A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 1 went to golfsmith here, it has indoor range with about 40 yards long.
hit few 6 irons, MP59 gave me the best feeling among all the clubs i tried.
guys from store told me, it is between MP53 and MP69.
since i am using MP52, (i bring in my own 6 iron), i compared MP52, MP53,
and MP59. MP52 and MP53 is about the same, and MP59 is much better.
not sure if it is worth to switch. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 3 yes. thx
now i changed to MP59 |
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 4 en, those are very sweet, I am using MP52 now which is very forgiving but
feel dull than my old MP57 which is harder to hit, I tried MP59 in the store
couple wks ago and it definitely get better of both feel and forgiveness,
the only thing is its expansive now. I am gonna wait next summer |
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u*********r
发帖数: 2735 | 5 I have a mp58 set, love it, mp59 is similar if not better.
super forgiving player irons. I never liked mp53. |
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O*****s
发帖数: 990 | 6 MP59和AP2是一个level的
MP69对应MB710
大。 |
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p****4
发帖数: 517 | 7 AP2 launch higher than MP58. Have yet tried MP59. MP are good irons. I use
AP2 because I can deloft the club and still get decent lift. |
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 8 MP 58 is actually 2 versions earlier the MP59.
Its like MP57-->MP52-->MP58-->MP53-->MP59.
I never play with MP58 but I heard the MP58 is one less popular set compare
with others. They have to reverse back to classic design to MP53 after that.
the new MP59 fixed something in MP58's design. if you wanna save several
hundreds MP53 is the best bet. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 9 上个月买杆的时候试过RBZ的铁杆
比我的MP52远很多，#6，#7大概平均远20码
不过感觉打起来没有MP59更Sweet
而 MP59比现在的MP52也远个10码
对我来说CONTROL更好
这个MP59到处好评如潮，准备明年开春去Custom Fit一套去。现在Taylormade的新铁杆
也正在造势，估计handicap 10 的人会很喜欢。taylormade的........
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 10 一直想直接升级到MP59, 结果前几周在golfwrx的buy/tade版看见一套几乎全新的demo
MP53价格不错 就拿下了。 SHAFT: dynamic S300 from titlist AP1. 比MIZUNO Stock
shaft 的长0.5 inch。
Driving range用了一周。 感觉sole变小了， address 的时候又回到了MP57的感觉。
更forgiving一些，击球继承了mizuno MP系列的感觉: cut butter. 距离远半杆的样子
， 应该是因为杆身长了。总之感觉不错， 虽然没上成MP59. 不过也给自己省了一个月
的的打球的钱。
另外，越来越觉得觉得golfwrx论坛的buy/tade版是个好地方。 器材狂人巨多。可以淘
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C******s
发帖数: 1917 | 11 Mp59是很好的杆，如果我现在换杆的话我也会上Mp59。
差。 |
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c**********e
发帖数: 276 | 12 A few weeks ago, after having played my first-set (practically) of irons (
MIZUNO MX 200) for one year, I decided to have a new set of irons in my bag.
Though MX200 is a good set of irons, and they work for me well. They
have the graphite shafts. I am trying to use long irons, but they feel a
little light. In addition, I would like to have a little more playability
for draw and fade. I wanted to test how steel shafts will work for me, and
develop a passion for new tools. My eyes were on ... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 13 haha, your words are very encouraging. you always gave others hopes to
become a scratch player. Now, I truly believe i can be one.
interestingly, same as LZ, I just switch my iron from MP52 to MP59. And got
a birdie with my new MP59 7iron from 144 yards out. not bad. |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 14 Nice birdie with your new MP59. There is no doubt that you have the
potential to become a scratch player. Switching to MP59 from MP52 should not
have a big impact of your ball striking. They are alike, kind of.
got |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 15 haha, your words are very encouraging. you always gave others hopes to
become a scratch player. Now, I truly believe i can be one.
interestingly, same as LZ, I just switch my iron from MP52 to MP59. And got
a birdie with my new MP59 7iron from 144 yards out. not bad. |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 16 Nice birdie with your new MP59. There is no doubt that you have the
potential to become a scratch player. Switching to MP59 from MP52 should not
have a big impact of your ball striking. They are alike, kind of.
got |
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c**********e
发帖数: 276 | 17 It seems that the new mp 64 is being highly rated as well. I looked the
mp64 in store, they look great. Just expensive at this time.
I hit the titleist ap2, to me, they feel best, but needs fitting for length
and lie angle. I can use the standard mp59 however. Ap2 is also expensive.
这个MP59到处好评如潮，准备明年开春去Custom Fit一套去。现在Taylormade的新铁杆
也正在造势，估计handicap 10 的人会很喜欢。taylormade的........ |
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t***m
发帖数: 51 | 18 不是谦虚。看大家的评价，MP59是款forgiving的iron。我的想法是买MP59的话头2，3
年甚至更长的时间里都不需要换club。 |
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u*********r
发帖数: 2735 | 19 did you try mp59, it's damn forgiving too |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 20 You meant MP-59, MP-53. I tried MP-58 and was comfortable with the short
irons, 7-PW. MP-59 should be similar to MP-58, but with a slight bigger club
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q***q
发帖数: 3356 | 21 买Mizuno之前也可以考虑试试Titleist，MB 710之类的。
我刚买了一套Titleist ZM，算给自己一个挑战。总体感觉Mizuno的手感非常轻盈，但
是好像甜蜜的有点不正常。Titleist的感觉好像要硬一点。另外跟shaft的关系也很大。 |
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 22 shaft matters a lot, sometime even more than the head. I tried some KBS
shaft compare with the DS300, KBS is a lot better.
大。 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 23 店里手感好， range/course 的效果一般也会好些, 提供solid hit 的反馈好一些。
好的iron set 帮助形成和保持好的动作。值得。
golfsmith 90 day exchange requires stocking fee? try golfmart w/o
stocking fee.
tried.
MP53, |
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q***q
发帖数: 3356 | 24 Be careful with Golfmart that they may offer only store credit. |
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l**********e
发帖数: 459 | 25 说的我心动了，原以为53， 59差不多。 感觉mizuno近来推出新杆的速度加快了。 |
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 26 MP53是好杆儿， 没啥必要换。
月初和一老头打，high 70杆的水平用mizuno mx200. 上个月和一小伙子打， low 70
水平用callaway x18。 俺90几水平用mp52. 跟他们请教，人说没啥铁杆用顺手最重要
。 不过他们的woods都不少钱， 一driver600多 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 27 yeah.
my buddy is playing mp68, man, i can not handle it at all.
stay in mp5s is a save choice. out of 5s, i like mp59 the best, even better
than my 52 |
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 28 我的现在差点22比你高得多. 一直用MP系列 从30--60--57--52--53. 当然也要看你自
己的期望， 有的人追求成绩，有的人追求感觉。 我认为差点不是选杆儿的唯一标准。
MP59很棒，就是新出的---贵
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q***q
发帖数: 3356 | 29 我又要跟你推荐MP69了 :)
再罗嗦一遍，我试了MP59,MP68,和MP69之后，觉得MP69就是我的dream iron了。最近反
复对比了cavity back和muscle back，觉得muscle back打到甜点的感觉还是明显比
cavity back要solid。当然我也同意你说的，不同的杆基本只影响感觉，跟成绩的关系
比较小。 |
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y***3
发帖数: 43 | 30 My score was not very consistent. Probably because it's been dry recently,
my
driver hit fairly far (usually 270+ yards), that made most Park 4 much
easier and lowered my overall handicap.
Thanks for your insight and I'll target on MP59...
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u*********r
发帖数: 2735 | 31 hehe
58,59 and 52,53 are totally different design and target different handicap
level players. FYI, some tour players use mp59.
several |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 32 like current No.1 of the world.
he is playing with mp59
i tried at shop, it is the best MP i like so far. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 33 yes, very similar. but somehow, i feel MP59 got better sweet spots, also
they customize the shaft, lie, angle for me, since I decided not to make any
change to my swing. By doing that, the new club fit my swing better.
Previously, my weakest distance is around 150, which is very odd for me. It
is very hard to plan the shot. For a par4, at tee, i try to drive as far as
I can to get into 140, which put a lot pressure on my driving. Even I do get
a good drive, say, 260 for a 410 yards par4, then I ... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 34 yes, very similar. but somehow, i feel MP59 got better sweet spots, also
they customize the shaft, lie, angle for me, since I decided not to make any
change to my swing. By doing that, the new club fit my swing better.
Previously, my weakest distance is around 150, which is very odd for me. It
is very hard to plan the shot. For a par4, at tee, i try to drive as far as
I can to get into 140, which put a lot pressure on my driving. Even I do get
a good drive, say, 260 for a 410 yards par4, then I ... 阅读全帖 |
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C******s
发帖数: 1917 | 35 这个MP59到处好评如潮，准备明年开春去Custom Fit一套去。
现在Taylormade的新铁杆也正在造势，估计handicap 10+的人会很喜欢。taylormade的
铁杆，打上去的声音很爽，就是不知道距离控制得怎么样。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 36 真是家家都有难念的经
我两个用RBZ DRIVER 的朋友都建议我也买，我跟他们的回答就是DRIVER＂重要的不是
距离＂
但，对我，要换铁杆就是因为距离
我MP52基本满足我对铁杆的要求，除了距离不够。而我又不想改SWING，就用MP59来帮忙
铁杆最重要的不是距离，其实很多现在的铁杆，六号铁其实就是标着6的五号铁，比较
距离一点意义都没有。
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 37 看你的帖子真是给人鼓舞
不过我是真不打算提高我的长铁杆了。
以前是把3／4换成HYBRID，最近把5号铁也砍了
MP52和MP59的稳定性都挺好的
我倒是同意CTSports，铁杆最重要的不是距离，除了稳定性外，重要的是不同长度的铁
杆打出不同的距离。我猜测，你是想通过换杆，提高你长铁的距离。
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c**********e
发帖数: 276 | 39 是的, 只用 6根
你这套MP59有快一半的，你没用啊。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 40 应该是刀背杆的特点。不一定是mizuno.
以前只用过Mizuno, 从MP52到MP59。觉得Mizuno很好用。
最近换到Titleist 的刀背，才真正体会到什么是＂杆头小，击球有效甜心区小＂
杆头小，击球有效甜心区小是不是就是众说的MIzuno杆比较precise的原因？ |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 41 Nice round! I dare not to walk 18 holes.
I played my 2012的最后一场球 after I played a so-so round on 28th.
Determined to leave a positive note for the end of 2012, I went out to play
another round on 30th on the highest rating course. We didn't get chance to
complete the round, but I managed to shot two birdies within 15 holes we
played. Only bad news is that I lost my Pitch wedge.
Now I am debating on getting a new P wedge (MP59) or a used one (MP52), or
just custom order a Titleist.
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the
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 42 Used blade set, 710. feel even better than my new MP59. |
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c**********e
发帖数: 276 | 43 昨天收到Titleist寄来的HIO的小东西—一块Pewter做的Bag Tag, 背面刻着我的名字，
嗬嗬，背面就不照了。 从登记到收到， 不到一个月。
前段时间本地有人出一个近乎新的 Mizuno Tour Staff Bag 10.5’, 才要150刀 。
结果一见面， 去年我就是从这位老美老兄手上买的Mizuno MP59。 该老美开个大批卡
， 个子不高，告诉我他一直背着这个大包打球。 最近他家里又添老三了， 打球时间
少了，已经换到TM的初级杆，所以把这个包卖掉去买TM的Staff Bag。
开车或用push cart，Mizuno Tour Staff Bag 真结实， 用起来很方便。 拔杆和把
杆放到包里， 非常容易和方便。 要是背着走，至少目前我还不会这样虐待自己。 |
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 44 MIZZI的MP系列一班有3条线。从近几年开始
MP32-MP67-MP68-MP4:绝对漂亮可是纯刀背很难打是
MP63-MP62-MP69-MP64: 介于两者之间适合单差点
MP60-MP57-MP52-MP53-MP59-MP54：这一系列叫Forged Cavity Back。个人觉得这一系
列比较适合handicap大于15又喜欢用forge手感的
MP60是4,5年前的款式了。 如果想买老款的我推荐MP53，要不在乎钱就最新款的MP54.
也可以试试一个叫fourteen的牌子，forge铁杆是真心不错。 |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 45 兄台用渔具作比，俺就用刀具作比好了：
厨刀的大路货的像KitchenAid之类，几十块钱买一套，德国货像什么单立人双立人，从
几十一把到一百出头。Amazon上Lighting Deal常被哄抢的“旬”，一把刀就几百块，
看起来像手工鱼鳞钢的样子，大概是俺们普罗大众能接触到的最高档次了。可是这些，
说穿了还是量卖之作。就像是球具中的名家设计，其实还是低端中的精品，豆浆兄的
Blade排名，讲的就是流通大品牌主打产品排名，和小批量或定制产品本就没有可比性。
器材要产生差别，需要in good hands。一把用了几年从没磨过的“十八子作”，恐怕
不如菜场边小杂货铺10块钱买来打磨锋利的无名菜刀来得顺手。可是如果同样的刀，同
样的使用保养，好刀越用越顺手，10块钱那把很快满是缺口刀柄松动怎么打磨都不顶用
了。 ——当然，这又是个极端的例子，只适合类比100块的超市套杆和500，1000的品
牌杆。
我想说的其实是：当你准备买杆的时候，杆子的区别是有的，有时候还挺大。可你总事
先有个Budget不是吗，所以对于不是一个价格档次的杆子比较是没有意义的。对于大部
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t***m
发帖数: 51 | 46 纯新手。看了大家对铁杆的评价,打算买套mp59。可是找不到二手deal。mp58倒是不少
人肯出手。
最近看到有人卖mp4,才用了一周,应该是handle不了。800刀。要跳吗? 想听听大家的意
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t******e
发帖数: 2009 | 47 我给你的建议是，不管你愿意花多少钱在高尔夫上面，第一年里要把90%的钱花在练习
和打球上，10%的钱花在装备上。第一套装备非常不重要。
mp59属于10年都不需要换的杆子，当然“不需要”不代表你不会想去换。
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