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G*M
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - The Humiliation of Christ
Bible Course - Christian Doctrine
Lesson 6
The Humiliation of Christ
Lord's Day 14 - 16
The humiliation of Christ
After discussing the names of the Mediator, the instructor now deals with
the states. "States" refer to the relationship with God. Lord's Days 14, 15
and 16 deal with the state of humiliation, which is divided into degrees. "
Degrees" view the ever-deepening process of Christ's suffering. Over against
this progressive humiliation, there is also a progressive exaltation.
Lord's Day 14... 阅读全帖
E*****m
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http://www.control-z.com/czp/pgs/why_no_longer.html#reason02
The words used to define Christian Doctrine are representative of things
whose existence cannot be 'proved' outside of language
Instead of saying God, Heaven, and Hell, you could just as easily say Glavin
, Homatron, and Jyklumoo. Like God, Heaven, and Hell, the only way you can
know anything about Glavin, Homatron, and Jyklumoo is through word
association. But this isn't exactly true either. In all actuality, you don't
know anything a... 阅读全帖
b********n
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1 The Lake of Fire
(Revelation 19:20, 20:10, 14, 15)
Hell is described in only a few spots throughout the Bible as a place of
fire, and all these descriptions are in the New Testament except for
allegorical stories like Shadrach, Meshech, and Abednego in the fiery
furnace. In God’s Revelation to John, the final end of the world is
depicted as a war between good and evil. The good are not Christians.
Christians are raptured to Heaven before the Great Tribulation begins,
sparing them the horrors t... 阅读全帖
b********x
发帖数: 206
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - What Dreams May Come (film)
While vacationing in Switzerland, physician Chris Nielsen (Robin Williams)
meets artist Annie Collins (Annabella Sciorra). They are instantly attracted
to each other, and bond as if they had known each other for a long time.
They marry and have two children: Ian (Josh Paddock) and Marie (Jessica
Brooks Grant). Their idyllic life comes to an end when the children die in a
car crash. Life becomes very difficult: Annie suffers a mental breakdown,
and the strains on their marriage threaten to lead t... 阅读全帖
s**i
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好人才琢磨监狱有没有不人道的虐待。自我欺骗的人才转过头视而不见。有良知的人暴
露了虐囚water boarding种种不人道的mistreatment。是出于compassion 和 empathy
来关注是否存在不能 justified suffering, even in the name of righteous
punishment. What
's wrong with that?
地狱是基督教核心教义之一,你怎么能不琢磨一下呢?因为让你不舒服么?
prevalent 传统教义的地狱就是 eternal torment,随便摘抄一段儿关于永狱永火的:
http://carm.org/hell-eternal
Unquenchable Fire
Some believe that the fires of hell are symbolic and/or temporal. But the
following verses show that they are not.
Matt. 3:12 says, "And His winnowing fork is in His h... 阅读全帖
T*****n
发帖数: 2456
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 伯多祿的磐石地位
第二篇 Origins of Peter as Pope
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/origins-of-peter-as-pope
据说你们新教也尊重教会传统——至少到公元5世纪的教会传统,对吧?否则就真变摩
门教了,人家摩门教的教会传统只尊重到第二代宗徒。你也别自己读圣经了,看看教父
们怎么说伯多禄吧——特别看看基要派推崇备至的Augustine怎么说吧
The New Testament contains five different metaphors for the foundation of
the Church (Matt. 16:18, 1 Cor. 3:11, Eph. 2:20, 1 Pet. 2:5–6, Rev. 21:14).
One metaphor that has been disputed is Jesus Christ’s calling the apostle
Peter "rock": "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and
th... 阅读全帖
c**t
发帖数: 26
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for example, the structure in the jar file is
edu.cc.ffm. The name of the jar file is bc.jar
suppose my java file is hell.java
at the beginning of hell.java, I add
package edu.cc.ffm;
then use javac -classpath bc.jar hell.java to get hell.class
next I extract bc.jar and move hell.class to edu\cc\ffm
finally use jar cf bc.jar *.* to create a new bc.jar
My question is, when I use import edu.cc.ffm.hell;
it generates error saying import arguments are not correct.
can any expert tell me what's wrong
c**t
发帖数: 26
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来自主题: Java版 - weird class definition
in hell.java class, I define it
import ....;
public class hell
{
private float var1=1;

public hell()
{
...;
}
...
public static void main()
{
hell a = new hell();
....
}
}
when I compile it, no problem. but when run java hell.class
it tells me Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError
Anything wrong?
j******8
发帖数: 1006
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 你会考虑让孩子去church吗
Your kid is not necessary to think what you thing is right when they are
older.They are not also necessary to think you are wrong when they are older.
I personally think your problem is that you regard the priests to be
teaching something wrong. That's your value and you are trying to impress
them with your value.
--Yes, you are right about that when you say when they older. But when they
are at a younger age I will let my kids know what is right or wrong based on
my opinion/ value since they ar... 阅读全帖
O*****e
发帖数: 359
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【 以下文字转载自 Outdoors 讨论区 】
发信人: OldNike (Old Nike), 信区: Outdoors
标 题: Texas Possum Kindom Lake 游记
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 1 21:40:31 2013, 美东)
(1)
这次旅行是在9月初,我先到德州grand prairie的Traders Village观看那里举办的一
个北美土著人pow wow,大约30多miles。所谓pow wow大概是土著人唱歌跳舞庆祝的一
种活动,每年有各地的土著人偕老扶幼前来德州展现自己的传统。演出现场附近还有土
著人的手工艺销售。
Traders Village是一个杂货市场,仿佛置身墨西哥一样,里面的摊点销售各种东西,
衣帽鞋袜锅碗瓢盆家具音响香水饰品,马鞍轮胎。
然后我又开了90miles,途径德州小城Weatherford,绕过Mineral Wells,到达Possum
kindom lake。这个湖
面积有80平方公里,大约是杭州西湖的12倍。它地处德州 Palo Pinto山区,形状非常
有趣,像奇怪的动物。有一段小... 阅读全帖
O*****e
发帖数: 359
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来自主题: Outdoors版 - Texas Possum Kindom Lake 游记
(1)
这次旅行是在9月初,我先到德州grand prairie的Traders Village观看那里举办的一
个北美土著人pow wow,大约30多miles。所谓pow wow大概是土著人唱歌跳舞庆祝的一
种活动,每年有各地的土著人偕老扶幼前来德州展现自己的传统。演出现场附近还有土
著人的手工艺销售。
Traders Village是一个杂货市场,仿佛置身墨西哥一样,里面的摊点销售各种东西,
衣帽鞋袜锅碗瓢盆家具音响香水饰品,马鞍轮胎。
然后我又开了90miles,途径德州小城Weatherford,绕过Mineral Wells,到达Possum
kindom lake。这个湖
面积有80平方公里,大约是杭州西湖的12倍。它地处德州 Palo Pinto山区,形状非常
有趣,像奇怪的动物。有一段小路让我想起杭州的虎跑路,就是那种持续上坡下坡的路
。湖里还有一个特别的景观,名曰地狱之门,Hell's Gate。我去那里主要是想看看这个
。它是由矗立在湖里的两块巨大岩石构成。关于这个湖和地狱之门,有很多故事。
其主要水源是Brazos River,这条河水位足够的时候可以进行滑独木... 阅读全帖
G****e
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - The Darker Side Of God
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagating this view. Fueled by such
blatant omission, this lengthy chapter will fill the void by offering a look
at the volume of horrendous acts perfo... 阅读全帖
m****a
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来自主题: Belief版 - 什么是地狱(转载)
http://www.truthortradition.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=455
FAQ: I live in the USA, and it seems that our language is riddled with
references to “hell.” I constantly hear that extremely versatile word used
in conversations of all kinds. People say: “What the hell?” or “The hell
with it,” or “Hell, yes / no,” etc. On occasion, some people, though not
travel agents, have encouraged me to “go to hell.” I don’t think I want
to, because I’ve heard that the Devil lives there, but if I d
m****a
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来自主题: Belief版 - 关于地狱和赎价
http://lds.org/study/topics/hell?lang=eng&query=hell
Latter-day revelations speak of hell in at least two ways. First, it is
another name for spirit prison, a temporary place in the postmortal world
for those who died without a knowledge of the truth or those who were
disobedient in mortality. Second, it is the permanent location of Satan and
his followers and the sons of perdition, who are not redeemed by the
Atonement of Jesus Christ.
Additional Information
Spirit prison is a temporary state i... 阅读全帖
T*****n
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来自主题: Belief版 - 第五节 宗教大法官
THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV
By Fyodor Mikailovich Dostoevsky
Translated by Constance Garnett
Chapter 5
The Grand Inquisitor
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/pol116/grand.htm
"EVEN this must have a preface- that is, a literary preface," laughed Ivan,
"and I am a poor hand at making one. You see, my action takes place in the
sixteenth century, and at that time, as you probably learnt at school, it
was customary in poetry to bring down heavenly powers on earth. Not to speak
of Dante, in France, cle... 阅读全帖
G****e
发帖数: 11198
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来自主题: Belief版 - The Darker Side Of God (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: GoBlue (Wolverines), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: The Darker Side Of God
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 12 13:10:33 2014, 美东)
The Darker Side Of God
If you ask Christians to describe their quasi-chosen god of worship,
you’ll often hear such descriptors as “wonderful” and “loving.” This
choice of selective designation seems commonplace within the Christian
community. In fact, most churches ignore the Old Testament all together so
that the members feel comfortable propagatin... 阅读全帖
c**i
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来自主题: Literature版 - Oxford English Dictionary (OED)
I just added the follwoing to the original.
(e) It appears that the online OED (www.oed.com) does not accept more than
one word in the search box, thus precluding a phrase. For example, to look
for "all hell breaks lose," I must enter hell as a noun, and proceed to
locate the phrase "(all) hell breaks (also (is) let) loose." It is
worthwhile, though, because the earliest other web sites can trace the
phrase back was to English John Milton's Paradise Lost (originally published
in 1667).
In compar... 阅读全帖
l*****a
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Q1. How would you define “atheism”?
Satanism, devil-worship, false, Godless, infidels, idiotic, Hell-bound,
unethical, evil…there are many words I could
use. Atheists are evil wicked people with no morals who deserve Hell more
than any murderer or rapist!
Q2. Was your upbringing religious? If so, what tradition?
Naturally. I was born a Baptist Christian and still follow our Lord Jesus
Christ today. As a child I attended church
every Sunday, and as I grew older I was born again and began to parti... 阅读全帖
w*****e
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基版新基的典型週期
Hell is the hardest part to understand in Christianity. Trying to understand
hell without the love is only harming yourself.
My personal experience, I do not even need to know what hell is after my
death, I am suffering from living hell if I am away from God. That for me is
personal proof of existence of hell.
w*****e
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 凡预定得永生的人都信了
If you are saying there are people who want eternal life and God said they
can not get eternal life, then you are trying to condemn others, if you are
condemning them, you are against what Jesus said, or anti-Christ.
The truth is, God only provides what you want, people who wants to be with
God will be with God. People who does not want God, who wants to be away
with God, they will be granted the eternal life of being away from God. To
them, not being with God will be much better than being with... 阅读全帖
Y**u
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☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
TrueStory (不是幸福的坑不挖) 于 (Wed Nov 23 14:09:26 2011, 美东) 提到:
Carl Jung published a lot after this NDE, and this was one of his two major "creative" illnesses he experienced (suffered or blessed). The other one was the deep depression he experienced after his break-up with Freud (several of Freud's former disci
committed suicide after such break-ups.)
Update: I found a link with the same content, but perhaps it's easier to read than the pure text below:
h... 阅读全帖
D******e
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Age is not deal breaker.
English is.
I assume your friend does not speak English well. He needs to add three to
five years to his plan.
After 3 yrs of hell in high school to get into a top med school. 10 yrs of
hell in medical school. 3 yrs of hell to intern. Are you crazy to spend
another 6 yrs in hell? But on a second thought, you have been in hell all
you life. You dont know what a normal life is. It might trigger psychosis
if all of a sudden you live on a normal life. You are on the
w********2
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McKinley Conway, 1920-2011:
Last Flight Home in a Landmark Life
ONLINE INSIDER
McKinley Conway
by JACK LYNE
T
his Mac Conway fellow, you might be wondering, now just who was he again?
Yeah, he's the guy who started Site Selection 'n all, but did he ever do
anything else? I'm kinda in a hurry here, pal. So just tell me who this dude
was like.
Oh, hell, Mac Conway wasn't like anybody. He never followed anyone's
footsteps; he couldn't really. He was too restless a spirit, too hell-bent
on slashing ... 阅读全帖
k*******3
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You may say, the world is not spit on me, I have to go to heaven. Do you
think you are the Lord Buddha to escape to paradise? Seize his hair flying
dream, obscenity. Spirits this is nonsense, since you preach the spirits,
the author with you kan Kan, legend of heaven hell are of punishing evil and
promoting good and evil multiterminal will suffer the "scourge" to hell,
rural people often called the "damn" "thunder played" the said. You swindled
cheating the color, to say nothing, according to in... 阅读全帖
k*******3
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You may say, the world is not spit on me, I have to go to heaven. Do you
think you are the Lord Buddha to escape to paradise? Seize his hair flying
dream, obscenity. Spirits this is nonsense, since you preach the spirits,
the author with you kan Kan, legend of heaven hell are of punishing evil and
promoting good and evil multiterminal will suffer the "scourge" to hell,
rural people often called the "damn" "thunder played" the said. You swindled
cheating the color, to say nothing, according to in... 阅读全帖
k*******5
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Electrical and Computer Engineering departemtn at The University of Alabama,
a pretty terrible department. If someone wanna be a slave and die there,
please go ahead; otherwise, keep far away!

I know that someone is still willing to come to this hell even he or she
sees this warning. Do not play joke with your life and career. You may think
it is an opportunity withy to try or a spring-board to other schools later,
do not be naive and stupid, when you arrive to this hell, your fate will be
dom... 阅读全帖
m****s
发帖数: 675
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看看新闻后面的评论就知道了,美国如今像火药桶一样,一触即发。
大家记得arizona的枪杀参议原的恶性事件吧?刚刚发生不久。现在的社会矛盾已经是
一触即发了,
George Allen • 2 days ago −
Overhaul HELL send them all Home.
Jeff • 2 days ago
What a crock. IT IS TIME FOR THE LEGAL CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY TO TAKE
BACK THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHO IS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
SOVEREIGNTY OF THIS COUNTRY. I personally believe it is the LEGAL
CITIZENS Who should decide whether 15+ million LAWBREAKING ILLEGAL
ALIENS become legal. AND THESE #$%$ POLITICIANS NEED TO... 阅读全帖
G***G
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来自主题: Fishing版 - 我在天堂
When I am in the heaven,
I ask myself
Can I fish in the hell?
'yes, you can.'
Must I be in the hell someday?
'you bet'
When I am in the hell,
I ask myself
Can I cry in the heaven?
'yes, you can.'
Shall I never back to the heaven?
'you try'
I am now not in the heaven
nor in the hell
where am I?
I am now not my body
nor my mind
who am I?
I am myself
I am in my body.
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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比SCAR 17S重两磅, 还贵1000多。 慢走不送。
P.S: 附上一篇老段子
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suc
"An open letter to the gun community from HK’s marketing department: In a
world of compromises, some people put the bullets in the magazine backwards
…But it doesn’t matter, because our gun is on the cover of the Rainbow Six
video games. Look how cool that SEAL coming out of the water looks… If you
buy a $2,000 SOCOM, you will be that cool of an operator too. And chicks
will dig you.
At HK, ... 阅读全帖
t******w
发帖数: 77
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来自主题: NCAA版 - PSU riot!!!!!!!
Look at those comments.
because we all know that sports is SO MUCH more important than the victims
of this crime *sarcastic* .... GROW UP! ya'll are rioting over a
enabler to rape!!
texangel85 4 minutes ago
JoePa enabled a child molster. Plain and simple. He got (partly)
what he deserved. You Penn St people supporting him make me sick. All
because he is a damn football coach??? I guess you dont care if somebody is
a monster, as long as they are your monster.
s78814j 7 minutes ago... 阅读全帖
wh
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - 2017奥斯卡提名+竞猜
Summary:
- 89th Oscar Award nominations announced in Los Angeles Tuesday morning;
- Musical La La Land receives 14 nominations - equalling Oscar records of
All About Eve and Titanic. It is now the most nominated musical, beating
Mary Poppins which received 13 nods;
- Meryl Streep becomes most nominated performer in Oscar history with 20
nods;
- There are non-white actors in each of this year's acting categories -
Mahershala Ali (best supporting actor for Moonlight), Dev Patel (best
supporting ac... 阅读全帖
l*y
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来自主题: Rock版 - bernard sumner interview 1994
www.jonsavage.com/film
Bernard Sumner
[interview, April 1994]
Bernard onstage
Bernard Albrecht Sumner
I first met Ian at a gig at the Electric Circus. It might have been the
Anarchy tour, it might have been The Clash, or one of them punk groups. Ian
was with another lad called Ian, and they both had donkey jackets, and Ian
had “HATE” written on the back of his donkey jacket. I remember liking him
. He seemed pretty nice, but we didn’t talk to him that much. I just
remembered him. Later on, about... 阅读全帖
l*****e
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哈哈
昨天,我跟臭小子说,钢琴课改到星期四下午了,他说
-What the hell!
-I don't want you to say that again. It's not appropriate for 5 year old.
-Why?
-Hell is not a good word.
-What does Hell mean?
-A bad place.
-What does "what the hell" mean?
-Feel surprised about a bad change. Changing schedule is not a bad change,
so...
-How about "what the heck"?
-How about "what on earth"?
......
我开车的时候碰到乱来的会骂人,基本上在road rage的边缘。有次,有人从岔路上飞
速cut in,没有yield,害我差点被撞,等到前面红灯,我停到他右边,开了车窗,骂
了他一顿。全被臭小子听去了 :((
k***y
发帖数: 217
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来自主题: EnglishChat版 - hehe. What's the difference between:
heaven:
1.`Is there a heaven and a hell?'
2.`What's that, for heaven's sake?'
3.I saw an infinite and never-ending wave: whether it was heaven or hell I
knew not.
4.If you fell from the top of the ropes in the sports hall this afternoon
would you go to heaven or hell?'
5.For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota,
not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished."
so in my understanding,heaven always goes with the hidden word"hell",while
parad
i****s
发帖数: 729
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来自主题: LES版 - 重回地狱
两周以前你的帖子:
【发信人: xlq (夜太黑), 信区: LES
标 题: Re: 重见ex
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 13 22:24:55 2010, 美东)
我没有踩着旧船。旧船上面本来就有人。我也没打算要上去。
只是突然旧船又划过的时候,我的心暗涌了一下。】
现在我怎么就看不懂了,
你lg和这个hell她,是一个人,还是2个人?
那个hell她还有个贫困女友?
那个你和你老公在被窝里睡觉(你最初的帖子),到你家敲门的,就是那个hell她?
你后来说甜蜜的是谁,hell她,贫困女友,or你lg??
聪明的人们,总是有让愚者发现到令人惊愕的相似之处,
那就是----------你们都总是很让人费解。
我不求你解惑,但口无遮拦,总是把事实说出。
只劝你冷暖自知,好自为之。
z********6
发帖数: 852
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来自主题: Love版 - 我和穆斯林女孩的事情
古兰经有164处关于对异教徒发动圣战(jihad)的描述
The Koran's 164 Jihad Verses
K 2:178-179
Set 1, Count 1+2 [2.178] O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for
you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for
the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to
any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit)
should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a
good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mer... 阅读全帖
c****t
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来自主题: SciFiction版 - 云图 英文版
LETTERS FROM ZEDELGHEM
CHATEAU ZEDELGHEM,
NEERBEKE,
WEST VLAANDEREN
29TH-VI-1993
Sixsmith,
Dreamt I stood in a china shop so crowded from floor to far-off ceiling with
shelves of
porcelain antiquities etc. that moving a muscle would cause several to fall
and smash to bits.
Exactly what happened, but instead of a crashing noise, an august chord rang
out, half-cello,
half-celeste, D major (?), held for four beats. My wrist knocked a Ming vase
affair off its
pedestal—E-flat, whole string section, g... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - The Deliverance of Man
Bible Course - Christian Doctrine
Lesson 3
The Deliverance of Man
Lord's Day 5-7
The Deliverance of Man
Lord's Days 5 through 31 form the second part of the catechism. It consists
of questions 12 through 85, dealing with the deliverance from sin and misery
. From this aspect the first question is: Is there no way…?
Lord's Day 5
Q. 12. Since then, by the righteous judgment of God, we deserve temporal and
eternal punishment, is there no way by which we may escape that punishment,
and be again rece... 阅读全帖
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By Tony Nungesser and Gary Amirault
The entire concept of eternal or everlasting punishment hinges primarily on
a single verse of Scripture--Matthew 25:46. This is the only place in the en
tire Bible where we find these two words together AND only in some Bibles. T
here are over a dozen English translations which do NOT contain the concept
of "eternal punishment" on ANY of their pages, NOR the pagan concept of Hell
.
The Greek form for "everlasting punishment" in Matthew 25:46 is "kolasin aio
ni... 阅读全帖
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thanks for share the "bad news" of Luke 16 with me :)
there is no evidence of eteral punishment though.
I googled this comments on Luke 16:19-31
"Now I must distinguish between the judgment that falls upon us immediately
after death and the Day of Judgment that we see in such places as Rev. 20:11
-15"
"In our story in Luke 16 the rich man died and went to Hades which is a temp
orary holding area of hell, where the condemned souls await the Final Judgme
nt and their bodies being resurrected and b... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - The Millennial Kingdom (1)
calvinism is a cult
God pedestined most of us to hell, you call it truth?
I know you feel OK if your kin go to hell because they don't accept your ver
sion of gospel
I really feel sick about ppl being so merciless. you guys only care about y
our own tickets to heaven.
I can stay in hell. But kongzi should be in heaven. That's why I am saying
calvinists go to hell
R*o
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - John 3 "For God So Loved the World"
Problem (1) God love us
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoev
er believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
This verse is cited most frequently. We can call John 3:16 the gospel in on
e sentence. This verse is the best declaration of "God is love". Yes, God
love us. God want to save us. What we need to do is just to believe in the
name of his only Son Jesus. Is that simple? Is that marvelous?
We also note the word "perish" here. There ... 阅读全帖
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http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/EternalPunishmentNotTrueToGre
By Tony Nungesser and Gary Amirault
The entire concept of eternal or everlasting punishment hinges primarily on
a single verse of Scripture--Matthew 25:46. This is the only place in the en
tire Bible where we find these two words together AND only in some Bibles. T
here are over a dozen English translations which do NOT contain the concept
of "eternal punishment" on ANY of their pages, NOR the pagan concept of Hell
.
The Greek form ... 阅读全帖
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they read bible. Yes, revelation says some people go to here.
people go to hell because God predestined them to hell?
calvinism is so foolish
people go to hell because they refuse to accept the gospel, not because God
doomed them to hell as Calvinism said.
R*o
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by Dave Hunt
Two Conflicting Views
Calvinism presents us with the mystery of why God Who is love and Who is inf
inite in mercy toward all lets billions go to hell whom He could rescue. The
Bible on the other hand, confronts us with quite another mystery: why anyon
e who is offered salvation as a free gift of God's grace chooses to reject i
t. We have no answer to that question. Pusey writes:
There is something wonderfully impressive in the respect shown by the Creato
r to the freedom of choice w... 阅读全帖
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人死后身体不存在了,人的灵还在。死去的小孩子的灵进入灵的世界里面叫做“乐园”
的,安息。生前听到福音了,也接受了耶稣为救主的,愿意称他为王,愿意悔改自己的
罪的成人,也到乐园安息。
灵监是灵的世界另外一个地方。是还没有接受耶稣为救主的灵待的地方。在灵监还有传
福音进行,接受的,都可以转到乐园安息,等待第一次复活。
参考:
http://www.lds.org/topics/hell?lang=eng&query=hell
Latter-day revelations speak of hell in at least two ways. First, it is
another name for spirit prison, a temporary place in the postmortal world
for those who died without a knowledge of the truth or those who were
disobedient in mortality. Second, it is the permanent location of Sata... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 永生
关于阴间的详述。 永生的问题我会另开一贴给你。
乐园不曾搬到天上
在驳正了「天堂乐园」这个误导的传统教训之后,愿意顺带提一提另一个次要的误解─
当基督复活时,「乐园从阴间搬到天上」14(参9)。它虽然在历史上曾有颇多争议,
但借着圣经真理的日渐恢复,尤其对「教会」是基督的身体(弗一23,罗十二5~6,林
前十一17,林前十二12~13)及神要建造基督的身体(弗四12)这方面的认识之后,已
大致被澄清。John Compbell先生参照了希腊文(弗四11,林前十二4~11)并引证
John Lange,W.R.Nicoll,W.J.Conybeare和J.S.Howson等人的观点,而作了如下的归
纳(参8):
在基督凯旋行列中「那些被掳的」仇敌,并非留在乐园中之旧约时代的死者。更正确地
说,是那些成为恩赐而赐给教会的「被掳者」,像保罗和其它的圣徒们。显然的,(当
时)保罗并非在乐园里的死者,其它新约时代的众使徒、申言者、传福音者、牧人和教
师也都不是。他们当时不曾在乐园里,因此也不曾被迁到天上。所以司可福的关于乐园
中的死者在基督升天时被带到天上的说法是缺乏证据的。
阴间与炼狱有别
阴... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 执着心, addiction, and Dopamine
This talk is about the chemical, Dopamine, that people feel in ecstasy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axrywDP9Ii0
It makes people want, without even knowing what is to be wanted. It is a major chemical that people show in infatuation or new relationships. The speaker also mentions its similar effect in some people's religious pursuit.
When this chemical fades, the rosy glasses fall, and then things become dull. However, this is exactly the time when true love comes in, to love the real persons ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Wisdom版 - 执着心, addiction, and Dopamine
你举的例子,sensation和horror scene都是real的,也许可以把horror这个词去掉。
sensation/feeling和scene都是真,它们可以代表佛法里说的名法和色法,这些法是在瞬间生灭
的。我们人的问题在于没有认识到瞬间生灭的事实,所以不明白苦,无我,和无常。
进一步讲,佛法的优势,或者佛法之所以最透彻,在于佛法不仅仅说了苦,无我和无常,
还告诉我们怎么可以灭苦,指出无明和贪爱在苦的产生中的重要性。佛法的八正道是可以
实现消灭贪嗔痴,真正实现解脱和自由的唯一的路。
四圣谛讲得是意识产生的最本质的规律,解决的是困扰我们意识和心灵的最本质的问题。

The sensation is real, the feeling is real, or even the perception is real,
but the thing that caused this feeling, namely, the horror scene in the
movie, is not real. The scene was fake. No one's really kille... 阅读全帖
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