I******8
发帖数: 3174 | 1 不小心找到的，也没去核实，有兴趣的可以看着玩玩。梅西对马拉多纳的评论并不在里
头，我凑巧看到就放在了前头，好让大家看了以后停止那些无聊的比较，专心看球。
Lionel Messi
"Diego is Diego and for me he is the greatest player of all time. Even after
a million years I am not even going to be close to Maradona. I have no
intention of comparing myself with Maradona – I want to make my own history
for something I have achieved."
链接： http://proudbarcelonista.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/quotes-about-lionel-messi/ |
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n*****n
发帖数: 1634 | 2 I do not need read this paper to know the difference between messi and C, if
you watch the game, it is so obvious
messi is the best one currently of course, but VERY FAR from maradona, can
you see it from the data analysis?
such analysis is only correct when the conclusion is obvious. So it is
garbage. |
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k*******8
发帖数: 2320 | 3 messi是義大利姓 不過他拿的應該是西班牙護照 所以最多算半個義大利人
Messi是意大利姓。他妈有西班牙血统（加泰罗尼亚血统，就是巴塞罗那那个省）。 |
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a****t
发帖数: 1532 | 4 messi这届还行吧。老马的86年世界杯也已经26岁了吧。messi的前两届还是小屁孩呢。 |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 5 哎！我德听天由命吧！
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/11/nicola-rizzoli-
Wilmots claimed: “I don’t want to be a cry baby but I noticed the referee
never gives fouls against Argentina.
“Every time something happens with Messi the referee gives him a free-kick.
I notice he [Messi] made three fouls and no yellow card, we made one foul
and one yellow card.”
It will be the third time this World Cup that Rizzoli has refereed a match
involving Argentina – he was also in charge of their 3-2 win over N... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1470 | 6 德国主力居然有8人是上届主力：
Klose, Müller, Özil, Schweinsteiger, Khedira, Lahm, Boateng, Neuer
其中上上届的主力只有Klose和Lahm.
这些人实力基本保持不变，Neuer更加大胆，Ozil不如上届惊艳，Klose继续老化，
Muller更加诡异。
新人只有三个：后腰Kroos, 中卫Humels, 左后卫Howedes
Howedes是德国唯一的弱点，半场已经被Lavezzi打穿。德国能赢还要多谢Lavezzi被换
下。
阿根廷主力有6人是上届主力：
Higuain, Messi, Di Maria, Mascherano, Demichelis, Romero
其中上上届的主力只有Mascherano.
这些人Higuain退步太多，Messi走下坡路, Di Maria进步明显，Mas更加老道，Demi似
乎开悟了, Romero也有进步。
总体比上届略好。
新人5个：后腰Biglia, 左后卫Rojo, 右后卫Zabaleta, 中卫Garay, 右边锋Lavezzi
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l******d
发帖数: 5255 | 7 今天的新闻：
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/maradona-says-messi-did-n
Maradona says Messi did not deserve to win FIFA's Golden Ball
"I would give heaven and earth to Leo, but when marketing people want him to
win something he didn't (deserve to) win, it is unfair," said Maradona, the
winner of the Golden Ball when Argentina won the World Cup in 1986. |
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T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 8 上半场，坚持踢完120分钟，煤球坚强啊。医生真是废柴，查不出原因，该送Dr House
看看。
During the first half of the World Cup final between Argentina and Germany,
Golden Ball winner Lionel Messi threw up on the field before shaking it off
and continuing with play.
Despite several medical tests, Argentina and Barcelona team doctors haven’t
been able to find the cause of Messi’s problem.
The striker has played it down, saying it’s just something that happens to
him in training, during matches and even when he’s at home. |
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p**f
发帖数: 2610 | 9 messi还是很牛的球员，不过不应该过分神化。
教练给了他太多球场上的控制权，所以才出了问题。
主要还是教练的责任。等到messi认识到自己不过是一球员的时候，他的价值才会充分
体现。 |
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 10 Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo: A comparison of their penalty records
51：34
6：6
89.5%：85%
www1.skysports.com/football/news/11828/9732791/lionel-messi-and-cristiano-
ronaldo-a-comparison-of-their-penalty-records |
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B****s
发帖数: 1509 | 12 You know nothing. The more you say the more ignorance shown to everybody! It
is understandable to say Messi should not be called the King because he won
no World Cup, but if if you say he is no good to play soccer, all we can
say is that you are stupid.
[在 nokiddingme (阿咪托佛) 的大作中提到：]
：last summer, messi, world cup, I watched
：he is like a girl
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S******4
发帖数: 2865 | 13 这里说Messi不如齐达内的人这么些，只有一个原因。。。 你老了。
当年小屁孩一个半夜起来跟同学一起看球，看的激动人心20年后都忘不了；现在孩子老
婆，尿布工作忙的一塌糊涂，在Youtube上看看240p的集锦，然后说“Messi也不过如此
嘛”。
LOL。这是你自己的问题。
就我个人来说，巴萨今年这个三冠王也不如当年曼联那三冠王给我震撼人心啊，但我有
足够的智商知道99曼联大概能勉强给巴萨提鞋。
回到梅西 vs 齐达内。梅西肯定是历史前三，齐达内大概前30吧。
一个老球迷的真心话 |
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c******7
发帖数: 211 | 14
其实就是自己老了。我能理解,因为我也老了。人老了就不会关注其他的普通一流球星
。你不关注那个时代的其他球星你就不会知道那个时代的top3是多nb。 简单问一句，
口口声声说齐达内比messi牛的几位，能报出几个88后球星的名字？
其实我也有同样的问题，我到现在还绝对认为nba目前比十年前差一大节。哪怕我知道
这和我不怎么看nba了有关。。我还是坚信现在的nba不行。
但是，，，messi能让我在这种情怀下还认为他比我那个年代看到的巨星不差。就凭这
点，他就不会比他们差，甚至很可能比他们强
所以还是多听听专家的真正足球人的意见，不要不信。人家天天看天天研究，人家现在
和20年前关注度一样。不像我们，要生活就没了足球。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 16
Keep laughing dude,
obviously you have no sense on how messi did and is doing on the field, so
please Just keep in mind on the following facts:
messi scored 91 goals in one year,
he consistently scored more than 50 goals in each season, even though in the
past year when he was more like a middle field.
Ronaldo is great, but simply not at this level. |
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w********9
发帖数: 8613 | 17 October 12, 2015
http://zeenews.india.com/sports/football/diego-maradona-more-co
Former Indian soccer skipper and current MP Prasun Banerjee asked Pele to
compare the two Argentines greats -- Maradona and Messi.
"Both are very good players. But the way I see football, Maradona was more
complete than Messi," said the Samba magician. |
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s******3
发帖数: 76 | 18 没有悬念的League？ 西甲的黄马和马竞没有巴萨的话都是在欧冠大杀四方的。从皇马
放出去的272， 迪马利亚，一瓜因， 哪个不是其他队的超级大腿？你说没悬念更证明
了梅西和巴萨的牛逼。
再看佐拉怎末说的：
If you look at the standards that Messi and Ronaldo are setting at the
moment, they are unbelievable standards, but I think it's what Maradona did
in his time was the same, exceptional.
"It's very difficult and unfair probably to compare players from different
eras, because they were able to reach excellence in their time and they have
to be rewarded for that.
"I must say that Maradona was ama... 阅读全帖 |
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p**f
发帖数: 2610 | 19 那是因为你太年轻，象我们这一辈的很少有人觉得梅西比老马好的。
我儿子看了老马的视频以后都觉得老马比梅西牛逼多了。然后给他的teammate看，他的
teammate都看傻了，以前都没听说过老马。
这种球王之争非常无聊。
我们这一辈子从小看老马的都认为老马最牛。
我儿子教练那一帮孩子看齐达内踢球长大的都觉得齐达内，小罗最牛。
你们这些小孩都觉得messi最牛。
比你小一轮的以后也不会把messi当球王。
就是这么回事。
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发帖数: 76 | 20 Lionel Messi is quite clearly the best player ever. It’s a pleasure to pit
myself against him and when I finish my career it’s something I can look
back on and know I’ve tested myself against the very best." - John Terry
"Messi is better than Maradona; he is more complete, more consistent, more
spectacular. He is reinventing the game – a mix of the real and the virtual
." - Tosto |
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M****o
发帖数: 4860 | 21 至少聚乐部层面，秒杀messi了吗？
2016
Rank Player Team Goals Minutes played
1 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo Spain Real Madrid 16 1109
2 Poland Robert Lewandowski Germany Bayern Munich 9 942
3 Uruguay Luis Suárez Spain Barcelona 8 810
2014
Rank Player Team Goals Minutes played
1 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo Spain Real Madrid 17 993
2 Sweden Zlatan Ibrahimovi France Paris Saint-Germain 10
670
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U**s
发帖数: 3390 | 22 哈哈 今天现场看得真爽啊
出球场全是此起彼伏的 messi messi！ |
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u**u
发帖数: 252 | 23 messi is best in terms of pushing pure basic skills to absolute extreme, so
not flashy but works very well, ronaldinho is really doing all the tricks in
real games regardless of field size, CR does rely on athleticism but that
should not be a point of criticism, just like messi does rely on short legs
for quick touch and low centre of gravity for quick change of direction |
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z**********i
发帖数: 9546 | 24 04年，还是阿根廷各种火的时候吧，虽然有02世界杯的大热必死。
那个时候，功利的看，选西班牙也不合适吧。
阿根廷最近的悲催，管理层也是大大的有锅。
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Messi
2004–05: Success at youth level
As a dual Argentine-Spanish national, Messi was eligible to play for the
national team of both countries.[233] Selectors for Spain's Under-17 squad
began pursuing him in 2003 after Barcelona's director of football, Carles
Rexach, alerted the Royal Spanish Football Federation to their young player.
Messi ... 阅读全帖 |
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S*****e
发帖数: 6676 | 25 煤老板、马诺、伊涅斯塔不续约都成自由身
2018
Messi - On May 2014, Barça signed his renewal and he became the best
well-paid player in the world. A new renewal in the upcoming months is not
ruled out.
Mascherano - The Argentinian became one of Barça's leaders in the squad
, and he is now one of the captains. Good relationship with Messi and key
player.
Iniesta - One of the key players of the last years, he can still keep
showing his potential. He has a two-year contract plus two more optional. |
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y********1
发帖数: 565 | 26 梅西是不是你心中的球王，我不在乎，每人的标准不一样，有人喜欢因扎吉，有人喜欢
肥罗，各有各的菜，不必强求。
传统武术耍起来挺好看，打起架来半天也摆不平对手；拳击手经常一拳就KO对手了。版
上有人说梅西带球没有美感的，只能说明你还不懂足球。
当今足坛，梅西至少有两个技术第一：
一是带球；
好的带球技术应该是单位距离内触球的次数。假设职业球员带球1米需要触球2次,优秀
的球员可以做到3次，梅西应该是可以做到4次。 这就保证了梅西不管什么时候都可以
很好的把球控制在自己的脚下，不管是过一个人以后，还是多人以后，皮球始终还在他
的控制范围下。低速下相对容易，但是高速就非常困难了。特别是那些靠速度过人的，
版上推崇的郝海东，还有我曾经喜欢的欧文，当他们靠速度趟过第一名防守球员后，球
基本上都已经不在自己的控制范围下，如果有人协防，基本被断。平时野球也是，有些
速度快，爱过人的，基本过完两三个，球已经离身体很远了。想了解更多，可以
youtube ‘how to dribble like messi’.
二是body feints (假动作，不知道怎么翻译)。
足球的过人基本靠两点，速度的节奏变化... 阅读全帖 |
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b***p
发帖数: 700 | 27 这第6和第7，就能看得出来，paulinho和messi的差距，paulinho又鲁又糙，球没有停
好还带丢了，messi一传，人家就1对1了
难怪这个保利尼奥去恒大踢球，干苦活累活行，真让他独当一面，肯定歇菜 |
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l******n
发帖数: 11737 | 28 To our American and Canadian cousins, the British Academy of Film and
Television Arts (BAFTA) is kind of the British equivalent of Academy of
Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS), which organises the Academy Awards
, otherwise known as The Oscars.
BAFTA recognises video games and has done since the late 90s, which not only
means that we get to wear tuxedos once a year and attend an opulent awards
ceremony, but also that the British games industry gets support and
acknowledgment from a highly... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 29 EA简直是Messi干儿子，过一个节就出一个加强版Messi，现在连儿童节都出。。。。 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 30 哦，我是只买贵的。。
手上经常一大把modric很少ozil
西甲的cam实在太差了，要是小白是cam就好了
要全9的选择，前腰要么用modric，ozil，前锋用messi
如果前腰用messi，前锋就只能上Falcao和Benzema
感觉选择不如英超的前场速度快 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 31 这周就出Messi 的IF了
市场必然受到重大影响啊，白买普通Messi了 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 32 我这两天弄了替补西甲阵容（扣去Messi，C罗和皇马一干后卫）
发现这些人跟巨星是有巨大差别－－跟普通80出头的球员差别真不大
所以要嘛上超巨星（Messi，C罗，Ibra），要嘛就用普通ds就可以
赛？ |
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s******x
发帖数: 1234 | 33 facebook上是这样说的：
New FUT tourney: the Messi Tournament. Each time you win the cup (offline or
online), you'll be entered for a chance to win an 86 Messi! Three winners
in total, 1 for each platform (PC, PS3, Xbox).
Ends: Wed Dec 12th 5:30pm UK
Team Reqs: None.
Online prize: 7,500 coins (doesn't decrease).
Offline prize: 4,000 coins (1st), 1500 coins (2nd).
Offline difficulty: Professional |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 38 黑卡刚出来3，4天的时候买好像都不太亏
我之前那张梅西的黑卡卖掉收税也基本持平 |
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a*******8
发帖数: 5069 | 41 神一样的阵容神一样的存在。。。
我说superboro,你快买一个xbox吧，我跟你买100万Pts先。看你钱多的难受，LOL
正好想买普通梅西，差100万。。。 |
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a*******8
发帖数: 5069 | 42 你是不是也在ebay上卖Pts啊？？否则钱怎么花啊？？ |
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i*******8
发帖数: 7955 | 43 昨天踢完一场后对手提出用messi换我的aguero,buffon,miccoli和di natale。做法是
他贴一个messi出来以后我用随便哪4个球员去换，然后他去复制3份上面的4个人，给我
2份他留1份。我觉得trade以后他好像能进入我的账户，所以找了个借口拒了。大家有
没有碰到过这样的事情？ |
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h***9
发帖数: 8948 | 44 messi好用吗？
fifa里的messi从没给我留下什么特别的印象啊，太矮太弱了。 |
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p*********e
发帖数: 138 | 45 体重有关？或者是因为messi一般对位中卫，neymar对位边卫？
另外我非常不理解的是黑Neymar的Strength和Balance都比Messi低不少，为什么还是梅
西一碰就到（我也有这个感觉）而不是黑Neymar一碰就到其实除了身高和Ag........ |
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s********0
发帖数: 2625 | 46 昨天发现15的发售日变成23号了,我怎么记得以前是26号?
新浪上看到fut 15的顶级球员评分,Messi 93, c罗 92,但是Messi skill move只有4星
。。。裸奔评分超过伊布。。。 |
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s*******t
发帖数: 3895 | 47 嗯，23号去店里取货。messi skill move一直都只有4星啊，他现实里花哨的动作做得
不多的，就是频率快，变向快。这个特点到目前为止的FIFA做的非常不好，messi在游
戏里带球根本没什么特别之处。 |
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发帖数: 1 | 48 梅西还缺什么呢？
统治欧冠，统治西甲，各色历史进球记录，无数赞美；球技的极致，完美的队友。
封王成圣，似乎已没有问题。
如果有个世界杯，就更完美了。
——哪位会说，自然了，贝利有世界杯，马拉多纳有世界杯，贝肯鲍尔有世界杯，
齐达内和罗纳尔多有世界杯。但反过来，克鲁伊夫、普拉蒂尼、迪斯蒂法诺，那都没有
世界杯啊？
——的确如此。我们自然也可以说，如果仅论竞技水平，欧冠或欧锦赛，可能已在
世界杯之上；而世界杯自带国籍的天然属性，已经连累了诸如舍甫琴科和吉格斯这些祖
国一般般、个人逆天的强者。
但没法子，因为世界对梅西的标准是史上第一人，他的一切荣誉，势必要面对最苛
刻的挑剔。
所以他需要一个世界杯。
而我们都知道，这可能是他最后一次世界杯：他会在世界杯期间过31岁生日，2022
年，他就要35岁了。
这可能是他朝无可争议的足球终极王者，最后一次挑战的机会。
一直有个传说：梅西曾在训练时，一生气，盘过巴萨全队，进了个球。
可怕的在于，这传说完全可能是真的。毕竟，以梅西史上无双的触球、频率与节奏
，这是完全可能的。其他球员过人也许要个花式，需要施展爆发力，但他只需要在步频
和节奏上略微一变，自... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******l
发帖数: 4801 | 49 i c. i am low hand ya, have to always start with natural :( //blush
but i already forgot what i said last time. then after i felt messy about VW,
then i started thinking why i felt so messy, then i realized that, my
orientation was wrong! :( |
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r***u
发帖数: 1272 | 50 William Deresiewicz 2010年在斯坦福大学的演讲：
我的题目提出的问题，当然，是一个传统地面向人文科学的专业所提出的问题：学习文
学、艺术或哲学能有什么实效价值（practical value）？你肯定纳闷，我为什么在以
科技堡垒而闻名的斯坦福提出这个问题呢？大学学位给人带来众多机会，这还有什么需
要质疑的吗？
但那不是我提出的问题。这里的“做（do）”并不是指工作（job），“那(that)”并
不是指你的专业（major）。]我们不仅仅是我们的工作，教育的全部也不仅仅是一门主
修专业。（We are more than our jobs, and education is more than a major.）教
育也不仅仅是上大学，甚至也不仅是从幼儿园到研究生院的正规学校教育。我说的“你
要做什么”的意思是你要过什么样的生活（what kind of life are you going to
lead?）？我所说的“那”指的是你得到的正规或非正规的任何训练，那些把你送到这
里来的东西，你在学校的剩余时间里将要做的任何事。
我们不妨先来讨论你是如何考入斯坦福的... 阅读全帖 |
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