z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 1 Yes, Gerhart and AP are normally used in different situations and different
types of plays, so directly comparing stats can be misleading.
For a better comparison, we should look at 2011 when Gerhart started several
games while AP was out with injury. Gerhart also had the highest number of
rushing attempts in his career that season.
2011 Peterson 208 attempts, 970 yards, 4.7 ypa
2011 Gerhart 109 attempts, 531 yards, 4.9 ypa
Surprisingly, when Gerhart is used as the feature bac... 阅读全帖 |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 2 one is bouncer, one is pounder. 2 different styles. AP wears you down, and
then Gerhart can pound through your tired hands. Otherwise, Gerhart would go
nowhere against fresh defense. |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 3 stats sometimes are misleading。first of all, AP may be facing 8 men in the
box all the time, but Gerhart may face only 7. 2nd, Gerhart may get
consistent positive yards, but he will never make a big run. Once break free
, AP can take it all the way to the end zone. And that's more scary.
different
several
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nearly |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 4 我也没把ap捧成神 但是你对rb的轻视我觉得有点过了
可能比较cheap 但是还是有很大作用的 比如难民比如绿湾
ap的亏国北球队都吃过 谈体会他们比我客观
黑店如果你想论证rb跟qb谁重要 我可以明确地说 在现在的大环境下 你任选两个位置
加起来我都觉得没有qb重要
你题目的讨论是ap跟gerhart 我觉得这俩人不在一个水准线上
昙花一现的rb多了去了 ap都玩了67年了 而且从刚开始玩就差不多这个水准
gerhart能玩一个赛季能进联盟前五的rb 我们再来讨论他俩
打味精所有球队都知道要防他 但还是让他动辄就刷到rushing leader的数据
你用qb的carry球队水准来要求ap 我只能呵呵下
ap去年拿了mvp差点破了记录 我才觉得hof差不多了
favre 你觉得hof有一丝可能性进不去么
我甚至觉得ap的hof跟法术的的first ballot概率差不多 |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 5 还是得看ap有多少carry 别人都是怎么防ap的
其实ap这赛季你看着已经很萎了 就这还是running leader
我觉得ap还是hof水准的rb
gerhart我总觉得跑起来太笨 没啥速度 看他跑总觉得像full back
说实话 感觉不是长久之计 |
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b*****u
发帖数: 1978 | 6 宣布 keepers 截止时间到了，还有两个队未报，只好由 commish 代选了，
尽量按照 common sense 替他们选择。
- blackshop - 队名 Y's Rad Team (原队名 Going Home)
Cam Newton QB, CAR
(2013==Keeper, 2012==Keeper，
连续两年Keeper，不可再Keep)
Danny Woodhead RB, SDG (2013==RD8)
Mike Tolbert RB, CAR (2013==RD11)
Calvin Johnson WR, DET (2013==RD1)
Brian Hartline WR, MIA (2013==RD6)
A.J. Green WR, CIN (2013==Keeper==RD1，2012==RD2)
Coby Fleener TE, IND (2013==RD9)
Graham Gano K, CAR (2013==UDFA==RD8)
New England DEF, NWE (2013==RD7)
Darren McF... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****u
发帖数: 1978 | 7 - cornlee - 队名 Longhorn Legends (代替 zli NJ Tea Party)
本来由 Commish 代选 2 名 keepers：
Vincent Jackson WR, TAM (2013==RD2)
Toby Gerhart RB, JAC (2013==RD12)
现在 owner 希望更换一名队员，因为 owner 是新ID，对规则不太熟悉，
特例批准：
Torrey Smith WR, BAL (2013==RD3)
Toby Gerhart RB, JAC (2013==RD12) |
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B******m
发帖数: 2643 | 8 1. Trent Richardson
2. Robert Griffin III
3. Andrew Luck
对barns200多码的数据基本让richardson确保在候选人中处于前列，其实上个礼拜对
Georgia Southern跑下150多yard以后ESPN的人就把Richardson放在第一了。
09年是一个斯坦福球员对一个bama球员，11年也是，不过这次Luck被媒体力捧的很厉害
，其实今年luck的表现还不如去年，而且对oregon那场很是掉链子。09年斯坦福hype
gerhart说他全年发挥都很稳定，那今年这次这个稳定的荣誉应该给Richardson，就算
对LSU那仗，Richardson也是正常发挥了水准。
如果没有媒体hype，Luck其实都算不上今年最好的QB，斯坦福的RB今年也跟gerhart在
的时候一样有1000yard rushing的数据，而且几个TE的数据也有很好。RGIII仅有的几
个大场面比赛，譬如对TCU/Oklahoma的表现都算得上经典，相反Luck对好点的球队都有
被int的记录。
Luck还有一个不利是Matt Barkley... 阅读全帖 |
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B****2
发帖数: 8892 | 9 http://www.athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-
1. Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma (2004-06)
Stats: 747 att., 4,045 yds, 41 TD, 24 rec., 198 yds, TD
The BCS version of Herschel Walker or Bo Jackson was the three-year star
from Palestine (Texas) High. A three-time first-team All-Big 12 runner
finished No. 2 in the Heisman Trophy voting as a true freshman in 2004. His
1,925 yards was an NCAA record for a true freshman and it earned him
unanimous All-American honors. Despite missing chunk... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****7
发帖数: 8463 | 10 http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB80/
home | about | documents | news | publications | FOIA | research |
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Iraq and Weapons of Mass Destruction
National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 80
Updated - February 11, 2004
Edited by Jeffrey Richelson
Originally posted December 20, 2002
Previously updated February 26, 2003
Documents - Press release - Further reading
Between Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in August 1990, and the commencement of... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 11 http://www.handelsblatt.com/meinung/kommentare/essay-in-englisc
Düsseldorf. Every war is accompanied by a kind of mental mobilization: war
fever. Even smart people are not immune to controlled bouts of this fever.
“This war in all its atrociousness is still a great and wonderful thing. It
is an experience worth having“ rejoiced Max Weber in 1914 when the lights
went out in Europe. Thomas Mann felt a “cleansing, liberation, and a
tremendous amount of hope“.
Even when thousands already lay dead on... 阅读全帖 |
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w**g
发帖数: 50 | 13 Seesid and Gerhart. People said this year is a good year for it. |
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l******e
发帖数: 3426 | 14 pudget， 这个地图上怎么找不到啊？ 谁给个link吧。
Seaside和Gerhart有没有具体的direction那片海滩啊，怎么走。。。 |
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E**y
发帖数: 1018 | 16 可能是当fullback去了，跟mike alstott一样。 |
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j*****g
发帖数: 980 | 17 看了下Viking depth chart，好像没有好的backup RB. |
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m*********s
发帖数: 354 | 18 Maples:
QB: Carson Palmer
RB: R. Mendenhall, K. Moreno, Laurence Maroney, Toby Gerhart, Jerious
Norwood
WR: Brandon Marshall, TO, Jacoby Jones, Mike Williams, Louis Murphy
TE: Antonio Gates, Jeremy Shockey
K: David Akers
DEF: Dallas |
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b***n
发帖数: 13455 | 19 QB: Alex Smith, Tebow
RB: AP, Charles, Toby Gerhart, Rashard Jennings
WR: Welker, Braylon Edwards, Bwayne Bowe, Garcon, Hartline
TE: Owen Daniels, Greg Olsen
K: none
Def: 49ers
My comments: No depth at RB, but good thing is getting a handcuff for AP. SF is the team to beat in NFC West,
so hopefully both Alex and 49ers can score a lot of points. Daniels is a very bad keeper, wasted one of my
picks which would go to a RB. |
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b***n
发帖数: 13455 | 20 QB Alex Smith SFO 28.00 - @ATL
Josh Freeman TAM 40.00 bye N/A
RB Adrian Peterson MIN 59.00 - bye N/A
Jamaal Charles KAN 42.00 - bye N/A
Mike Goodson CAR 19.00 - @NOR
Toby Gerhart MIN 3.00 - bye N/A
WR Wes Welker NWE 31.00 - @MIA
Braylon Edwards NYJ 26.00 - @BUF
Mark Cla |
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K**7
发帖数: 6610 | 21 我也关键一周，我也想问RB，现在缺一个，从下面几个里面选，对手的yahoo预测比我
稍高。
Mike Tolber vs. Oak (Questionable且Ryan Matthews要复出）
Adrian Peterson vs. Buf (Questionable)
Brian Westbrook at GB (Probable)
FA里还有：
Ronnie Brown vs. Cle
Brandon Jacobs vs. Was
LeGarret Blout vs. Alt
我自己觉得如果Peterson能上就上，如果不能上，就不知道上谁了？因为除了Tolbert
和Blout是4点，其它都是1点的比赛
还有一个选择，Peterson上不了，抓Gerhart来上 |
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T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | 22 drop AP.
I need 5 points to win. AP is out. I had to drop him to pick up Toby Gerhart
. |
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k********g
发帖数: 2534 | 23 drop someone else
Gerhart |
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x****m
发帖数: 130 | 25 First of all let me show off my starting championship team in a super
competitive league (0.5 PPR):
Week 16 starters:
QB-Freeman (FA wk 6)
RB-Choice (FA wk 11)
RB-Peyton Hillis (FA pre-season)
WR-Roddy the White (2nd rd)
WR-Michael Williams (TB) (Through Trade Wk 8 - for FA pick L.Blount)
WR-Anthony Armstrong (FA wk 14)
TE-Jacob Tamme (FA wk 8)
K-Buehler (FA wk 14)
DST-Eagles (FA wk 15)
Backups:
RB-MJD (1st rd no.3 overall)
TE-Antonio Gates (5th rd)
RB-L.T (8th rd)
WR-Blair White (FA wk 15)
RB-T... 阅读全帖 |
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d****g
发帖数: 253 | 26 1. (1) Adrian Peterson RB
2. (28) Matt Forte RB
3. (29) Miles Austin WR
4. (56) Matt Schaub QB
5. (57) Dallas Clark TE
6. (84) Jonathan Stewart RB
7. (85) Pierre Garcon WR
8. (112) Braylon Edwards WR
9. (113) Roy Williams WR
10. (140) Matt Cassel QB
11. (141) James Starks RB
12. (168) Steve Breaston WR
13. (169) Detroit DEF
14. (196) Toby Gerhart RB
15. (197) Josh Brown K
太多机器人了, 免费就是不被重视啊 |
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p****s
发帖数: 3153 | 27 哈哈，想起了gerhart还在时候的大树，好像那时候luck很不招stanford球迷待见啊 |
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b***n
发帖数: 13455 | 28 也出来show show吧：
QB: Drew Brees, Matt Flynn
RB: Steven Jackson, Peyton Hillis, Daniel Thomas, Toby Gerhart
WR: Steve Smith, Justin Blackmon, James Jones, Austin Collie, A. Benn
TE: Rob Gronkowski, Heath Miller
K: --
Def: Steelers |
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f**********n
发帖数: 10757 | 29 阿德森教授 王相毕露，拜神（方腊）龙椅不保。
当然 拜神还是有DFL第一周最强大的板凳席，上面有Adrian Peterson（21分）Michael
Bush（16分），NE（16分），Peyton Manning（24分），拜神选择了Toby Gerhart（3
.1分）Fred Jackson（1.6分）首发，最终小负，假球啊！！！ |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 30 1 AD need to have a huge game
我觉得100应该还是不成问题 关键是100？150还是200？
2 Give Packers long fields to work with on offense
Walsh跟Kluwe今年都不错 特勤比往年看着也好点 这点如果特勤做得好 还有可能
3 Show some faith in Ponder
Ponder现在是Q 我估计烟雾弹成分居多
如果他能打出W17的8份水准和运气 我就很满意了
4 Get a big game from OL
面对联盟顶尖的pass rush OL至少要尽力保护ponder
ponder最近几场展现了下pocket之外的能力 和 适时的跑攻 OL多努力吧。。。
5 Get pressue on AR with the front4
还是那句话 你让龙哥舒服了 他肯定不让你舒服 兄弟们 抄家伙上
我不担心没sack 但是一两个sack不解决问题 必须一直pressure
6 Force packers into third and long
跑攻不是特别担心 但是packer可不是打小叮当的... 阅读全帖 |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 31 咋能这么不了解你们区的对手呢。。。
toby gerhart啊 |
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a******n
发帖数: 4290 | 32 没啥说的，RB太弱了。
我gamble early on Kenbrell Thompkins, 本赛季成败就看他了。
QB: Matt Ryan, Josh Freeman
RB: Chris Ivory, DeAngelo Williams, Pierre Thomas, Toby Gerhart
WR: Julio Jones, Randell Cobb, Kenbrell Thompkins, Jacoby Jones, Darrius
Heyward-Bey
TE: Jimmy Graham
K: Baltimore's Justin Tucker
D: Bengals |
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f**********n
发帖数: 10757 | 34 你千万别听我的，我上次乌鸦的让你囤了个Ryan Broyles，寸功未立就season over了
。我觉得你也不用囤什么Gerhart了，你AP要是挂了你也快xxsl。 |
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G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 35 大本应该还可以。但是我也有A Brown，万一大本哑火，我就惨了。
CK的好处是可以跟Stacy对冲。当然大本可以跟Rice对冲，呵呵。
如果不上Rice，一个办法是抓Cunningham。另外一个最近还能得点分的似乎是MIN的
Toby Gerhart，CHI的跑防最近不大行。
现在的好处自己队里垃圾球员比较多了。可以drop 2-3个。 |
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a******n
发帖数: 4290 | 36 Wed Nov 27 12:14 AM ET: Begin processing bids.
Wed Nov 27 12:14 AM ET: Doug Baldwin awarded to Miami Canes for $99.
Wed Nov 27 12:14 AM ET: Failed bids for Doug Baldwin: $4
Wed Nov 27 12:14 AM ET: Buffalo Bills awarded to Ball Fun for $25.
Wed Nov 27 12:14 AM ET: Benny Cunningham awarded to Six-Champion Steelers
for $13.
Wed Nov 27 12:14 AM ET: Kenbrell Thompkins awarded to NJ TEA PARTY for $11.
Wed Nov 27 12:14 AM ET: Toby Gerhart awarded to NJ TEA PARTY for $11.
Wed Nov 27 12:14 AM ET: Ace San... 阅读全帖 |
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z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 37 4 rushes, 28 yards total in first 9 games of the season.
7 rushes, 67 yards against the Seahawks on 11/17.
8 rushes, 91 yards against the Packers on 11/24.
Is MVP hurt or Vikings just finally gave up on the season? |
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z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 39 Okay, but MVP still played with lots of carries (21 and 32 over last two
weeks). |
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z*i
发帖数: 58873 | 40 ap今年估计就歇了吧。 让gerhart打吧。。。 |
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 41 我看了下 没事
gerhart不觉得真能打出来 没准今年裁了。。。 |
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a******n
发帖数: 4290 | 44 toby gerhart, todman啥的，早没影了 |
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f**********n
发帖数: 10757 | 45 突然想到这个问题，我觉得肯定强点，不过强多少？职业生涯avg多了0.3YPC，不是对
AP不敬，只不过现在NFL RB就是这个地位。TB Doug Martin挂了以后，马上出来一个
undrafted FA RB跑的一样牛逼，Rams的那个第五轮RB也是风生水起，在RB身上花大钱
的也就是卖卖票，赚点眼球，在现在的NFL不是夺冠之道啊。 |
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g*******s
发帖数: 2828 | 46 还是强不少吧。副教授基本都是冲着8 man box 跑出来的
我基本同意你的观点。rb是最容易替换的。现在给rb大合同或者高位选基本是脑残。 |
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f**********n
发帖数: 10757 | 47 Titans马上要release CJ2000了，另外两个大合同Arian Foster和Ray Rice打的跟屎一
样，就算去年Ravens夺冠，Rice也打的很屎，一堆fumble，基本靠Flacco。有点vision
，能pass block一下，NFL RB选择太多了。 |
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G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 48 这种爆发型RB是锦上添花的东西。
还是Lynch，Foster，Forte那样的结实的管用吧。如果能保持YPC 4.0，QB高兴的不得
了吧。 |
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G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 49 胡扯呀，靠谱的RB屈指可数呀。
现在NFL跑攻的球队也就4/5个了吧：Seahawks, 49ers, Bears, Chiefs?
vision |
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