O*********r
发帖数: 1835 | 1 澳网是中性球场，不容易爆冷。极端球场容易爆冷。
一个极端是温网（又快有低），另一个是法网（又慢又高）。温网平均每个point就几
秒，可以用迅雷不及掩耳之势讲对手蒙过去，对手没有太多调整的时间。法网则可以象
张德培1989年对阵Lendl一样每个球都回月亮球来耍赖。反正拍不死。 |
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y***e
发帖数: 6082 | 2 但澳网是出新科大满贯冠军最多的，反而觉得温网最没啥悬念
澳网是中性球场，不容易爆冷。极端球场容易爆冷。
一个极端是温网（又快有低），另一个是法网（又慢又高）。温网平均每个point就几
秒，可以用迅雷不及掩耳之势讲对手蒙过去，对手没有太多调整的时间。法网则可以象
张德培1989年对阵Lendl一样每个球都回月亮球来耍赖。反正拍不死。 |
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发帖数: 8966 | 3 Ivan Lendl刚开始排第一的时候也没有大满贯，当然后面拿了好多。
Moya, Ferrero, Muster都只有一个就混上No.1了。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 4 Also, Connors vs Edberg is 6-6 lifetime. Connors is 13 years older.
In your Agassi logic, this would mean the Connors era (Connors/
McEnroe) is much stronger than the Edberg era (Lendl/Edberg/Becker).
Doesn't seem so.
Some people just get old slower. |
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 5 从你的数据里面，33岁前的阿光对22岁前的费德勒是3：0，
然后33岁之后的阿光，对22岁之后的费德勒是0：8，
但是35岁的阿光还在美网决赛中从世界第一的费德勒手里拿到一个set。
阿光和你下面的论述中的康纳斯完全可比。
OK，还有一个argument，就是康纳斯是那个时代的神话，是GOAT，
（当然Lendle也是）
费德勒也终究会是GOAT，而阿光不是，
阿光只是他那个时代GOAT桑普拉斯身边一个有闪光点的优秀球员。
难道这还不说明什么么？
另外康纳斯是罕见的常青树，这个也是阿光所不能比的。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 6 Lendl has higher historical status than Connors -- more GSs,
more dominant among other top players.
Connors was not a god of that era, he had similar achievements
as McEnroe, and both of them were not as good as Borg.
My major point was that it is meaningless to look at the H2H
record of players that are from different age groups and then
draw conclusions. (Is Edberg much worse than Connors?) Some
people peak early, some late. It's different. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 7 Borg's career winning ratio is 82.7%, the best in open era.
The only one that might have a shot at this ratio is Laver, who
is 79.5% (note this was after he was 30).
Connors and Lendl are both 81.8%, slightly behind Borg. However,
coming to GS performance, Borg's winning ratio is a stunning 89.8%,
heads and shoulders above anyone else. (Even Federer is only 87.3%.)
Granted Borg retired at age 25, his statistics also included his
early ages between 17-19. So even if he didn't retire, his numbers
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 8 更新：
1. Argentina Guillermo Vilas 46 (1977)
2. Czech Republic Ivan Lendl 44 (1981–82)
3. Sweden Björn Borg 43 (1978)
4. United States John McEnroe 42 (1983–84)
5. Switzerland Roger Federer 41 (2006–07)
6. Serbia Novak Djokovic 37 (2010-11)
7. Sweden Björn Borg 35 (1979–80)
= Austria Thomas Muster 35 (1995)
= Switzerland Roger Federer 35 (2005)
10. United States Jimmy Connors 33 (1974) |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 9 Becker vs Edberg已经很快了，出乎偶的意料。同时代的比如Wilander
vs Lendl US Open final要慢很多。那个时代的拍子力量很小。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 10 Aglee. Connors lost to Lendl 16 straight times before retirement. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 11 Connors lost to Lendl 16 straight times, but still didn't retire
until 40...
Before that, he leads the H2H by 13:6. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 12 So far seems to be Lendl/Connors 22-13 or Becker/Edberg 25-10. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 13 Wait, Lendl/McEnroe is 21-15. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 14 The point is McEnroe beats everyone at his age, because he has
the best 技术。。。
Lendl, Borg, Wilander什么的现在好像都略逊于McEnroe. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 15 老迈在30年前，动作仍然属于难看的。那个时候已经有动作优美的Lendl了。 |
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n********r
发帖数: 4558 | 16 RG Final against Lendl, leading 2 sets to love at one point |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 17 http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/05/Features/Djokov
0 - Double faults in Australian Open, Dubai and Miami finals combined
1 - Grand Slam title
2 - Wins in 2010 Davis Cup final
3 - Victories over No. 2 Roger Federer
4 - Victories over No. 1 Rafael Nadal
5 - Wins in under 60 minutes
6 - Different Top 10 players beaten in 2011
7 - Singles titles
8 - Games lost to countryman Viktor Troicki in 3 matches
9 - Sets lost... and also sets won 6-0
10 - Wins over Top 5 opponents
11 - Losses befo... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 18 By TOM PERROTTA
How did Novak Djokovic conquer the tennis world?
Maybe the answer is as simple as this: Since last year, he's swearing off
pasta, pizza, beer, French bread, Corn Flakes, pretzels, empanadas,
Mallomars and Twizzlers—anything with gluten.
It's no secret that Djokovic has had a breakout season, or that he has been,
by any reasonable standard, the world's best athlete of 2011. On Sunday, he
beat Rafael Nadal in the Rome Masters, his fourth-straight win over the
Spaniard. It was his s... 阅读全帖 |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 19 oh just round 16? nice, there was one where he beats lendl in a semi too,
must got these 2 confused... |
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 20 exactly same feeling.
if no Nadal, maybe I lost interested to watch FF's game since 2008.......
Thanks God who sent Nadal to be FF's court-rival and made tennis more
attractive and exciting.
I really ND, even more good players can jlin the same compete level with FF
and RN, to make a more exciting competetion of tennis games.
Of course, as FF's fan, enjoy more than enough what he brought to us for so
many yrs already.
Any fighter will go older and older, and eventually be defeated, but what
the... 阅读全帖 |
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L*******t
发帖数: 782 | 21 A: Ivan Lendl
B: Michael Chang |
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B****t
发帖数: 3129 | 25 伦德尔怎可以跟费牛相提并论？
费牛这一级别的是桑神、纳豆、格拉芙 |
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w**w
发帖数: 5391 | 26 Open era (since 1968)
46—Guillermo Vilas (July-Sept. 1977)
44—Ivan Lendl (Sept. 1981-Feb. 1982)
43—Novak Djokovic (Dec. 2010-May 29, 2011)
42—John McEnroe (Jan.-May 1984)
41—Bjorn Borg (Oct. 1979-April 1980)
41—Roger Federer (Aug. 2006-March 2007)
35—Bjorn Borg (May-Aug. 1978)
35—Thomas Muster (April-June 1995)
35—Roger Federer (June-Nov. 2005)
32—Rafael Nadal (May-Aug. 2008) |
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y*****8
发帖数: 18140 | 27 给大家发个atp上关于No1的统计，看起来Novak算是大器晚成一辈,他“统治”的星期能
超过double digits or triple digits么？
THE NUMBER ONES
Following is a list of the 25 players who have ranked No. 1 in the history
of the South African Airways ATP Rankings (since 1973):
Player (Country) Reached No. 1 Age Total Weeks
Novak Djokovic (SRB) July 4, 2011 24 years, 1 months 1
Rafael Nadal (ESP) Aug. 18, 2008 22 years, 2 months 102
Roger Federer (SUI) Feb. 2, 2004 22 years, 5 months 285
Andy Roddick (USA) N... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 28 Lendl is a character. He didn't win a GS until the 5th final.
He was already 24 at that time. So basically he was No.1 more
than 1 year before winning 1st GS... |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 29 In that case players <= 180cm include the following all court
players:
Connors
My definition of 3 groups:
S&V: Sampras, McEnroe, Edberg, Becker
Baseline: Lendl, Borg, Nadal, Agassi, Courier, Kuerten, Wilander
All courts: Federer, Connors, Hewitt*, Năstase, Roddick*
*: These 2 could also be baseline. I am not sure.
There seems to be no significant difference between the heights
among different groups. |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 30 lendle 这样干过，我惊为天人。可惜我没有同样的一发，照样学的话就会被拍死了。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 31 按照总决赛标准，GOAT是Lendl.
5个冠军，4个亚军，3个半决赛，0个小组赛被淘汰。
当然，当年Laver等的时代没有总决赛。。。
所以不 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 32 From top of my head, Lendl. He has at least 2 runner-ups per
GS. |
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发帖数: 1835 | 33 昨天再看 Lendl 的比赛，感觉跟现代网球差别太大了。平击，大陆式握拍，打得小心
翼翼。用力大了球出界，小了球不过网，打边角准确度不高。
现代网球，windshield wiper，西方式握拍，拼命猛抽，既有net clearance, 又不出
界，还有deep penetration。Ground stroke 非常的 consistent。
很多人说现代网球跟80年代网球主要区别是因为poly。但我怎么还是觉得还是
windshield wiper 的打法和西方式握拍的结果。synthetic gut 也可以打windshield
wiper，也可以用extreme grip。 只是 in between points 要不停调线而已。
哪位理论家给解释一下。 |
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m******r
发帖数: 1686 | 34 转载一篇：
My training schedule as a professional tennis player.
I saw a post about how awesome it would be to become a pro. It truly can be
great, but the work to get there is pretty unfathomable for most. I thought
I would give you a day in my life from 1993 to 1995 when I was on tour. I
was a top 400 player and made very little money. It was not as beautiful a
picture as most would dream. Here was a typical training day:
I trained with a guy named Lawson Duncan for a while and here is what we did
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j*a
发帖数: 14423 | 35 800-MATCH WINS CLUB – Federer is now in fifth place on the Open Era list (
since 1968) for most match wins, overaking his childhood idol Stefan Edberg
(806).
PLAYER MATCH WINS
1) Jimmy Connors (USA) 1,242
2) Ivan Lendl (CZE/USA) 1,071
3) Guillermo Vilas (ARG) 923
4) John McEnroe (USA) 875
5) Andre Agassi (USA) 870
6) Roger Federer (SUI) 807 |
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n*********e
发帖数: 25274 | 36 那些说张德培不够厉害的还是闭嘴吧：
６６１场胜利，我德和我纳都没做到呢．．．
OPEN ERA MATCH WINS
(600 or more)
1 J. Connors 1222
2 I. Lendl 1070
3 G. Vilas 920
4 A. Agassi 870
5 J. McEnroe 867
6 S. Edberg 806
7 P. Sampras 762
8 R. Federer 743
9 I. Nastase 724
10 B. Becker 713
11 M. Chang 661
12 T. Muster 626
13 S. Smith 615
14 A. Ashe 613
Edberg |
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 37 他对lendl H2H什么记录？保不齐哪天拉个肚子啥的，一场比赛就见佛杀佛了？
to
French
favorite
6
third |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 38 Rank Weeks Player
# 2 210 Rafael Nadal
# 2 136 Boris Becker
# 2 104 Stefan Edberg
# 2 91 Roger Federer
# 2 90 Pete Sampras
# 2 88 Andre Agassi
# 2 67 Mats Wilander
# 2 60 Ivan Lendl
# 2 52 Andy Roddick
# 2 50 Jim Courier
i.e., Chang has not been at #2 for more than 49 weeks during his
entire career. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 39 Andy Murray
Very happy to announce that Ivan Lendl is my new full time coach. His impact
on the game is unquestionable and he brings experience and knowledge that
few others have, particularly in major tournaments. Happy New Year :) |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 40 击中那个球在前，第二盘中。人仰马翻那个是第二盘盘点。
偶当时的感觉就是这个是Lendl教的，哈哈。 |
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l*****8
发帖数: 770 | 43 哈哈，Lendl很有幽默感阿，对付买肯罗这种人就该用这种耍宝的招数 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 44 这些都还好啦。当年Connors对Lendl一开始13-5领先，然后17连败。。。 |
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k**f
发帖数: 1137 | 45 http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/features.aspx?articlei
His first thought:
1. It’s hard to get my head wrapped around the physical effort I saw Sunday
night in Melbourne, even a few days later. The tennis Novak and Rafa were
able to summon late in the match boggles my mind. Ivan Lendl and I were
talking about it Monday morning on our way back to the States, and both of
us were shaking our heads and asking the same question: How could they
possibly not cramp up out there? Ivan and I were ... 阅读全帖 |
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z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 46 你们说的这些其实都和我说的不同，lendl还是准备好了的，是真的ready
只是没想到对方会发ws球而已
我说的是压根不等对方ready就发球的 |
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n********r
发帖数: 4558 | 48
看joker能不能基本维持去年的状态，能的话豆子还是赢不了
基本上就看美网了
基本上看lendl |
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k**f
发帖数: 1137 | 49 gone. What did Lendl do to him? |
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f******g
发帖数: 13917 | 50 把Henin排在大威之后，窝有些不赞同。
Joker的40名，有些靠后了吧？其他的大家来评论评论吧
100 – Michael Chang, USA
99 – Ann Haydon Jones, GBR
98 – Henry Bunny Austin, GBR
97 – Pat Cash, AUS
96 – Manuel Orantes, ESP
95 – Thomas Muster, AUT
94 – Andy Roddick, USA
93 – Nicola Pietrangeli, ITA
92 – Svetlana Kuznetsova, RUS
91 – Shirley Fry Irvin, USA
90 – Bill Johnston, USA
89 – Dorothea Lambert Chambers, GBR
88 – Amelie Mauresmo, FRA
87 – Mary Pierce, FRA
86 – Tony Wilding, NZL
85 – Yannick Noah, FRA
84 – Norman Brookes, AUS
83 – Jan Kod... 阅读全帖 |
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