e******e
发帖数: 98 | 1 You do not have a mind because you cannot even make a point.
understand |
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m********l
发帖数: 491 | 2 拿2-14和11-5来比没有什么说服力。有人已经提过，11-5有水分，毕竟打的是两个最弱
的分区，而且拍子对其他AFC分区的头名都输了。2-14更有水分，是否suck for luck见
仁见智，但猪头小队长早就应该知道自己会是替罪羊，从教练到队员已无心恋战。不否
认PM起的作用的确大，但第二年LUCK来了后立刻把2-14带到季后赛，按你说他的ROOKIE
SEASON就可以和PM 比肩，》TB了。当然你也可以话风一转，说这是换教练的功劳。但
现在大家都能看到，小队长的水平在乌鸦和狮子也是证明过的。说到最后，我也不指望
说服你，但今时今日，无论TB是否GOAT，起码他可以和蒙大拿比较。而无论PM常规赛数
据多漂亮，他在季后赛和SB的表现，不足以和TB相提并论。 |
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发帖数: 28835 | 3 Tom Brady根本不算goat， 在对阵乌鸦的比赛（基本都是主场），他的表现都落后于
Joe Flacco（2011，2012， 甚至2014的季后赛）。 如果Tom brady能比肩Joe Montana
， 那把Joe cool排在什么位置了？ |
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g*******s
发帖数: 2828 | 4 这么伟大的qb 为什么总是客场打季后赛 一定是防守没有名人堂队友压阵。
Montana |
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g*******s
发帖数: 2828 | 5 还好季后赛是2～2
2014还比不上flacco 是因为一个TD 是edelman 扔的 还是flacco 多扔了一个int?
Montana |
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e******e
发帖数: 98 | 6 Did you even watch the game? The key was Lane's injury after he intercepted
TB's ball. Patriots then targeted Lane's replacement Tharold Simon
repeatedly, including two TDs and a one long pass that set up a third TD, a
whopping 28% of all passing yards. A second key was Avril's injury, which
make Seahawks lost passing pressure on TB. You know what it means when a QB
plays without passing pressure. In fact, TB was touched only 7 times in 50
passing plays in this game. Imagine you give PM this kin... 阅读全帖 |
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e******e
发帖数: 98 | 7 I do not buy Colts lost intentionally for Luck, because it was not the best
interests of the coaches and players, even the managers in this case knowing
they could lose their jobs.
If you say Luck is better than TB, and I have no problem with that
assessment. If you put Luck in TB's position, Patriots could have more than
one ring now.
You can compare Montana with any QB. But compare on what, the number of
rings? One thing for sure is that neither won the rings on their own. And
what fractions o... 阅读全帖 |
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m********l
发帖数: 491 | 8 好了，和你没有讨论的必要了。你甚至认为（请注意，我原文中是写“按你的说法”，
免得你再这搞文字游戏），LUCK的ROOKIE SEASON已经超过TB。这种双眼一闭的汤黑，
嘿嘿
best
knowing
than
can |
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e******e
发帖数: 98 | 9 Didn't Patriots play illegal tricks that fooled the referees to win the game
? One has to admire the creativity of Dr. Belichick, and the loop-hole
digging, borderline crossing, catch-me-if-you-can culture that he cultivate
in Patriots' mind. |
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l****o
发帖数: 942 | 10 illegal tricks?
靠, 说了半天这么热闹原来是个球盲。
你也应该先去学一下rulebook.
现在是不是不看比赛只看高光和小道新闻的大妈都来这儿了
game
cultivate |
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l****o
发帖数: 942 | 11 if, if if...
if you put a dog as Colts qb, Colts could have won more super bowls
what you said is as meaningless as this.
best
knowing
than
can |
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e******e
发帖数: 98 | 12 I said Luck could do Brady's job, you added a dog could do better than Luck.
So what you really want to say is that a dog is better than Brady? Man, you
are truly a hidden, advanced, Brady heater. |
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a*****y
发帖数: 613 | 13 这是一个jets fan，鉴定完毕。
intercepted
a
QB
Even |
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B*****u
发帖数: 17 | 14 Shut the F up dude. Don't do wrong to Jets fans. This idiot resides in GA. |
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g*******4
发帖数: 1889 | 15 I am by no means a TB fan or someone of any sort to initiate a GOAT
discussion. But your idea of comparing two QBs by comparing them with their
replacement seems a little off. Tebow and Cassel, as the basis of your
comparison, are two completely different QB, in style and capability. |
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g**********d
发帖数: 199 | 16 你只看见这些大胜,没有看到其他的艰苦反败为胜?不然Joe的外号"the come back kid"
怎么来的?
就是这些blow out里面,赢的轻松就是对方不行了?
1981–1983
Montana began the 1981 season as San Francisco's starting quarterback. The
season ended up as one of the franchise's most successful seasons to that
point. Backed in part by Montana's strong performance at quarterback, the
team finished the regular season with a 13–3 record. In fact, Montana
helped San Francisco win two of those games with fourth-quarter comebacks.
The season was a precursor to one of ... 阅读全帖 |
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z******n
发帖数: 1223 | 17 五年前NFL film排史上100大球员，连默片时代的都算上了：达摩排在了莫大（拿）后面
还有很多有争议的选择，一时间江湖上一片血雨腥风～～
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81bdbf97/article/what-do-
100-Joe Namath - QB
99 - Michael Strahan - DE
98 - Lee Roy Selmon - DE
97 - Derrick Brooks - LB
96 - Mel Hein - C
95 - Larry Allen - OL
94 - Lenny Moore - RB
93 - Sam Huff - LB
92 - Michael Irvin - WR
91 - Fran Tarkenton - QB
90 - Kurt Warner - QB
89 - Ernie Nevers - FB
88 - Ed Reed - S
87 - Elroy Hirsch - WR
86 - Willie Davis - DE
85 - Marcus Allen - RB
84 - Joe... 阅读全帖 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 18
要James Harrison这样在第一线肉搏的3-4 blitzing LB跑一百码
等于要咱中年猥琐男跑个马拉松一样的要命
TD得分后的下一个镜头
就是他在场边两眼翻直口吐白沫抱着氧气筒急救
另外 不要只赞美大豪门痞子堡 红鸟的历史其实更悠久 也很多故事......
发信人: BigBlue (#15), 信区: Football
标 题: 这红鸟骨子里就是个大烂队
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Mar 3 23:22:26 2009)
建队快90年了，一向的传统就是贱，小气，窝囊，输球也就是理所当然的了。
想来以后也不会有人为这个队喝彩，转译SI这篇文字，大家看清楚这个球队的德性。
** 这个球队的出身就很邪恶:
1905年芝加哥的一个体育俱乐部分裂成两部分,
其中一派给著名的匪帮头子Al Capone做打手去了;
另外一派，后来就成了这个红鸟橄榄球球会,
早期比赛的观众席里就有很多Al Capone的爪牙。
** 在芝加哥他们被同城的狗熊欺负，搬到圣路易斯又被棒球的红鸟压着，
才又搬到亚利桑那，就根本没有人理睬了。
有时候他们的球员下馆子吃饭看... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****h
发帖数: 44903 | 19 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
siriusliu (天狼) 于 (Wed Oct 9 01:51:59 2013, 美东) 提到:
跟lp普及，聊起QB物以类聚，人以群分。跟大家分享，同求指教。
第一群，也是第一档，四大HOFer，菜鼻猪龙。ring也有，常规赛mvp也有（猪是例外，
但是N次前三，多次第二，而且是差不多可以并列第一的第二，算成mvp也没有问题）。
总之，无需再证明什么，HOF没跑。剩下的就是如何reinforce legacy。
第二群，小白菜，大本，伊力特。有运气也有心脏。有ring。但是从未常规赛打出mvp
水准。问题，这三人有无可能混进hof？多半没戏，但是有无可能？
第三群，麻软，小河，肉末，微克，杰小卡，四大夫，纱布。常规赛有过出色数据跟战
绩，也混了大合同，也算是franchise qb。但是从未季后赛证明自己。也老大不小了，
基本不可能撞上狗屎运挤入第二群。
第四群，四大新人，运气，rw，ck，rg3。勉强可以加进牛顿。还年轻，一起都早。
luck有望进第一群，rw跟ck有望进第二群。rg3跟... 阅读全帖 |
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g******a
发帖数: 667 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 Football 讨论区,原文如下 】
发信人: gardenia (十六字令), 信区: Football
标 题: HOF QB and college
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Tue Oct 5 13:57:57 2004) WWW-POST
SEC and Big-10 got the most (5 each). Enough for the Pac-10 have the most star
quarterback talk.
SEC
Alabama: Joe Namath, Bart Starr
Kentucky: George Blanda
Georgia: Fran Tarkenton
LSU: Y. A. Tittle
Big 10
Purdue: Len Dawson, Bob Griese
Northwestern: Otto Graham, John Driscoll
Wisconsin: Arnie Herber
Pac-10
Stanford: John Elway
Oregon: Dan Fouts, |
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r**e
发帖数: 35 | 22 换点包子，钱都赌输了。
1.现在肯德基在SEC里面很生猛，他们上次进主要的bowl game是什么时候呢，Bear
Bryant曾经带着他们进过49和50年的sugar跟orange bowl。
2.Bear Bryant在bama的第一年只有5-4-1的成绩，但是第二年就7-2-2进了bowl game，
最重要的，开始打败auburn了，当时6年之中的首胜。现在bama也连输了auburn 5年，
saban开始接手bama，啧啧...
3.67年的cotton bowl bama输了，指挥的人是bryant的副手stalling，后来这家伙将功
赎罪赢了92年的冠军。
4.64年bama输了bowl game但是得到了总冠军，66年全胜，但还是没拿到冠军也没去冠
军bowl。
5.64年冠军队的quarterback Joe Namath进了NFL以后很狂傲的说他一定在69年的
Superbowl里面击败Don Shula的Colts，结果真做到了，Don Shula恨之入骨，不过他儿
子Mike Shula不但是bama的quarterback，还是教练，被炒了而已。
6.上个 |
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b***n
发帖数: 1210 | 23 The compiles answer:
Alabama: 3 (4 SBs total)
Bart Starr (I, II, both MVP)
Joe Namath (III)
Ken Stabler (XI)
Notre Dame: 2 (5 SBs total)
Joe Montana (XVI, XIX, XXIII, XXIV, 3 MVPs)
Joe Theismann (XVII)
BYU: 2 (5 SBs total)
Jim McMahon (XX, XXXI)
Steve Young (XXIII, XXIV, XXIX, 1 MVP)
Stanford: 2 (4 SBs total)
Jim Plunkett(XV, XVIII, 1 MVP)
John Elway (XXXII, XXXIII, 1 MVP)
Purdue: 2 (3 SBs total)
Len Dawson (IV, MVP)
Bob Griese (VI, VII) |
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B****2
发帖数: 8892 | 24 人家贴了一个“College teams with alumni scoring Super Bowl touchdowns”的帖
子，看了半天，没有一个和Alabam有关的，作为BAMA饭很没面子。苦思敏想、茶饭不进
，终于找到了一组能多少令人欣慰的统计数据。尽管BAM不是最强的，但好在露个脸，
感觉这个挺有代表性，估计大十、太10的饭也会高兴，贴出来和大家分享。
Southern California (11)
Notre Dame (10)
Michigan (8)
Alabama (7)
Ohio State (7)
Syracuse (7)
Illinois (6)
Minnesota (6)
Oregon (6)
Pittsburgh (6)
Alabama (7) John Hannah , Don Hutson , Joe Namath , Ozzie Newsome , Bart
Starr , Dwight Stephenson , Derrick Thomas
Alabama A&M (1) John Stallworth
Alma College (1) G |
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B****2
发帖数: 8892 | 26 从rivals.com上考来的：
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AnY9ScmYrYLEHFf
This will be the first Super Bowl since the 1997 season in which neither of
the starting quarterbacks will be making his Super Bowl debut.
In Super Bowl XXXII, Denver’s John Elway and Green Bay’s Brett Favre were
the starters. This season, it’s New England’s Tom Brady and the New York
Giants’ Eli Manning.
Brady can give Michigan its fourth win by a quarterback alum in the Super
Bowl; the most for any school is Notre... 阅读全帖 |
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p**x
发帖数: 6614 | 27 SEC的
Cam Newton
Matt Stafford
Jay Culter
其他虽然比较弱，但是以前也经常start比赛的Jason Campbell，毛人等等，要是追述
历史，那就更多了Bart Starr, Joe Namath, Ken Stabler |
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T*****y
发帖数: 802 | 29 1-Notre Dame - 513 NFL players all-time (11 Hall of Famers... Paul Hornung,
Nick Bouniconti, Dave Casper)
2-USC - 438 ex. Trojans went to the NFL (11 made it to the Hall of Fame...
Marcus Allen, Frank Gifford, Ronnie Lott, O.J. Simpson, Lynn Swann, Ron Yary)
3-Ohio State -378 players to the NFL (6 in Hall of Fame... Lou Groza, Dick
LeBeau, Paul Warfield, Jim Parker, Bill Willis)
4-Michigan - 332 players to the NFL (6 in Hall of Fame)
5-Penn State - 325 in the NFL (5 in Hall of Fame... Jack Ham, ... 阅读全帖 |
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b****a
发帖数: 4465 | 30 11. Stanford – 2
John Elway – Super Bowl XXXIII
Jim Plunkett – Super Bowl XV
10. Purdue – 2
Drew Brees – Super Bowl XLIV
Len Dawson – Super Bowl IV
9. Ole Miss – 2
Eli Manning – Super Bowl XLII, XLVI
8. Miami – 2
Ray Lewis – Super Bowl XXXV
Ottis Anderson – Super Bowl XXV
7. Louisiana Tech – 2
Terry Bradshaw – Super Bowl XIII, XIV
6. Florida State – 2
Dexter Jackson – Super Bowl XXXVII
Fred Biletnikoff – Super Bowl XI
5. USC – 3
Marcus Allen – Super Bowl X
Lynn Swann – Super Bowl XVIII
Malcolm S... 阅读全帖 |
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f**********g
发帖数: 2252 | 31 来自主题: _pennystock版 - SIRI SiriusXM Presents Comprehensive Coverage of Super Bowl XLV
28 minutes ago - PRN
PR NewswireSirius XM Radio (Nasdaq: SIRI), the Official Satellite Radio
Partner of the NFL, announced today that it will broadcast Super Bowl XLV in
10 languages, offering listeners 14 different live broadcasts plus a wide
mix of sports and entertainment programming from North Texas throughout
Super Bowl Week.
(Logo: http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnh/20101014/NY82093LOGO)
On Super Bowl Sunday, February 6 (6:00 pm ET)... 阅读全帖 |
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f**********g
发帖数: 2252 | 32 来自主题: _pennystock版 - SIRI SiriusXM Presents Comprehensive Coverage of Super Bowl XLV
28 minutes ago - PRN
PR NewswireSirius XM Radio (Nasdaq: SIRI), the Official Satellite Radio
Partner of the NFL, announced today that it will broadcast Super Bowl XLV in
10 languages, offering listeners 14 different live broadcasts plus a wide
mix of sports and entertainment programming from North Texas throughout
Super Bowl Week.
(Logo: http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnh/20101014/NY82093LOGO)
On Super Bowl Sunday, February 6 (6:00 pm ET)... 阅读全帖 |
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