y**********g 发帖数: 3071 | 1
pentax如果出ff的mirrorless,我的老镜头应该可用吧 |
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G**Y 发帖数: 33224 | 2 mirrorless 这么快就跳水了。
现在需要金盒子了。 |
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c******s 发帖数: 1994 | 3 我是说DSLR用取景器对焦
mirrorless用CCD/CMOS对焦
从基本原理上看,理论上对焦速度是不是2:1?
假设镜头、对焦点素质等等其他条件都相同
当然是AF了 |
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s***y 发帖数: 7034 | 4 没钱啊,其实我就问问做知识储备,mirrorless 是不会买的,但很想忽悠别人买了给
我玩。。。:P
的确有些想等全幅,老黄你说价格降到多少可以出手? |
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d**********n 发帖数: 3634 | 5 so it really depends on the mirrorless you're looking at. canon's EOS M can
use the original, bigger, canon lenses if you use a converter, but that's
kinda annoying. Natively, it has a 22mm and a 18-55mm. Keep in mind that it'
s a crop body, aps-c sensor.
the particular limits of EOS M is its auto focus. even after a firmware
update it's still shit. also I don't think they make small teles.
there are other options such as micro four thirds but I'm not familiar with
those since there are way too ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****8 发帖数: 16949 | 7 哈哈,mean了点。不过是大实话。后面加个0可能都够不上"enthusiastic amateur".
不过如果真心想学拍照,还是买底端的DSLR吧。不过最好准备至少n倍的预算以后升级
镜头。如果方便实用,我可能会买Mirrorless.
firstly. |
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b***l 发帖数: 222 | 8 Entry level DSLR: 6D, D610
Entry level mirrorless: A7 |
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b*******0 发帖数: 1695 | 9 Thanks, please recommend brand and model for mirrorless |
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n****r 发帖数: 580 | 10 正在选相机。初步决定就是mirrorless. 我家里有30D和几个镜头,但是平常出去玩都
不愿背。最近把s95给丢了.准备再买一个新的相机.
感觉革命机个头还不错。
现在初步定在gx7和a6000。好像都还不错,价格也不贵。
这两家镜头都不熟。不知道,怎么配好?
a6000自带的16-50mm,好不好?似乎将配一个55-210mm.刚好一千块,价格还不错。 |
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n****r 发帖数: 580 | 11 当然没有十全十美的。这就是为什么看中mirrorless 是个好的compromise.
感觉最后是谁家的镜头好决定入谁家的门。 |
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M****a 发帖数: 5211 | 12 器材名称
A6000 Mirrorless camera ILCE-6000/B: $575
付款方式(需要其他付款方式请联系卖家)
paypal non-cc,
亚马逊payment non-cc
paypal cc if you cover the fee
卖家联系方式
bbs mail
器材具体描述、价格、运费:
运费卖家出
一年质保
货源 sony store (行货) |
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M****a 发帖数: 5211 | 13 器材名称
a7S Full Frame Mirrorless Camera: $2300 shipped
付款方式(需要其他付款方式请联系卖家)
paypal non-cc,
亚马逊payment non-cc
paypal cc if you cover the fee
卖家联系方式
bbs mail
器材具体描述、价格、运费:
运费卖家出
一年质保
货源 sony store (行货) |
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D***3 发帖数: 12712 | 14 只看厂家愿不愿意干
mirrorless利润太低了 |
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k***e 发帖数: 1931 | 15 全幅无反微单大概除了对焦、高速连拍和镜头群与高端单反还有差距之外,其他方面都
已经基本追平或超越大部分单反了,尤其是体积重量。
总之对于家用来说绝对是绰绰有余。
mirrorless啦 |
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p*********r 发帖数: 4593 | 16
等 mirrorless 做的比 mirror的还要好时,那些 mirror的就更没利润了。
就像现在的 Sony A6000 已做的比其他的 mirror的(用 APS-C sensor)
都好了(至少从性能上来说),那些 mirror的单反只能跟着跌价。 而且还是卖不动。
Nikon sales is down around 30%. |
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s********4 发帖数: 16 | 17 应该很少有人花一千多刀买个机身只挂个35/50套头转悠的吧。
稍微好一点的大光圈变焦或者长焦,后面挂个mirrorless还是单反有什么区别? |
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s********4 发帖数: 16 | 18 说的就是如果用好一点的大光圈镜头,体积、重量和机动性几乎完全取决于镜头。6D/
D600能比A7多占多少空间?价格A7也不比入门DSLR便宜多少啊。。。所以感觉除非炮厂
鞋厂自己出mirrorless,骚尼自己在那里靠非常有限的镜头群硬推怕是很难普及。 |
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g******g 发帖数: 585 | 22 手上有几个Canon的镜头
EFS 10-22mmm
EF 70-300mm
EFS 17-85 mm
Sigma Canon mount 18-200mm
请问这些镜头能用在mirrorless的机身上吗?如果可能能麻烦推荐一个能使用这些镜头
的机器吗?
非常感谢。 |
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y*b 发帖数: 3190 | 24 http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/sony-now-leads-the-mirrorless-m
"The full 2014 digital camera sales data in Japan has been published by
BCNranking. And the new 2015 king is Sony which now holds 34.3% of the
market share. Olympus and Panasonic both lost a bit of terrain. The data
doesn't show the rest of companies market shares but if Panasonic keeps
falling Fuji and Canon may will kick them out from the top position." |
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y*b 发帖数: 3190 | 26 "Imaging Resource had a meeting with the Sony folks in USA. And they shared
the chart above which finally clearly shows how Sony’s interchangeable
camera business is growing:
The presentation included stats from market research firm NPD, stating that
Sony has been the #1 mirrorless camera maker for the last four years running
. As with everyone else, 2013 was pretty awful, but check out the numbers
since then. For the first half of 2015, their ILC sales were up 42% over
2014. Let’s underscore th... 阅读全帖 |
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y*b 发帖数: 3190 | 27 "Yep, our source was right and Leica is indeed going to announce their
completely new SL Full Frame mirrorless and autofocus system on October 20!
And Leica will announce three new SL lenses with the following specs:
– Leica Vario-Elmarit-SL 1: 2.8-4 / 24-90 mm ASPH.
– Leica Apo-Vario-Elmarit-SL 1: 2.8-4 / 90-280 mm
– Leica Summilux-SL 1: 1.4 / 50 mm ASPH.
I have been told this is an extremely expensive cameras. I don’t think this
can be a real Sony FE system competitor. It will remain a luxury ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****s 发帖数: 1754 | 28 视频 mirrorless 能够 auto focus? |
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l*****s 发帖数: 1754 | 29 看完楼主的问题,“如果侧重视频...的AF speed,哪个mirrorless更好”,我惊呆了。 |
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b****t 发帖数: 5743 | 30 视频 mirrorless 能够 auto focus,而且很smooth |
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l*****s 发帖数: 1754 | 31 视频 mirrorless 能够 auto focus? |
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l*****s 发帖数: 1754 | 32 看完楼主的问题,“如果侧重视频...的AF speed,哪个mirrorless更好”,我惊呆了。 |
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b****t 发帖数: 5743 | 33 视频 mirrorless 能够 auto focus,而且很smooth |
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p*********r 发帖数: 4593 | 34 对焦和追焦, Nikon 1 应该是 Mirrorless 里最好的。
可惜它的底才 1 寸,跟 MF43 和 APS-C 的底比是太小了些。 |
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p***e 发帖数: 29053 | 35 sony都卖到3200了,我就不相信CANON出全副mirrorless会比小4贵哈哈 |
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b****r 发帖数: 17995 | 36 太晚了吧。而且mirrorless要靠sensor的技术,你坑连sensor都自己造不了,怎么和人
家玩? |
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b****r 发帖数: 17995 | 37 太晚了吧。而且mirrorless要靠sensor的技术,你坑连sensor都自己造不了,怎么和人
家玩? |
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y*b 发帖数: 3190 | 38 "Keith over at Northlight received some suggestions of new products to
expect in 2016.
Pro Level Mirrorless Camera (and more)
Expanding the EF-M system
First ConnectedCamera device
New technology sensor (APS-C)
Built in EEVF viewfinder
Pro level AF performance
Best in class video capability
Pro build quality with enhanced ergonomics
Wider support for the EF lens family
This won’t come until after the EOS M3 gets an update in early 2016.
There was also a mention of a new full frame camera being a... 阅读全帖 |
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L******9 发帖数: 866 | 39 $700, 还包含一个case和一个32GB的卡。大家觉得是好deal吗?小白一个,只会用傻瓜
机。觉得这个可行吗?具体的配置如下:
Sony a6000 Mirrorless Digital Camera 18-55mm and 55-210mm Lens Bundle
Includes 32GB SD Card, Bag and Quick Pro Learning DVD |
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r********e 发帖数: 1879 | 40 佳能宣布5D4是Mirrorless, 这样够Supprise吧? |
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d******d 发帖数: 2210 | 41 全副无反+ 35L mark2 或更广一点镜头变体,不可换镜头。
of
it
mirrorless.
CP+ |
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h*****2 发帖数: 2070 | 42 在大家都认为佳能不再挤牙膏的时候,它再给你们挤一管?
回顾一下佳能的每一次发布,哪次不是“惊喜”和“感动”?一块传感器从有狗那年用
到今天,连IPHONE都不如,人家好歹还改动一下。就这种敷衍到死的货色还惊喜?
恐怕是惊吓吧。
of
it
mirrorless.
CP+ |
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p**********t 发帖数: 3680 | 43 说个简单的话吧,趋势就是趋势,十年后多数人都只用mirrorless,还带mirror的拿出
来会让人觉得异类
M43 |
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h********n 发帖数: 380 | 44 其实还有个问题你们想过没:mirrorless拿掉的是一块五棱镜,就上方突出的那么一小
块,为什么A7能比5D3,D810小那么多?
答案是ergonomics,找个70-200mm f2.8的镜头挂上机试试,DSLR的大小握起来很平衡
。换句话说,尼佳不是不能把5D3,D810做小,只怕是一做小那些天天长枪短炮的pro就
要有意见了。除此之外骚尼在电池上也做了点文章,这个文章也提到了。 |
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h********n 发帖数: 380 | 45 没有哪个P家O家的用户叫嚣着要和尼佳三分天下甚至一统江湖吧?就大法粉这么喊,因
为大法的无反是FF。EVF,on-sensor对焦当然是技术进步,给了用户无反这么一个选择
,大法的出现充其量是把无反带到了FF,但不是革命性的。我前面的帖子提到了,挡光
板和五棱镜没有占用你想象中那么大的体积,骚尼其实是悄悄的牺牲了ergonomics,续
航,机器散热等其他一些方面换取了小的机身,然后扯上mirrorless这面大旗,不得不
说他们的marketing确实牛B。一个档光板和五棱镜有多重?A7RII是625克,5D3是860克
,一个转接环外加多带几块电池就offset了这四两重量,你能说这是革命性的吗?
大法A7系列的意义不在于有无档光板,而是作为一个搅局者它逼着尼佳跟进给我们这群
客户更多的选择。从技术上讲,我觉得就on-sensor对焦可以称为无反的独门绝技,
IBIS单反完全可以采用,至于尼佳富士为什么都一致选择镜头IS而不是body IS,这是
有市场和光学上考量的。没有哪个pro闲着蛋痛玩转接,玩老头,玩手动头,尼佳肯定
是优先考虑这群客户,而如果用native lens的话,... 阅读全帖 |
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p***e 发帖数: 29053 | 46 a full frame mirrorless fixed lens camera, canon, r u kidding me |
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N**********d 发帖数: 2466 | 47 mirrorless如果再能lensless就无敌了。不然镜头还是太巨大 |
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l*h 发帖数: 4124 | 48 想为了轻便买个mirrorless,有什么值得推荐的吗?似乎Fujifilm X-T1的评价还不错
。 |
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y*b 发帖数: 3190 | 49 "Japanese magazine speculate new Pentax M-E camera may be launched this year"
zz from mirrorless rumors |
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y*b 发帖数: 3190 | 50 zz from nikon rumors:
"A quick update on my last post about the rumored new full-frame mirrorless
Z-mount from Nikon: the measurements I reported caused some confusion in the
comments section - my understanding is that the external diameter of 49mm
is the actual mount opening, the entire external diameter of the mount is
going to be 65.4mm (just received this update):
Mount diameter (opening): 49mm
Total diameter of mount: 65.4mm
Flange focal distance: 16mm
The top graph by Eric Calabros shows a... 阅读全帖 |
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