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l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - 就这数据来点理性讨论吧
Iraq: The War That Broke Us -- Not
By Randall Hoven
The Iraq War ends this month. The last combat brigade left August 19.
Operation Iraqi Freedom, which began in 2003, will end August 31. September
1 marks the beginning of Operation New Dawn. Now that it's over, what did
the Iraq War cost?
Here are examples of what some people had been saying about Iraq War costs.
"It was under Mr Bush that the deficit spiralled out of control as we
fought an unnecessary and endless $3,000bn war in Iraq..."
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l****z
发帖数: 29846
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来自主题: USANews版 - 再单独贴一个给大家看看
Iraq: The War That Broke Us -- Not
By Randall Hoven
The Iraq War ends this month. The last combat brigade left August 19.
Operation Iraqi Freedom, which began in 2003, will end August 31. September
1 marks the beginning of Operation New Dawn. Now that it's over, what did
the Iraq War cost?
Here are examples of what some people had been saying about Iraq War costs.
"It was under Mr Bush that the deficit spiralled out of control as we
fought an unnecessary and endless $3,000bn war in Iraq..."
... 阅读全帖
p****n
发帖数: 9263
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来自主题: Pharmacy版 - Walgreens名声真臭啊
不把药剂师党人看
Michigan Walgreens pharmacist Jeremy Hoven fired after he shot at armed
robbers
Read more: http://www.gadailynews.com/national/67812-michigan-walgreens-
pharmacist-jeremy-hoven-fired-after-he-shot-at-armed-
robbers.html#ixzz1Ntm7oOj3
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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来自主题: USANews版 - 美国国防开支占GDP的比例
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/02/graph_of_the_day_for_february_24.html
Randall Hoven
"And yet Congress has been corrupted by the military-industrial complex into
believing that by voting for more defense spending, they are supplying "
jobs" for the economy. In fact, they are only diverting scarce resources
from the desperately needed rebuilding of the American infrastructure and
other crucial spending necessities into utterly wasteful munitions. If we
cannot cut back our long-standing
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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来自主题: USANews版 - The Crazily Increasing Wealth of the 1%
"This week, a new economic report confirmed what most Americans already
believe to be true: over the past three decades, the middle class has lost
ground while the wealthiest few have become even wealthier. In fact, the
average income for the top one percent of Americans has risen almost seven
times faster than the income of the average middle class family. "
-President Obama, October 29, 2011.
Ummmmmm...
THE TOP 1% WEALTH SHARE IN THE UNITED STATES, 1916-2000
Sometimes lies make for a better st... 阅读全帖
l****z
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"Top wealth shares were very high at the beginning of the period [1916-2000]
but have been hit sharply by the Great Depression, the New Deal, and World
War II shocks. Those shocks have had permanent effects. Following a decline
in the 1970s, top wealth shares recovered in the early 1980s, but they are
still much lower in 2000 than in the early decades of the century." NBER
study: Top Wealth Shares in the United States, 1916-2000: Evidence from
Estate Tax Returns, by Wojciech Kopczuk and Emmanuel... 阅读全帖
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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来自主题: USANews版 - 就这数据来点理性讨论吧
哈哈, 搞了半天都是布什政府花钱花多了. 疤蟆政府呢? 你绝口不提了?
我贴过一个关于富人,中产和低收入的图,富人在经济好的时候财富增长速度比中产和低
收入的快,这个是不错.但现在经济不好的时候,实际上富人财富减少的速度要比低收入
和中产的快很多. 所以你说的富人didn't pay fair share完全错误.
"Top wealth shares were very high at the beginning of the period [1916-2000]
but have been hit sharply by the Great Depression, the New Deal, and World
War II shocks. Those shocks have had permanent effects. Following a decline
in the 1970s, top wealth shares recovered in the early 1980s, but they are
still much lower in 2000 than in the e... 阅读全帖
t*****o
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来自主题: USANews版 - 再单独贴一个给大家看看
你转的内容的出处,http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/iraq_the_war_that_broke_us_not.html,里面列了其他三篇文章,他们的估算都是在3T左右,我建议你也看看,你不要看到其中一篇作者是Stiglitz,你就视而不见。
1. 你转的Hoven的这篇文章里提到,03-10年伊拉克战争CBO计算的直接成本是$709B,
09-19的stimulus的成本是$814B,所以你不管怎么算,stimulus占deficit的百分比肯
定比伊拉克战争要低。我也可以给你做一个图标出来,说明stimulus占总的deficit比
例很低。
2. 你说的没错,数据是CBO的,那你看了他们的报告了?那个仅仅考虑的是国会通过国
防部的拨款,你还要考虑其他成本,比如VA花在的钱,state department花在驻伊拉克
大使馆的钱,还有利息。另外伊拉克战争还远没有结束,用庞大的大使馆和外包制造的
假象。你如果说一定相信CBO的数据,你看看这个报道http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/10/24/us-i... 阅读全帖
l****z
发帖数: 29846
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来自主题: USANews版 - 再单独贴一个给大家看看
呵呵, 你讲的还可以讨论.
第一点,你说stimulus占deficit的百分比肯定比伊拉克战争要低.
没有人在跟你argue到底是war expense高还是stimulus expense高.
那个图就是反驳那些人说deficit都是这个war造成的.
第二点, 我前面已经说过了,你当然要看直接成本.因为那个是最直接的. 即使要看其他
的费用,也要看incremental的费用.这个可以理解嘛? 就是有些费用即使没有war也会发
生的,所以要扣除. 我不知道你或者其他人在计算的时候有没有考虑到这个.
第三, 利息问题, 同样的stimulus也有这个问题阿. 你要硬凹的话, 我还可以说有
option的成本呢. 网上有一个article专门讲top 20 ridiculous items stimulus
spent on. 别告诉我花钱在这种事情上比Iraq war还有用.
其实Iraq war在布什离任的时候已经变动很成功.就是疤蟆这个沙比说马上撤. 结果打
了几年,美国一无所获. 而本来美国可以在那里获取很大利益的.
不管从长期还是短期来说,Iraq war要比这个stim... 阅读全帖
c******i
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Medicare Paid A Tiny Group Of Doctors A Whopping $1.5 Billion
Associated Press RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, ASSOCIATED PRESS
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Medicare paid a tiny group of doctors $3 million or more
apiece in 2012. One got nearly $21 million.
Those are among the findings of an Associated Press analysis of physician
data released Wednesday by the Obama administration, part of a move to open
the books on health car... 阅读全帖
r****d
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DULUTH往北,61就是你的家,如果你lost.
Kitchi Gammi Park往北有条平行于61的沿湖公路,是老61,在Paul Van Hoven Park(
Two Harbors)与61汇合.速度略慢,有时间可以走.
N****f
发帖数: 25759
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来自主题: MiddleSchool版 - 包子
俺这个绝对真实:
话说五百年前俺老在New Haven某餐馆端盘子谋生时,老板兼大
厨许先生每天打烊之后第一件事是把餐厅里的cheesy music换成
古典音乐。这一天俺们正忙着打扫战场、准备吃饭,一起打工的
本科小mm顺手拿起受款台上一盘CD,对着封面上许先生龙飞凤
舞手写的“Beethoven”端详半晌,大惑不解地问道:"What is 'beef
hoven'?"
许先生正在准备晚餐,头也不抬,随声应道:“牛肉河粉。”
c******g
发帖数: 19294
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来自主题: MiddleSchool版 - 包子
what does hoven mean?
G*********o
发帖数: 49669
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来自主题: MiddleSchool版 - 包子
职业病狼兄

俺这个绝对真实:
话说五百年前俺老在New Haven某餐馆端盘子谋生时,老板兼大
厨许先生每天打烊之后第一件事是把餐厅里的cheesy music换成
古典音乐。这一天俺们正忙着打扫战场、准备吃饭,一起打工的
本科小mm顺手拿起受款台上一盘CD,对着封面上许先生龙飞凤
舞手写的“Beethoven”端详半晌,大惑不解地问道:"What is 'beef
hoven'?"
许先生正在准备晚餐,头也不抬,随声应道:“牛肉河粉。”
G*********o
发帖数: 49669
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来自主题: MiddleSchool版 - 包子
河粉吧

what does hoven mean?
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