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发帖数: 8775 | 1 是啊。圣经中常说我们的肉体是有罪的。
Galatians 5
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the
flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the
Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other,
so that you are not to do whatever[c] you want. 18 But if you are led by the
Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 2 是啊。圣经中常说我们的肉体是有罪的。但是我们对上帝有信心，相信他会原谅我们的
罪。现在，他并用圣经武装我们，让我们抵御自己不好的欲望，尽量做到爱人如己。
Galatians 5
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the
flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the
Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other,
so that you are not to do whatever you want. 18 But if you are led by the
Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
debauch... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 3 是啊。圣经中常说我们的肉体是有罪的。
Galatians 5
16 So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the
flesh. 17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the
Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other,
so that you are not to do whatever[c] you want. 18 But if you are led by the
Spirit, you are not under the law.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 4 显然我之前引用的和常识已经可以回答1了。
跟家人有什么关系？
信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向罪恶是很可惜的。
耶稣告诉基督徒要不断的完善自己，爱人如己。同时基督教还相信撒旦的存在，所以基
督徒不光要跟自己身上的罪斗争，还要抵御撒旦的诱惑。基督徒去除自身的罪是一个过
程，直到身体死亡都在进行的过程。
通常的理解是基督徒都是常做好事，不犯错。其实这应该是基督徒试图在做的，但是看
到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
Galatians 5:13
You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
debauchery;... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 5 你的论证属于乱解圣经。
这是你之前用的经文：基督徒要减少做爱 gal 5:17
大多数英文版本根本没有“情欲”的意思，而是普遍的肉体的欲望，包括吃住，等等。
这里可能是和合本翻译的问题。你要多看看别的版本和studybible啊。这样误解下去可
不好。
后面保罗说明了这些nature of flesh都是那些：
Gal 5
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity,
sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger,
rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 21 envy,4 drunkenness, orgies, and things
like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such
things will not inherit the kingdom of God... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 6 太多了吧。
这是你说的：基督徒要减少做爱 gal 5:17
大多数英文版本根本没有“情欲”的意思，而是普遍的肉体的欲望，包括吃住，等等。
这里可能是和合本翻译的问题。你要多看看别的版本和study bible啊。这样误解下去
可不好。
后面保罗说明了这些nature of flesh都是那些：
Gal 5
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity,
sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger,
rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 21 envy,4 drunkenness, orgies, and things
like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such
things will not inherit the kingdom of God. |
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发帖数: 8775 | 7 信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向罪恶是很可惜的。
耶稣告诉基督徒要不断的完善自己，爱人如己。同时基督教还相信撒旦的存在，所以基
督徒不光要跟自己身上的罪斗争，还要抵御撒旦的诱惑。基督徒去除自身的罪是一个过
程，直到身体死亡都在进行的过程。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: s... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 8 信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向罪恶是很可惜的。
耶稣告诉基督徒要不断的完善自己，爱人如己。同时基督教还相信撒旦的存在，所以基
督徒不光要跟自己身上的罪斗争，还要抵御撒旦的诱惑。基督徒去除自身的罪是一个过
程，直到身体死亡都在进行的过程。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: s... 阅读全帖 |
|
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发帖数: 8775 | 9 信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向罪恶是很可惜的。
耶稣告诉基督徒要不断的完善自己，爱人如己。同时基督教还相信撒旦的存在，所以基
督徒不光要跟自己身上的罪斗争，还要抵御撒旦的诱惑。基督徒去除自身的罪是一个过
程，直到身体死亡都在进行的过程。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: s... 阅读全帖 |
|
J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 10 信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向罪恶是很可惜的。
耶稣告诉基督徒要不断的完善自己，爱人如己。同时基督教还相信撒旦的存在，所以基
督徒不光要跟自己身上的罪斗争，还要抵御撒旦的诱惑。基督徒去除自身的罪是一个过
程，直到身体死亡都在进行的过程。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: s... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 11 信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向罪恶是很可惜的。
耶稣告诉基督徒要不断的完善自己，爱人如己。同时基督教还相信撒旦的存在，所以基
督徒不光要跟自己身上的罪斗争，还要抵御撒旦的诱惑。基督徒去除自身的罪是一个过
程，直到身体死亡都在进行的过程。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: s... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 12 有问题的怎么都是黑人牧师，你跟黑人牧师没仇吧。
信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向罪恶是很可惜的。
耶稣告诉基督徒要不断的完善自己，爱人如己。同时基督教还相信撒旦的存在，所以基
督徒不光要跟自己身上的罪斗争，还要抵御撒旦的诱惑。基督徒去除自身的罪是一个过
程，直到身体死亡都在进行的过程。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 13 虽然我个人不认为这些人是基督徒，一面啊给教会捐钱，一面又去领教会的免费食物卖
钱。从常理就说不过去。倒是某些人非要怀疑，而且是怎么贬低基督徒怎么怀疑，好像
基督徒拿不出那些人不是基督徒的证据，那些人就必须是基督徒一样。反个基督教何必
颠倒是非呢。
圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等
。显然真正的基督徒都会尽量听从圣经中的教导的。那些借着耶稣的名字作恶的人，能
叫基督徒么？
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 14 虽然我个人不认为这些人是基督徒，但是无法证明。但是按常理这些人不像基督徒，怎
么可能一面给教会捐钱，一面为了几块钱搞救济饭。
你们不过是怎么能贬低基督教怎么怀疑，但是怀疑毕竟是怀疑。
为穷人发放食品的是教会，你再怎么贬低也无法贬低帮助穷人的人吧。
圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impuri... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 15 首先，我不认为印第安人被灭族了，现在还有很多印第安人。
而且我看不出杀印第安人跟新约教导的关系。
如果你有证据说明基督徒参与了屠杀印第安人，请拿出来。
但是基督徒做的事不见得是圣经所教导的，甚至可能与圣经的教导向左。
有时人自己作恶，拿各种东西来做借口都不奇怪。圣经非常明确反对信徒作恶。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
debauchery; 2... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 16 信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，变得完美是一个终身的过程。有人看到基督徒犯了错，
就开始说信耶稣没用，但是这些人没有看到这个人信主前是什么样，也不知道如果这个
人不信主会怎样。所以这些评论都是没有依据的。不过即使是再虔诚的基督徒，也会犯
错。基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向犯下大错更是可惜。
耶稣告诉基督徒要不断的完善自己，爱人如己。同时基督教还相信撒旦的存在，所以基
督徒不光要跟自己身上的罪斗争，还要抵御撒旦的诱惑。基督徒去除自身的罪是一个过
程，直到身体死亡都在进行的过程。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freed... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 17 有人一看到牧师犯错就开始批评基督教。牧师不见得比普通的基督徒更虔诚。不是还有
牧师宣称自己不信神的么。尤其是新教，所有信徒都是平等的，牧师只是在讲道和神学
上懂得更多而已，但信心不见得比其他基督徒更强。耶稣告诉我们不要评判别人，这对
任何人都是适用的。我们不知道如果一个人不信主会怎么样，或是一个人信主前是怎么
样的，我们甚至不知道一个人的心里是怎么想的。我们只能根据外表和人的作为来判断
。这样判断显然是不准确的。不过即使是再虔诚的基督徒，也会犯错。基督徒有时忘了
神的教导而走向犯下大错更是可惜。
耶稣告诉基督徒要不断的完善自己，爱人如己。同时基督教还相信撒旦的存在，所以基
督徒不光要跟自己身上的罪斗争，还要抵御撒旦的诱惑。基督徒去除自身的罪是一个过
程，直到身体死亡都在进行的过程。
圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galati... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 18 但是圣经告诉人不要作恶。不明白为什么耶稣给人害人的借口。
耶稣告诉人爱人如己，爱自己的敌人，别人打左脸，把右脸也送上。不要诉诸武力。
Matthew 22:36-40
New International Version (NIV)
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with
all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest
commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself
.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 5:43-48
New Internatio... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 19 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。看
到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
人犯罪，不是上帝所希望的。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rat... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 20 有很多人自称基督徒，但是他们并不遵守圣经中的教导。而圣经中显然是反对信徒作恶
的。让上帝来做最终的审判吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣
给信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred,... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 21 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。看
到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and
debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealou... 阅读全帖 |
|
J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 22 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。看
到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 23 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedo... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 24 bigeyefish说的很对，你又在歪曲理解圣经了。
加 拉 太 書 5:17
Chinese Union Version (Simplified) (CUVS)
17 因 为 情 欲 和 圣 灵 相 争 ， 圣 灵 和 情 欲 相 争 ， 这 两 个 是 彼 此
相 敌 ， 使 你 们 不 能 做 所 愿 意 做 的 。
Galatians 5:17
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
17 For what the flesh desires is opposed to the Spirit, and what the Spirit
desires is opposed to the flesh; for these are opposed to each other, to
prevent you from doing what you want.
大多数英文版本根本没有“情欲”的意思，而是普遍的肉体的欲望，包括吃住，等等。
这里可能是和合本翻译的问题。你要多看看别的版本和studybible啊。这样误解下去可
不好。
后面保罗说明了这些nat... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 25 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are
outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do no... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 26 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
money
1 Timothy 6:10
New International Version (NIV)
10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people,
eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with
many griefs.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my bro... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 27 耶稣曾经讲过一个打扫屋子的故事，说信徒如果不注意自身的修为，反而更容易受撒旦
和恶灵的诱惑：
Luke 11
24 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid
places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to
the house I left.’ 25 When it arrives, it finds the house swept clean and
put in order. 26 Then it goes and takes seven other spirits more wicked than
itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that
person is worse than the first.”
路加福音11
24 污 鬼 离 了 人 身 ， 就 在 无 水 之 地 过 来 过 去 ， ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 28 你虽然举出了圣经，可是把犯罪当成了圣灵的果子。完全是自己跟自己矛盾。
信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，变得完美是一个终身的过程。有人看到基督徒犯了错，
就开始说信耶稣没用，但是这些人没有看到这个人信主前是什么样，也不知道如果这个
人不信主会怎样。所以这些评论都是没有依据的。不过即使是再虔诚的基督徒，也会犯
错。基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向犯下大错更是可惜。
对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:1... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 29 你所谓的“耶稣”是你臆想的。还是好好了解一下现实的基督教吧。
我认为这个牧师搞的比较奇怪。这些都是跟圣经的精神不相关的事。当然了基督徒尤其
是新教信徒没有等级之分。牧师也不过是一种职业。跟普通信徒没太大区别。
希望这些牧师可以记住圣经的告诫：
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 30 你所谓的“耶稣”是你臆想的。还是好好了解一下现实的基督教吧。
我认为这个牧师搞的比较奇怪。这些都是跟圣经的精神不相关的事。当然了基督徒尤其
是新教信徒没有等级之分。牧师也不过是一种职业。跟普通信徒没太大区别。
希望这些牧师可以记住圣经的告诫：
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge t... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 31 这是牧师做的，你如何证明这是神做的？
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣
给信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your
freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in ... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 32 信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，变得完美是一个终身的过程。有人看到基督徒犯了错，
就开始说信耶稣没用，但是这些人没有看到这个人信主前是什么样，也不知道如果这个
人不信主会怎样。所以这些评论都是没有依据的。不过即使是再虔诚的基督徒，也会犯
错。基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向犯下大错更是可惜。
对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Timothy 6:10
New International Version (NIV)
10... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 33 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do no... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 34 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣
给信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do no... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 35 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣
给信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do no... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 36 对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
Ted Haggard比他们比几个有名多了。看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复
强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
Sexualimorality
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.
1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil;
live as God's slaves.
Galatians 5:13
13 You, my brothers and sist... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 37 信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，变得完美是一个终身的过程。有人看到基督徒犯了错，
就开始说信耶稣没用，但是这些人没有看到这个人信主前是什么样，也不知道如果这个
人不信主会怎样。所以这些评论都是没有依据的。不过即使是再虔诚的基督徒，也会犯
错。基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向犯下大错更是可惜。
对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
哥林多前书 6
18 你们务要远离淫乱的行为。人无论犯什么样的罪，都是在身体以外，唯独淫乱的，
是得罪自己的身体。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against thei... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 38 哪个人的群体不犯错呢。如果一个和尚杀了人或是性侵，我们不能说所有和尚都是杀人
犯，或是色鬼。我们也不会因为一个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。
信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，变得完美是一个终身的过程。有人看到基督徒犯了错，
就开始说信耶稣没用，但是这些人没有看到这个人信主前是什么样，也不知道如果这个
人不信主会怎样。所以这些评论都是没有依据的。不过即使是再虔诚的基督徒，也会犯
错。基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向犯下大错更是可惜。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
哥林多前书 6
18 你们务要远离淫乱的行为。人无论犯什么样的罪，都是在身体以外，唯独淫乱的，
是得罪自己的身体。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoev... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 39 信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，变得完美是一个终身的过程。有人看到基督徒犯了错，
就开始说信耶稣没用，但是这些人没有看到这个人信主前是什么样，也不知道如果这个
人不信主会怎样。所以这些评论都是没有依据的。不过即使是再虔诚的基督徒，也会犯
错。基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向犯下大错更是可惜。
对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
Sexualimorality
哥林多前书 6
18 你们务要远离淫乱的行为。人无论犯什么样的罪，都是在身体以外，唯独淫乱的，
是得罪自己的身体。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, s... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 40 信耶稣不能把人瞬间变得完美，变得完美是一个终身的过程。有人看到基督徒犯了错，
就开始说信耶稣没用，但是这些人没有看到这个人信主前是什么样，也不知道如果这个
人不信主会怎样。所以这些评论都是没有依据的。不过即使是再虔诚的基督徒，也会犯
错。基督徒有时忘了神的教导而走向犯下大错更是可惜。
对于新教来说牧师只是在神学和讲道上更擅长些，不见得在信仰上比其他信徒更强。没
必要因为一个牧师犯错就否定整个基督教。哪个人的群体不犯错呢。我们也不会因为一
个中国人犯错，就否定所有中国人吧。
看到基督徒犯错也没必要大惊小怪。圣经曾反复强调信徒要避免继续作恶，不要把耶稣给
信徒的自由作为作恶的借口。等等。
Sexualimorality
哥林多前书 6
18 你们务要远离淫乱的行为。人无论犯什么样的罪，都是在身体以外，唯独淫乱的，
是得罪自己的身体。
1 Corinthians 6
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside
the body, but whoever sins sexually, s... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8336 | 41 国内来的人可能对人性的堕落败坏深有感触吧！人的罪是基督教显明的真理。唯有耶稣
基督能拯救人的灵魂，他受难为人类的罪付上了赎价，与神和好。关于罪，保罗在罗马
书有深刻的论述。
朋友，请认识耶稣吧!
罗马书1
19神的事情，人所能知道的，原显明在人心里。因为神已经给他们显明。
since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it
plain to them.
20自从造天地以来，神的永能和神性是明明可知的，虽是眼不能见，但借着所造之物，
就可以晓得，叫人无可推诿。
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal
power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what
has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21因为他们虽然知道神，却不当作神荣耀他... 阅读全帖 |
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S**U
发帖数: 7025 | 42 Some people encounters dharma, and get no benefit whatsoever from it. Some
get great benefits. If Lord Buddha is bothered that some of his audience has
impure mind, oh boy, then he is not enlightened :-) Lord Buddha considered
to remain silent after his enlightenment because he was aware that fools
were aplenty; he changed his mind only after he found some can benefit from
his teaching.
You can only purify your own mind, for your own benefit. Don't worry too
much of the mind of others. If you c... 阅读全帖 |
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S**U
发帖数: 7025 | 43 梵天劝请前，佛陀是思维佛法甚深，而众生烦恼重，无人能解，说法是白费劲。经劝请
，出于大悲心，以佛眼见有些众生烦恼少，能解，才接受劝请。
MN 26
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.026.than.html
"Then the thought occurred to me, 'This Dhamma that I have attained is deep,
hard to see, hard to realize, peaceful, refined, beyond the scope of
conjecture, subtle, to-be-experienced by the wise. But this generation
delights in attachment, is excited by attachment, enjoys attachment. For a
generation delighting in attachment, excited by attachment, enjoying
attac... 阅读全帖 |
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o*****s
发帖数: 1445 | 44 第二个落后是表现在人员的素质上面。major pharm，像GSK那种，里面就是最底层的人
也是名校出来的。我以前一个组的phd student，原来是lehigh的chemical
engineering bachelor。进merck就是一个operator,$50K而已。你想人家的员工是什么
素质。所以说大药厂里面，manufacturing的人专业知识相当的扎实。
2008年aiche在费城开会。里面专门有一个pilot plant的session。里面GSK跑来两个人
一起做presentation。一个是leheigh,the other from PSU。当时他们在谈的就是结晶
温度曲线的控制问题。底下听的有exxon mobile, dupont，whichever that company
can afford pilot plant。
结果居然没有一个人问：how to control and scale up。因为真正的化学工程师，一
听这种都会警觉。一般我们化工的控制，多数是停留在稳态的。他们是不稳态，还要
scale up。这个是非常要注意的地方。结果人家后来... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3492 | 45 Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:00:18 PDT
Earlier this week, The Next Web noted that some early purchasers of the
Retina MacBook Pro have been experiencing "ghosting" on their machines'
displays, with remnants of previously-displayed screen contents remaining
visible for some time afterward.
Some readers on the ASC forum have reported the image retention issue with
as little as 20 minutes worth of use. However it’s well worth noting that
the problem isn’t happening to everyone, and image retention isn’t
unc... 阅读全帖 |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 46 来自主题: Programming版 - 关于FP 你這個不正統的說法，其實在實踐上也沒錯。
不過有些 impure FP 事實上也用 mutable data, 所以你事實上
是在說 purity 的觀念。
FP 還有其他的內涵，比方說 Higher Order Function 之類的，
那就不是只用 immutable 就行了。 |
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p*****2
发帖数: 21240 | 47 来自主题: Programming版 - 关于FP
这两天搞明白了，即使impure FP也鼓励使用pure FP的style去写code， 因此尽量写
pure FP的code
另外，我个人感觉HOF是避免mutable的关键，因为需要mutable变量的操作给封装起来
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 48 来自主题: Programming版 - 关于FP 原則上是這樣，但是一個語言做成這樣就是廢物了， 沒辦法
接收 user input, 沒辦法 db access, 沒辦法產生 random number,
連讀出現在時間都不行， 所以要不然就 impure, 要不然就得去
用 monad。 |
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l******t
发帖数: 55733 | 49
OO可以对应中医，FP可以是西医。
为啥我觉得monad很elegant。。impure code在FP看来是非常的烫手非常的毒。 |
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p*****2
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倒牛到底喜欢还是不喜欢呀？
我现在追求在imperative和fp之间达成一种平衡。或者说是pure和impure codes之间的
一种平衡。 |
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