w****b 发帖数: 623 | 1 Play 2 rounds of trump to dummy's K.
If trump 2-2, then we may try for an over trick.
After SK draws trump, play a C off table. If RHO starts with KQxxx, he may
duck, since otherwise it gives you a chance to set up a discards if you are
stiff. Then you can ruff finesse the DA to pitch C. And try to drop HQ for
overtrick.
If trump 3-1, since we can't ruff a H, it's not safe to try this line, so
fall back to knock out CK and ruff finesse D. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 2 Guessing with total lack of information is, well, pure guess. "Good judgment
" is essentially good educated guess. A good bidding sequence is such an
example. Although the bidding doesn't reveal complete information (e.g.
whether a particular suit is T9876 or T9654), it gives sufficient clue as to
what the best contract would likely be.
"Good judgment" is also about looking ahead. A good-judgment call is one
that aims at maximizing our benefit and minimizing the risk. It guides the
bidding in a ... 阅读全帖 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 3 For those tables who didn't receive S lead, they'll certainly take the D
finesse.
If D Q is on, you still can hope that D is 4-2 and you can make 7 and they
can make 6. If D Q is off, it is a push. So you beat them for slightly above
30% of times and other times, it is a push. This feels good enough to me.
If you play squeeze in H and D, the squeeze works for DQx or HQx or DQ and
HQ at the same hand. I don't have a calculator with me. Let me estimate as
following:
The worst case, west holds DQxx... 阅读全帖 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 4 This hand isn't very easy to bid if 2H(D) is a popular choice.
First, north's hand is slightly weaker than a 3 C overcall. Suppose north
passes,
the only sensible choice for south is to double. Now north can bid 4C to
show 6 clubs and good hand, (although most would just bid 3NT IMO and I don't think it's clear for south to invite because of the first pass by north) just slightly weaker than a normal 3C. The only
bid for south is 4H, north now need to guess to bid 6C. Of course if north
overcall... 阅读全帖 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 5 Well, for this hand, with HJ in hand and no SK, it may be quite simple. with
H7 or H8 in hand, it is really not clear whether they are useful or not,
especially when you also hold SK. It is possible that opener just try to
cash out before taking a spade finesse to make two overtricks. If you pitch
the spade early, you may just help him to set up the good ST when partner
holds SJ. Some declarer may not want to play the end game in H at all.
That's why I said, we really shouldn't expect that defen... 阅读全帖 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 6 If east shows 5-4-3-1, it's still better to squeeze east. The only layouts
you want to take the finesse against east are 5-3-4-1 or 5-3-5-0. So if east
shows no clubs, it's better to finesse east, otherwise, it's probably a
good idea just to squeeze west. Also, the dummy reversal can help the
declarer to discover the club situation and decide which line to choose.
Also, this hand indicates a useful false card situation. Suppose you hold QT
KQxxx xxxx xx, you should play HK to encourage partner p... 阅读全帖 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 7 If H is 3-3, you can always make it if you only lose one trump in C.
if H is 4-2, you can make it if you can ruff two H or HQx appears and you
also lose only one C later.
so it appears that you want to play LHO to hold 2 H and Cxx, CJxx, CKxx, CJx
CKx or CKJ. Or RHO holds 2H and can't overruff you, or after RHO's overruff
with CJ, you just take the success finesse in C and later play a squeeze in
S and H or S is 3-3 with SQ on side.
so it's good to just ruff H right away and see what happens.
If... 阅读全帖 |
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 8 par contest is very different from real bridge situations. Gib is not bad in
par contest simply because in par contest a lot of constraints can be
supplied. In real life, that's totally a different issue. You have to figure
out defender's possible holding all by yourself. Also, in par contest, you
just solve the problem. In real life bridge, your opps intentionally seek
your holes and weakness to take the maximum profit out of them.
Unfortunately, there are just way too many holes in gib's playi... 阅读全帖 |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 9 Did you mean if SQ loses?
If SQ wins, everyone will take finesse I assume.
The strange thing against my feeling is that if SQ loses, the chances to
finesse and drop seem the same. |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 10 This one seems easy, especially with the hint from the title :)
Win C, and finesse H with Q. If it loses, we finesse trump using the entry
in C. If LHO ducks HQ and RHO holds SKxx or Kx, we congratulate him for the
nice play. |
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j*******e 发帖数: 2168 | 11 Seems that I have to finesse, in this sequence. I have already played hearts
and forfeited any chance of squeeze.
When E shows out on 2nd D, what's his discard?
And any lead convention for QJxx or QJx?
If I plan to play squeeze against E, i.e. E has SK, HQJT9, and CKxxxx (so W
only QJx and cannot control clubs after another round of club ruff), I need
to play 3rd D first and watch E's discards.
I am more inclined to play simple finesse than assuming E has all the S & H
keycards and certain shape... 阅读全帖 |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 12 Yes, on the play, declarer can afford to draw 3 rounds of trumps and concede
one to East (dummy will of course keep at least 4 hearts). Then win the
return and test hearts. Once East shows 4+ in hearts, it will be a show-up
squeeze if East also holds DQ. Compared with simple finessing, this line
also captures the chance of West being DQx.
If West has 4 hearts, he can hardly have more than 1 diamond, so finessing (
after cashing one diamond top) is almost 100% safe.
As for the bidding, South has ... 阅读全帖 |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 13 Yes, on the play, declarer can afford to draw 3 rounds of trumps and concede
one to East (dummy will of course keep at least 4 hearts). Then win the
return and test hearts. Once East shows 4+ in hearts, it will be a show-up
squeeze if East also holds DQ. Compared with simple finessing, this line
also captures the chance of West being DQx.
If West has 4 hearts, he can hardly have more than 1 diamond, so finessing (
after cashing one diamond top) is almost 100% safe.
As for the bidding, South has ... 阅读全帖 |
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p******e 发帖数: 1151 | 14 The main point is for this hand, you might want to be precise whether you
have a grant slam (7S/7D) or not.
The choice of S as trump (even with 5-4) needs SQ. Without SQ, your chance
would only be a successful finesse or S is 2-2. These chances are good when
you are trying 6S, but definitely it is not a good sign when you bid 7. (At
least my position is that if a grant slam relies on a successful finesse,
then you should not try it in general)
Hence my problem at the time was whether we could ha... 阅读全帖 |
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p******e 发帖数: 1151 | 15 finesse D miss another case (with very small possibility though).
When D is 1-5, and DQ is singleton for west, then DAK wins; while finesse D
almost always fails when is D 1-5. |
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b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 16 Examples are the same. But I don't know how to make you see it.
Again, "give you a chance to guess better" doesn't mean it is better than "
immediate fail". For argument's sake, let's say line 2 and 3 are exactly the
same chance (they are actually not, but I am not going to elaborate it). So
you play SJ, covered by SK, SA.
Now, next round, you play low, RHO follows but not with 10. In theory, you
can make it 100% of time now, if you can guess right whether to drop 10 or
finesse. It's same as, in... 阅读全帖 |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 17 I was tricking you :)
You are right that the real chance is actually CQ onside. But playing
squeeze will take care of the unlikely chance with CQx offside.
LHO has:
KJTxx
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KJxxx
Qxx
At the table, a commentator said it would be a make since declarer has no
way to go wrong. He meant both SK and CQ are onside, and CQ will drop in
third round. But after giving up the finesse on SJ lead, all those nice
options are gone, except C finesse.
In fact, LHO was squeezed in 3 suits, so he had to give up CQ... 阅读全帖 |
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i****e 发帖数: 642 | 18 LHO will set up another S trick. So you will lose 2S and CAK. It seems the
chance now is to finesse C8 for two club tricks. It should be better than DT
finesse.
Will it be better to try C first, since it is not easy for them to set up
3rd C trick? |
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m*****n 发帖数: 1631 | 19 Gamakatsu Finesse Wide Gap 1/0, 2/0
Gamakatsu Finesse Wide Gap Weedless 1/0, 2/0 |
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b******d 发帖数: 1948 | 20 我正好反一反,我夏天用finess jig,现在都不好用,反倒是spinner又立新功。
其实finess我也试了试,没有好的lure,如果有crawfish之类,模拟bait的lure,那应
该还是有效的 |
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s*******n 发帖数: 4748 | 21 抓个语病。我也没有说过“现在都要用finesse钓”或者spinnerbait/crankbait是夏天
的钓法这样的话...,哈哈哈。
我的体会是深秋气温低,鱼情不活跃,咬口很轻。你的那篇文章也给我这样的印象。自
己水平低,说出来没有人信,只好扯出Jerry的大旗,哈哈哈。
crankbait
finesse |
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J**K 发帖数: 1407 | 22 钓不到10磅的鱼,我喜欢用spinning,并且不超过25 OZ最好,配上合适的杆,拿在手
里要感觉不能太重,越轻越好,便于一只手前臂或腋窝下控杆。不到10磅的小鱼,往往
需要FINESSE。当一只手控杆时,会很方便你运用FINESSE的。还有需要频繁CASTING,
特别是轻饵,SPINNING有很大的优势。估计JAY是不会用的,他只对大鱼感兴趣。
钓大鱼,我倾向于CONVENTIONAL。载线量大,感觉更坚固。由于所用的杆多半是重武器
,通常不是一只手控杆,要借助腹部或FIGHTING BELT。西海岸的人,基本不用
SPINNING,他们热衷于CONVENTIONAL REEL。东海岸的更喜欢SPINNING REEL。可能和
TARGET有关,西岸的渔民狂钓TUNA和YELLOWTAIL(不是YELLOWTAIL SNAPPER,一种长得像AJ的黄尾巴鱼,勇猛无比),需要重武器和充足的载线量。且多半是CASTING IRON,所
以爱用CONVENTIONAL REEL。有西岸的朋友请指正。
我是左手持CONVENTIONAL杆,右手持SPINNING杆。JIGGING时,两种... 阅读全帖 |
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KV 发帖数: 5728 | 23 我极少不赞同你的观点。
这是第一次听说topwater不必要用high gear ratio轮子,既然你也说淡水topwater很
多用杆子的抽拉做presentation,high gear轮子相比low gear能迅速收回每次抽拉产
生的slack,在网上随便搜topwater high gear吧,也是第一次听说,popping居然不用
high gear ratio的轮子。我本来就认为这款小轮子,最适合是popping,虽然在日本有
人也拿来present plastics。
有关megabass和daiwa的所谓特别技术合作,真实的情况是daiwa几年前已经购买了
megabass,把高端系慢慢转向megabass,这款轮子是daiwa在megabass商标下制作的第
一款高端轮。你老兄也知道finesse fishing不要高gear ratio,为什么认为这款轮子
是为淡水finesse设计。daiwa和megabass都是世界一流渔具公司,高端线上,我不认为
这两家公司(现在是一家)会盲目推出最高端产品。小日本作东西精益求精,这款轮
子这么难买,本身就和它的适用性比较窄... 阅读全帖 |
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m********n 发帖数: 2995 | 24 Stella FE或者是JDM版本的,2500FE是35in/crank = 88cm/crank; 2500HGS也是88cm/
crank,JDM没有2500HG的版本,除非是3000HG换2500spool。
KV可能没有看我前面的帖子。KV老大钓海鱼多,surf fishing里面的东西用到淡水有时
候是不一样的。已经说过Shimano 早就有了6.6/98cm/crank的轮子,但是没有用在淡水
,没有在新Stella升级的时候用,为什么?就是因为实用性的问题。
就说topwater,walk the dog,我用2米的bass rod抽一下,竿尖划过20度,你用4米的
surf rod抽一下,竿尖也划过20度,然后一起收到下一次能够再划过20度的起始位置,
用同样的轮子,谁需要转动轮子的次数多一点?当然是用surf rod的KV吧?这个高速比
在这个情况下才有用,和矶钓5.3米竿子顶鱼轮子速比越高越好是一个道理。但是在淡
水呢?小抽遛狗,竿子抽个20-30cm,你说71cm/crank和100cm/crank有区别吗?差0.1
圈,手柄多摇36度...那么88cm和100c... 阅读全帖 |
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W********s 发帖数: 1705 | 25 没说它不能上鱼,而且很抗操。However,就是Out过时的东西。Finesse用Zoom
Finesse Worm,Trick Worm,Yum Houdini Worm,Gary Yamamoto Cuttail Worm。。。
快。 |
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b******d 发帖数: 1948 | 26 前段时间鱼版闹,搞的我也没兴趣码字。本着交流的精神,今天写几句。大家一
起拍砖。
shakeyhead是我开始学习钓大嘴的第一个饵。当年老Karl推销他卖的owner shakeyhead
jig,和roboworm。我一兴起买了一试。果然上鱼,从此迷上fishing。Shakeyhead 据
说是对付高压情况的鱼,所谓高压大概就是鱼不太开口的日子。鱼活跃的时候会追着
crankbait跑,鱼不开心的时候,就不太爱动。
我一般用3/16oz的shakeyhead jig。店里有卖1/16oz的,1/8oz,1/4oz的,看水深,3/
16oz用的最多,水浅草多的地方1/8oz或者1/16oz都可以。反之深水过30feet,可能1/
4oz沉水快点。
shakeyhead一般配finesse worm。开始我用roboworm。后来多用zoom。便宜而且耐用。
roboworm是好饵。一般我两种牌子都有些。颜色选择上我是多用南瓜色,或者green。
还没研究水混水清对颜色的影响。至于pink,purple之类的颜色我是没有尝试。反正比
较大路的颜色不太出差子。
rigging还是比较简单... 阅读全帖 |
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m********n 发帖数: 2995 | 27 BC里面有专门一类是用来抛小饵的,中文因为台湾人的缘故称为"微物"。起源于日本鳟
鱼养殖池(称管理池)的小spoon抛投钓鳟,代表性的有Daiwa的presso, Shimano
Calcutta Conquest 50/51S, Cardiff DC。最近因为太平洋那边兴起的所谓Bait
Finesse的风潮,也就是用BC钓具finesse钓bass,新一代的适用小饵的BC也掀起一股浪
潮,代表性的产品是Daiwa的T3-Air和Shimano的Aldebaran BFS XG。之前的经典是
Daiwa的
Pixy。这类BC的首要特点是spool自重轻,启动、停止的惯性很小,大多浅杯设计。BC
抛投小饵,线,竿子的匹配都需要合适。
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m********n 发帖数: 2995 | 28 那天贴过一遍了,再贴一遍。
1/8对BC不算什么。BC里面有专门一类是用来抛小饵的,中文因为台湾人的缘故称为"微
物"。起源于日本鳟鱼养殖池(称管理池)的小spoon抛投钓鳟,代表性的有Daiwa的
presso, Shimano Calcutta Conquest 50/51S, Cardiff DC。最近因为太平洋那边兴
起的所谓Bait Finesse的风潮,也就是用BC钓具finesse钓bass,新一代的适用小饵的
BC也掀起一股浪 潮,代表性的产品是Daiwa的T3-Air和Shimano的Aldebaran BFS XG。
之前的经典是Daiwa的Pixy。
竿子更是很多,Shimano方面钓鳟鱼的Cardiff就有玩小饵的BC竿子,JDM系的
Baitfinesse竿子去年前年一窝蜂的各大厂牌都有,Jackall的荣耀毒药,Megabass的新
Destroyer,Evergreen的StingRay,还有Palms等稍小的厂牌都有做适合小饵的BC竿子。
比如说,
Stingray的bait range是1/16-3/16oz, Palms的Elua Molla MGC... 阅读全帖 |
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m********n 发帖数: 2995 | 29 那天贴过一遍了,再贴一遍。
1/8对BC不算什么。BC里面有专门一类是用来抛小饵的,中文因为台湾人的缘故称为"微
物"。起源于日本鳟鱼养殖池(称管理池)的小spoon抛投钓鳟,代表性的有Daiwa的
presso, Shimano Calcutta Conquest 50/51S, Cardiff DC。最近因为太平洋那边兴
起的所谓Bait Finesse的风潮,也就是用BC钓具finesse钓bass,新一代的适用小饵的
BC也掀起一股浪 潮,代表性的产品是Daiwa的T3-Air和Shimano的Aldebaran BFS XG。
之前的经典是Daiwa的Pixy。
竿子更是很多,Shimano方面钓鳟鱼的Cardiff就有玩小饵的BC竿子,JDM系的
Baitfinesse竿子去年前年一窝蜂的各大厂牌都有,Jackall的荣耀毒药,Megabass的新
Destroyer,Evergreen的StingRay,还有Palms等稍小的厂牌都有做适合小饵的BC竿子。
比如说,
Stingray的bait range是1/16-3/16oz, Palms的Elua Molla MGC... 阅读全帖 |
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m********n 发帖数: 2995 | 30 的确是可以power finesse,也可以finesse power的。
为了赌博简便,还是把jerkbait归为power类别。不许拿扫帚LOL |
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m********n 发帖数: 2995 | 31 气温27-59度,晴,水温41度,气压30.30英寸略微下降中,水位缓降。
昨天不仅钓况艰难,而且对于没有找准现在这种低水位ice out小嘴的方位耿耿于怀。
今天和钓友再赴河上,为了换标点方便,我们用了大船。
昨天说了,上游水温39度,预计下游会稍微高1-2度(http://www.mitbbs.com/mitbbs_bbssnd.php?board=Fishing&reid=31730351&ftype=0&gid=31730049)。所以今天在下游10miles的地方放
船。据同河上钓鱼的老美聊天,这几天河上钓况普遍不佳,小鱼有,大鱼不见。
一早8点半第一个到河边,第一个ramp竟然水浅到放不下船去。转道另一条河的深水
ramp,放下去,来到第一个传统标点,毕竟是community hole,已经全是船了。水清水
流急,我们都不喜欢这样的标点。上来抽jerkbait,Strike King的田纳西鲱鱼,抽了
半小时,一口,拉了一半,跑了...这个钓点钓了一会儿,船越来越多,于是转战下游
支流feeding creek,路上停了一个主河道的eddy标点,预备顺流往下钓一系列eddy... 阅读全帖 |
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crazybass (行走江湖) 于 (Wed Feb 6 13:38:44 2013, 美东) 提到:
Once go BC, never go back.
这一年来,这句话在鱼版出现频率很高。刚才又看到了
俺是持不同观点的。
俺2003开始玩spinning,2006开始玩BC,据俺有限的知识和经验打个比方:
BC如果是个钳子,spinning就像带钳子的多功能工具,上面钳子的功能也许不如单个的
钳子强大,但是钳子是干不了改锥的活的。
大家各有所爱我能理解,就像有的人开车赶路,有的人要越野,有的人就是纯玩车,啥
车好当然想法不一样。海钓的牛牛如果说once go conventional,you will be save.
我也能理解。
然则这个坛子新手众多,潜水新手也多,(虽然这帮子家伙看贴不回帖非常可恶,)
给他们一个开放的视界和多元的信息还是很必要的。
如果一个常来潜水的新手Once go BC, never go back----- never fishing anymore.
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hanyu621 (夏至日和明天) 于 (Tue Feb 5 21:43:32 2013, 美东) 提到:
去年底买了那根st.croix wide river 7'6 ML的spining杆子,一直没用过,寻思配个
轮子。我身边朋友用的淡水初级轮子,主要有这三个,各位前辈看看哪个划算? 或者有
啥更好的推荐?最好是tackle warehouse上有的。
Shimano Sahara 2500FE Spinning Reel
SH2500FE Right/Left 6.2:1 9.2 3SS + 1RB 6/200, 8/140
$79.99
这个轮子是新款的,换了颜色,似乎更帅气了。
Abu Garcia Orra S Spinning Reel
1236663 Right/Left 5.8:1 8.7 6HPCR + 1RB 8/130 $69.
95
阿布我用过他家promax bc轮子,感觉还... 阅读全帖 |
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h******1 发帖数: 1930 | 34 赞赞赞!!!! 真可惜我不能加入小分队!!
钓的精彩钓的漂亮!
我这两天也没闲着,昨天早晨在门口小湖连上7条,都是finess钓法。
下午上船冒雨钓满,3-5点都是finess天下,6点窗口开始crankbait有了3口,跑了一条。
今早再战,还是冒雨,巴蒂战绩不错,我擒获两条小队长,miss若干。最可惜是top
water咬了一口大的,我菊花一紧没忍住,直接扬竿,跑了! |
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W*******s 发帖数: 18705 | 35 收到Jerry寄来夏季疯狂的三包软饵,一包Tube,一包Finesse Rib Worm,一包小猫鱼。
Tube是短粗胖,尺寸很另类,我没用过这种体型的。
Finesse Worm是排骨设计,凡是排骨设计的软饵鱼都很喜欢这种口感,缺点是不奈操的
,中间比较细,通常一,二条鱼就断了。
小猫鱼跟W水库的非常像,Drop Shot,Jighead 都可以。这种设计类似Goby之类。
饵没有用过,如果钓到鱼再向筒子们汇报。 |
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f****c 发帖数: 88 | 36 謝謝各位意見. 我在看shimano stradic reel,我知道每一種rod支持不同的線重,請問
輪子是否也只有适用一定的線?
另外, 我這些天看了一些lure釣法介紹, 一些影片經常提到finesse, 請問這是指一類
竿還是一種釣法? 如果是竿, 哪些竿是finesse的? |
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j******u 发帖数: 41683 | 37 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
zijinfuyuan (Q_Qiu) 于 (Wed Feb 12 16:52:16 2014, 美东) 提到:
门外冰天雪地,估计一个月之内大嘴是不可能钓了,但是按耐不住不住购物欲。毕竟冬
天的无奈已经持续了很长一段时间了,花钱能稍微缓解一下心中的苦闷。
3月底要去MO打比赛,目前手里有五根杆子:一根Legend Xtreme(Spinning)四根
Casting中两根胡萝卜竿两根Kistler。其实个人还是不排斥胡萝卜竿的,超级轻,手感
也好,只不过在收线的时候Guide总会响让人心烦得很。加上胡萝卜竿的评价一直都不
是很好,所以这两根胡萝卜竿以后就负责岸钓走地鸡了,不带上船。两根Kistler更加
让我无奈。很轻,价格不菲,但是一直没有坚挺的表现让我很难过。Tip实在是软,根
根都是cranking的料,很让我头疼。
因为我很瘦,力量不大,本身就偏向finesse fishing,所以追求lightweight。但是所
有的杆子介绍上都说自己很轻,我也不能挨个儿买回来试啊。所以求推荐,轻而... 阅读全帖 |
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J**********7 发帖数: 2619 | 38 算不上super finesse.
BFS最高我觉得是扔1/8oz.
很多人扔1/16oz, 1/32oz.
如果你用上megabass IS finesse spool, 那跟BFS沾边.
BFS比spinning 高大上, 换bearing, 换spool家常便饭.
spinning上个kv的stella 1000s 完事了.
不需要自己改. |
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p*****s 发帖数: 89 | 39
LOL
LOL
1.你要写信给我,直接发去我信箱就完事了啦。搞这么多大制作,动机何在呢?又作曲
又作词,还搞视频的。你这不是就是想利用我的名气赚赚回复,把你认为的快乐建筑在
别人的不满之中嘛。
2.鱼不是你钓的,图片不是你照的。你这不是盗用是什么?而且你把别人不同时期说的
话,跟图片在特定的时候结合起来,造成你想要的效果,这就有点居心不良了。另外请
注意文明,不要说粗话谢谢。
3.跟你谈一下钓鱼技术层面的事情吧。我猜想你不懂什么叫finesse styles.你连人家
用几磅线你都不知道,就乱作文章,实属有点离谱。重草有很多种钓法的,请不要坐井
观天啦,这个问题不展开讲了,因为涉及很多不同的技术层面。很多时候当所有人都一
筹莫展的时候,我用finesse styles上鱼无数,包含很多的5lb+。钓鱼不能想当然的。
正所谓博大精深,你不懂的方法,不表示不能上鱼
不作回复啦,没你这么多空余时间,每天泡网几小时。有空的时候,我都研究钓鱼,哪
有空跟你斗嘴呢。不怕笑话,或者说我自以为是,我个人对钓鱼运动的热诚我认为绝对
超过百分之99的网友。我不相信版上除了我之外,还会有人将市面上不同品牌... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 40 用于spinning reel上的finesse鱼饵,象Ned rig, 1/4 jerkbait, finesse worm什么
的。
我现在用的是刚上市的8磅 P-line Tactical, 上个月买一送一,而且还刚拿了iCast的
奖。好处是knot strength不错,很柔软不容易缠绕,伸缩性很小很敏感,而且正常时
候也挺结实的。但不好的地方就是不耐磨,稍微不注意哪个地方有个kink,下次
hookset就有可能在那儿断掉。搞得我现在神经兮兮的,动不动就检查线有没有kink。
当然这确实是fluorocarbon本身的一个缺陷,我看了看其他的牌子,sunline sniper啊
,seaguar invizx啊什么的,网上评论都是有好有坏,各有优缺点。大家有什么推荐嘛
?实在没精力没钱一个个试过去。我大部分时间还是用于水底钓法的,所以耐磨性还是
得要好。 |
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k**********s 发帖数: 6409 | 41
鱼具在半个世纪之前就已经成熟了,你看看那个60年出产的莎士比亚杆就清楚了,现在
的鱼杆的做法和用料和它没区别。所以$10是足够做出好杆或好轮子的。绝大多数都是
在中国设计和生产的,打个美国或日本的牌子而已。这个Daiwa是越南产的,和中国产
的那些不一样,是真的日本货。相机也是越南产的比中国产的好。
我不花蠢钱。也许我父亲太能花蠢钱,到了我这里逆反,他老人家刚又买了2万块钱的
纳豆等营养品。我坚信那些卖营养品的会遭报应的,那些在中国高价卖冒牌鱼具给这些
老人的奸商也会遭报应的。
这年头,明智变成了寒酸。如果看到别人的东西比自己的好,自己想买买不起,那才叫
寒酸。节约永远是美德,与其没完没了地玩更贵的,不如把一样东西玩好玩精。有哪个
技法是这个20块的Daiwa玩不了、玩不好的,包括各种finesse或power技法?我特别反
感美国人那种power用一个杆、finesse用另一个杆的,做顿饭用十几把刀,做出来还贼
难吃。我的一个senko绑一段一尺半的线,把线头挂snap上就是texas或wacky;线头上
挂一个铅坠,钩子挂snap上,就是drop shot。来回同一个钩子同一段线... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 42 没所谓,海钓杆子照样可以用在淡水,我就有两个海钓杆子,拿来钓bass没啥问题。
line guide可能会粗一些,不像淡水杆子现在基本都是micro guide了。另外power
rating标准不太一样,M的海钓杆子往往更像是MH的淡水杆子,会更硬一些。
淡水杆子方面,个别品牌会有专门为shaky head什么的设计的finesse casting rod。
不多,但还是有的。lure rating往往都是1/8~3/8oz,甚至更低。Action也会更慢一些
,moderate甚至slow的。你要是不太在乎sensitivity的话,可以看看glass或者
composite的杆子,glass的韧性要比graphite好,所以更适合做finesse的杆子,lure
rating会更低些。glass可以做的很软,graphite的杆子做那么软就容易断了。
cabalas |
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id 发帖数: 253 | 43
RPG
Also the demo for this is out today. It's a pretty long demo, with 30-50
tutorial Plus another 45 min to dick around in the world afterward. I was
playing as pure finesse character, then I saw this cool two handed
greadsword, I may go with might/finesse in the final game. |
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s******x 发帖数: 1234 | 44 昨晚div 7,连着俩场,对手用finesse shot进了我好几个……看来要苦练finesse
shot,真bug |
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b***u 发帖数: 12010 | 45 finess shot没感觉容易进,还没见到过。12里的finess shot那叫变态。 |
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i*******8 发帖数: 7955 | 46 昨天div5打了5场比赛,来说说patch后的感受,阵型是442(2),一队是来万+奥巴(
后来改diouf)配里被罗裸奔,中场是KPB和gustavo。二队是gomez+klose配许儿勒下棋
里,中场是京多安和施瓦辛格。
1.战绩是3胜1平1负,被进2个头球,自己进2个头球。我不用finesse shot,对方
finesse shot一个挂远角的被诺伊尔飞身扑出,另外2个打在横梁上。总共进8球失3球。
2.感觉头球确实被弱化了,昨天被进的头球都是被快速反击后卫盯人不到位没有去争抢
被进的。自己进的头球一个是许儿勒左路突破以后在底线附近向后传中京多安顶进(没
有人争抢),另一个是裸奔底线突破也是底线附近按双击略向后传中给KPB顶进(有人
争抢但是离门非常近KPB抢点成功,球被守门员碰了一下还是进了)。以前京多安经常
上演的被后卫挤在身后还能强行顶入的情况昨天没有发生。传中到后门柱(literally
后门柱)对方前锋压住我后卫几乎零度角顶入的事情也没发生(出现了几次这样的机会
,要么被后卫抢到点,要么划门而过)。
3.第一场球还不习惯patch,开场不久被对方反击本泽马搞近一个头球... 阅读全帖 |
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W********u 发帖数: 110 | 47 只说h2h吧 fut太上瘾 我还没敢动
patch前:
1. bug头球太不科学 尤其是传到后点角度很小的后仰(或俯冲)头球 几乎必进 实在
太假了 和进攻防守队员的身高和头球能力几乎无关 只要你在合适时机送到后点 乔文
科也能力压丹特顶进去 另外就是后卫防头球意识太差 几乎就是静止不动 门将也是
很多情况下较长距离的头球也能缓缓飘进球门 门将没反应
2. Finesse shot 这个可能在fut里更明显 patch之前我感觉还好 肯定比fifa13里好用
很多 但远远不如12变态 记得12里只要在那几个sweet spot 无视距离几乎必进 大家就
是比拼怎么把球传到合适的点上 太没劲 现在没那么夸张 但确实导致进球太简单 加上
头球因素 很容易高比分
3. 挑传 挑传在14里比13里好用的原因 我觉得是电脑防守ai的弱化 我在13里用ws的
604阵型 D1一般一个赛季下来也丢不了1,2个球 因为我阵型里中后卫设成了defensive
是high attacking是low 但是在14里 不管你在custom formation里怎么设置 都没用
后卫为了造越位 盲目高位上抢 ... 阅读全帖 |
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W********u 发帖数: 110 | 48 只说h2h吧 fut太上瘾 我还没敢动
patch前:
1. bug头球太不科学 尤其是传到后点角度很小的后仰(或俯冲)头球 几乎必进 实在
太假了 和进攻防守队员的身高和头球能力几乎无关 只要你在合适时机送到后点 乔文
科也能力压丹特顶进去 另外就是后卫防头球意识太差 几乎就是静止不动 门将也是
很多情况下较长距离的头球也能缓缓飘进球门 门将没反应
2. Finesse shot 这个可能在fut里更明显 patch之前我感觉还好 肯定比fifa13里好用
很多 但远远不如12变态 记得12里只要在那几个sweet spot 无视距离几乎必进 大家就
是比拼怎么把球传到合适的点上 太没劲 现在没那么夸张 但确实导致进球太简单 加上
头球因素 很容易高比分
3. 挑传 挑传在14里比13里好用的原因 我觉得是电脑防守ai的弱化 我在13里用ws的
604阵型 D1一般一个赛季下来也丢不了1,2个球 因为我阵型里中后卫设成了defensive
是high attacking是low 但是在14里 不管你在custom formation里怎么设置 都没用
后卫为了造越位 盲目高位上抢 ... 阅读全帖 |
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h******y 发帖数: 3501 | 49 对,FINESSE SHOT, 实际上我是准备直接FINESSE SHOT, 结果可能手上多余动作多了
点,搞得来万背对球门再转身。当时你3个后卫围着来万我哪儿有时间观察门将啊? 还
是运气 |
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w*******y 发帖数: 60932 | 50 Walgreens.com have 15% off site wide with code SITEWIDE15
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