deputy director of Estonia's International Centre for
Defense and Security, believes that the increased frequency of the drills
is meant to... 阅读全帖
b********n
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Text of Barack Obama Nobel Prize acceptance lecture
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/12/barack-obama
Barack Obama Nobel Prize Acceptance Text, as prepared for delivery and
provided by the White House
"A Just and Lasting Peace"
Your Majesties, Your Royal Highnesses, Distinguished Members of the
Norwegian Nobel Committee, citizens of America, and citizens of the world:
I receive this honor with deep gratitude and great humility. It is an award
that speaks to our highest aspirations ... 阅读全帖
b********n
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从一开始就看出来了
Breedlove's Bellicosity: Berlin Alarmed by Aggressive NATO Stance on Ukraine
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/germany-concerned-abo
German leaders in Berlin were stunned. They didn't understand what Breedlove
was talking about. And it wasn't the first time. Once again, the German
government, supported by intelligence gathered by the
Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), Germany's foreign intelligence agency, did
not share the view of NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR).
W******i
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ISIS and Taliban Have Announced Jihad Against Each Other
Pushkar Kumar
Apr 21, 2015
Featured
Posted: April 21, 2015 at 4:54 pm
It can’t be more disastrous than this, when two biggest terrorists
organization Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and Afghan Taliban declares
Jihad against each other.
Recently, ISIS leader Abu-Al-Baghdadi has called Afghan Taliban leader
Mullah Omar, fool and an illiterate warlord, according to Liveleak.
According to Liveleak story, ISIS leader Al-Baghdadi has also claime... 阅读全帖
s*****e
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"Senior NATO official tells ex-NSA intel analyst; "We'll probably be at war
this summer, hopefully it won't be nuclear.""
http://www.infowars.com/senior-nato-official-well-probably-be-a
b*****d
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中新网6月1日电 据“中央社”报道,英国政府计划再删减国防预算,美国国防部长
卡特呼吁英国,遵守北大西洋公约组织对国防预算的规定,称删减国防预算将使英国与
国际脱节。
英国陆军正规军人数正在进行20%的人员删减计划,从2010年的10.2万人减到2020
年的8.2万人,预备役人数则由2.4万人增加到3万人。
英国皇家海军人数与皇家空军都将减少5000名正规军,预备役人数则增加500人。
根据北大西洋公约组织(NATO)的规定,各会员国国防预算必须占国内生产毛额(GDP
)的2%,但英国政府计划进一步删减军费,可能无法达到这个目标。
卡特称,英国一直以来都很有影响力,如果不遵守NATO的2%国防预算目标,英国在
国际事务的参与将会脱节,对全球是很大的损失。
英国国会议员及军事将领之前已陆续警告,国防预算若再删减,将影响英国的国防
安全。
n*********a
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来自主题: Military版 - 解放军发动台海之战后的结局
1) 提供武器,提供卫星、预警指挥等c4istar支撑的概率是100%
2) 无所谓。不care棒子国
3) 瞎搞。让日本出人美国也不会出人,除非NATO全上来围殴土鳖,美国才会出人
4) 更是瞎搞。岛屿作战,有marine参战也没army参战的份。
5) 6)上面说过,除非NATO全上来围殴土鳖,美国才会出人
h**o
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http://newsblog.chinatimes.com/duduong/cn/archive/36718
2015-08-08 22:25
航空与半导体并列为21世纪美国制造业的两颗闪亮明珠,所以美国空军近年的武器採购
史没有陆军那么悲催,尤其是Boeing一直到最近十几年才开始严重腐化(最知名的案子
是2003年的加油机案,Boeing买通了国防部的一个文职官僚,叫Darleen Druyun,得以
用高价赢得好几个合约),777以及更早的各式大飞机都已成熟,改装的工作量很小,
所以毛病还不显着;但是其他的公司就不一定有同样的技术水准,其中最大的问题企业
首推Lockheed。
我们从F-22谈起吧。它的最早起源点是1981年的Advanced Tactical Fighter(先进战
术战机)竞赛,其目标是在冷战背景下设计一架能在中欧上空轻易猎杀大量Mig-29的隐
身战机。Lockheed玩弄了很多把戏(主要是把YF-22画得很传统很漂亮,却没有做真正
的工程验证工作,然后凭空编出在性能和风险上的优势;换句话说,就是公关主导工程
)打败了竞争对手(主要是YF-23),成为主... 阅读全帖
j*******e
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来自主题: Military版 - 俄国反应-华邮
He called the Turkish response a “stab in the back by the accomplices of
terrorists” — an apparent reference to Turkish-supported rebel forces
fighting Assad.
“Today’s tragic cases will have significant consequences for the relations
between Russia and Turkey,” Putin told reporters after talks with Jordan’
s King Abdullah II, whose nation is part of the U.S.-led coalition.
Putin claimed that Turkey “immediately turned to its partners from NATO to
discuss this incident as though it was us who dow... 阅读全帖
b***2
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来自主题: Military版 - 北约支持土耳其
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_125052.htm?utm_source=fb
会议结束,发言人说As we have repeatedly made clear, we stand in solidarity
with Turkey and support the territorial integrity of our NATO Ally, Turkey.
d*********2
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欧洲一直对火鸡不信任。 虽然进入了nato, 但是一直努力进入欧盟不得。
今年10月, 美国还把火鸡南边的爱国者都撤掉,防止被火鸡利用。
现在nato是在死撑面子。 自从911以后, 美国军方一直把穆斯林当成最大的潜在敌人

火鸡现在的总统太绿了, 老美很顾忌
s******a
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来自主题: Military版 - 俄罗斯就这种水准
扭腰时报上,网友评论,点赞最多的头两条,如何把火鸡剔除我们北约啊
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/world/europe/turkey-syria-rus
Donriver Toronto 18 hours ago
Turkey should be expelled from NATO post haste. As an enabler and
sympathizer of ISIL, and oppressor of our Kurdish friends and allies, it is
turning into a pariah state. Don't let it drag the West into war with Russia
. (And don't forget: it still won't acknowledge the Armenian Genocide.)
FlagReply 1331Recommend Share this comment on FacebookShare this comment on
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j***h
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做为近几十年来唯一一个敢主动攻击俄毛的主权国家,土鸡有guts,要坑NATO的节奏。
希望NATO跟俄毛大干一场,以解南海之围
r******9
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There was nothing!
Russian co-pilot: No warning before Turkey downed plane
Is this the end of NATO?
NATO survived Cold War, but downed Russian fighter provides biggest threat
World War III?
Assad only winner after Russian jet downed
Range of Frustrations Reached Boil as Turkey Shot Down Russian Jet
w********t
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How Turkey Exports ISIS Oil To The World: The Scientific Evidence



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来自主题: Military版 - 安培:日本申请加入北约
查了一下新闻,发现下面这个。德国老太婆威武。
BELGRADE – German Chancellor Angela Merkel unexpectedly proposed that Japan
join the NATO alliance during a dinner meeting with Japanese Prime Minister
last March, The Yomiuri Shimbun newspaper reported on Saturday.
“Shinzo, why not join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?” Merkel
asked Abe.
“I can convince British Prime Minister Cameron and French President
Hollande,” she added.
The Yomiuri Shimbun reports that a surprised Abe replied, “Maybe in the
future,” in the kn... 阅读全帖
d**0
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来自主题: Military版 - 偷窃F-22发动机的民族英雄
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/06/16/woman-20-years-export-f-35-f-22-engines-china/#conversation
j2bin
1 Day Ago
Do what China does to spies -- give the culprit the maximum, death or a life
sentence!
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djk
djk
1 Day Ago
Why 20 years...I say hang her. TRAITOR
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kelvin
kelvin
1 Day Ago
@djk
burnn the fker to death
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Vi Boss
Vi Boss
1 Day Ago
20 years? Why not execute this chinese rat like we did with the russian
spies?
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FOXSUX
FOXSUX
1 Day Ago
If China thinks ... 阅读全帖
b********n
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German minister warns Nato against 'warmongering'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36566422
German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier has warned Nato against "
warmongering", after it conducted military exercises in Eastern Europe.
b********n
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NATO is pissing in Russia's salad and has been for years
Russia might not be a saint but I'll be damned If It isn't fucking NATO's
fault West-Russia relations have gone to shit
h******k
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戴高乐非正式退出了NATO,直到2009年才重新恢复与NATO的全面关系。
b********n
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波兰是NATO成员,美国也是NATO成员,美军进驻波兰顺理成章。
g**1
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纽约时报:西方警惕俄罗斯RT新闻网宣传攻势
分享到:11
2017-03-12 09:17:50字号:A- A A+来源:观察者网
关键字: 俄罗斯今日俄罗斯RT俄罗斯宣传攻势西方话语权软实力
【观察者网 综合报道】西方曾因垄断话语权,软实力独占鳌头而沾沾自喜,但英国脱
欧、特朗普当选美国总统、欧洲极右翼势力兴起等等事件,给这种乐观的情绪画上了句
号。
西方变得不自信,比如《纽约时报》刊文称,要警惕老对手俄罗斯媒体“今日俄罗斯”
(RT)新闻网的宣传攻势,认为RT是隐蔽的假信息宣传的核心,传播对民主制度的怀疑
,破坏西方的稳定,削弱对北约(NATO)和已知世界的信心,争夺金融、政治和媒体影
响力。
但俄罗斯坚称,RT不过是一个全球性的新闻网络,不过是提供了对西方主导的新闻媒体
的“不同看法”,把RT提供“主流媒体之外的观点”的行动与虚假新闻与社交媒体宣传
现象混为一谈实在荒谬。
原文如下:
伦敦——电视频道和网站RT以前叫做《今日俄罗斯》(Russia Today),它在伦敦的新
闻室和制作间采用超现代风格,空间宽敞,而且位置在16楼,窗外景色壮观,可以俯瞰
泰晤士河与伦敦眼。其伦敦分... 阅读全帖
b********n
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40102903
Kabul bomb: Diplomatic zone attack kills dozens
7 minutes ago
From the section Asia
Civilians were said to be the main casualties
A powerful vehicle bomb has hit the diplomatic area of the Afghan capital,
Kabul, killing at least 80 people and injuring 350.
It struck close to the German embassy in Zanbaq Square, with civilians said
to be the main casualties.
The morning rush-hour blast was so strong it blew out windows and doors
hundreds of metres awa... 阅读全帖
O**********g
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这一点属实,如果NATO解散,美元应该直接就崩盘了,美国其实比西欧更需要NATO
b********n
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: USANews
标 题: 战争狂人John McCain鼓吹战争的历史
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 22 23:49:04 2017, 美东)
A History Of John McCain’s Calls For War
http://geopoliticsalert.com/history-john-mccain-war
Afghanistan and Iraq
Obviously every US senator (besides California’s Barbara Lee) voted to give
president George W. Bush the power to invade Afghanistan following the
events of September 11th. However, McCain wasn’t happy with just moving to
invade A... 阅读全帖
z****g
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来自主题: Military版 - unidentified_title
议会可以投票退出NATO啊,你不退NATO当然得履行成员国义务。
s***h
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来自主题: Military版 - 一般的枪 能打到32层吗?
这是土鳖高原射表的土性搞法 。。。 5.56 NATO 确实风偏厉害,但 7.62 NATO / .
308 就行了,往高处打,选高枪口速度的稍轻弹,弹道特性好一些 。。。 .50 可能有
点 overkill 。。。 关键是马工弹道计算。
c*********d
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来自主题: Military版 - 大王巡山
大王巡山
大王巡山
自2009年88事件以来,和平了二十年的中缅边境地区战火再起,冲突造成的伤亡和不断
涌现的难民让媒体开始关注起这个被遗忘的邻国。当媒体对双方轻武器报道时,当地自
制的各型武器让人眼花缭乱,本站为规范中文名称,特推出此专栏,以飨读者。
(缅甸阅兵式中的MA-1 MKIII步枪,常被误认为是QBZ97步枪)
关于缅甸轻武器的信息,就算是权威军事栏目资料也寥寥无几,再加上互联网信息混杂
,使得引用时名称容易混淆,国内著名军事杂志《轻兵器》2010年1月刊中引用了美国
《Small Arms Review》中关于缅甸轻武器的文章,但文中依然有不足之处,现以此文
为基础,对缅甸轻武器进行一番深入了解。
缅甸刚独立时,使用的枪支大多是英军制式,如恩菲尔德步枪、司登冲锋枪、布伦轻机
枪等,至今仍可在缅甸警察队伍中见到老式的马蒂尼-亨利步枪。
(前一至前三分别为BA52冲锋枪、马蒂尼-亨利步枪、BA63步枪)
后来陆续从外国获得军事援助,开始自行生产,起初命名规则为BA(Burma Army)+年份
后两位,如从意大利获得的在二战末期为保卫法西斯政权研制的TZ-45冲锋枪生产许可
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b********n
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: USANews
标 题: 荣跑:What the FBI/FISA Memo Really Tells Us About Our Government
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Feb 5 21:17:28 2018, 美东)
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/february/05/what-the-fbifisa-memo-really-tells-us-about-our-government/
First, the memo demonstrates that there is a “deep state” that does not
want things like elections to threaten its existence. Candidate Trump’s
repeated promises to get... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Military版 - 中国的生活会受什么影响
As long as China Russia Iran and North Korea are united , the other NATO
countries and devil USA must be paper tiger. Fighting against one of them
seously can make the other NATO members run away.
This is to say "everybody is afraid of someone who are not dare to lose his
life "
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - “law firms”
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/why-the-empire-never-sleeps-the-indispensable-nation-folly-part-1/
Why The Empire Never Sleeps: The Indispensable Nation Folly
Profile picture for user Tyler Durden
by Tyler Durden
Like the case of Rome before it, the Empire is bankrupting America. The true
fiscal cost is upwards of $1.o trillion per year (counting $200 billion for
veterans and debt service for wars), but there is no way to pay for it.
That’s because the 78-million strong Baby Boom is in the... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: Military版 - 中美冷战,香港怎办?
作者: 练乙铮
(中美贸易战开打了,大家都想知道“下一步”是什么,最后鹿死谁手、怎样收场。这
是连专家也不一定说得准的问题;毕竟,这样大规模的贸易战自二战结束以来就不曾发
生过。要好好明白这场经济博弈,恐怕要从国际政治入手。近日在外交关系圈子里讨论
得很热烈的另一话题——冷战是否重临,是一个很好的切入点。本文主要谈“二次冷战
”诸问题;关于贸易战本身,留待下一次讨论。)
今年1月19日,美国国防部发表了《2018年国防策略》(下称《策略》)的节本,开头
第二段列出威胁美国国安的五个对手,依次是中、俄、北韩、伊朗及以ISIS为首的诸恐
怖组织。跟着,它先中后俄把这两国归在一组,统称为“修正主义国家”,意指两国一
面积极利用西方国家自由开放所提供的好处,一面透过军事投资和扩张企图推翻现存的
国际秩序。报告并指出,中俄这两个修正主义国家已经取代恐怖主义组织,成为了对美
国乃至对当今世界秩序的头号威胁。
这是美国近20年来全球策略思维的一个根本性转变。
特朗普不似人君,当总统有严重利益冲突,推政策粗枝大叶,经常互相矛盾,但整体而
言讲得通。他的内政有两个面向。一是经济固本培元,大幅减税活化本国... 阅读全帖
s***c
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你是不是傻?德国本来就经济上统一欧洲了,美国再退出NATO,你这是Make
Deutschland Great Again!
[在 Supercell (wsn) 的大作中提到:]
:太简单。NATO费用由欧盟100%付出,否则2019年1月1日美国退群。
:从道理上,整别人不好,但咱自己不玩永远说得过去对吧。

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当年苏联太强,欧洲被二战炸平了,才需要NATO。现在俄国没有那么强,德国也不需要
那么扶持。NATO意义没有那么大。
让德国俄国伟大去呗。没有美国,欧洲国家就互相怼了。这根中东一样。美国掺和,就
一致怼美国。美国走人,两伊打,沙特打,叙利亚打,各种drama。
g******t
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来自主题: Military版 - 川普确实够二的,
看看老美的发言:
There are no "friends" in the Trump worldview, only competitors and foes,
and everything is zero sum (literally).
I'm quite serious, the only way to understand what he is doing is to try to
contort your brain to think like that. For example, these trade wars are "
easy to win" because he has the simple view that deficit == bad, surplus ==
good. So we can't lose in his mind by blowing trade up, the worst case
scenario (theoretically) is that we go from big deficits to zero deficits if
al... 阅读全帖
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主要是他愚蠢,看看老美的发言:
There are no "friends" in the Trump worldview, only competitors and foes,
and everything is zero sum (literally).
I'm quite serious, the only way to understand what he is doing is to try to
contort your brain to think like that. For example, these trade wars are "
easy to win" because he has the simple view that deficit == bad, surplus ==
good. So we can't lose in his mind by blowing trade up, the worst case
scenario (theoretically) is that we go from big deficits to zero deficit... 阅读全帖
b********n
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Ex-NATO Supreme Allied Commander @GeneralClark: "I'm very concerned" about
the US withdrawal from Syria because "there doesn't seem to be any strategic
rationale for the decision."
"Did Erdogan blackmail the president? Was there a payoff is or something?"
https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/1077194141501542401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%
7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1077194141501542401&ref_url=https%3A%2F%
2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fnews%2F2018-12-24%2Fex-nato-commander-wesley-clark-cnn
-did-erdogan-black... 阅读全帖
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 永久战争:国会禁止北约退出
NATO = another .gov program designed to funnel vast amounts of American Tax
Payer dollars to the NATO Parasites and various multi-national corporations.
c*****r
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英国是303口径
春田,格兰特是30-06,但不是308,308的子弹放不进去的。
M-14是308,或NATO 7.62x51。
AR-15是223,或NATO 5.56x45, 这已经不是30口径了。
f******o
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来自主题: Military版 - french toast
Trump slams France’s Macron in London for ‘very nasty’ ‘brain death’
NATO quoteFRENCH ROAST
Trump slams France’s Macron in London for ‘very nasty’ ‘brain death’
NATO quote
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