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k*******n
发帖数: 5546
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 众兄,帮忙找跟枪管呗~~~

我想先弄一个先打着,16寸的不是太重我能接受,flute要钱啊。
profile太轻的,我怕不锈钢热得太快,一般35oz以下就行,太重的我怕万一和你们去
取个肉,背不动。
16寸比较轻和短,18寸相似profile的还是有点重,管长对精度影响不大,损失三十五
十的初速,也就认了。
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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我觉得medium profile加不加fluting都正好。
初速方面,看你准备用啥弹药. 小口径高初速弹讲究fragmentation, m855的reliable/
minimum fragmentation初速是2700-2500fps
16寸枪管, m855弹的fragmentation距离是大概100/150米,
14.5寸枪管则是50/100米。
14.5如果想可靠的让m855弹形成破片, 距离必须在50米内...这有点悲剧, 如果用
Hornady 75gr TAP, 破片距离是2250fps, 也就是175m
16寸枪管打75gr TAP则是200m
结论, SHTF只能大量囤积普通弹药, 所以要用16寸。
h**********n
发帖数: 394
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 新Tikka T3 Lite, 30-06,$340, 值得买么?
我感觉Chuck Hawks 这人就是那种很典型的old fart 的代表,在枪店经常能够遇到。
他对于浮动式枪管的观点太幼稚了,完全不肯接受新的科学理论。假如浮动枪管就是低
档商家的噱头,那么为何世界上所有的高端狙击步枪都采用纯浮动式枪管?Because it
works, pumpkin.
我有一把Tikka T3 Stainless .243,一把 Savage 10 FCPK 308 (24 fluted heavy
barrel with muzzle break) 和一把 Savage 16 Trophy XP .308(比10FCPK 轻很多,
枪管又厚于Tikka T3). 这三把枪的精度都可以轻松达到sub MOA, 扳机是完全两种不同
的风格,都很优秀。Savage stock 的做工虽然明显不如Tikka, 但是吸收后座与性价比
远高于后者。如果只让我选择一把bolt action 来用于打猎/打靶/玩儿的话,我会毫
不犹豫选择Savage 16 Trophy XP, 因为其厚重的枪管有利于在靶场上维持精度。相比
之下,轻盈的Tikka 在20发以后精度就开始因为... 阅读全帖
k**8
发帖数: 2212
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 感觉这是真DEAL
HOWA .30-06 FLUTED HOGUE RIFLE BLACK STK
$523.00
L******1
发帖数: 70
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
版上有没有人打过这一款的? 有的话能不能品价一下? 比起Sig716怎么样?
这款FNAR草已经长了几年了, 网上评论都不错,不知弟兄们有何见解?
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_58
a***a
发帖数: 8941
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
老实说我一直觉得这枪好丑啊,愣是把bar改成了恶俗的四不像
以前不是有人贴过视频么?这个枪的分解特别复杂,勤务性太差了
k**8
发帖数: 2212
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
在AR里,这枪是有点与众不同。不过,就有自己的风格了。
a***a
发帖数: 8941
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
这枪真的跟ar不沾边,无论外形还是内部结构都很ar没关系
k**8
发帖数: 2212
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
哦,我见识浅了。它应该算------
f*******r
发帖数: 5301
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
分解不算很复杂,就需要一把螺丝刀拧螺丝,一个小棍捅pin,跟remington 870倒是有
点像
活塞枪机匣很干净,一般不用全枪分解,擦擦活塞喷点油就够了,更何况是308,一般
打不了多少
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
Browning BAR猎枪的tacticool版
k**8
发帖数: 2212
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
属猎枪,谢谢。
f*******r
发帖数: 5301
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
BAR = "Browning Automatic Rifle"
FNAR大概的意思就是,把B换成FN,叫FN Automatic Rifle,不过只有半自动
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
实际上到了FNAR就改成了FN Autoloading Rifle了。
http://www.fnhusa.com/l/products/commercial/autoloading-rifles/
J.M. Browning孙子辈开的公司有点挂羊头猫狗肉的意思, 这枪明明跟BAR M1918一点
关系没有, 偏偏也要起名叫BAR, 完全是借用JMB作品的名头。
就好像Springfield Armory inc和Springfield Armory的关系。
f*******r
发帖数: 5301
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
顺便说个真的缺点
这个枪的side rail方向是斜的,所以只是装饰,不能挂任何东西,你说可以挂背带吧
,它还是直接tap在塑料上的,不能承重。。。所以绝对是纯装饰,只能挂hello kitty
逗小孩了
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1

我还以为handguard是全程金属骨骼的呢, 不然这枪咋这么沉
相比BAR shortrac stalker系列只有6磅多啊。

kitty
f*******r
发帖数: 5301
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
枪管,机匣,供弹装置都不一样吧,BAR是猎枪,能连打几发就够了,FNAR是镇暴枪,
容弹量大,持续火力也应该比BAR强
20" light FNAR不算弹匣的重量8.25lbs,和一般的308战斗步枪相似
弹匣死贵死重,空的有一磅,用的钢比我的小保险柜还结实
f********r
发帖数: 3155
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
716炒到两千了,这个价位上FNAR不错
h*********2
发帖数: 2508
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
俺的是重管,更沉,不过who cares, 用这抢就是坐着或者趴着稳稳当当打,灰常可靠
精确,极其超值。
p**x
发帖数: 6614
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
上SCAR 17吧
d********e
发帖数: 2221
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
这个东西不是定位在半自动精确步枪吗?和AR这类突突完全不一样吧。
F*****t
发帖数: 1138
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
俺在出事前,考虑过,太贵,没上,后悔...
d*****n
发帖数: 908
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - FN FNAR .308 Win. 20" Light Fluted Barrel 20+1
$1480,涨了大约50%
出事前20寸轻管1000,重管1400.
p*********e
发帖数: 32207
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: larrywolf (razor's edge), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 最适合做狙击步枪的枪是什么?zz M40和M24狙击步枪的心脏 - 雷明顿700型枪机
发信站: The unknown SPACE (Mon Oct 28 00:31:37 2002) WWW-POST
1969年, 美国陆战队狙击手查克?毛欣尼(Chuck Mawhinney), 在越南安和(An Hoa)附近
地区巡逻时, 以7.62公厘雷明顿M40步枪, 从九百码的距离, 击杀三名越共, 确认一
名。 他总共累计103名确认击杀, 是美军在越战中确认击杀数最高的狙击手, 主要使用
7.62公厘雷明顿M40步枪。
* * *
他们原以为是来维持和平的, 眼前的情况, 他们变成了夹心饼乾。 什叶派枪手, 黎巴
嫩陆军, 以色列部队已经在周边打成了一团。
今天刚刚下达新的命令:『在受到攻击的情况下, 可以还击。』
一排子弹从头上飞过。
他从沙袋的间隙中, 扫瞄眼前已成了废墟的城市。
八月的艳阳使... 阅读全帖
b*****e
发帖数: 5133
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 请问版标图片里面的是什么枪?
手柄上的圈好像是wilson combat才有,其它厂枪手柄上的Logo好像没有这样的。
另外coutersunk slide stop量产厂枪也不多见。
如果custom改动不多的话,更像是reverse two tone finish的Wilson Combat Classic
/Classic Supergrade。front strap checkering, trigger undercut, high-ride
beavertail, fluted chamber, front cocking serration, adjustable rear sight
等等很多feature都是Wilson Combat Classic标配。
放张图对比一下:
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 长时间不在家枪怎么办?
send them all out for gun smithing
trigger jobs, cerakote, match crown, muzzle threading, barrel fluting....
e*f
发帖数: 1709
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Mossberg item # 55111: 500 slugster with 12 ga fluted rifled barrel and
canister scope rail, LPA trigger and only 7 lbs of weight !
http://grabagun.com/mossberg-55111-500-slugster-24-flu.html
+
Mesa hydraulic stock kit
http://mesatactical.com/products/leo-telescoping-hydraulic-reco
这个配置又轻(7-8 lbs),又准(1-3 moa, up to 200 yards), 后坐基本可以忽
略(阻尼弹簧枪托),射速快(泵动),威力大 (12 ga sabot slugs)。
用来打鹿,打熊,兼顾防熊;或者作为露营防熊枪看起来都是很不错的。
e*f
发帖数: 1709
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - 请各位大侠帮忙
I would rather get a thicker (>= 1" diameter), fluted, slightly shorter
barrel with the same or slightly less weight for higher rigidity.
S**********s
发帖数: 4534
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来自主题: GunsAndGears版 - Springfield M1A 有没有太重
G3 / PTR的闭锁方式是半刚性闭锁, 加上枪膛是fluted chamber, 对铜弹壳伤害很大。
n****e
发帖数: 6292
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血)
再补充一下
除了5.56之外,wylde也有很多好评
枪管从粗细来看,有铅笔管、重管、fluted等等区别
z******o
发帖数: 3285
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来自主题: loseweight版 - JCrew 今天打折
what to buy? I looked around, interested in the fluted skirt, but I want
more discount.
c*********n
发帖数: 2120
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来自主题: Running版 - Back on the track
Yesterday I got an Email from a local running club about a track training at
5:30am. I was thinking: it was too early, it is not safe that early, I do
not want to drive...
Then I woke up at 5:30am this morning. Even I tried to go back to sleep, I
was thinking about the track. Well, the excitement won so I left my
apartment about 6:15am. The cross country team of the university was there.
But somehow only one guy was running, and all the others are chatting or
warming up on the side?
So I started... 阅读全帖
q*c
发帖数: 17993
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来自主题: Ski版 - 北美最难的10个雪道
http://gearjunkie.com/north-americas-toughest-ski-runs
North America's Toughest Ski Runs
A long time ago, as a burgeoning ski bum in the early 1990s, I kept a
scribbled list in a notebook of some of North America’s most difficult
double-diamond runs, from archetypes like Corbet’s Couloir at Jackson Hole,
to Snowbird’s Great Scott in Utah, and the Palisades at Squaw Valley,
Calif.
My goal was simple: to travel the continent and ski them all.
And I did.
Only later did I discover that this was noth... 阅读全帖
i***d
发帖数: 878
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第三天,要装车退房,九点半才收拾完上了lift。本来打算先去7th Heaven跟户外大牛
YH介绍从DC来的网友P兄见一面,然后去Whistler一边的harmony、symphony去玩玩儿。
结果一看晚了怕下午天气不好symphony去不了,就先坐p2p去Whistler,电话也打不通
只好放了P兄的鸽子,抱歉了!从Whistler的Roundhouse下到harmony的路比较难搞,打
算找到Rabbit Tracks或者G.S蓝道下去,却怎么也找不到标示。于是就沿着盘山路过去
,估计是Ratfink黑道,娃们下降太快,最后不得不下到一个绿道上,可能是Marmot,
小孩们的单板走了不少路。
上了harmony到顶,发现原来这是Little Whistler Peak小顶峰,而且四通八达,有
pika's traverse绿道回roundhouse,有burnt stew trail绿道转jeff's ode to joy蓝
道去symphony,还可以走后山the saddle蓝道下到Peak Express,从Peak还有一条下到
这里的雪道。我们全家走burnt stew... 阅读全帖
q*c
发帖数: 17993
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Indulgence of Skiing with Thee 如歌的滑雪行板
Indulgence of Skiing with Thee
I carry my skis and walk to thy side.
We put down our works in hand heading for skiing with delight.
I ski down on powdery snow by thee hearing thy breath along our ride,
My heart beats no rest nor respite in the flight.
We travel across mountain with cliffs and chutes.
We see snow flakes drifting down on to the tree.
Thou place thy eyes passing through powder splash on me with silent melody
out of magic flutes.
Our mind and s... 阅读全帖
q*c
发帖数: 17993
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Indulgence of Skiing with Thee 如歌的滑雪行板
Indulgence of Skiing with Thee
I carry my skis and walk to thy side.
We put down our works in hand and head out for skiing with delight.
I ski down on powdery snow by thee hearing thy breath along our ride,
My heart beats no rest nor respite in the flight.
We travel across mountain with cliffs and chutes.
We see snow flakes drifting down on to the tree.
Thou place thy eyes passing through powder splash on me with silent melody
out of magic flutes.
Our mind ... 阅读全帖
y****i
发帖数: 5690
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我看到有人那么走的。不过我是还不敢的,就是看看。后来下到SYMPHONY之后远远还看
到有人继续那么下来。
刚看了下地图,恩应该就是我们看到有人下去的地方。
我下的那个也许是黑道的叫FLUTE BOWL,人很少,雪超厚。摔了就是坐羽绒被子上面一
样,舒服,哈哈!
顺便推荐个APP,MAPRIKA,很好用,还可以GPS显示当前自己位置,不会再有迷路之忧了
。不过不能总开,费电。需要找路的时候看一下就好。对于WHISLTER这么巨大的山,不
熟悉的时候,很有帮助。
T****7
发帖数: 1613
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来自主题: Travel版 - Death Valley游记
转过无数的山弯,终于看到了远处的终点,red cathedral fluted wall,
直译就是红教堂的凹槽墙。以前的Panamint印第安人用这里的红土做体绘。
T****7
发帖数: 1613
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来自主题: Travel版 - Death Valley游记
转过无数的山弯,终于看到了远处的终点,red cathedral fluted wall,
直译就是红教堂的凹槽墙。以前的Panamint印第安人用这里的红土做体绘。
L********g
发帖数: 4204
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来自主题: TVGame版 - 老卡这次很过分啊
no 煌黑的的双刀? damm, then there must be no 煌黑 other weapons like the
hunting flute, hopefully they have 煌黑 bow
H*H
发帖数: 1244
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来自主题: astrology版 - 处女男是不是都是唐僧啊!
任凭人再怎么高帅富。,又是礼物,又是做饭,又是playing flute,又是月亮星星,
又是荡秋千。。。各种浪漫。。。
哎,
真没办法,
这唐僧就是橙子姐的死穴。
不来电再怎么也没办法。
感慨一番,这人生就是愿非所得,得非所愿。
H**p
发帖数: 135
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - EMI new releases "20th century great recordings"
see www.emiclassics.com
This time the released recordings are all operas. Most of
them are reissues.
All in mid-price.
Among them there are,
Beethoven
Fidelio (Klemperer) once in full price release.
Bizet
Carmen(Beecham)
Mozart
Cosi Fan Tutte (Boehm) The most acclaimed version of this
opera.
Magic Flute(Klemperer) once in full price release.
And more.
w*******n
发帖数: 4188
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: Please recommend some female solo CDs?
There are some arias in operas are really fantastic.
Such as "Casta diva"in "Norma(callas)
"E susanna non vien " in "Magic Flute" (Barbara Henderecks)
Sutherland's "lakeme'
"Jewel song" and "Bell song" in Faust
Freni's "La boheme"
Sutherland's"Turndot"
Dalia 's aria in Samson and dallila.
There are too many beautiful beautiful songs and voices in
operas.If you have interset ,you can buy the whole set.Or
else you may buy some collection.
H**p
发帖数: 135
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Fricsay
It is a wonder that Hugary contributes so many outstanding conductors to the
world, including Reiner, Ormandy, Szell, Solti, Kertesz. Another one who is
easily forgot is Ferenc Fricsay. Actually he and the orchestra RIAS he conducted
was the backbone for DG recordings in the 1950s.
Superificially speaking, his style is romantic and emotional. The other
characteristic is that his tempo is very fast. He left behind quite a few good
recordings, including two famous mono ones: Mozart's Magic Flute a
H**p
发帖数: 135
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 大家说说自己最喜欢的单声道CD吧.
本人买的不多,有的也就是那些炒的:

EMI BEETHOVEN 9 FURTWANGLER
EMI TOSCA CALLAS
DG MOZART MAGIC FLUTE FRICSAY
DUTTON MAHLER 9 WALTER(好象乐团用的滑音很多)
w********h
发帖数: 12367
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 劳动节快乐
劳动之余,
听段Canon,
http://genres.mp3.com/music/classical/baroque/
第7首
"Canon in D" by HarpSong (Harp & Flute)
(Baroque)
m****t
发帖数: 5
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - bow to Mozart
hoho, I think violin concerto 3 is better. But comparing to some other
work from him, those 5 violin concertos are just minor things.
Try his piano concerto 19, 21, 23 & 27.
Try his clarinet concerto
Try numerous of his piano sonatas.
If you like sweet food, try his horn, flute and basson concertos
Also, his symphony 25, 28, 29, 32, 36, 40, 41(the greatest one)
Finally, never forget his operas! They are marverlous.
k*t
发帖数: 2
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 大家帮看看哪个作胎教音乐好
世界著名十大胎教音乐
01.土耳其进行曲Turkischer March
02.莫扎特弦乐小夜曲 Serenade from Mozart
03.G小调第25号交响曲 第一乐章The Movement No.1 Symphony No.25 of Minor g
04.嬉游曲Song of Curvet
05.费加罗婚礼序曲The Marriage of Figaro
06.抒情圣笛五重奏Flute Reprise Five Express One's Emotion
07.幻想曲Traumerei
08.午夜的月光Late-night Moonlight
09.安睡吧,小宝贝Go to Sleep My Baby
10.摇篮曲Lullaby
Disc 1胎教音乐.莫扎特使宝宝更聪明(1)Mozart Makes Baby More Clever (1)
1.快乐宝宝(G大调小提琴协奏曲第一乐章) 10′26"
Merry Baby (G Major , Violin Concerto, First Movement)
2.和爷爷奶奶散步(G大调第四十一交响曲第二乐章) 9′25"
S
a*******y
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 八卦电影莫扎特的音乐
首先Don Giovanni序曲里面那个可怕的动机出现过几次,一次是开头,一次是
Mozart看见父亲,第三次是黑衣人找Mozart,Mozart开门.
开始,Mozart Symphony No.25 1st movement
Salieri对神父弹钢琴,最后那个让神父动容的是Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, 1st
movement. Mozart最著名的小夜曲.
Salieri在主教的音乐初见Mozart,Mozart在泡MM,指挥迟到.后来S去翻看乐谱的那首,是
Mozart Serenada "Gran Partita",是为纯管乐所写,中间的慢乐章.
Salieri在皇帝面前被Mozart羞辱,Mozart把他的乐曲改编,好象是Mozart的一首舞曲,但是
其中那个旋律是Le Nozze di Figaro中Figaro的咏叹调.
Mozart指挥歌剧<后宫出逃>
Mozart的wife去找Salieri,给他看手稿,里面有很多片断,
1 Concerto for Flute and Harp, K 299, 2nd movement
2 为小提琴中提琴写的交
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这一则虽然已是四年前的事, 但甚少乐迷知道这个了:
http://www.playbillarts.com/news/article/5537.html
录音工程师 Michel Bernstein 在法国创立了多个唱片公司 由五十年代, 至 92年间 不断发
掘新并灌录新乐种,尤其对早期音乐, 有着重要的贡献。可惜而06年去世後, 这些遗留
下来的录音, 由於十分冷门。所以一直等到去年, Bernstein 的最後成立唱片公司
Arcana 才被收购并重申发行所有旧录音。这个 label 的录首盾素甚佳。我自己也买了
些 cd , 甚喜爱这几个录音: Stradella: Cantate , Vivaldi flute concerto,
violin sonata, , Caldara Sinfonie a Quattro 。
参考网页:
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/home/search?fastsearch=arcana&rubric=classic&pd_orderby=score&page=1
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