v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 1 thanks for encouragement. check the attachment for the shot map. also first
try to add picture to articles.
the first shot splashed through tree leafs.didn't see ball flight and how it
landed. the landing zone is close to a concrete lane. might have gotten
some bounce from concrete. if that's the case, 180m is over estimate.
second shot had very high trajectory due to shot from up slope, so when it
was dropping, seemed like steep angle dropping (almost verticle).
other day, shot 4 iron several t |
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 2 nice map and illustration of the shots!
maybe nice time when you play on the course, you can illustrate it this way
as well and post it here. then people can see how you hit your drivers and
irons.
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 3 last time i played on a practice golf course (pleasanton golf center)
one hole, pin distance on tee sign board is 137 yards. i put the ball about
10 yards back from the tee. use 8 iron (my usual distance for 8 is about 150
), landed on the green. however, the ball bounced off green to left side.
see the attached map. i got par at this hole.
how come ball flight straight, but bounce to leftside?? the green is flat
and clean of alien objects. you shot bounce like this too?
if this is common, th |
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 4 i never tried nike cci. based on what you described, you may want to try
titleist 755. it's good looking and has a reasonable feel to it. taylor r7
tp could be another one you may like.
mizuno's are great, but they do have smaller sweet spot than similar irons
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q******3
发帖数: 622 | 5 honest set of iron，这词好哇。
我也是有这种想法。golf的amazing之处是需要自己细细琢磨。慢慢玩。
我知道一个朋友的朋友打golf就是enjoy golf。他水平很不错。但他基本不score，怎
么爽怎么打。who hits the ball a MILE and has a super-fast swing but is much
better off with a very flexy shaft. He can't get decent results with stiff
shafts at all - which is backwards to the prevailing theory。
ge
lon
daun
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t*****n
发帖数: 467 | 6 equip这东西，只要自己用着顺手， 拿在手上有信心就行。Good for you that you
like your choice.
iron |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 7 i noticed similiar thing, but it is between my driver and 3wood.
my driver tend to slice, while my 3wood seems always hook.
assume not too much difference at my swing (i think there are), i think the
club setup might be the major factor. my ping 3wood is "close", now i
believe that would the case contributing hook.
since the long saga of my taylormade 3wood purchasing, i didnt get chance to
test my theory yet.
maybe you can demo other manufacture's driver or long iron to see if that
makes the di |
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p***t
发帖数: 51 | 8
if
The problem is that I am very consistent in terms of the inconsistency
between driver and long irons, :-) |
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p***t
发帖数: 51 | 9 I am sure that my swing changes from time to time, but not necessarily from
club to club. I use taylormade r7 irons from 3-PW, talormade rescue 2, but a
driver from Cleveland. I guess it might be that my Cleveland hibore driver
is naturally draw (i highly doubt it, though. coz it did not say so. it is
reguar.) and my current swing produces fade...
Still feel weird. I used to hook or draw every club. this year I spent a lot
of time to reduce my wild hook. but how come i still got slight draw from |
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p***t
发帖数: 51 | 10 Sorry guys, I meant my driver slightly draws, but my fairway wood and hybrid
painfully slice. My long iron, 3 or 4 also slice from time to time...
long
it |
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t*****n
发帖数: 467 | 11 I love my hybrid. my favorite club in my bag. replace my 5wd or 3 iron.
ET doesn't use hybrid if I remember correctly, he carry 3 and 5wd. he
probably has a 7 wd. |
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p******g
发帖数: 321 | 12 Been watching a lot of tour recently and saw lot of Pros using hybrids. And
the commentator keeps saying that it makes more sense for armatures to get
one too. Being able to hit long irons well is definitely something to be
proud of and to brag about, but most people can always get better result
with hybrids. |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 13 normally, faster swing speeder prefer hybrid over woods. same spec. hybrid
hits ball further than woods . ( i don't know how it happens, but it happens
.)
the reason I don't hit hybrid is that I want to keep consistent regarding my
club selections. I've been using cobra offset woods for 1 1/2 year, and
really like them. So i select the 7-wood to replace my 3 iron which I think
it's a good decision. (i am still debating the selection, but I'll keep as
it is for a while.)
hybrid, normally, has a |
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q******3
发帖数: 622 | 14 我也不知道。还没有own呢。呵呵。
不过从ET的帖子里面感觉7 wood可以替代3 or 4 Iron。
我希望7木可以打170-180码。加强3跟4铁的weak point。 |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 15 21 degree loft, replacement for 3 iron.
expect to be about 200 yards. |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 16 it's true. i use my 7-wood to replace my 3iron. but i choke down to hit some
4 iron distance when i want to hit ball high. sometimes, even for 5iron
distance. ( i still hit 5/4 when i want to hit ball low to against wind.)
if you are confident about ur other fairway woods, and it's a good idea to
keep them consitent. make sense, right? |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 17 spent two hours practicing on golf course Saturday afternoon, not very many people. mainly practice iron play tee shot, using 250yard,300yard par-4 holes of the course
repeatedly. video a lot of shots. will post later on after study and editing.
best shots highlights
3i to 206-208 yards (slight fade, feel hit very solid and strength applied, thin pick off turf without divot, 188-190m = 206-208 yards, trajectory gradual rise to decent height at far end before dropping. carry distance could be c |
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p***t
发帖数: 51 | 18 reaching 210 yards in 3 iron means you are a very long hitter, b ut how come
your driver only reaches 230. you should have potential to carry at least
260. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 19 i have a buddy like that, very good iron play, but does not do well with
wood or driver.
for around 200 yards par3, i tee off with wood or hybrid, he tee off with 3i.
actually, he doesnt even carry a driver. i tried to lend him driver or woods
, but he just cant handle, so he stick with his 3i.
come |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 20 the 2nd is good for beginner.
email to the sellers to tell them it's mistake.
they might ask you pay the list fee tho.
iron |
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r*********l
发帖数: 120 | 21 我是新手，7 iron落地点在120到130码间，然后可以滚到150码左右吧。
看着在driving range上的高手可以打得颇高颇大的弧度然后再落地，不知道一般人能
打多高多远 |
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r*********l
发帖数: 120 | 22 thanks yellowstone7
learned sth today for the iron downswing |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 23 感觉HYBRID不是很好DRAW球，WORKABILITY还是不如IRON
直线球我还是会用HYBRID |
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p****4
发帖数: 517 | 24 I agree. Forge iron feels so good when the ball finds the sweet spot.
Big cavity seems to kill that flush feeling. |
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p****4
发帖数: 517 | 25 You must be a much better golfer than I am.
I was only talking about the impact.
iron,
hits, |
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f*t
发帖数: 382 | 26 Yes, the forge iron is the way to go.
Big cavity is longer but with a bigger spread, if you have no distance
issue, then you should not go with it. |
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z**z
发帖数: 231 | 27 Say I use a 7 iron and take 2 shots, one from rough and one from fairway,
both have pretty good lie. If I use about same amount of power, what's the
distance difference approximately? 0-5 yds, 5-10yds, >10yds? |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 28 商纣王 送 妲己 (封神演義 21st century version), cctv 4
发信人: vankie (似水流年| Master Wugui), 信区: Golf
标 题: Re: 又来问问题，关于宏马的 iron set
纯金杆头内嵌蓝宝石，金丝楠木或者沉香檀木的杆身，眼镜王蛇皮的grip， 每根再配一
个巴黎什么什么区某个拐角处每 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 29 i am in the same boat.
i dont know why yet. but since my driver and my iron swing plane is very dif
ferent, it is not surprise to me. now i usually swing few hybrid in between,
and my 3wood and hyrbid are the most steady one for now. |
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c******e
发帖数: 746 | 30 恩,调整过swing plane 了,还是没有效果. 感觉是impact的时候,club face变形了.
郁闷啊,要是现在IRONS的水平能恢复到以前,8字头唾手可得啊....
dif
between, |
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q******3
发帖数: 622 | 31 这里太冷清了。天冷不影响灌水呀。呵呵。
今天我做了个test。 swing driver用几乎水平的磨盘swing，结果很容易打180码左右
。把我郁闷
的。我花了吃奶的力气打driver也就是200多一点。
我感觉driver的swing 磨盘swing的成分很大。磨盘swing的特点是最后release一定要
松。
driver的swing plane flat，但是感觉后手需要用很多力气。
iron swing就很少磨盘swing的成分，主要是leading hand带动的上体rotation。swing
plane很steep，相对于driver。后手用力很少，尤其短杆，7号以上。
高手都说swing应该一种，无论什么杆。你们都是这样的感觉吗？ |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 32 我也是没看大懂，不过据朋友说WOODS SWING跟IRON SWING应该相似更好，而我自己
的CASE不是 |
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b********5
发帖数: 253 | 33 我的感觉是WOOD的SWING和IRON的应该一样。。。或者说SWING都一样，要不然多种
SWING很难记,很难重复。 |
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C******0
发帖数: 19 | 34 You made very good point. 上周末去练球，发现以前最有信心的driver，woods 怎么
都打不好了，球往天上飞，但是没有距离。倒是iron都不错。我想应该是你说的原因.
水平的SWING should help. |
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n**h
发帖数: 154 | 35 If then give me give a free 6-iron, I can try it first and then decide to
buy the whole set or not. |
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d******s
发帖数: 674 | 36 just got an email notice saying I was selected to receive a free 6-iron.
wow, never won things like this. lol |
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w******8
发帖数: 977 | 38 我也很头疼我的inconsistency的问题，偶尔打的好感觉很爽，但很快又失去感觉。所
以我的看法也就是纸上谈兵，咱们交流一下。divot behind ball有两个原因，一是重
心向前不够，二是没能keep lag,iron过早release.我想你应该打的不错，所以不应该
是重心问题。那就应该是release过早，导致bottom out过早，造成divot behind ball
or hit thin. 这种情况下如果地很硬很容易伤手腕，因为impact时手在club head后
面，震荡都传到手上了。假设你swing的各个环节都掌握的不错，那就可能是grip太紧
，导致右手手腕紧张，down swing时过早使力，失去lag.可以试试放松grip and wrist
,把手腕当成一个使不上劲的轴，这样能最大限度保持lag,手过了球clubhead才触球。
我看过一篇文章觉得很有启发，尤其是关于pingman的那一段，（http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/power.htm）很好的解释了这个问题，文章里有pingman的swing video |
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f******d
发帖数: 390 | 39 driving range上的标志是ft还是yard？
IRON 对击中SWEET SPOT 的精确度要求更高 |
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w*******d
发帖数: 3714 | 40 jack撩出一根1 iron的日子已经一去不复返了，现在pro都带hybrid上场了，对业余的
来说，长铁已经渐渐的成为showoff的武器了哈哈 |
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 41 every man carry his 1 iron, just not really use it for the first 18 holes.
LOL |
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p****4
发帖数: 517 | 42 your distances are ok as a beginner.
The short iron shots suppose to stop with minimum roll. I would not add more
than 5 yards on the carry distance when I am in a round.
100 |
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u*********r
发帖数: 2735 | 43 for people can hit 9 iron 155, driving 300 is reasonable. |
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c********r
发帖数: 69 | 44 我想买一套杆，请教一下这iron和graphite有什么区别？graphite是给水平比较高的人
用的吗？我去店里试了试，graphite更轻一点，比较好控制。但是我才学了半年，而且
只有周末才有机会去练练。 |
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b******e
发帖数: 671 | 45 如果你说的是IRONS. 应该是STEEL VS GRAPHITE. 和你想的正相反, STEEL是给水平高
的人用的. STEEL更ACCURATE一点. GRAPHITE是给挥的慢的人用的. |
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i***f
发帖数: 40 | 46 俺8 IRON才能打130, 弹道很高，在果岭上基本3码以内能停球，很满意了。对于业余选
手来说，能够准，能够CONSISTENT才重要吧。 |
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y**********7
发帖数: 769 | 47 我看不然. 就在昨天,在练习场看到一年轻人,DRIVER可以打出三百码,几乎每个球都能
被打出FENCE,准确性也不错,可是他的IRON一塌糊涂,球到处乱飞,可以说连谱都不贴.
他的头在起杆时要向右移动两个头的距离. 他的这种SWING也许只适合打DRIVER,打铁杆
就不行了.
还有,我的一个朋友,几年前从东部来看我,他从来没摸过杆. 我就带他去练习场试一把.
我先给他一枝短铁杆,可他却问我哪个杆可以打得最远. 当我告诉他DRIVER可以打得最
远时,他便要先抡DRIVER. 那时我DRIVER也不行,就劝他最好还是由易到难,但他执意要
试DRIVER,我也没辙,只能由他试. 我先告诉他要点,让他转身带动手臂,他试挥几次后就
击球了. 没想到他第一个球就打了150码,方向也很好. 再打几个球,也不错,算是让我开
了眼.
现在我还有一个朋友有时一起练习,他的DRIVER和铁杆不能两全. DRIVER好了,铁杆就不
行了,铁杆好了,DRIVER就要HOOK.
在教学方面有两种理论.一是由易到难,具体就是球杆由短到长. 这种理论的好处是容易
上手,循序渐进. 另一是先难后易,先练长杆,理 |
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t*******5
发帖数: 300 | 48 我3 iron过220，我都开始琢磨着换4 h了。过200，我一般不考虑做球，没那本事～～
～ 3h用graphite，4用steel的 shaft |
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u******m
发帖数: 307 | 49 I own both. It is all depends on the situation. If it is windy or the course
is by the ocean or lake then I will hit a lot of knock down shots, long
iron is much easier for that. For calm day, hybrid is much easier to get the
ball to the air. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 50 hybrids are much easier to hit.
if you dont have time to practice as pros do, forget about long irons, use h
ybrids. that might be a quote i read from somewhere. |
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