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发帖数: 4321 | 1 蠢。不了解filibuster就别瞎白话。
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 2 扯蛋, 金融危机明明就是民主党搞出来的,要搞什么人人有房住. Bush任期开头有war,
等到后面要改的时候被民主党filibuster.
敢情rival前面贴了那么贴,楼主一律忽视阿. |
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w**d
发帖数: 956 | 3 您别激动，没人和你扯淡，我这不是和你认真讨论呐。敢情读了rival的帖，大家都茅
塞顿开投共和党的票，那您这版主功劳可大了，什么fox news, conservative talk
shows 统统关门算了。
好吧，就算金融危机是民主党搞出来的,大家人人买房住就把美国经济给搞垮了，Bush
经济政策对头，就要挽救美国于水火之中，结果任期开头有war, 等到后面要改的时候
被民主党filibuster，壮志难酬， 反正都是丫民主党的错。
按你的观点，Romaney 将要执行和Bush一样的正确经济政策，当选后如果要挽救美国于
水火之中，就不能重蹈Bush的覆辙，首先任期开头不能有战争，其次后面要改的时候不
能被民主党filbuster。
如此的话，Romaney任期开头如果有战争（这个可能性好像极大，伊朗那根导火索还在
那呲呲响呐），后期民主党国会或参院搞filbuster，那么Romaney任期结束的时候经济
肯定就像Bush一样糟糕。
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w**d
发帖数: 956 | 4 Romany 机会是来了，布什的八年有将重演。
根据本版版主的论点，金融危机是民主党搞出来的,美国人都想买房住就把美国经济给
搞垮了，Bush
当选后经济政策对头，就要挽救美国于水火之中，结果任期开头大阿富汗还有伊拉克,
等到后面要改的时候被民主党filibuster，壮志难酬，经济就垮了。
现在民主了的利比亚把美国大使杀了，以色列总理又宣布要打伊朗，罗姆尼以前公开宣
布，如果他当选，他会坚决支持以色列，推翻Obama的中东政策。如此看来，Romaney如
果当选，任期开头肯定要在中东开打，伊朗头一个，打完了才有空收拾经济残局，那时
民主党国会或参院搞filbuster，最后Romaney任期结束的时候经济肯定就像Bush一样糟
糕。
我觉得罗姆尼还是不要选了，以免重蹈Bush的覆辙， 一世英明毁于一旦。本来行政能
力比布什强了了几条大街， 却落了个同样下场。 |
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w**d
发帖数: 956 | 5 拿我就会一个吧。
你贴的太长，我就把结论放在这。
The questions are rhetorical. Defense spending, and the Iraq War in
particular, was not the cause of our economic problems. I don't care if you
hear it from James Carville, Ron Paul, or a Nobel Prize-winning economist.
It is a lie.
在把你以前回答我关于布什和罗姆尼政策有什么不同的回帖也放在这：
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 请问Romaney和Bush的经济政策有什么不同？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Sep 11 19:23:30 2012, 美东)
扯蛋, 金融危机明明就是民主党搞出来的,要搞什么人人有房住. Bush任期开头有war,
等到后面要改的时候被民主党filibuster.
那我们来讨论一下，你之前的回帖不管是明示还是暗示，伊拉克... 阅读全帖 |
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b*******n
发帖数: 8420 | 6 奥巴马这个傻逼
当时总统参众两院都是民主党的，人气颇高，还有小布什给他垫背，多好的政治资本
四年下来屁事没干成，然后找借口说是共和党filibuster
就这样无能的蠢货本版还有不少铁杆粉丝 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 7 这个他们当然死也不承认．硬赖房产泡沫是ｂｕｓｈ的问题．
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发帖数: 1637 | 8 I can't and won't claim to be representative on left. But I really don't
remember other said it's bs.
If it would be me, I would say, it's more or less close to truth. There
are dual partie failures here.
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p***i
发帖数: 2119 | 9 你總是把事實和觀點搞混。“克林頓第二任財政盈餘”這是事實。至於是誰的功勞，這
是觀點。
除非把字典裡“中等”這個條目改掉，不然200－250k怎麼也算不上“中等”收入。
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S**C
发帖数: 2964 | 10 No he didn't. He had no-margin filibuster-proof senate for a few months in
session only, and he need to rely on 2 independents.
Just fact.
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发帖数: 4321 | 11 你问的问题比较蠢啊。
奥巴马只有四个月的SUPER MAJORITY。期间肯尼迪还病重，几个蓝狗民主党议员还反水。
Gridlock in Congress? Blame the GOP
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/21/opinion/zelizer-congress-polariza
Since 2007, the Senate Historical Office has shown, Democrats have had to
end Republican filibusters more than 360 times, a historic record.
Finally, there has been a much sharper shift to the right within the
Republican Party than there has been to the left in the Democratic Party.
Here, too, the data is rather clear.
In January, political... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 12 你脑子有问题阿. 都说了疤蟆第一第二年的时候民猪党是super majority, 共和党连
filibuster都做不到. 这个就是疤蟆自己没有做还怪gop. |
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l**w
发帖数: 865 | 13 回答楼主如下：
1。因为有最高法院得判例在，州一级议会无法完全禁止流产，但是通过不给诊所
license得方法，有的保守州已经事实上禁止>20 week流产了。
2。最高法院完全可以推翻自已以前得判例从而禁止流产。
3。任命最高法院法官需要参议院多数同意，多数派并不能为所欲为，因为少数党可以
filibuster。妥协的结果就是极端派进不去。 |
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y***r
发帖数: 16594 | 14 最近国会太差了。经常为了反对而反对，无所作为。给你看一组数据。
A recent study showed that post-2007, with Republicans in the minority,
threatened or actual filibusters have affected 70 percent of major
legislation. In the 1980s, that number was 27 percent. In the 1960s, it was
8 percent. “This level of obstruction is extremely unusual,” says Norman
Ornstein, a congressional scholar at the conservative American Enterprise
Institute. “And the core of the problem is the GOP.” |
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m****g
发帖数: 3975 | 15 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_21864171
Between 1968 and 2004 Colorado voted for the Republican presidential
candidate in every election but one. Then in 2008, Barack Obama became only
the second Democrat to win the state in 40 years. What led to this trend
reversal in Colorado? One of the primary reasons is the Latino vote. While
Obama's support has declined in some population sectors since then, it has
actually grown with Colorado Latinos. For this reason, I argue that Colorado
is not a swing s... 阅读全帖 |
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m****g
发帖数: 3975 | 16 http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_21864171
Between 1968 and 2004 Colorado voted for the Republican presidential
candidate in every election but one. Then in 2008, Barack Obama became only
the second Democrat to win the state in 40 years. What led to this trend
reversal in Colorado? One of the primary reasons is the Latino vote. While
Obama's support has declined in some population sectors since then, it has
actually grown with Colorado Latinos. For this reason, I argue that Colorado
is not a swing s... 阅读全帖 |
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y***r
发帖数: 16594 | 17 所以我说这次竞选共和党无力呀。本来应该痛击obama的record的，结果实战的时候，
一直被obama团队拿1% 说事压着打。完全就是被动迎战，能行吗?
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 18 不一定。当年是布什搞的移民改革，因为共和党参议员filibuster,没有通过。
这个早结束，民主党就少一个议题操作。 |
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w******g
发帖数: 2047 | 19 狗屁用，现在众院还在共和党手里，最起码两年内黑巴马还不会太做恶
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 20 senate rule可以在国会开始前，简单多数就可以改掉了。 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 21 07年移民改革是被GOP的参议员filibuster掉了。 |
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T*********s
发帖数: 2987 | 22 House minority leader is the most useless position. The only thing she can
do is vote no and write a report. Senate minority leader can organize
filibuster. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 23 By: Neeraj Chaudhary,
While Democrats celebrated Barack Obama's re-election on Tuesday, a more
portentous election took place in California.
Often touted as a leader in political and social trends, progressive
California swung even further to the left during last week's election.
Voters in the once golden state tightened their vice-like grip on businesses
and job-creators. Voters approved a series of propositions that make the
state a more difficult place to run a business and provide jobs.
The... 阅读全帖 |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 24 60% is a huge number. You are not in China, North Korea or a dictatorship
country, where winning less than 95% of votes is considered as a failure.
Remember that Reagen and Obama won a 52% of general votes, which is
considered as a landslide win.
60% in congress and senate is called super majority.
In a democratic society, 50.1% is supposed to be enough to pass new laws.
Then they invented filibust, which can be broken by a 60% supermajority.
When you have a 66.7%, you have a power to invalidate... 阅读全帖 |
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g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 25 This man has balls.
talk
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g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 29 Ted Cruz from Texas now. |
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g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 30 Rand Paul没有yield the floor. 现在是接受其他senators的问题，来take a break. |
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g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 31 如果Rank Paul可以坚持20+小时，说明他是real fighter. |
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c******i
发帖数: 4091 | 33 驴党的人权都是特批给强奸犯杀人犯这些犯罪寄生粪子的。
对未经定罪的公民就可以随意窃听随意用无人机轰杀。 |
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g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 34 Jerry Moran from Kansas 开始问问题。 |
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g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 35 Ron Wyden, DEM from Oregon, is asking question now. |
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c******i
发帖数: 4091 | 36 michael moore 和 bill maher 也认为无人机杀人是恐怖主义。
bill maher进一步指出侯赛因和小布什是一类人。 |
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A*****a
发帖数: 52743 | 37 这俩立场还是明确的
治其痔邪，何得车之多也？子行矣！ |
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c******i
发帖数: 4091 | 40 这个比喻题材不错，但用于此例相当牵强，并不恰当。 |
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h****z
发帖数: 1996 | 41 Unlike some historic filibusters, in which senators have read from the phone
book or recited the Declaration of Independence to kill time, Mr. Paul kept
the focus squarely on drones, using most of his time to discuss questions
of actual policy.
始终在谈论实际话题，这一点是最难得的。 |
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l*n
发帖数: 2590 | 42 我一直支持Rand Paul。作为一个偏左的共和党人，我觉得他和他爸是国会两院里比较
少有的还有一些良心的政治家。
为了讨个说法，为了拿个明确的答案是否政府可以在美国境内用无人机杀美国公民，他
在讲台上连说13个小时来filibuster CIA提名。值得尊敬。
btw，我前几个月就一直用Rand Paul 2016作为我的签名档和昵称。 |
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m********a
发帖数: 1312 | 43 别说，跟他爸爸长得真象。NPR上说他不停的论述不得在美国本土使用drone attack
citizen，引得一些旁观的两党参议员也参与讨论，并赢得支持。这才是做事情的人，
希望将来两党搞filibusters的都学习一下。 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 48 by Jammie
Rand Paul is the first Washington politician since Paul Ryan to seize an
opportunity on a controversial issue that cuts across partisan lines — in
this case, the Obama administration’s use of unmanned aircraft to target
and kill terrorists — and run with it. Like Ryan, he did it with supreme
competence.
I watched six hours of his 13-hour marathon filibuster, and the clarity,
calm and sangfroid with which he spoke was so literally exceptional it was
a sad demonstration of just h... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****g
发帖数: 21627 | 49 Rand Paul wins CPAC straw poll; Rubio close second
By NBC's Domenico Montanaro
CPAC stands with Rand.
“Torch of liberty” scion Rand Paul was the choice of the plurality of
conservatives at the Conservative Political Action Conference, as Paul won
the much-hyped straw poll with 25 percent. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio was a
close second with 23 percent.
It shouldn’t be surprising that the Kentucky senator won the straw poll.
This was not a weekend of self-reflection for conservatives. It was one of
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k****k
发帖数: 3322 | 50 不知为何，感觉Rand Paul这个人有点沽名钓誉。最近在参议院搞得一个人filibuster,
有点作秀的感觉。
当然在保守派中的效果是很好的。Straw poll里得了第一名。 |
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