m****n
发帖数: 815 | 1 你为什么要买graphite？好似graphite通常都是岁数很大的人才用。 |
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发帖数: 154 | 2 that's a good point. thx.
20 yards. and you might need to use x-stiff graphite to control your iron
shot, which defeats the purpose to use graphite at the first place.
your iron distance, your shot distance variation would be bigger as well,
you lost control on your iron shots.
better players), they tend to leave the hybrids out since they gain much
more control on irons, even hybrids do gain distance. |
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h*******e
发帖数: 1171 | 3 最近会在国内呆上半年,有个朋友可以免费带我去练习场玩,也可能会偶尔去上场地.我
自己想买套球杆带回国去.因为是新手,也不确定这个爱好能不能坚持,不想买太贵的.去
sportsauthority问,店员给我推荐了这套,老实说这个牌子我不认识,不知道好不好,在
这里问问大虾们,希望给些建议,谢谢!
还有飞机上托运的话,我量了一下,这个盒子3边总合比标准的要求多出5inch多点.有经
验的大虾给说说怎么带回去比较好.
http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4020956&cid=msnshopping
Features
*Set includes graphite driver, fairway woods (3, 5), hybrids (3, 4); steel
irons (5-PW), putter; fabric cart bag and headcovers
*460cc Ti matrix driver features advanced technology combined with added... 阅读全帖 |
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 5 graphit shaft for irons is pretty much a marketing gimmick. it is necessary
only for women and seniors with very little core strength. I'm sure your dad
is not in that league. look at Champions Tour (senior PGA), you won't see a
single 60-year-old use a graphite shafted iron. |
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发帖数: 10701 | 6 如果你没到60岁就放弃steel shaft，全面转向graphite， 你只是在告诉说：i am old
and weak...
graphite and steel , no difference, technically.
steel shaft just makes you way much sharp!!! |
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发帖数: 1424 | 7 要是新手 X-FORGE不合适， 太难打， 而且X FORGE加碳杆太奇怪， Adams 非常适合上
年纪的人， 不过在国内不够炫。 我倒是看很多老人用X20+graphite. 其实可以看看PING G15 graphite。 好打，牌子也比callaway 好多了 |
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发帖数: 913 | 8 1. 2mph out of 90mph (average 8i swing speed of amateurs) is not a big diff to begin with.
2. It is - If Everything Else (grip/clubhead) kept the the same, switching to lighter shaft will generate more clubhead speed.
I don't have a number to back it up, but to me the cavity-style r7 CGB Max irons have significantly larger clubhead, which translates to heavier, when comparing to muscleback-style AP2.
So the total weight of CGB might not be any lighter (if not heavier) than AP2.
3. People tend to... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6 | 9 Both deals are at same price of around $550.
1) Callaway X-22 7 pieces iron sets (4-PW) graphite
2) Callaway X-22 8 pieces combo iron sets (3-PW): 3 & 4 are hybrid graphite,
5-PW are steel. |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 10 Have you ever thought about Diablo Edge iron or iron/hybrid set? I am
currently using an X series and just helped one of my friends buy a set of
the Diablo Edge iron/hybrid (all graphite) at $599, I tried them and felt
great. The clubs are lighter, and very forgiving. I also hit the ball longer
with the clubs than the ones I use.
graphite, |
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D***m
发帖数: 129 | 11 Taylormade Burner 1.0 graphite. It seems all graphite clubs are longer than
steel shaft clubs. |
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发帖数: 276 | 12 I am susceptible to the trigger finger problem. I have to make certain
gripping adjustments. Here are the ways I used. In case anyone of you has
the same issue, I hope some of the information can be helpful.
(1) Use 10-finger gripping method (baseball grip method);
(2) For left hand, use palm to grip the club (yes, the club is gripped in
my left hand palm area!!) & standard right hand gripping;
(3) Use a mechanic glove with palm padding, or an anti-vibration glove
for my left hand;
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t***m
发帖数: 51 | 15 Club head上有forged标记,没有Pro。比较象日本的版本。
Graphite我看super game improvement clubs 基本都配这个。
自己感觉graphite比较弹,好借力。
是卖家赢的奖品,配置和价钱都还不错,就拿下来了。 |
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发帖数: 537 | 17 新手正在上golf课，上完第二节，每次去联系都是借club的旧球杆打，感觉杆很破。
朋友打算卖我他的一套旧tm r7 iron with graphite shaft set 4-p 共 7根杆子。不
知道适不适合初学者，以及多少钱合适，
他还有一根 nike vrs2 covert driver 想卖给我，好像也是graphite的，不知道合不
合适初学者，以及多少钱。
谢谢 |
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s*******d
发帖数: 32 | 18 Prince T.T. graphite MP
My dream racquets are
1. Head prestige
2. Prince graphite classic |
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发帖数: 886 | 20 It is not aluminum racket, it is graphite.
Graphite 拍子才开始了拍子的革命。
拍子就是武器， 有着先进的武器， 水平可以提高2.5 。呵呵。 |
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f*********0
发帖数: 886 | 21 目前我球包里面的三把主力拍。预算少，没有搞到同样的拍子在一起做备拍，大虾不要
笑我。 菜鸟喜欢各种不同的拍子来适应不同的环境。另外偶都球拍也不太讲究，不同
的球拍都上手比较快，打一会就适应了。
从左到右：
1. Head Extreme Pro L3
花了99门买的新拍子，100拍面，加线后350克左右， 刚买来的时候打得很勤快，底线
击球没得说，上旋很强，手感清脆。非常适合在底线和对手拉锯。 之前也不怎么练网
前，不知道它的缺点，现在知道了，缺点是网前截击准确性差些，发球落点控制不太准。
2. Prince Comp Graphite
3.99刀在Salvation Army 店淘到的，100拍面 加线后360克左右，开始没有啥期望，线
都没有换就打了打，结果实在是喜出望外， 手感非常好， 换了好线后和比No.1 Head
Extreme Pro L3 比较。 手感好很多， 上旋也不错，当然没有L3这么强。发球和网前
比Head L3好很多。 现在成为我的主力比赛拍。 综合起来最适合。
3. Wilson Sting Graphite.
也是3.99刀在Salvation Arm |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 22 Ok, found the specifics:
It's Prince Magnesium Pro 110. 12.1 oz. Claimed 110 head size, actually
about 103. Head light (not sure how many points). Grip size 4 1/2.
It was made in the same era as the POG, but one level cheaper.
Wood
Aluminum
Magnesium
Graphite
Boron
It feels almost as elbow friendly as the POG. However, the frame tends
to deform over the years, since Magnesium is not as strong as graphite.
Other than that, it should feel quite like the POG.
So for $2 I got:
1) One Prince Magnesiu |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 23 If you don't mind using old rackets, check out your nearby
thrift stores. You might find something you like for under
$5.
Some examples:
GoodWill: a big chain. I saw a bunch of wood rackets and a
few aluminum and one graphite there.
Salvation Army: another big chain.
Value Village: a not necessarily big chain. I saw a few aluminums
there.
St Vincent De Paul: a big chain. I saw a McEnroe
Boron/Graphite Mid there, but the string is broken.
Usually you'll get more choices at big chains than the loc |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 24 用了Wilson Graphite Force 85, 偶的网前技术立即从1.5上升至2.0.
极其轻便，而且弹性很好。
首先列一下偶3个拍子的指数：
Wilson Graphite Force 85: actual head size around 88, strung
weight 12.7oz, 5pt HL, stiffness less than PS6.0 but higher
than Sting, probably 55-60?
Prince Magnesium Pro 110: actual head size around 103,
strung weight 12.1oz, very HL (more than 5). Stiffness unknown,
probably 50-55? (too flexible, the head even deforms)
Head LM Radical 98: actual head size around 95, strung weight
11.2oz, 4pt HL (feels less HL than that) |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 25 只列出了Graphite拍。如果遇到下列拍子便宜卖，可以直接拿下。
Dunlop Max 200G:
Used by McEnroe, Graf.
Head Prestige Classic 600
Used by Safin, Ivanisevic.
Prince Original Graphite (POG)
Used by Chang, Agassi, Sabatini.
Pro Kennex Black Ace
Wilson Prostaff 6.0
Used by Sampras, Edberg, Connors, Evert, Federer.
Yonex R-22
Used by Navratilova. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 26 今天正式试打了一下墙。
结果：
groundstrokes: 7
slice: 10
serve: 7
volley: 10
基本无什么spin, 但是此拍才是偶心目中的削球神拍，削球那一下极其solid.
对比Head Graphite Pro Mid 90 (prestige系列）基本上不是一个档次的感觉，
呵呵。
此拍感觉挥重很小，对比Head Graphite Pro明显灵活很多，更适合手腕派。
但是打出来的球基本没什么速度，而且还是在没有topspin的情况下。发球有同
样的问题，感觉很难发快。
测量结果为6 pt head light. 但是这个拍子的拍柄被人customized过 (4 5/8
减少至 4 3/8左右），所以不一定是标准配置。
总之还是比较满意的，比较适合体力不支时防守用。 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 27 从偶的一堆thrift store的烂拍子中，挑了3把还有点价值的奔一下。
左边是Wilson Graphite Force Mid 85，跟KPS88比较接近。Grip size 4 1/4.
中间是Head Graphite Pro Mid 90, 跟Prestige Mid比较接近。Grip size
4 5/8.
右边是Wilson Sting 2 Mid 85, 跟Prostaff 6.0比较接近。Grip size 4 1/2.
右边的是偶当前的主力拍，左边的是pusher拍，中间的是打墙拍。
左边这个如果打断线就只能扔掉了（无配套grommet可供购买），
其他两个还有重新绷线的可能。
总价值$7 + $5 + $2 + $2(overgrips) = $16. //sigh... |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 28 In another word, it's my personal belief that technology in
tennis rackets has stalled in the past 25 years -- the improvements
are minimum.
25 years ago, people started to use graphite rackets. Now they
still use graphite rackets. None of the new things worked (e.g.
titanium). There is no fundamental change. |
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Y**s
发帖数: 1632 | 29 I have a Prince 770 (it's the smaller version of the Michael Chang Graphite)
.
I think I even have a Michael Chang graphite somewhere in my garage - my dad
used to play with it long long time ago.
I have a PS 6.0 95, and a PSC 6.1, sold another PSC 6.1 due to it having a
very different feel (completely different from my other PSC 6.1). I used
the PS 6.0 and the PSC 6.1 for a long long time before switching to Head.
I have another Prince something or other that a girl used to play...
I have a H |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 30 正是网球技术的发展，更确切地说，球拍技术的发展导致了open stance的
流行。技术永远是跟随器材的，因为50年前的人并不是笨到以至于没想起来
还可以open stance。换句话说，木拍时代closed stance流行是无数pro尝试
的最佳结果。
偶说的论点只不过在上面这个结论上多推导了一步：
1）木拍时代closed stance流行。
2）midplus Graphite carbon composite时代open stance流行。
3）木拍力量严重小于midplus Graphite carbon composite.
4) 力量小的拍更需要发力产生球速。
5）各个年代的pro们都尝试了各种方法以获得最有效的打法。
6）所以，closed stance更有助于产生球速。 |
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发帖数: 30533 | 31 应dupont要求，下面是卖得出手的list. 价格不含shipping.
disclaimer:
1) 大部分价格高于进价，原因是这些是挑选过的卖得出手的拍子，也就是
说偶耗费了很多冤枉钱屯了一堆有各种问题的老拍子，本着对买家负责
的原则偶是不会卖那些拍子的。
2) 照片是网上找的。实物照片available upon request.
1. Slazenger Demon, 4 1/2 grip
The most beautiful wood racket in my collection. Condition 8.5/10.
Normal wear in the head. Everything else is pretty new.
No cover. $10. See below for pictures.
2. Pro Kennex Composite Destiny, 4 5/8 grip
Pro Kennex 1988-1990的顶级player拍子系列。
Babolat APD的前身。（Pro Kennex后来把专利卖给了Babolat。）
Condition 7/1... 阅读全帖 |
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e**n
发帖数: 5876 | 32 另外, 台湾版至少有2个sub-versions. 早期的uni-directional graphite和后期的
braided version.
wilson官方解释"the uni-directional graphite ProStaffs were a stopgap measure
. Within 4 months of the St. Vincent factory closing, we went through 12 -
15 iterations of braided construction. Shortly thereafter, we were up and
running with braided construction ProStaffs from Taiwan. We feel we have the
closest layup to the old St. Vincent frames and most players who've played
with both agree. There will always be a few, like P... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 34 Sampras said that probably because he himself started with Jack
Kramer wood staff.
Pros nowadays started with graphite MP. So they will probably
also recommend their kids to start with graphite MP... |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 35 Google结果：
Dunlop Maxply Fort
Prince Classic
Head Professional
Wilson Jack Kramer Autograph
Head Arthur Ashe Competition
Wilson T-2000
Babolat Pure Drive
Wilson Pro Staff 6.0 85
Dunlop Max 200G
Donnay Borg Pro
10把拍子中有至少4把木拍，看来编辑至少50岁。
Dunlop Maxply和Donnay Borg Pro很少见，可能是很值钱的木拍。
Prince Classic是严重烂拍。
Head Pro不知道是哪一款。偶有Head Graphite Pro，是Prestige的前身。
Jack Kramer Autograph很多人认为不如Jack Kramer Prostaff (wood),
包括tennisalways.
Arthur Ashe Competition是形状很好看的木拍，偶差点以为是graphite
而误买。
T-2000实在太难看，一直不敢买。但据说感觉很好... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 36 Basically it's wood racket, but has a graphite "paint job". One
graphite layer on each outside to prevent the racket from warping. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 38 Yes, it's wood laminated with graphite layers, similar to
Prince Woodie. I do have a 80% graphite/20% kelvar Donnay, but
I've already shown it before. |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 39 Have you tried head light oversize rackets? I asked you before.
Probably not.
There are very few such sticks available now. I only know Head
Radical OS (in the 11oz range) and POG OS (in the 12oz range).
With similar HL specifications, OS rackets are obviously more
forgiving than MP/Mid rackets at the net.
Back in the 1980's, Prince had so many HL oversizes. All of them
felt great. I have the following:
POG (107): 12.2 oz, 5 pt HL.
Magnesium Pro (101): 12.1 oz, 8 pt HL.
Graphite Comp (102): 13.2... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 40 偶用不了这么多只。One of my favorite rackets.
两只Prince Graphite Tour(TW现在卖的版本），oversize 107, 4 1/2 grip,
unstrung, no cover.
6.5-7.0/10 condition. New bumper guard. New original leather grip
(always used overgrip). Above average scratches. No cracks.
6.5/10 one $45 shipped. 7.0/10 one $50 shipped. Together $88 shipped.
一只Prince Graphite Michael Chang Longbody (28"), oversize 107,
4 5/8 grip. Strung with Prince syn gut 17g. 8.0/10 condition.
One or two paint chips. Grip in good condition. Has a few broken... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 41 I am not trying to make you believe. You can always choose not
to believe. Racket manufacturers have tried their best to achieve
that goal (i.e. the majority of retail base not knowing the paint
job tricks).
Just a few of facts (or consider it as my personal opinion if you
prefer):
1) Graphite rackets last forever. They don't go bad. They have
infinite shelf life. The only way to make people buy more rackets
is to promote new generations frequently (and discontinuing old
ones).
2) For the last 2... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 42 After some research I found some info on Emrik Grand Prix.
People say it's an "Australian" Prince Woodie, which means it is
probably not a graphite racket. Rather, it is wood racket laminated
with graphite.
I have a Prince Woodie. It's very flexible and difficult to play
modern tennis.
If you upload some pics of your racket I can probably give you some
more info. |
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发帖数: 11837 | 43 fisher m pro no 1
Technical Specifications
Length 27 inches 69 centimeters
Head Size 98 square inches 632 square centimeters
Weight 11.8 ounces 335 grams
Balance Point 12.625 inches
32 centimeters 7pts Head Light
Construction 20-25mm
Composition Graphite / Fiberglass / Piezotec Fibres
String Pattern 16 Mains / 20 Crosses
Babolat RDC Ratings
Score
Grade
Flex Rating 58 Range: 0-100
Swing Weight 317 Range: 200-400
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a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 44
了.
这两拍子基本是双胞胎。 哪个便宜买哪个吧：
Name YOUTEK IG Radical Pro YOUTEK IG Prestige S
Head Size 98in² / 632cm² 98in² / 632cm²
Length 27.00in / 68.58cm 27.00in / 68.58cm
Weight 11.40oz / 323g 11.40oz / 323g
Balance Point 3pts HL 3pts HL
Swing Weight 330 315
Frame Stiffness 62 63
Beam Width 22.0mm 22.0mm
Tip / Shaft 22.0mm / 22.0mm 22.0mm / 22.0mm
Composition d3o / Innegra / Graphite d3o / Innegra / Graphite
Power Lev... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 996 | 45 那我想从L０上升用L２， L３ 或L４的牌子，下面哪个适合我TRANSIT呢？
Head YOUTEK IG Instinct
Head Size:
100 sq. in. / 645.16 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 10.9oz / 309.01g
Balance: 5 pts HL
Swingweight: 303
Stiffness: 69
Beam Width: 23mm / 25mm / 24mm /
Composition: d3o / Innegra / Graphite
Power Level: Low-Medium
Stroke Style: Medium-Full
Swing Speed: Medium-Fast
Head_YOUTEK_IG_Radical_Midplus
Head Size:
98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
Length: 27in / 68.58cm
Strung Weight: 11.3oz / 320.35g
Balance: 3 pts HL
Sw... 阅读全帖 |
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 46 哈，跟我一样疯狂。下面是我的球拍历史，大多数球拍已经转卖掉了，大多数球拍一买
一卖基本上不亏，就当免费demo。
现在收藏K90(new)，Head Prestige Classic Mid，
主力拍： Head Microgel Prestige Pro
1. Wilson TW买的大力拍(记不起型号了）x1
2. Head i.Radical OS x1
3. Prince Triple Thread Bandit OS x1
4. Prince Graphite Original (POG) OS x3
5. Prince Graphite Original (POG) Mid x3
6. Head i.Prestige MP x3
7. Wilson Classic 6.1 95 x2
8. Wilson Ncode SixOne 95 x2
9. Wilson Prostaff Tour 90 x1
10. Wilson Ncode Tour 90 x1
11. Wilson Kfactor Tour 90 x2
12. Wilson Prostaff 6.0 95 x2
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发帖数: 1835 | 47 Graphite Tungsten (GT) 跟没有 Graphite Tungsten 的 APD 有神马区别？
我一直用有GT的，上次借了没有GT的，感觉打得更好。 |
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f*********a
发帖数: 18 | 48 重新捡起网球半年多了，一直在用walmart的大头拍跟公园里的成人班。
最近悲催的发现拍子的拍柄好像买大了，特别是缠了一圈胶布之后，打久了虎口有
些疼。然后练习volley时感觉拍子头重脚轻，拍面经常歪。于是动了换个拍子念头。
第一个拍子是一姐们电话里墙裂推荐的，可惜和我不在一个城市，不能拿她的试，
100的拍面不确定习不习惯：
Prince EXO3 Hornet Midplus 100 $79.95
Head Size: 100 sq. in.
Length: 27in
Strung Weight: 10.3oz / 292g
Balance: 3 pts HH
Swingweight: 313
Stiffness: 65
Beam Width: 23.5mm / 25mm / 23mm /
Power Level: Medium-High
Stroke Style: Medium-Full
Swing ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 615 | 49 Not very picky but two points are important to me
Strung Weight: 11.4oz vs 12oz
String Pattern:16 Mains / 19 Crosses vs. 18 Mains / 20 Crosses
Youtek S is more of all around type. The other maybe more for 5.0 player? I
haven't tried.
Head YOUTEK IG Prestige S
Strung Weight: 11.4oz / 323.18g
Balance: 3 pts HL
Swingweight: 315
Stiffness: 63
Beam Width: 22mm / 22mm / 22mm /
Composition: d3o / Innegra / Graphite
Power Level: Low-Medium
Stroke Style: Medium-Full
Swing Speed: Medium-Fast
Racquet Colo... 阅读全帖 |
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 50 偶之所以没错是因为偶知道现在的graphite不如以前的graphite这么个
fact. 这个fact不是偶通过逻辑来证明的，这只是一个知识。 |
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