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发帖数: 8469 | 1 前NBA全明星后卫斯蒂芬-马布里(Stephon Marbury)已经确认在新赛季加盟北京鸭男篮
，而能够为中国的首都球队打球他也感到意义非凡，马布里表示在北京打球的感觉就好
像他当年为自己的家乡球队纽约尼克斯队打球一样。
“我想感谢北京给我一个完成梦想的机会，这是我第二家乡的首都，在这里打球就像在
纽约打球一样！纽约是我的家，这里也是。我的人生将在这里翻开新的一页，中国让我
更成熟，让我变成一个更好的人，我非常确信，我的未来就在这里！”
马布里1977年2月20日出生于纽约州纽约市布鲁克林区的科尼艾兰(Coney Island,
Brooklyn, New York City, New York)，1996年马布里在首轮第4位被密尔沃基雄鹿队
选中，之后被交易到明尼苏达森林狼队。在辗转森林狼、篮网和太阳3支球队之后马布
里于2004年1月5日被交易到纽约尼克斯。
不过马布里在家乡球队的日子并不开心，他先后与球队主帅拉里-布朗(Larry Brown)和
伊赛亚-托马斯(Isiah Thomas)传出不合，而他的场外麻烦和伤病问题也让他的状态每
况愈下，最后在2008年12月马布里于尼... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9501 | 2 Jeremy Lin: Even Kobe bows to his star power
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
NEW YORK – Somehow, the most improbable story in NBA history found
himself
in the most improbable place on Friday night: The ball in his hands,
Madison
Square Garden on its feet, and the fourth quarter genius of Los Angeles
Lakers star Kobe Bryant determined to obliterate this burgeoning
mythology.
Out of Bryant, had come a barrage: twisted, contorted fades, a self-pass
off
the backboard, the A-list arsenal out of ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9501 | 3 Monte Poole: Enjoy the Jeremy Lin ride while it lasts
By Monte Poole
Bay Area News Group
Posted: 02/11/2012 04:47:08 PM PST
Updated: 02/11/2012 10:13:02 PM PST
From Palo Alto High to Harvard, from Ivy League hoops to the NBA.
From the Warriors, where he was considered a novelty, a vanity project of
the impetuous new owner, to a brush with the Houston Rockets to, finally,
the New York Knicks.
Jeremy Lin, 23, unselected in the 2010 NBA draft, now stands astride the Big
Apple, which of course c... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 24292 | 5 也不是很像
林还是中国人的身体，有更多中国后卫的特点 |
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发帖数: 20533 | 6 中国后卫身体都很单薄，怕对抗，根本不能比阿。
林在这两场给我印象较深的一点是，它完全不怕冲进去和对方大个子身体接触，而且身
体就算被撞得要倒了，他还是能把球扔进去。要不是这样，谁会怕他冲啊？ |
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发帖数: 24292 | 7 也不完全是这样
中国以前强的就是后卫，以前对中国后卫最好的称赞是毒蛇，林这种就可以用毒蛇赞之 |
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l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 10 我脚着stockton nash 算毒蛇.lin奔那个方向去了，功力还不够 |
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发帖数: 24292 | 11 纳什有那么点毒蛇的意思
林其实还就是林，不是别人，拿其他人来套没有太大的意思 |
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发帖数: 641 | 12 kobe是大毒蛇
魔术师定论了，lin = stockton+nash |
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发帖数: 1080 | 13 IT 是 Isiah Thomas， 他的运球比magic和js花哨，传球跟magic差不多，黑手跟js差不多。 |
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发帖数: 5155 | 15 Kings rookie guard Isaiah Thomas was booed when his name was announced after
checking in late in the first quarter. The names are pronounced the same,
but he's not related to former Knicks coach and president Isiah Thomas.
"I knew it was going to happen here," Thomas said. "I was expecting
something.
Spike Lee told me next time you come to New York, you better change your
name."
http://news.hoopchina.com/201202/74027.html |
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发帖数: 2525 | 16 Teams that had two players score 40+ points in a game
The Baltimore Bullets vs. the Los Angeles Lakers on November 14, 1964 (Gus
Johnson 41, Walt Bellamy 40)
The Los Angeles Lakers at the San Francisco Warriors on February 11, 1970 (
Elgin Baylor 43, Jerry West 43)
The New Orleans Jazz vs. the Denver Nuggets on April 10, 1977 (Pete Maravich
45, Nate Williams 41)
The Phoenix Suns at the Boston Celtics on January 5, 1978 (Paul Westphal 43,
Walter Davis 40)
The San Antonio Spurs vs. the Milwaukee B... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3962 | 17 LBJ在他的第一次全明星赛上受到的待遇远远好过MJ的第一次。
2005年，LBJ第一次参加全明星赛。出手13次。居东部之首。
1985年，MJ第一次参加全明星赛。出手只有9次。东部的另外
四个主力队员出手次数都是两位数。东部还有两个
替补出手也是两位数。
在这一方面，LBJ完胜MJ。
这里有很多有趣的说法。但是没有任何人证实。
有好事者，可以谷歌“1985 nba all star game freeze out”。
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/steve_aschburner/02/09/85
下面来自Isiah Thomas的维克。
In the 1985 NBA All-Star Game, Thomas was joined on the Eastern Conference
squad by star rookie Michael Jordan. Jordan wound up attempting nine shots,
a relatively low number for a startin... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9616 | 18 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar – "Cap"[1]
Ray Allen – "Ray Ray",[2] "Jesus Shuttlesworth"[3] (after his character
in the movie He Got Game),[3]
Rafer Alston – "Skip To My Lou"[4]
Chris Andersen – "Birdman"[5]
Greg Anderson – "Cadillac"[6][7]
Carmelo Anthony – "Melo"[8]
Nate Archibald – "Tiny"[6][9]
Gilbert Arenas – ""Agent Zero", "The Hibachi"[10][11]
Trevor Ariza – "Cobra"[12]
Paul Arizin – "Pitchin' Paul"[9]
Ron Artest – "Metta World Peace" "Ron Ron"[13]
St... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1028 | 19 全部都是我msg的朋友传过来的。不过他职位不高，不保证真实性。
- coach d和woodson关系不好。woodson是isiah thomas一派的，跟德安东尼( d walsh
的密友）关系可能连普通同事都不如
- coach d在甜瓜复出之后，由于当时selfish melo的说法满天飞，而且纽约的媒体下
嘴无情，所以出于保护他的顾虑，要求甜瓜打billy walker的那个三分底线的站桩位置
。如果赢球了，大家会说甜瓜作牺牲；如果输球了，coach d 会说这是因为队伍还在调
整，所以人都需要适应。总之coach d做好准备站出来担负责任，AS LONG AS 甜瓜按照
计划打球
- 甜瓜在三连败之后开始对这个计划失去信心，在对bucks的那场球的第三，四节不再
跑动，coach d开始意识到这个计划不太可能成功了。
- 又搞了几个不同的打法，包括甜瓜和林p&r, 甜瓜运球过半场等等。
- coach d 在星期三的morning shootaround之后接受了记者采访。这个时候他才意识
到，媒体不会放过他和甜瓜。所以他决定辞职
- 辞职之前他已经知道blazers的lo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5101 | 20 I am not sure if two coaches don't get along. Particularly if you think
coach D offered Woodson a job. But woodson has kinship with GM and Isiah
Thomas is true and he probably does not agree with coach D's playing style
which is hard to set the defense. defense is coach woodson's job.
Lin and Melo have a good relationship is true, this is also reported from
other sources.
I don't think Melo is as bad as people perceived. He has done what is good
for himself, also maybe what he thinks is better f... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 399 | 21 Be like Mike? No thanks
Reilly By Rick Reilly
ESPN The Magazine
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...ick&id=4477759
Michael Jordan's Hall of Fame talk was the Exxon Valdez of speeches. It was,
by turns, rude, vindictive and flammable. And that was just when he was
trying to be funny. It was tactless, egotistical and unbecoming. When it was
done, nobody wanted to be like Mike.
And yet we couldn't stop watching. Because this was an inside look into the
mindset of an icon who'd never let anybody ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9501 | 22 Requiem for a LinBy Will Leitch Facebook Twitter ShareThis Counter Email We
probably should have been more suspicious of Jeremy Lin's knee injury than
we were. For the past week or so, we didn't blink when coach Mike Woodson
said "if" Lin comes back, when the Knicks kept Lin away from the press for a
few days, when Lin was being scratched from the lineup earlier and earlier
each day. We guess we just didn't want to believe it. But it's true: Jeremy
Lin isn't coming back.
Some frayed knee cartila... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3962 | 23 Very good point. Just like the MVPs, it is
about opinion.
Let's take a look at John Stockton.
He has never won a championship.
He has never been named an MVP by the media.
Where does he stands?
I would put him in top 5 of of the point guards,
behind Magic Johnson, and Isiah Thomas, but ahead
of Jason Kidd (1 ring), Steve Nash (2MVP),
and Gary Payton (1 ring + 1 DPOY).
also
never |
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发帖数: 3962 | 24 一发不可收拾。顺便分享我对控卫的看法。
控卫太难排了。肯定有很多歧义。我觉得
前四名还好。
1. Magic Johnson
2. Oscar Robertson (why is big-O listed as PG?)
3. Isiah Thomas
4. John Stockton
5. Gary Payton
6. Jason Kidd*
7. Steve Nash*
8. Tony Parker*
8. Rajon Rondo*
9. Chauncey Billups*
9. Derrick Rose*
10. Andrea Miller*
11. Russell Westbrook*
12. Deron Williams*
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发帖数: 538 | 25 Very interesting (but very long) story about Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry
if you have time to read it. I feel it's very intriguing even for our
ordinary people's ordinary life.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7887970/the-divergent-caree
Jonathan Abrams on May 4, 2012
NBA executives from nearly every franchise packed a St. Louis gym in
December of 2000 to catch a glimpse at the future. The game at the Shop N
Save–KMOX Shootout — the marquee prep event of the year — featured Eddy
Curry from T... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 32207 | 26 MJ从来不会为了追逐总冠军去加入bird, magic, isiah.
尽欢，能27岁拿总冠军，绝不30+拿总冠军。
的内心肯定是希望总冠军拿到手软，等30+再抱粗腿，顶天拿1，2个总冠军，虽然不会
被人像现在这么笑话，但也还是underachieve。
笑柄，要是拿了1+的总冠军，那the decision就是一个小插曲，成长的烦恼吗。 |
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发帖数: 5101 | 28 其实林有多大的决定权呢。nky从来就没给个offer, 让他自己test FA market，那林只
能按市场规矩来办了。火箭给啥offer 都得接受啊，否则没offer。尼玛不可能多给
6millions 不接受吧，这他妈是市场规矩吧，其实nyk没啥可生气的。之前木耳放话有
点烟幕弹的效果，其实挺奇怪的。从生意上分析，nyk肯定是该match的，肯定赚不赔呀
，可是JD那煞笔啥蠢事都干得出来，丫又听Isiah的煞笔意见,肯定是不favor林的。没
办法，作为nba的新事物，小林还得一遍一遍从新证明自己，这个theme可能得伴随他整
个nba生涯。对小林的期待还是满满的，只要身体顶得住，小林就能成功。 |
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发帖数: 5101 | 29 你丫喝酒过来的？
小林不是原被选定参加对抗组的吗？意思是啥事都可能发生啊，这不Kyrie给费了吗。
这事摊在林的身上，又没合同，你让小林去哪吃饭。
这就是为啥谈合同前不能搞这种风险。木耳前几天不高兴小林退出，说小林错过锻炼自
己的良机。丫对小林后来不能打季候后两场也有点儿微词，不过我当时是以为尼客的
front office可能是想保护林，有长远打算。不过想一想isiah 帮，就可以想像小林的
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发帖数: 5101 | 30 the benefit from Lin will still last for the next season since season
tickets have been sold out in a "LIN" price. They definitely lost a lot of
asian fans and TV subscribers. But those are fine with Knicks. I think
Knicks just don't foresee Lin as a potential star in the future,
particularly if you think about woodson is coaching and Melo is the man. Not
neccessarily Melo is hating on Lin, they just don't mesh well, but frankly,
I think Lin has adapted pretty well since Woodson took over. But t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5101 | 31 其实如果rockets没出现pg危机的话，knicks的算计真的要成功了，18.8／3 years, 就
跟knicks预计的没差多少。但他们没看到rockets的新变化。james dolan就是个义气用
事的公子哥，比较听他认为懂行的 Isiah Thomas和他的同伙们的意见，包括GM和木耳
。这些人本身就不太看好小林在以瓜为中心的作用，但也不会认为林就是个bust。所以
待价而估，也正好顺水推舟。 |
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发帖数: 35028 | 32 从hupu上看到一个贴子，作者开发了一种算法，将球星每场比赛的“战斗力”进行了计
算和排名，不是历史地位排名，而是一场比赛的即战力排名。似乎有点意思。作为一家
之言，可以参考看看
http://bbs.hupu.com/4002913.html
基本设定是：算一个球员前1000场平均成绩（不够1000场的算目前场次）；对一些特殊
类型球员场次特殊处理；对73年以前的stl和blk进行假设；对上古时代篮板数打折处理
其余设定和说明可看原帖。
基本计算方法：
1.1000场平均得分乘以1。
2.1000场平均助攻加权乘以2.25。(1次成功助攻能帮助球队得分平均是2.25分)
3.1000场平均篮板加权乘以1.78。（1次进攻球权平均可得1.07分。1次篮板可减少敌队
1次进攻球权，增加我队1次进攻球权，但因为有防守篮板的因素影响，篮板加权不宜比
抄截高，因为防守篮板有某种必然性跟团队性：敌队没进的球，我队抢到防守篮板的机
率就是比较高，这跟团队卡位、人员站位有关，而且抢防守篮板的工作大多是已经设定
给中锋或大前锋优先去抢）
4.1000场平均抄截加权乘以2.14。（1次进攻球权平均可得1... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 35028 | 33
看效率大致就行了，排名不分先后，稍有偏差，但基本靠谱
1-20 超巨
20-50 巨星
50-200 球星
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.25
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.63
7. Chris Paul 25.45
8. Bob Pettit* 25.35
9. Tim Duncan 24.78
10. Neil Johnston* 24.69
11. Charles Barkley* 24.63
12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
13. Magic Johnson* 24.11
14. Karl Malone* 23.90
15. Dirk Nowitzki 23.63
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
17. Larry Bird* 23.50
18. Kobe Br... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 288 | 34 Isiah Thomas当年封死MJ，这个是让我最有感触的 |
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发帖数: 844 | 35 大家嚼着俺组建的这支球队怎么样？NBA All First Name Team——全部由以名为姓的
现役球员组成。以下是球队的十五人大名单，三人教练组，外加十个候选的。
先发:
Dwight Howard (C)
Zach Randolph (PF)
LeBron James (SF)
Chris Paul (PG)
Tony Allen (SG)
替补:
Nazr Mohammed (C)
David Lee (C/F)
Rashard Lewis (PF)
Carmelo Anthony (SF)
Paul George (SF)
Kevin Martin (SG)
Ray Allen (SG)
Jason Terry (SG)
Jarrett Jack (PG)
Derrick Rose (PG)
教练:
George Karl
Byron Scott
Isiah Thomas
候选球员：
Joel Anthony (C)
Kurt Thomas (C)
Juwan Howard (F)
Kenyon Martin (F)
Shawn Marion (F)
Kawhi Leona... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5101 | 36 another Isiah Thomas in making... |
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发帖数: 5101 | 37 isiah Thomas, Jason Kidd, Kevin McHale...
很难搞到championship教练吧。
反倒是老骗子，金凯里这种更成功。河文挡就算他狗屎运吧。 |
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发帖数: 10605 | 38 两个人都是不是contender级别球队的当家PG料，Lin季后赛无证明（或者证明了伤病还
是各种原因不硬），Isiah更是还很多未知数，而且到了季后赛他的确很可能是对方的
主攻方向 |
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发帖数: 6080 | 39 季后赛30 8 8
1 LeBron James F 2006 2013 12
2 Michael Jordan* G 1989 1997 9
3 Larry Bird* F 1986 1990 7
4 Kobe Bryant G 2001 2010 5
5 Clyde Drexler* G 1990 1992 5
6 Isiah Thomas* G 1985 1987 4
7 Charles Barkley* F 1986 1993 3
8 Baron Davis G 2002 2007 2
9 Kevin Durant F 2013 2014 2
10 Magic Johnson* G ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5818 | 40 Lebron, "I played with cramps"
Jordan, "so what, I played with flu-like symptoms"
Magic, "cute! I played with HIV"
I'm not fan of LeBron but I respect him. Lost a little of that tonight. He
embarrassed himself and the NBA.
Isiah: I put up 43 pts/ 8 rebs / 6 assts, including 25 pts in the 3rd
quarter, on a severely sprained ankle, to force a Finals Game 7.
This is the GOOD ONE：
Pretty ironic the heat can't handle the "heat" |
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发帖数: 126 | 41 以前也许有人贴过。其实还是有不少人。就列一些我知道的球星，其他在链接中都有。
亮点：GDP都没换过。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_players_who_have_spent
摘要一下：
John Stockton
Reggie Miller
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
Dirk Nowitzki
Jerry West
David Robinson
Bill Russell
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Isiah Thomas
Tony Parker
Manu Ginóbili
Rudy Tomjanovich
Dwyane Wade
Jameer Nelson
Anderson Varejão |
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发帖数: 4507 | 42 2000之後選秀第二順位除了KD跟Aldridge(Parker跟Oladipo還有待觀察)之外其他都是
地雷. 看起來KD應該是樂透選秀史上最偉大的第二順位球員.
2014/Jabari Parker
2013/Victor Oladipo
2012/Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
2011/Derrick Williams
2010/Evan Turner
2009/Hasheem Thabeet
2008/Michael Beasley
2007/Kevin Durant
2006/LaMarcus Aldridge
2005/Marvin Williams
2004/Emeka Okafor
2003/Darko Milicic
2002/Jay Williams
2001/Tyson Chandler
2000/Stromile Swift
1999/Steve Francis
1998/Mike Bibby
1997/Keith Van Horn
1996/Marcus Camby
1995/Antonio McDyess
1994/Jason Kidd... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8443 | 43 1. Magic Johnson Stats: 19.5 PPG 11.2 APG 5.5 RPG 1.9 SPG
2. Oscar Robertson Stats: 25.7 PPG 9.5 APG 7.5 RPG
3. Isiah Thomas Stats: 19.2 PPG 9.3 APG 3.6 RPG 1.9 SPG
4. John Stockton Stats: 13.1 PPG 10.5 APG 2.1 RPG 2.2 SPG
5. Jerry West Stats: 27.0 PPG 6.7 APG 5.8 RPG
6. Jason Kidd Stats: 12.6 PPG 8.7 APG 6.3 RPG 1.9 SPG
7. Walt Frazier Stats: 18.9 PPG 6.1 APG 5.9 RPG
8. Bob Cousy Stats: 18.4 PPG 7.5 APG 5.2 RPG
9. Gary Payton Stats: 16.3 PPG 6.7 APG 3.9 RPG 1.8 SPG
10. Steve Nash Stats: 14.4 PP... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 21961 | 44 列个自己的前5控卫：
Magic Johnson, Jerry West和Isiah Thomas 并列，John Stockton, Jason Kidd |
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发帖数: 5314 | 46 永远都会。如果那么容易忘记的话，isiah thomas现在就是魔鸟级别的。 |
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o**4
发帖数: 35028 | 47 isiah不是魔鸟级别，是因为他的道德？
难道不是因为他的干货不如魔鸟？ |
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o**4
发帖数: 35028 | 48 你的原话在这，
你是怎么得出isiah thomas是因为道德导致他不是魔鸟级别的？ |
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发帖数: 3041 | 49 Bob Cousy: 1954–1958
Tom Heinsohn: 1958–1965
Oscar Robertson: 1965–1974
Paul Silas: 1974–1980
Bob Lanier: 1980–1985
Junior Bridgeman: 1985 – February 1988
Alex English: February 1988 – October 5, 1988
Isiah Thomas: October 5, 1988 – February 13, 1994
Buck Williams: February 13, 1994 – September 15, 1997
Patrick Ewing: September 15, 1997 – July 10, 2001
Michael Curry: July 10, 2001 – June 28, 2005
Antonio Davis: June 28, 2005 – November 19, 2006
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