a*******e
发帖数: 12169 | 1 NEW YORK (AP)—Mark McGwire finally came clean, admitting he used steroids
when he broke baseball’s home run record in 1998.
McGwire said in a statement sent to The Associated Press on Monday that he
used steroids on and off for nearly a decade. During a 20-minute telephone
interview shortly afterward, his voice repeatedly cracked.
“It’s very emotional, it’s telling family members, friends and coaches,
you know, it’s former teammates to try to get a hold of, you know, that I’
m coming clean and b |
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 2 94-95年球员罢工，让很多球迷心寒，棒球的热度降到最低点，98年时,mcgwire和sammy
sosa（cubs）激烈争夺但赛季本垒打冠军，并且同时打破了保持多年的纪录（roger
maris），引起了全国范围的巨大关注，把球迷吸引了回来，复兴这个词可能过了点，
但是挽救了棒球的受欢迎程度。 |
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 3 说实话，这年头没人再关心PED了。大家都惦记着McGwire是因为他还没出来道过歉，
这就跟戏已经演完了但是演员还没出来谢幕一样。 |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 4 Not surprising, but he came out and acknowledged this.
I'd love to see him pinch hit this year as La Russa suggested. And I'd love
to see him in the HOF. Players of McGwire and Rose's stature need to be ther
e. |
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g*m
发帖数: 4659 | 6 mcgwires is a cheater AND a lier. |
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z******n
发帖数: 1223 | 7 McGwire作为当代球员的15年有效期已经过去七年了
Ortiz的有效期在退役五年后才开始
Ortiz再打三年的话McGwire只要能作为当代球员入选就肯定是在Ortiz的资格开始之前
问题是McGwire这七年里从来没有超过25%得票，而入选需要75%
128 of the 545 cast (23.5% of the vote) in 2007,
128 of 543 (23.6%) in 2008,
118 of 539 (21.9%) in 2009,
128 of 539 (23.7%) in 2010,
115 of 581 (19.8%) in 2011,
112 of 573 (19.5%) in 2012,
96 of 569 (16.9%) in 2013.
投票者的情绪是显而易见的。
去年Biggio（68.2%）、Morris（67.7%）、Bagwell（59.6%）、Piazza（57.8%）、Tim
Raines（52.2%）得票都是McGwire的三倍以上，这些人都得分在以后几年入选
Schilling第一年也拿到38.8%
更不利的是今后几年有很多强... 阅读全帖 |
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z******n
发帖数: 1223 | 8 McGwire作为当代球员的15年有效期已经过去七年了
Ortiz的有效期在退役五年后才开始
Ortiz再打三年的话McGwire只要能作为当代球员入选就肯定是在Ortiz的资格开始之前
问题是McGwire这七年里从来没有超过25%得票，而入选需要75%
128 of the 545 cast (23.5% of the vote) in 2007,
128 of 543 (23.6%) in 2008,
118 of 539 (21.9%) in 2009,
128 of 539 (23.7%) in 2010,
115 of 581 (19.8%) in 2011,
112 of 573 (19.5%) in 2012,
96 of 569 (16.9%) in 2013.
投票者的情绪是显而易见的。
去年Biggio（68.2%）、Morris（67.7%）、Bagwell（59.6%）、Piazza（57.8%）、Tim
Raines（52.2%）得票都是McGwire的三倍以上，这些人都得分在以后几年入选
Schilling第一年也拿到38.8%
更不利的是今后几年有很多强... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****n
发帖数: 3617 | 9 Tommy John wiki上的这段有意思，
John decided it was time to retire in 1989, when Mark McGwire got two hits
off him. McGwire's father was John's dentist. John said of his decision, "
When your dentist's kid starts hitting you, it's time to retire!" |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 10
记得1998年McGwire打破单季全垒打纪录那个赛季么？
有一天 AP的一条新闻是
"McGwire has now gone 7 at bats without a home run." |
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e**p
发帖数: 4259 | 11 刚收到这封信，说我被选入Who's Who among Executives and Professionals，这个是
啥玩意a？
Hello XXX,
You were recently chosen as a potential candidate to represent your
professional community in the new, 2012 Edition of Who's Who among
Executives and Professionals.
The Publishing Committee selected you as a potential candidate based not
only upon your current standing, but focusing as well on criteria from
executive and professional directories, associations, and trade journals.
Given your background, the Director bel... 阅读全帖 |
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G****a
发帖数: 10208 | 12 圣路易红雀 （ St. Louis Cardinals ），是美国职棒大联盟中，隶属于国家联盟的棒
球队伍之一。 主场位于密苏里州的圣路易斯 。 在国家联盟的分区中，属于国家联盟
中区 。 他们总计共获得10次世界大赛冠军，在国家联盟是获得最多冠军的球队。 在
大联盟的30个球队里面，仅次于纽约洋基 （获得27次世界大赛冠军）。
红雀最早是创立于1882年，当时 的联盟为美国协会 ，球队取名为圣路
易棕长袜（St. Louis Brown Stockings），之后在1892年加入国家联盟 ，并在1900年
改名为现在大家所熟悉的队名圣路易红雀。 红雀现所使用的主场为布希体育场（Busch
Stadium），于2006年开始启用，在启用的第1年，红雀便夺下该年的世界大赛冠军，
上一次在主场启用第1年便夺下世界大赛冠军的是1923年的洋基（最近一次是2009年的
洋基体育场 ）。
球队历史
球队创立
1881年，运动家球场俱乐部(Sportsman's Park andClub)组成了圣路易布朗队(St.
Louis Browns)，并加入甫成立的美国协会 ... 阅读全帖 |
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d**f
发帖数: 16 | 13 主投：ORLANDO HERNANDEZ
捕手：MIKE PIAZZA
一垒：WILL CLARK
二垒：EDGARDO ALFONSO
三垒：ROBIN VENTURA
游击：ALEX RODRIGUEZ
左外：DAVID JUSTICE
右外：JAY BUHNER
中场：JIM EDMONDS
DH： EDGAR MARTINEZ
PH： MARK MCGWIRE
PR： RICKI HENDERSON
CLOSER：MARIANO RIVERA
教练：JOE TORRE |
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r****m
发帖数: 1264 | 14
Jose Canseco， 86年运动家的年度菜鸟，次年是Mark McGwire |
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f*o
发帖数: 168 | 15 That said, here is my list of 15 current players, and those who retired after
last season, who are among the all-time greatest at their position:
Catcher: Ivan Rodriguez and Mike Piazza
First base: Mark McGwire
Second base: Roberto Alomar
Shortstop: Alex Rodriguez and Cal Ripken Jr. (also third base)
Outfield: Bonds, Ken Griffey Jr., Sammy Sosa and Rickey Henderson
Pitchers: Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Greg Maddux and Mariano Rivera (closer) |
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g******a
发帖数: 667 | 16 >>本文仅供各位棒垒球爱好者参考学习，请勿任意转载或用于任何商业目的。
发信人: Noresize@Palmarama (et cetera) 看板: Baseball
标 题: 棒球记录调整（四）：守位的调整
发信站: 台大计中椰林风情站 (Fri Dec 10 23:55:01 1999)
为什麽我们要谈球员守位间的记录调整？问个问题：同样是打三十支全垒打
，一百分打点的一个一垒手与一个游击手，谁是比较好的球员？在一场比赛
中，教练一定得派一个捕手、一垒手、二垒手、三垒手、游击手、三个外野
手，一名投手。想想看，今天如果一支球队同时有McGwire与Bagwell，教练
会把其中一个放一垒，另外的去守游击吗？显然是不会的。我想每个球迷都
清楚，在棒球各个不同守位的选手集合中，有些守位是特别擅长打击的，而
有些守位是特别注重守备的。简单列一下1999年美联各个守位的选手总平均
成绩：
AVG AB R HR RBI SB CS OBP SLG
catcher .264 |
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b****e
发帖数: 985 | 17 oakland As是80年代末90年代初ML的第一强队，
88到92年，5年内四夺AL west的冠军，打入playoff,
那时候playoff只有两个division的冠军才有资格参加，
不象现在有4支队伍，赢不了division还有wildcard可以抢。
As连续三年赢了pennant,以大热门姿态进军WS，可惜只赢了一次。
一个伟大的王朝背后必然有一个睿智的总经理，
特别是对于As这样的小市场球队，精明的front office更加举足轻重。
当时As的president是大名鼎鼎的sandy alderson,
对，就是现任MLB vice president for baseball operation的sandy alderson,
大联盟内仅次于commissioner bud selig的二号人物。
sandy知道As囊中羞涩，搞不定大牌的自由球员，
所以他建队的宗旨是两条，
一是通过draft和好的farm system,
As连续三年培养出来了三个AL rookie of the year,
jose canseco, mark mcgwire和walt we |
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发帖数: 8363 | 18 Barry Bonds, Sosa, Tejada, Bret Boone and Roger Clemens.
Guys he's certain that used steroids:
McGwire, Giambi, Pudge, Juan Gonzalez, Palmeiro and Wilson Alvarez. |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 19 Big G can only make a bench...And the beloved "Gold Glove" Chavez
isn't even in it.
OF: Jose Canseco
OF: Jose Guillen
OF: David Justice
1B: Mark MCGwire
2B: Randy Velarde
SS: Miguel Tejada
3B: F.P. Santangelo
C: Cody McKay
DH: Jack Cust
Bench:
1B: Jason Giambi
OF: Jeremy Giambi
OF: Adam Piatt |
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m*******e
发帖数: 1280 | 20 on 2nd thought, I think I would rather not use my other id.
shame on McGwire, hehe
good idea.
上马甲8 |
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p**m
发帖数: 3876 | 21 José Canseco and Mark McGwire should come back too! The reunion of the bash
brothers! |
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r**********e
发帖数: 2821 | 22 有一年轰了70个homer,还是35岁的时候，貌似比现在的Pujols还要monster.
另外Bonds 02年 73个homer不磕药能不能被超过？ |
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B*****t
发帖数: 3012 | 23 Big Mac没被抓到过。
不过他在听证会上声称共产党员从来不说谎但我今天就是不说。。。
于是大家就默认他不打自招了。 |
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m*m
发帖数: 260 | 25 gotta love it.
Catcher: Ivan Rodriguez
First Base: Mark McGwire
Second Base: Chuck Knoblauch
Shortstop: Miguel Tejada
Third Base: Alex Rodriguez
Outfield: Barry Bonds
Outfield: Manny Ramirez
Outfield: Sammy Sosa
DH: Rafael Palmeiro
Starting Pitcher (Righty): Roger Clemens
Starting Pitcher (Lefty): Andy Pettitte
Closer: Eric Gagne |
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 26 各位都听说了吧。前本垒打单赛季纪录保持者，是90年代后期棒球复兴的主要贡献者，
后传出服药丑
闻，05年他在国会作证说了著名的“不谈过去”，现在他重新出山，肯定媒体不会放过
他，要他come
clean。
奇怪这里怎么没有人说这个？ |
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A*******e
发帖数: 12486 | 28 他是打手，怎么做pitching coach? |
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 29 错了错了，是击球教练,我修改了。可能我潜意识里还想着要是dave duncan不跟我们续
约的严重后果吧。 |
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 31 他自己肯定是想往事不要再提，可使公众和媒体不会放过他，如果他不澄清事实，STL
可能成为public enemy #1,到哪里打客场都会被球迷嘘，被当地媒体追着问。为什么不
能给球员保持沉默的权力呢，他们从某种程度上说也是steroid era的受害者。 |
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m*******e
发帖数: 1280 | 32 he could choose to remain to hide away and stay away from such questions.
he chose to come back to baseball, he chose to face those questions.
STL |
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m*m
发帖数: 260 | 33 so many big fish have emerged since his congress day, maybe he sort of l
oosened a bit. |
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 34 i'd rather him not pinch hitting in key situations:)
but yes, he deserves to be in the HOF!
love
ther |
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 35 改名HOC得了，hall of cheating.
love
ther |
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w*********s
发帖数: 8428 | 38 re
MLB should be changed to MLC too. |
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 40 我估计他永远都没戏，HOF对他来说也不重要。重要的是钱到手了，实话实说心里也敞
亮些。象火箭可能这辈子都会活在
阴影里。 |
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a******c
发帖数: 95 | 41 he is a joke. period.
love
ther |
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 43 克莱门斯自己都相信自己没有吃过药，活在自己编造的幻想里。 |
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 45 原文是"use",不是"eat", technically. |
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a********l
发帖数: 39524 | 46 wow!!!!!
well, everyone already knew that anyways |
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n*******e
发帖数: 2213 | 47 we all lie at some points of our lives. precisely speaking,
McGwire did not lie. He said " I am not here to talk about
the past".
I have no intention to defend him. Neither am I a Cardinals
fan, nor was I part of the historical chase between him and
Sosa. I just feel like people need courage to step up and
acknowledge their mistakes. I appauld that. |
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 48 at this point of his life, mcgwire doesn't NEED any job. |
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