b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 1 Why do White and Asian mix so badly?
It also weird how when they grow up they develop a deep hatred of Asian and
particular Asian men.
But, if you look at say half White and half Black they can become successful
. Through most half Black half White guys get a chubby White gf and have
average jobs, some can become very powerful. Lewis Hamilton is a great
example of this, Obama is another. You see these people in the media all the
time, Jessica Ennis being the face of London 2012.
But, why are Eur... 阅读全帖 |
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w*********g
发帖数: 30882 | 2 因为楼主看问题，没有注意到大的政治背景。
这个大的政治背景，就是中国崛起在改变过去500年，西方白人主导世界政治进程、局
势乃至规则的大趋势。一旦转变，新的世界秩序就是以千年计。不信的话，可以参考西
罗马帝国灭亡到文艺复兴的之间的时间间隔。
西方不愿意接受这个大趋势，妄图阻止中国人为首的亚裔的崛起，所以对亚裔格外的仇
视、不信任和丑化。Eurasian受到的阻挠，多来自这个政治背景，而不是自身能力局限
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e****o
发帖数: 3844 | 3 一衰哥挂了条围脖就来当Eurasian Collared Dove…… |
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I***i
发帖数: 14557 | 4 这个大家应该都熟悉，喜鹊（Eurasian Magpie）。既来之，则收之，我的又一新鸟 |
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d*****u
发帖数: 17243 | 5 Genetic analysis of the mummies showed that the Xiaohe people were an
admixture from populations originating from both the West and the East. The
maternal lineages of the Xiaohe people originated from both the East and the
West, whereas the paternal lineages all originated from the West.[1]
Mitochondrial DNA analysis, which reveals the maternal ancestry, showed that
the Xiaohe people carried both the East Eurasian haplogroup (C) and the
West Eurasian haplogroups (H and K). The East Eurasian line... 阅读全帖 |
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J****S
发帖数: 1591 | 6 参考
Guns, Germs, and Steel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel
Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies is a 1997
transdisciplinary nonfiction book by Jared Diamond, professor of geography
and physiology at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). In 1998,
it won the Pulitzer Prize for general non-fiction and the Aventis Prize for
Best Science Book. A documentary based on the book, and produced by the
National Geographic Society, was broadcast on PBS in July 2... 阅读全帖 |
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J****S
发帖数: 1591 | 7 参考
Guns, Germs, and Steel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel
Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies is a 1997
transdisciplinary nonfiction book by Jared Diamond, professor of geography
and physiology at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). In 1998,
it won the Pulitzer Prize for general non-fiction and the Aventis Prize for
Best Science Book. A documentary based on the book, and produced by the
National Geographic Society, was broadcast on PBS in July 2... 阅读全帖 |
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x*****7
发帖数: 4749 | 8 枪炮病菌与钢铁是一本书。下面是从wiki抄来的：
Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies is a 1997
transdisciplinary nonfiction book by Jared Diamond, professor of geography
and physiology at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). In 1998,
it won the Pulitzer Prize for general non-fiction and the Aventis Prize for
Best Science Book. A documentary based on the book, and produced by the
National Geographic Society, was broadcast on PBS in July 2005.[1]
The book attempts to explain why Eurasian civ... 阅读全帖 |
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J*****3
发帖数: 4298 | 9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel
It was also published under the title Guns, Germs and Steel: A short history
of everybody for the last 13,000 years.[2] The book attempts to explain why
Eurasian civilizations (in which he includes North Africa) have survived
and conquered others, while refuting the assumption that Eurasian hegemony
is due to any form of Eurasian intellectual, moral or inherent genetic
superiority. Diamond argues that the gaps in power and technology between
hu... 阅读全帖 |
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T***U
发帖数: 2265 | 10 看看白人和东亚女人的混血儿子,在美国生存的悲惨心理自白
你们就知道, LZ讲的种族歧视,绝对是美国这个社会的黑暗现实,立国以来,就没什么根本改变.
也给那些外F的看看, 以后的小孩,两面不是人,会面对怎样的自我
http://stuffeurasianslike.wordpress.com/
Why did my Asian Tiger mom have to marry my white dad?
June 19, 2011 by Stuff Eurasian Males Like
Was my mom clinically insane to marry a white man or was she just incredibly
callous and selfish? Perhaps she planned on having cute Eurasian daughters
who could easily mate with white dudes. Well she badly miscalculated.
Instead shes stuck with Asian-loo... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****g
发帖数: 21627 | 11 外f的儿子十分痛恨老妈。
因为老妈歧视asian male，而自己恰恰被周围的纯种白人们视为Asian male
所以外F的儿子们成了自卑+自恨+厌母的共同体。
以下是一个外F儿子的blog，代表了大多数同类的想法。
Why did my Asian Tiger mom have to marry my white dad?
Was my mom clinically insane to marry a white man or was she just incredibly
callous and selfish? Perhaps she planned on having cute Eurasian daughters
who could easily mate with white dudes. Well she badly miscalculated.
Instead shes stuck with Asian-looking sons. And yet she dissed all Asian
males by her actions. She emasculated me ... 阅读全帖 |
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b******k
发帖数: 1136 | 12 同意 Eurasian Collared-Dove
可能有Ringed Turtle-Dove(正名叫African Collared-Dove)的基因.
有些Eurasian Collared-Dove是养鸽人放生的以及它们的后代.
在养鸽的地方它们更容易和Ringed Turtle-Dove杂交.
好象Ringed Turtle-Dove野外生存力不强. 在野外成功的应该是Eurasian Collared-
Dove基因为主.
Eurasian Collared-Dove最近在美国扩展太快了(从南方扩散的加上各地放生的),
有成为下一个Starling的趋势,最后受害的还是Mourning Dove这样的native birds. |
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w*********g
发帖数: 30882 | 13 俺这的小白，才初中就被家长带着去州政府或DC lobby去了，平时在家听家长侃政治的
就更多了。
现在世界上正在发生什么有深远影响的大事，这篇亚洲时报说的不错。这种变化，应该
是老中和abc们的机会，就看能不能抓住了。
China pivot fuels Eurasian century
By Pepe Escobar
A specter is haunting Washington, an unnerving vision of a Sino-Russian
alliance wedded to an expansive symbiosis of trade and commerce across much
of the Eurasian land mass - at the expense of the United States.
And no wonder Washington is anxious. That alliance is already a done deal in
a variety of ways: through the BRICS group of eme... 阅读全帖 |
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s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 14 鱼的名字太复杂了，还是鸟的名字形象多了
燕子 swallow
鹰 hawk、eagle
鹦鹉 parrot
鹌鹑 Common Quail、
雉鸡 Common Pheasant、
小天鹅 Whistling Swan、
秃鹫 Cinereous Vulture、
金雕 Golden Eagle、
白鹭 Little Egret、
喜鹊 Black-billed Magpie、
大嘴乌鸦 Large-billed Crow、
鸿雁 Swan Goose、
大斑啄木鸟 Great Spotted Woodpecker、
大杜鹃 Eurasian Cuckoo、
绯胸鹦鹉 Red-breasted Parakeet、
丹顶鹤 Red-crowned Crane、
黑枕黄鹂 Black-naped Oriole
海鸥 Mew Gull、
大山雀 Great Tit、
云雀 Eurasian Skylark、
[树]麻雀 Eurasian Tree Sparrow |
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a***a
发帖数: 12425 | 15 那天只带了傻瓜机，却打到了新鸟种，后悔不迭啊。没办法，凑合上图，大家帮忙看看
是啥鸟儿？我看着又像又不像House Sparrow（家雀儿）。
（1）主持人卧在自己的“坑”中喊道：“大家注意、注意啦，开会了。”“按坑位来
看，今天缺席两至三鸟，要对他们提出严厉的批评、会后希望他们做出深刻的检讨。”
（2）“今天的议题是：咱仨谁最鸡蛋、最肥圆、最毛绒、最蓬松棉。”
（3）右边儿刚才蹲着看镜头的那位（见上图）好不容易由蹲位改站位，起立发言到：
“介个还用讨论？！我最、最、最、最。四最非我莫属，我四最归一呀我～～”
（4）窝在那里的扭脸儿嘟囔了句：“切，歇菜吧你，谁信哪”。会议主持鸟也由刚才
的蹲位费劲吧哈地改成了站位，觍胸叠肚、气宇轩昂地说道：“您再瞧瞧咱俩谁该当选
？”
（5）落选者郁闷地飞到了灌木丛中。
（6）灌木中的小家雀儿。
（7）看看小家雀儿的背影。
（8）剩下的俩开始和乌龟大师盘道。
House Sparrow肖像图。
2013-02-27
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House Sparrow vs. Eurasian Tr... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******n
发帖数: 10426 | 16 Hilly flanks这个core的形成是在9500BC，所以在黄河、长江谷地的文明不是Hilly
flanks的人过去的，也不是受Hilly Flanks的辐射产生的。两者其实是相对独立的。
作者：
The end of the Ice Age changed the meaning of geography. The poles remained
cold and the equator remained hot, of course, but in half a dozen places
between these extremes—what, in Chapter 2, I will call the original cores—
warmer weather combined with local geography to favor the evolution of
plants and/or animals that humans could domesticate. Domesticated plants and
animals meant more food, w... 阅读全帖 |
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t******e
发帖数: 2504 | 17 把欧亚（Eurasia)大陆看成一个地理整体， EE(Eastern Eurasian， 东欧亚人), 就是
指东亚人。
EE当然不是一直在东亚， 现代人类进入东亚，根据现在的分子人类学，最早一波大约
是在6万年前， 而现在中国的大部分Y-DNA所代表的人群， 是在大约4万前进入东亚的。
现代人类，走什么路线进入东亚，目前主流看法是南线>>北线，进入东亚前是什么模样
，又不少猜测，那就不管它了，但在进入东亚后， 在这个相对孤立的地理环境下，长
期融合演变，形成了东亚黄种人。
这个融和，有不同批次进入东亚的现代人类之间的融和，甚至也包括，和非现代人类的
其它古人类（直立人/丹尼索瓦人）的常染色体交换。 而演变， 就是为了适应环境而
产生的众多常染色体变异。我个人认为，到LGM时，东亚人的黄种人基本特征就大体成
型了。
而ANE（Ancient North Eurasian) 不是现在的欧洲白人， 现代欧洲白人是有3种人群
融合形成的: 本地的hunter-gather，中东农夫，和原始印欧人， 而原始印欧人大约含
50%的ANE成分。
我个人认为ANE是介于黄种人和白种人，和欧洲本地土著... 阅读全帖 |
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t******e
发帖数: 2504 | 18 Mal'ta Buret'人群，是贝加尔湖西的2个地名命名的，在这2地分别发现了2个男性遗骨
，经a-DNA(古DNA)分析， Y-DNA分别是R和Q，常染色体最接近现代西伯利亚一些部落，
对于美洲印第安人，现代欧洲人，中亚和南亚人的常染有重大贡献，对于东亚人也是
次要贡献。
Mal'ta Buret'人群， 就是典型的ANE（ancient north eurasian）， 古北欧亚人群。
这个a-DNA分析， 也是和其它主流观点自洽的。
一般认为，yamna人群（就是原印欧人），是西去的ANE，加上北进的部分近东人群（
CHG+Basal Eurasian)融合而成的，而yamna人群又进一步西进欧洲，再融合其它人群，
而形成现代欧洲人。
而往美洲去的ANE， 有可能，但也可能没有，融合了一小部分北上的古代东欧亚人群(
EEurasian)之后， 再东进美洲的。
而现代东亚人的主体，看来不是从ANE演变而来，因为无论是Y，还是长染，ANE在现代
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l**m
发帖数: 5113 | 19 想当倭杂又想挑拨离间中国人的快闭嘴
好好看看汉人血统在中国各地人群里面的比例以及日本人里面的汉人血统的比例
中国及东亚人血统----DNA数据(2007-03-14 12:34:02)转载
中华文明探源工程初步结果----DNA数据（注：中华文明探源工程”是继国家“九五”重点科技攻关项目——“夏商周断代工程”之后，又一项由国家支持的多学科结合、研究中国历史与古代文化的重大科研项目。）
北吴（包括苏南、上海、杭州湾两岸）人父系：汉血统65%，苗瑶族O3d血统10%，棕色
人种C血统5%，越人O1血统20%；
北吴人母系：越人50%，棕色人种5%，苗瑶族20%，汉人25%。
南吴（不包括苏南、上海、杭州湾两岸）人父系：汉血统40%，苗瑶族（主要是畲族）
O3d血统10%，棕色人种C血统10%，越人O1血统40%；
南吴人母系：越人60%，棕色人种10%，苗瑶族10%，汉人20%。
广东省广府人父系：越人O1血统40%，秦汉汉族血统10%，宋朝汉族血统50%；
广府人母系：越人血统80%，汉族血统20%。
闽南人父系：陈元光系汉族40%，其他汉族10%，
越人O1血统40%，棕色人种C... 阅读全帖 |
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w*********g
发帖数: 30882 | 20 译文在后面。
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Am I right to hate me Asian Mom, White dad?
Ok so I just took a fresman sociobiology class. And I learned that Asian
males have what would be called "beta male" characteristics. Less aggressive
and violent, communitarian based, intelligent and weak. Basically the worst
combination for sexual selection in America. Reading the darwinist blog
onestdv, a commentator even suggested that loser white males should marry
asian females, and their daughters wou... 阅读全帖 |
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a***g
发帖数: 3377 | 21 Am I right to hate me Asian Mom, White dad?
Ok so I just took a fresman sociobiology class. And I learned that Asian
males have what would be called "beta male" characteristics. Less aggressive
and violent, communitarian based, intelligent and weak. Basically the worst
combination for sexual selection in America. Reading the darwinist blog
onestdv, a commentator even suggested that loser white males should marry
asian females, and their daughters would look hot, but they should abort
male sons, ... 阅读全帖 |
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s***q
发帖数: 10585 | 22 外F和白男杂交，产下杂种，这些杂种最反感自己身上的亚洲基因
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Am I right to hate me Asian Mom, White dad?
Ok so I just took a fresman sociobiology class. And I learned that Asian
males have what would be called "beta male" characteristics. Less aggressive
and violent, communitarian based, intelligent and weak. Basically the worst
combination for sexual selection in America. Reading the darwinist blog
onestdv, a commentator even suggested that loser white males should marry
asian females, ... 阅读全帖 |
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g**1
发帖数: 10330 | 23 普京重建帝国之梦注定破灭
来源：英国《金融时报》
根据俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔?普京(Vladimir Putin)的说法，俄罗斯政府希望与俄
罗斯两个西南邻国打造“欧亚联盟(Eurasian Union)”，是一件志同道合国家间相互吸
引的“家务事”。对此其他人不是这么肯定，他们担心这位俄罗斯总统有关手足之情的
审慎说辞掩饰了一个更为险恶的真相。在欧洲许多地区，普京提出的这一协定被视为企
图复活苏联(Soviet Union)并重启冷战的举动。
如果这真的是普京的目标，人们只能猜测他的动机。作为苏联分裂者鲍里斯?叶利
钦(Boris Yeltsin)的继任者，也许他的目标是想确立自己的历史地位，成为再次统一
苏联的领导人。但对这位俄罗斯总统来说，他必须这么做还有一个更平淡无奇的理由。
由于克里姆林宫赖以维持其权力的支持力量正在减弱，普京已开始把帝国主义当做维持
俄罗斯威权政府的“顶梁柱”。
起初，将俄罗斯、哈萨克斯坦和白俄罗斯捆绑在一起的是一个关税同盟。不过那仅
仅是个开始。去年平安夜，在莫斯科的一次峰会上，这一同盟的三个创始国再... 阅读全帖 |
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e********t
发帖数: 397 | 24 Charlie Rose Talks to Glenn Beck
http://bloom.bg/2dSu3Vh
Tell me what you really believe about Trump.
I’m not sure that he is a deep thinker. I think he goes off his gut, and
his gut has served him well for what he does. He speaks in dog whistles.
Whether he knows it or not, he does. And the people around him definitely do
. I do think there are those around him who are deep thinkers. [Campaign
chief] Steve Bannon is one of them, from Breitbart. Bannon is putting
together a coalition. He knows w... 阅读全帖 |
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z****g
发帖数: 3509 | 25 在说Eurasian 人种，你又说什么藏族。藏族又不是Eurasian 。 |
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e********t
发帖数: 397 | 26 Charlie Rose Talks to Glenn Beck
http://bloom.bg/2dSu3Vh
Tell me what you really believe about Trump.
I’m not sure that he is a deep thinker. I think he goes off his gut, and
his gut has served him well for what he does. He speaks in dog whistles.
Whether he knows it or not, he does. And the people around him definitely do
. I do think there are those around him who are deep thinkers. [Campaign
chief] Steve Bannon is one of them, from Breitbart. Bannon is putting
together a coalition. He knows w... 阅读全帖 |
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e********t
发帖数: 397 | 27 Charlie Rose Talks to Glenn Beck
http://bloom.bg/2dSu3Vh
Tell me what you really believe about Trump.
I’m not sure that he is a deep thinker. I think he goes off his gut, and
his gut has served him well for what he does. He speaks in dog whistles.
Whether he knows it or not, he does. And the people around him definitely do
. I do think there are those around him who are deep thinkers. [Campaign
chief] Steve Bannon is one of them, from Breitbart. Bannon is putting
together a coalition. He knows w... 阅读全帖 |
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p***y
发帖数: 18037 | 28 新加坡有个常听到的词兒叫做Eurasian，指华人和白人生的下一代，常听到就是因为遍
地都是Eurasians。 |
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w******n
发帖数: 26 | 29 看了一下底下链接，除了25元的HUNT PERMIT，还需要下面两个：
1. Every hunter born on or after Sept. 2, 1971, must successfully complete a
hunter education training course. Proof of certification or deferral is
required. There’s a one-time exemption that costs $10 for hunters 17 and
older。
可以在这个网上上课，是我找到的最便宜的网上课程：
https://texashuntered.com/
2. Hunting without required migratory game bird stamp endorsement. Anyone 17
or older who hunts migratory game, including doves, must pay the $7
endorsement.
可以在这个网上购买一个7元的migratory g... 阅读全帖 |
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P*****J
发帖数: 1745 | 30 先声明啊，我没见过Eurasian Collared-Dove或Ringed Turtle-Dove。
我感觉就是Eurasian Collared-Dove。颜色深浅在野外会根据光线植被等因素变化，很
多时候不能作数。黑色的翼尖和黑色的尾羽外缘应该还是比较可靠的特征。 |
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P*****J
发帖数: 1745 | 31 嗯，都是House Sparrow。Eurasian Tree Sparrow虽说和House Sparrow一样是引进的
物种，但是在北美大陆上远没有House Sparrow混得好，现在只在St. Louis附近能找到
。回国大部分地区看见的家雀应该都是Treee Sparrow了，比House Sparrow小，由于有
完整的栗子壳帽子和耳朵上的黑点，要比House Sparrow可爱得多。大伙多看几眼下面
这个动画，就不会忘记Eurasian Tree Sparrow的模样了（尤其注意左边淡定哥和后排
踮脚哥）。 |
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s*****2
发帖数: 3103 | 32 第二站是Granada。去欧洲，当然是先看城堡、街景，所以动物片很少，最好的一张居
然是蜥蜴。
有几张鸟图，都是新鸟，但图片质量乏善可陈。
Eurasian Jay:
European Robin:
Eurasian Blackbird:
Wood Pigeon，跟烂大街的ferral pigeon很象，多亏我眼尖将其识别：
再贴几张风景图凑凑数，都是在Alhambra里拍的： |
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s*****2
发帖数: 3103 | 33 回程前在北京再做停留，去了一趟慕田峪长城。但是到达时已近正午，基本上没看到什
么鸟：
顺便去了一下黄花城“水长城”，即被水库淹掉一截的长城：
这是被淹掉的一段：
这时突然有一只鸳鸯从天上飞来，降落到湖里。这是我最后一只新鸟（第21只），可惜
隔很远，照片很朦胧：
山上还有许多渡鸦：
最后一天去城里逛了逛：
在天坛处再次看到普通楼燕，它们居然在祈年殿里筑巢：
还看到珠颈斑鸠（非新鸟）：
最后一张大鸟：
更多及高清请看这里：
http://www.travelerathome.com/2014_china/beijing2.html
全部鸟单（打星号为新鸟，共21只）：
* Azure-winged Magpie
Eurasian Magpie
Barn Swallow
House Sparrow
Rock Dove
* Pallas's Leaf Warbler (?)
* Little Grebe
* Black Swan
Mallard Duck
Black-crowned Night Heron
* Light-vented Bulbul
Eurasian Blackbird
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s*****2
发帖数: 3103 | 34 这个长周末收获还不错。
首先是拍到了两只新鸟：Horned Lark和Lapland Longspur（后者片质稍次；太远）：
接着去爬山，山里面的瀑布都结成冰了，真好玩：
休息一天后去坝上拍鸟：
回来的时候顺路拍到一只Eurasian Wigeon（注意，不是American Wigeon而是很罕见的
Eurasian Wigeon）：
然后，又胡乱拍了几张鸟片：
天色渐渐昏暗下去，就顺手拍了几张日落照：
然后……就没有然后了。
更多及高清请看这里：
http://www.travelerathome.com/2015_mlk/2015_mlk.html |
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s*****2
发帖数: 3103 | 35 本版最近比较沉闷，我的帖子似乎也不再带有新鲜感，不过不管它，依然按原计划一帖
帖帖完。
我们在京都的第二天去的是嵐山。可惜这天风雨交加，拍出的风景片都不尽人意。但是
拍鸟的收获还不错！
首先在河边近距离看见的是几只Eurasian Wigeon，这些我在北美见过（而且在北美是
稀鸟），但在原生带看到，依然心里高兴！
然后又见到一只Common Teal，跟北美的Green-winged Teal很象，但是是独立物种，所
以也是新鸟。
在天龍寺又斩获到新鸟一只，这是Black-faced Bunting。
另外斩获依人小鸟两名（以前见过，不算新鸟）：
后来又回到河边，又见到一只Tufted Duck，以前见过，也不是新鸟：
接下来的两只新鸟我几乎错过。首先是一只麻雀。我开始以为是House Sparrow，就没
有在意；但我看到它的头顶不象House Sparrow那样是灰的，所以就拍了几张回来再研
究，结果研究出来是Eurasian Tree Sparrow，不禁喜出望外。
又在河边看到几只鸭子，我真的以为是经过驯化的Mallard Duck 不过还是拍了几张，
结果后来发现又是新鸟！... 阅读全帖 |
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O*******d
发帖数: 20343 | 36 电影获得三项奥斯卡奖
Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing (film)
Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing is a 1955 American drama-romance film. Set
in 1949-50 Hong Kong, it tells the story of a married, but separated,
American reporter Mark Elliot (played by William Holden), who falls in love
with a Eurasian doctor Han Suyin originally from China (played by Jennifer
Jones), only to encounter prejudice from her family and from Hong Kong
society.
The movie was adapted by John Patrick from the 1952 autobiographical novel... 阅读全帖 |
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s********n
发帖数: 26222 | 37 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: smokinggun (硝烟), 信区: Military
标 题: 侯鸟可以跨亚洲美洲迁徙，可能成为携带病毒载体
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 4 11:19:49 2013, 美东)
在俄国繁殖的鸟可能到旧金山过冬，而阿拉斯加的鸟有可能飞到马来西亚。
靠，神奇啊。
These transcontinental migrants, which traveled primarily in the daytime,
flew far too high to be observed and identified visually. However, evidence
suggests that they are mostly shorebirds—such as Red Phalaropes and Long-
billed Dowitchers—along with some species of tern and skua. By flying east
to the North American mai... 阅读全帖 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 38 I wonder why the Globe report quoted the professor as saying, "Communication
was done at the speed one could walk." Wasn't there a horse?
(1) John Noble Wilford, Earlier Date Suggested for Horse Domestication. New
York Times, Mar. 6, 2009.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/06/science/06horses.html
(horse domestication around 3500 B.C., a millennium earlier than previously
thought; enabled Eurasian societies' dispersal into Europe and elsewhere,
together with spread of Indo-European languages; firs |
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s*******n
发帖数: 10426 | 39 Fig 1. Promised lands: seven regions around the world where domestication of
plants or animals may have begun independently
between 11,000 and 5000 BCE
The modern world’s great civilizations all go back to these original
episodes of domestication at the end of the Ice Age.There is no need to let
the intellectual squabbles Davies describes rob us of “the
West” as an analytical category: it is simply a geographical term,
referring to those societies that descended from the westernmost
Eurasian cor... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******n
发帖数: 10426 | 40 作者在书中是这样解释的：
The modern world’s great civilizations all go back to these original
episodes of domestication at the end of the Ice Age.There is no need to let
the intellectual squabbles Davies describes rob us of “the
West” as an analytical category: it is simply a geographical term,
referring to those societies that descended from the westernmost
Eurasian core of domestication, in the Hilly Flanks. It makes no sense to
talk about “the West” as a distinctive region before about 11,000 BCE,
when c... 阅读全帖 |
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G**8
发帖数: 1209 | 41 看到一个有趣的说法：马镫是中国人发明的，时间在三国时期或者两晋时期。
这非常奇怪！因为马的驯化非常早，大约在公元前4千年。第一批被驯化的马在
Kazakhstan，很快扩展到Eurasian Steppes。这是人类文明历史上的一件大事：立刻导
致人类第一个文明--Danube Valley civilization--在公元前3500年左右被拥有了马匹
的Aryan摧毁。人类文明因此倒退一千多年进入第一次千年“中世纪”，直到公元前2千
年，Mesopotamia和Egypt才恢复到Danube Valley civilization当年的规模。
从马的驯化到三国两晋大约是4千多年。为什么马镫这么晚才被发明？看上去不复杂啊。
原因很简单：因为马鞍的发明非常晚！最早的马鞍大约在公元前700年才出现在Assyria
，今天的Iraq。之前，所有拥有制造能力的文明人都坐马车（例如西方的chariot和东
方的“乘”）；只有没有制造能力的野蛮人才骑在光马背上到处颠簸！
马鞍出现之后很快向东西两个方向传播。向东，大约在战国时期（公元前300年之前）
传到中国。这个先进技术首先被匈奴人学习，然后大... 阅读全帖 |
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t******e
发帖数: 2504 | 42 游牧文化在Eurasian Steppe的兴起，对南方农耕文化的军事优势一直持续到冷兵器时
代终结， 马的驯化在军事上是个巨大的革命，马就是不要汽油的坦克， 高度机动还不
需要现代装甲部队的后勤，相反，定居文明的步兵需要强大后勤才能打到steppe,可人
家骑着马早跑了。
在欧洲，最新文章已经证实现在欧洲的男性DNA大都是来自yamnaya文化(位于黑海北岸
）的游牧人群，而古欧洲的史前农人几乎灭绝。 在东亚，好在北亚游牧文化兴起得较
迟，恰好在农耕帝国形成之后，农耕文明凭借体大量多才能勉强平衡和幸存。 |
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t******e
发帖数: 2504 | 43 这话说的真奇怪， 游牧人群从来就在西伯利亚， 还要怎么“占领”！
西和南西伯利亚就是eurasian steppe的一部分，史前就是游牧人群活跃的舞台，什么
Afanasevo人群, Andronovo人群，Karasuk人群， 都被认为是印欧游牧人群，更不用说
历史时期西进的突厥游牧部落和一系列突厥汗国了。
贝加尔湖东的东西伯利亚（包括现在的东北）， 更是东胡游牧人群的故地，“西伯利
亚”的名称有可能转音鲜卑的族名。 |
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m***n
发帖数: 12188 | 44 出处在一本小说里面。
“民族主义构造” 我是回复前面某人，以前似乎也和您辩过，记得当时您没有回复。
记错了请原谅。我再复述一遍：
罗马尼亚把图拉真皇帝看作自己的民族英雄。又以DACIA为祖先。图拉真对DACIA的征服
其实很残酷的，看看图拉真纪念碑就可以知道。这其实是精神分裂。
你前面说“被罗马征服很荣耀，被蛮族就不行了”，我看也是这么一个意思。其实，这
个问题很可能是民族主义迷雾，问题在于：罗马尼亚人的祖先是罗马移民和驻军（比如
Ovid那样），还是被征服又被强迫拉丁化的DACIA人。如果是前者，图拉真是民族英雄
，如果是后者，就是精神分裂。
我感觉罗马尼亚的真正祖先其实是罗马移民和驻军，因为DACIA那一块被统治时间不算
很长，后来混乱得厉害，想想南斯拉夫，同为罗马省份，为何偏偏是DACIA被征服那么
多次，还能保留原本就不很靠谱的拉丁文化。
罗马尼亚把图拉真和DACIA一把抓了，这是民族主义构造。另外，早期拉丁移民和驻军
主要分布在多瑙河沿岸和下游，而不是特兰西瓦尼亚的山区。摩尔达维亚则是在DACIA
之外。其罗马尼亚语人口和其境内的突厥语人口一样，明显是后来的移民。其斯拉夫人
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e****i
发帖数: 2152 | 45
On the 2010 census 0.9 percent of the U.S. population identified themselves
as being Native American (or Alaskan Native).[1] No consensus exists on how
many native people lived in the Americas before the arrival of Columbus, but
extensive research has been, and continues to be conducted.[2][3] An
estimated 15 to 20 million natives lived in North America prior to the
arrival of Columbus.[4]
As the direct result of infectious diseases, wars between tribes, wars with
Europeans, migration to Canada... 阅读全帖 |
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a*****4
发帖数: 717 | 46 你这里提出的一个数据也证明白人没有屠杀几百万，几千万印第安人。
The U.S. Bureau of the Census (1894) 的数据显示 在 57 years between 1789 and
1846 印第安人和美国政府的40多场战斗中， 19,000 白人死亡， 30,000 Indians 死
亡。
也就是说印第安人和美国军队打了57年， 一共只有30,000 死亡， 这也证明白人没有
屠杀几百万，几千万印第安人
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发信人: erkuai (三天不上bbs,赶得上刘少奇), 信区: History
标 题: Re: 北美大地1500到1890年，白人共屠杀印第安人7193名 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Nov 29 19:48:19 2015, 美东)
: 标 题: 北美大地1500到1890年，白人共屠杀印第安人7193名
: wiki 上的 印第安人大屠杀列表。
: 北美大地1500到1890年，白人共屠杀印第安人719... 阅读全帖 |
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e****i
发帖数: 2152 | 47
On the 2010 census 0.9 percent of the U.S. population identified themselves
as being Native American (or Alaskan Native).[1] No consensus exists on how
many native people lived in the Americas before the arrival of Columbus, but
extensive research has been, and continues to be conducted.[2][3] An
estimated 15 to 20 million natives lived in North America prior to the
arrival of Columbus.[4]
As the direct result of infectious diseases, wars between tribes, wars with
Europeans, migration to Canada... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 48 http://ihmm.ustb.edu.cn/xueshuduiwu/2011/0807/3544.html
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社会职务：国际冶金史大会执委会主席
中国科技史学会副理事长
中国考古学会理事
《中国科技史杂志》副主编
《Journal of Archaeological Science》编委
《Archaeometry》编委
简历
1984年毕业于北京钢铁学院冶金物理化学专业，获工学学士学位；1987年毕业于北京科
技大学科学技术史专业，1988年获中国科学技术大学理学硕士学位；2000年毕业于英国
剑桥大学考古系，获哲学博士学位。1994... 阅读全帖 |
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