g*******e
发帖数: 937 | 1 大家对Hyundai Genesis的感觉如何？
看过几个专业评测都给了相当好的评价，consumer reports的排名也很高。除了
reliability以外，因为是第一年。
可是我的印象中韩国车的reliability总体都很烂。大家的意见如何？我觉得有空的话
想要去test drive一下。号称那个价格买到跟mercedes E级别的车（还是S，记不清了
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 2 Hyundai肯定是使了不少钱，媒体都那个吹啊……
实际呢？
论设计，个人觉得不但很多地方有抄袭的嫌疑，而且根本谈不上美观
尤其那个中网，像极了Star Trek里的一种外星人的脑门子
丑就一个字啊（Coupe还行，我说的是Sedan）
论技术？啥也不说了，引擎以前我评价过多次了，你就查查它的加速测试成绩吧
这样的马力数字的同级车加速都是什么水准，比一下吧 |
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g*******e
发帖数: 937 | 3 一大早起来被你的照片吓到！
我等一下去翻一翻你以前的帖子看看………………
不过，我网上查了一下，4.6的加速测试成绩还真的不是很烂。
The 4.6L engine produces 375 horsepower (280 kW) at 6,500 rpm and 333 lb·ft
at 3,500 rpm.[11] Hyundai has reported 0-60 mph times of less than 6
seconds.[9][12] Car and Driver reports a 0-60 mph time of 5.6 seconds,[13]
while Motor Trend reports a 0-60 mph time of 5.5 seconds in their October
2008 issue. |
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 4 你要看quartermile，现在的车0-60什么也看不出来
其实我一直在关注韩国车厂的进展
Genesis 4.6的quartermile最好成绩不过是14.0s（大多数测试还达不到这个数字）
而E550和550i都是13.3s，G8 GXP是13.5s，这都是功率、车重都差不太多的车，但成绩
就好了一大截
GS 460也有13.9s，但账面上的功率还要差一些
545i是13.7s，M45是13.8s，这都是账面功率差了一大截的了
甚至6缸车如535i、GS 350、GS 450h这些也都能进14s俱乐部
这其中的差别，你自己体会吧
完后你再回到引擎问题上，算算BMEP，你就知道Hyundai的真实水平到底进展到了什么
程度
我不是对韩国车厂的进步感到不舒服，相反，我很高兴看到他们在进步
只不过，他们现在吹得这么邪乎就过份了……
ft |
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 5 没看出有多大问题，而且，如果变速器匹配和车的定位不相符
本身就属于严重的低级错误，Hyundai还不至于 |
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l**********l
发帖数: 4468 | 6 这个不知道是不是借口。
It's impossible to say exactly why the Genesis coupe isn't putting up better
numbers. But we do know that there's a torque-reduction feature on this car
that would suck some of the fun out of Conrod Straight. Accelerate hard in
1st gear and then do a hard upshift to 2nd at or just before the marked 6,
500-rpm redline. You'll get your upshift, but as the revs drop back, you'll
feel an additional, artificial cut in power. It lasts for about 3 seconds
Hyundai says this is a drivetrain p |
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 7 尻，这6MT还真是屎啊
Genesis的6MT是Hyundai的，6AT是ZF的
刚看到MT两个版本都测了，6MT做出了14.2s，比C/D和Edmunds都稍好
但总的来说，还是很烂的一个数字
而6AT反而做出14.0s，快了0.2s，而且看EPA的city mpg，6AT还要高上1mpg
Korean engineering和German engineering的差别啊 |
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t********1
发帖数: 6 | 8 请问各位，觉得2010的Hyundai Tucson如何？本人想买一辆compact SUV，看了一些杂
志上过于
Tucson的评价还不错，而且它的价钱不算高。请问各位还有什么其它好推荐？ |
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k**0
发帖数: 19737 | 9 EVO X的引擎听说是hyundai的, TURBO是三菱的. |
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f******t
发帖数: 7283 | 10 Hyundai这个2.0T用的还是twin-scroll turbocharger呢...... |
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f******t
发帖数: 7283 | 11 Hyundai这个2.0T让Audi那个211马力的2.0T相形见拙啊。 |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 13 有点儿衰,不过考虑是hyundai,相对他们以前的表现已经算可以了 |
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d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 16 嗯，别到时搞个FRS Hybrid出来。hyundai也怪了，没有直喷没有hybrid，居然能有
40mpg |
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h****y
发帖数: 9234 | 17 在ebay找playseat.看到一个叫什么GTR playseat的(感觉很山寨的品牌),介绍里面有这
么一句
Its not that we broke the mold, we just never used one.
...
刚刚去看hyundai的equus的网页, 这一句大大地写在那里...所以印象深刻.... |
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 20 刚看了下报道，转速只有4500rpm，也不奇怪……毕竟14.8的理论压缩比，又是增压，
比一般的汽油turbo直喷机可能缸压还是高，更接近柴油机一些。不过问题是我怀疑
Hyundai能否搞定NOx排放问题，不要搞到最后发现也要向柴油机一样搞那么复杂的排放
净化系统，那样的话成本可就奔柴油机去了…… |
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j**i
发帖数: 184 | 21 汽油机只要不搞稀燃 nox 不是问题 三元无压力
这套双增压系统很多都搞过 连量产过的vw现在都放弃了
机械增压效率低 跟这个miller循环的初衷不是很配
我估计还是Hyundai的直喷燃烧系统不行 这是决定低扭和瞬态的关键因素 只好找机械
增压来提高这方面
话说这么高压缩比 在低速大负荷的时候得要多低的充气效率 多延迟的点火角 多大的
增压比 才能达到他的目标 而后面这些因素把效率降得一逼
这货就只能搞个好看的功率扭矩数字 油耗看起来也很牛B 因为主要还是测部分负荷。
。。实际开起来油门踩得猛一点油耗必然猛增 |
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c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 22 看报道是和Delphi合研的，应该在燃烧系统方面对Hyundai有很大帮助吧
具体性能只能等实物上市以后才能真正了解了…… |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 23 DICI这个概念确实已经好久了,没想到hyundai是第一个搞量产的! |
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D***0
发帖数: 5214 | 24 还是贴上Hyundai的标了，不用那个山寨的小翅膀咯。 |
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D***0
发帖数: 5214 | 25 还是贴上Hyundai的标了，不用那个山寨的小翅膀咯。 |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 26 I just saw this national advertisemen t in the Wall Street Journal today.
The Hyundai Genesis has received very good reviews and this deal is quite
good for those seeking a lease on a luxury sedan. The model advertised is a
2010 Genesis 3.8L V6 and is well equipped. Deal expires on 9/30/10.
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 27 On the main page of the Xbox Live dashboard there is a tab (see picture)
offering a free Hyundai Veloster Xbox avatar shirt. Says a code will be
emailed no later than April 17th. YMMV as im not sure this will show up for
everyone.
Terms and conditions
Link:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Community/Promotions/veloster-t-shirt
Offer good until 11:59 p.m. PT March 31, 2012 while supplies of 34,000 male
and/or 47,300 female avatar t-shirts last, to Xbox LIVE Gold or free members
who are legal residents o... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 28 Link:
http://www.focalprice.com/CE0031B/HYUNDAI_A7_7_Capacitive_5poin
Highlights 7" capacitive
Android 4.0 OS
Resolution: 800x480
HD capacity up to 8G
Supports 3G, USB Dongle, Wi-Fi
Supports mini HDMI interface
Supports 3D games
Supports Gravity Sensor
Supports up to 32GB TF card
General Specs
Brand HYUNDAI
Model A7
Product Type Tablet PC
Operating System Android 4.0
Processor Type Cortex-A8
Chip Quanzhi A10
Processor Clock Speed 1.5G
Cache Memory 512M
RAM/Technology ... 阅读全帖 |
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i****x
发帖数: 17565 | 29 http://www.auto-decibel-db.com/
我只贴了idle和70mph，按70mph排列
Brand Model Year dB at idle dB at 70mph
Dodge Ram 2010 39,2 56,1
Mercedes E 2010 43,1 56,4
Acura TL 2010 39,9 57,6
Lexus LS 2008 38,7 58,9
Kia Sorento 2011 34,5 59,0
Kia Sorento 2011 34,5 59,0
Subaru Legacy 2010 37,4 59,0
Cadillac CTS 2010 42,2 59,9
Lincoln MKT 2010 39,3 60,0
Ford F-150 2010 37,5 60,3
Mercedes ... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******i
发帖数: 2162 | 30 Full Year 2012 Top 1000 Ranking Table below.
World Full Year 2012:
All Model 2012
1 Toyota Corolla 1,097,132
2 Ford Focus 1,036,683
3 Hyundai Elantra 829,192
4 Toyota Camry 797,466
5 Ford F-Series 785,028
6 Chevrolet Cruze 784,014
7 VW Passat/Magotan 782,694
8 Nissan Tiida/Versa/Sunny 774,846
9 VW Golf 750,466
10 Ford Fiesta 742,037
11 VW Polo/Vento 733,678
12 Toyota Yaris/Vitz/Vios 708,619
13 Hyundai Accent 683,871
14 Honda Civic 656,164
15 Toyota Hilux 637,706
16 Honda CR-V 635,256
17 Opel Ast... 阅读全帖 |
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y*********a
发帖数: 66 | 31 CARFAX
2007 HYUNDAI SONATA SE/LIMITED
VIN: 5NPEU46F27H212277
Follow CARFAX:
Follow @CarfaxReports
For Personal Use Only
CARFAX Vehicle History Report
Vehicle Information:
2007 HYUNDAI SONATA SE/LIMITED
VIN: 5NPEU46F27H212277
SEDAN 4 DR
3.3L V6 FI DOHC 24V
FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
Minor damage reported
Minor damage reported
CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle
CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle
Service information available
18 Service records available
Registered as a personal veh... 阅读全帖 |
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a**i
发帖数: 608 | 32 Mercedes-Benz E350 vs Hundai Sonata Limited 2.0T
Trading Places: A Value Comparison
What's the difference between a $50,000 car and a $25,000 car?
By Sam Foley of MSN Autos
Value is, of course, a relative measure. When you feed a family of four for
$5 with a box of spaghetti and jar of tomato sauce, you got a good value, as
a practical matter. On the opposite end of the spectrum, when you feed a
family of four for $250 at an exclusive restaurant with excellent service
and a chef who elevates coo... 阅读全帖 |
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i*****d
发帖数: 603 | 33 Hyundai Sonata Ranked Most Dependable Midsize Car By J.D. Power and
Associate
COSTA MESA, Calif., Feb. 13, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Hyundai's Sonata received
the distinct honor of most dependable midsize car by J.D. Power and
Associates in their 2013 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS). Released today,
the annual Vehicle Dependability Study shows Sonata ranked highest in its
class, beating out leading competitors.
(Logo: http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnh/20091001/HYUNDAILOGO)
The Sonata offers strikin... 阅读全帖 |
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i*****d
发帖数: 603 | 34 Hyundai Sonata Ranked Most Dependable Midsize Car By J.D. Power and
Associate
COSTA MESA, Calif., Feb. 13, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Hyundai's Sonata received
the distinct honor of most dependable midsize car by J.D. Power and
Associates in their 2013 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS). Released today,
the annual Vehicle Dependability Study shows Sonata ranked highest in its
class, beating out leading competitors.
(Logo: http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnh/20091001/HYUNDAILOGO)
The Sonata offers strikin... 阅读全帖 |
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j***y
发帖数: 5098 | 35 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Hyundai (5K27分的老菜鸟) 于 (Thu Jul 14 16:41:30 2011, 美东) 提到:
小小的调查一下为自己找个借口呵呵。 自从去年有了娃，事情越来越多，尤其老人来
了，白天上班，晚上和周末更不能不带娃自己跑步。现在一周30M就都是半夜三更跑的
，很不容易了，牛人们怎么跑50的
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
serendip (serendipity) 于 (Thu Jul 14 16:42:12 2011, 美东) 提到:
跑步上下班
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zhxfifa (硕猫) 于 (Thu Jul 14 16:42:47 2011, 美东) 提到:
据我观察，越是娃多的，越牛
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Mutu (Camoranesi) 于 (Thu Jul 14 16:44... 阅读全帖 |
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f******t
发帖数: 7283 | 36 贴一个全欧洲2011年车型销量排行榜。
结果还可以了，比如说Yaris卖得比BMW 1系、Mini等还要多；Nissan有几款车型也排得
很前。
欧洲车占很多位置那是因为欧盟国家对成员国的产品关税政策跟非成员国不一样的，价
格上有优势。销量排头的是欧洲车，倒数的也是一大堆欧洲车。当然Fiesta等这些车型
是例外。但问题是很多德车粉也是瞧不起Fiesta的。所以这个话题根本不是什么技术话
题，而是德车粉抱怨自己不是生作德国人、无法拿德国护照，但仍然以德国人自豪的抒
情好机会。
Europe Full Year 2011:
Pos Model 2011 /10 2010 Pos
1 VW Golf 493,855 -2% 502,307 1
2 Ford Fiesta 372,977 -12% 425,595 2
3 VW Polo 371,454 2% 364,439 3
4 Opel Corsa 327,717... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******n
发帖数: 10009 | 37 哈哈,找找大众跌了多少,凹地又涨多少.
Rank Vehicle September
2014
YTD September
2013
YTD %
Change September
2014 September
2013 % Change
#1 Ford F-Series 557,037 559,506 -0.4% 59,863 60,456 -1.0%
#2 Chevrolet Silverado 382,153 360,775 5.9% 50,176 32,506 54.4%
#3 Toyota Camry 334,978 318,990 5.0% 28,507 31,871 -10.6%
#4 Ram P/U 319,868 262,787 21.7% 36,612 28,145 30.1%
#5 Honda Accord 304,382 282,102 7.9% 32,956 25,176 30.9%
#6 Toyota Corolla/Matrix 258,805 233,547 10.8% 20,530 23,251 -11.7... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 38 Gov't fines Hyundai $17.35M over brake defect
August 7, 2014 - 6:05 PM
By JOAN LOWY, Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — Hyundai has agreed to pay a $17.35 million fine for
delayed reporting of a brake defect affecting Genesis luxury cars, the
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Thursday.
The defect involves corrosion in critical brake system components that can
reduce braking effectiveness and increase the risk of a crash, NHTSA said.
Hyundai was aware in 2012 that brake fluids u... 阅读全帖 |
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L*A
发帖数: 756 | 39 第一名的狗不理包子是本版车黑们嘲讽攻击的首要目标。
Full Year 2011 Worldwide Top 105 Ranking:
1 Toyota Corolla 1,141,709
2 Ford Focus 882,551
3 VW Golf 864,452
4 VW Polo 788,789
5 Ford Fiesta 767,465
6 Hyundai Elantra 751,967
7 Wuling Sunshine 731,689
8 Chevrolet Cruze 704,691
9 Ford F-Series 698,319
10 VW Jetta 695,159
11 VW Passat 628,097
12 Toyota Camry 621,679
13 Saipa Pride 618,265
14 Opel Corsa 591,505
15 Nissan Tiida/Versa 568,319
16 Toyota Yaris/Vios 556,092
17 Honda Civic 555,071
18 Suzuki Alto 549,931
19 Hyunda... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 40 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: 现代因为缓报Genesis刹车缺陷被罚款170万美元
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 7 20:17:48 2014, 美东)
Gov't fines Hyundai $17.35M over brake defect
August 7, 2014 - 6:05 PM
By JOAN LOWY, Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — Hyundai has agreed to pay a $17.35 million fine for
delayed reporting of a brake defect affecting Genesis luxury cars, the
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Thursday.
The defect involves corrosion in critical brake system compon... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****3
发帖数: 13701 | 41 2013 HYUNDAI ACCENT GLS/GS
VIN: KMHCT5AE4DU073118
HATCHBACK 4 DR
1.6L I4 FI DOHC 16V
FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
CARFAX Report Provided By:
Manassas Public Auto Auction, Inc.
8846 Mathis Ave
Manassas, VA 20110
703-367-9110
Visit Dealer Website
Accident/damage reported
Accident / Damage reported
CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle
CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle
Regular Oil Changes
Regular oil changes
Registered as a personal vehicle
Personal vehicle
Vehicle registration information
Last owned in District of Colu... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********8
发帖数: 137 | 42 Data gathered January 2016 from Internet searches. Most of these numbers are
for 2016 model year, but when that data wasn't available the most recent
year was used. The low to high range is based upon the fact that different
options and trim levels create different weights.
Vehicle Curb Weight Low (lbs) Curb Weight High (lbs)
Hyundai Eon 1,680 1,740
Mitsubishi Mirage 1,973 2,051
Smart Fortwo 1,984 1,984
Scion iQ 2,127 2,127
Chevrolet Spark 2,246 2,312
Mazda 2 ... 阅读全帖 |
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e*******e
发帖数: 9616 | 43 http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2017/07/june-2017-ytd-us-vehicle-sales-rankings.html
Rank Vehicle June2017 June2016 %Change YTD2017 YTD2016 % Change
57 Nissan Versa 8,155 14,683 1.20% 740,545 733,136 1.00%
1 Ford F-Series 77,895 70,937 9.80% 429,860 395,224 8.
80%
2 Chevrolet Silverado 50,515 49,662 1.70% 262,940 273,652
-3.90%
3 Ram P/U 43,073 41,089 5.00% 250,443 233,220 7.00%
11 Honda CR-V 28,342 ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 44 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: 现代因为缓报Genesis刹车缺陷被罚款170万美元
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 7 20:17:48 2014, 美东)
Gov't fines Hyundai $17.35M over brake defect
August 7, 2014 - 6:05 PM
By JOAN LOWY, Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — Hyundai has agreed to pay a $17.35 million fine for
delayed reporting of a brake defect affecting Genesis luxury cars, the
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Thursday.
The defect involves corrosion in critical brake system compon... 阅读全帖 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 45 (1) Nick Bunkley, Hyundai Lifts Alabama; Jobs bring prosperity despite
recession's effects. New York Times, Feb 19, 2011 (title in the print).
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/19/business
/19hyundai.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=hyundai&st=cse
Quote:
"In 2010, Hyundai and Kia each posted their highest sales in the United
States and, taken together, surged ahead of Ford Motor to become fourth-
largest automaker worldwide.
"“If folks looked deeply at how far we’ve gone so quickly, from having no
U.S. productio... 阅读全帖 |
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l*******r
发帖数: 388 | 46 Bodily Injury Liability(BI)
2010 HYUNDAI SONATA GLS $50,000/$100,000 $109.20
Property Damage Liability(PD)
2010 HYUNDAI SONATA GLS $25,000 $74.00
Medical Payments(MED)
2010 HYUNDAI SONATA GLS Not Included N/A
Uninsured Motorist Bodily Injury
2010 HYUNDAI SONATA GLS $50,000/$100,000 $53.20
Uninsured Motorist Property Damage
2010 HYUNDAI SONATA GLS $25,000 $14.70
Comprehensive(COMP)
2010 HYUNDAI SONATA GLS ... 阅读全帖 |
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f****a
发帖数: 4708 | 47 数据来自motortrend的figure eight测试。
http://wot.motortrend.com/best-handling-cars-weve-tested-motor-
The Motor Trend Figure Eight -- our signature testing procedure -- provides
for a unique handling analysis. Run on the outside of two 200-ft diameter
circles, the test essentially makes for a portable road course. It throws
test subjects into handling extremes; in a given run, a car travels from
full-throttle acceleration to full braking and then must transition into a
constant-radius turn.
先给个标杆，2008 ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 48 Hyundai, Ssangyong Face Fines for Overstating Fuel Efficiency
Transport Ministry Says the Auto Makers Exaggerated Fuel Economy by as Much
as 8%
By In-Soo Nam
June 26, 2014 8:07 a.m. ET
SEOUL—South Korea's transport ministry said on Thursday it would fine
Hyundai Motor Co. 005380.SE +0.44% and Ssangyong Motor Co. 003620.SE
+0.47% for overstating the fuel economy of their sport-utility vehicles.
The decision by the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport, however,
comes as anoth... 阅读全帖 |
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a*******n
发帖数: 28 | 49 原来买的旧车,因为自己什么都不懂,没有选好.
请教各位如何选择一辆1.5万元以下的新车.
truecar 上一些清单,想买个4个门自动档的.
Hyundai 的车子质量怎么样,谢谢各位指点.
2011 Hyundai Accent
3dr HB Man GL
5 styles are in your price range
19%
$2,080
$10,735
Your Price
$8,655
2011 Nissan Versa
4dr Sedan I4 Manual 1.6 Base
5 styles are in your price range
10%
$1,033
$10,750
Your Price
$9,717
2011 Chevrolet Aveo
4dr Sedan LS
3 styles are in your price range
20%
$2,542
$12,725
Your Price
$10,183
2011 Chevrolet Aveo
5dr HB LS
3 styles are in your price range
20%
$2,545
$12,8... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9459 | 50 【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: 现代汽车因为谎报油耗数字面临政府罚款
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jun 26 19:25:07 2014, 美东)
Hyundai, Ssangyong Face Fines for Overstating Fuel Efficiency
Transport Ministry Says the Auto Makers Exaggerated Fuel Economy by as Much
as 8%
By In-Soo Nam
June 26, 2014 8:07 a.m. ET
SEOUL—South Korea's transport ministry said on Thursday it would fine
Hyundai Motor Co. 005380.SE +0.44% and Ssangyong Motor Co. 003620.SE
+0.47% for overstating the fuel econom... 阅读全帖 |
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