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b*****u
发帖数: 1978
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
这误操作也太饭大喜了
Adam Schefter
Elvis Dumervil's contract not filed with NFL in time. Dumervil released, as
Denver Post released.
x******2
发帖数: 4034
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来自主题: Football版 - Dumervil and Broncos
我找到一篇文章详细的解释了现在双方可以达到的最好选择,Dumervil应该不会损失太
大,区别就是晚一年拿到钙润体的钱数。有空的话可以读读,从这文章看如果双方想达
成Deal的话,可行性还是很高的。
http://overthecap.com/a-salary-proposal-to-bring-elvis-dumervil
l*x
发帖数: 14021
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
小鸡要是够阴毒的话,就把Dumervil 签过来。拼cap room ,丹佛必败。
l*x
发帖数: 14021
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
Dumervil's agent said Broncos didn't sent them the new contract until 8 min.
before the deadline. Lots of finger pointing now.
I*1
发帖数: 5635
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来自主题: Football版 - Dumervil and Broncos
Do u guys really believe the reason he got released?
Broncos full of shit!. They wanted to release Dumervil so they can get
Dwight freeney. More money and better player.
Come to Pats. 2 yrs contract is on the way:)
d********t
发帖数: 4270
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来自主题: Football版 - Dumervil and Broncos
其实10年Dumervil签了大合同后,先是训练受伤歇了整个赛季,之后表现不是很让人满
意,裁了或许也是好事儿
H**********i
发帖数: 1261
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来自主题: Football版 - Dumervil and Broncos
这是什么 dumervil的危机公关吗?
反正经纪已经炒了 就全推到他头上不是更好 这事儿怎么说可也赖不到野驴头上
谈了一个多礼拜了 早点从了8米 不是皆大欢喜啥事没有了么
x******2
发帖数: 4034
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来自主题: Football版 - Broncos offer Elvis Dumervil contract
Dumervil不从,出去找下家了
x******2
发帖数: 4034
H**p
发帖数: 2504
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来自主题: Football版 - Dumervil to Ravens
我们乌鸦是不是捡了个小便宜?Dumervil比Kruger应该是upgrade吧?还比Kruger便宜
l*x
发帖数: 14021
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来自主题: Football版 - Dumervil to Ravens
Dumervil has 5+ years of service, but Boldin only has 1. Smart GM always
choose youth over old.
x******2
发帖数: 4034
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来自主题: Football版 - Dumervil to Ravens
这笔单子签完,Dumervil和Suggs双鬼拍门,联盟最强Pass Rush组合诞生
d*****e
发帖数: 16730
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
Denver had until 4PM ET to submit the new deal to the league office, but
they simply didn't get it in before the deadline because Dumervil didn't get
his signature on the document until 4:07PM. The two sides had agreed to
slash Dumervil's salary from $12 million to $8 million, so there is an
agreement. We tentatively expect Dumervil to re-up with the Broncos, but he'
s now open to see what else is out on the market. It's doubtful Dumervil
would find $8 million anywhere else, considering what Cli... 阅读全帖
d*****e
发帖数: 16730
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
According to spotrac.com, Dumervil's dead money hit to the salary cap is now
nearly $5 million, and that money remains whether Dumervil is on the team
or not. Theoretically, the team could give Dumervil a new deal and put most
of the money into a signing bonus, which then the Broncos could spread
across the length of the deal for cap purposes.
But another $8 million contract for this year just doesn't seem likely. It
appears that Dumervil has lost a ton of money today.
看起来必须得签个新的 ....
b*****u
发帖数: 1978
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凭印象写的,请大家补充。(Last update: 04/27/2013 11:15PM EDT)
2013 NFL 新年伊始,市场很热闹,trade 和 FA 都有不少大牌移动,好象是近
几年最热火的。
当然,有些队声音很大,也有些队默默等待。
列了个单子,看看这几个有大动作的球队的“知名”人员变化。
很明显,有些队的纸面实力大增。不过,现在的一切只是看上去很美,真正的评估
要到一年以后。那时不妨回顾一下这个名单,看看是否印证了那句:“纸上得来终
觉浅”。
==== NFC ====
九人 ----
增加:Boldin (WR), Dorsey (DL), Nnamdi Asomugha (CB)
减少:Alex Smith (QB), Goldson (S), Delanie Walker (TE), Ted Ginn Jr (WR)
海鸟 ----
增加:Harvin (WR), Avril (DE), Michael Bennett (DE), Winfield (CB)
富康 ----
增加:Steven Jackson (RB), Umenyiora (DE)
减少:Mi... 阅读全帖
l*x
发帖数: 14021
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
Dumervil 解雇他的代理了。按规定,要等5天才可以找新代理。但是原代理好像放弃了
这个要求,所以dumervil 可以马上找新代理。
这个代理的客户,其他我好像一个都不认识。不知道这个是否是他们唯一大牌。
s*****r
发帖数: 477
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Ozzie这几年的选秀非常平庸,这个就不细说了。
他最大的失误,而且是失误连连,就是球员的续约问题。
比如Flacco,上赛季之前双方谈得差不多了,6年的合同,平均17M/y,但是Ozzie非要
把其中的1M改成incentive,以passing yard做标准。Flacco不同意,结果崩了。后果
是20.1M/y。20M/y本身没有问题,因为事已至此没有选择,乌鸦不给自有别的球队给。
当然事后诸葛亮可以说如果事先续约Flacco,可能就没有之后的superbowl了
再比如说Ray Rice的合同。之前我提到了Rice的合同碰都不能碰,因为合同做得太差了。
对于每一个GM来说,RB合同的精髓就是压低guaranteed money,增加3年之后的操作空
间。因为大家都知道RB的水平是一年一个样,三年大变样。所以合同的总长度还有总额
,尤其是最后几年的非保障工资都是假的。球队什么时候可以摆脱这个合同是唯一重要
的因素。保障性工资比例越高,裁员造成的dead money就越多。
我列一下顶级RB在12年新签的合同,格式:年限/签字费/保证部分/最后2年非保障工资
这几个RB包括Ray ... 阅读全帖
g*******s
发帖数: 2828
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签来的三个大将。
Ware replaces Dumervil. Dumervil is two years younger and leading NFL this
year with 17 sacks vs. 10 for Ware, and makes $3m less.
Talib is arguably a small upgrade over DRC. But we all know his potential
health issues.
Ward JAG.
你们的核心是knighton, Von and Harris. 其他几个都是锦上添花。
l*****a
发帖数: 3630
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你这样直接把Dumervil和Ware的薪水比较有点断章取义。
因为Dumervil原合同cap hit过大,所以野驴要跟他谈restructure. 但是由于传真机事
件,不得已cut him.
Ware刚签了大合约,但今年的cap hit不高,因为反正野驴就拼这1,2年,maximize这两
年的战力最重要。
g*******s
发帖数: 2828
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签来的三个大将。
Ware replaces Dumervil. Dumervil is two years younger and leading NFL this
year with 17 sacks vs. 10 for Ware, and makes $3m less.
Talib is arguably a small upgrade over DRC. But we all know his potential
health issues.
Ward JAG.
你们的核心是knighton, Von and Harris. 其他几个都是锦上添花。
l*****a
发帖数: 3630
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你这样直接把Dumervil和Ware的薪水比较有点断章取义。
因为Dumervil原合同cap hit过大,所以野驴要跟他谈restructure. 但是由于传真机事
件,不得已cut him.
Ware刚签了大合约,但今年的cap hit不高,因为反正野驴就拼这1,2年,maximize这两
年的战力最重要。
g*******s
发帖数: 2828
B*******e
发帖数: 1009
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来自主题: Football版 - injury report
DEN
Eric Decker WR Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out
Lonie Paxton LS Not Injury Related Did Not Participate In Practice
Out
Brian Dawkins S Neck Did Not Participate In Practice Doubtful
David Bruton S Achilles Full Participation in Practice Probable
Elvis Dumervil DE Ankle Full Participation in Practice Probable
Daniel Fells TE Ankle Full Participation in Practice Probable
Von Miller LB Thumb Full Participati... 阅读全帖
H**p
发帖数: 2504
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来自主题: Football版 - Free Agency Starts in a Week
Charles Woodson, Ed Reed, Dwight Freeney, John Abraham.不过白菜家的Miller和
Dumervil比外面这些都强得多,干吗还要去捡pass rusher啊。
H**p
发帖数: 2504
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来自主题: Football版 - Free Agency Starts in a Week
Charles Woodson, Ed Reed, Dwight Freeney, John Abraham.不过白菜家的Miller和
Dumervil比外面这些都强得多,干吗还要去捡pass rusher啊。
d*****e
发帖数: 16730
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
Dumervil 据说接受了paycut 但是忘记传真了
x******2
发帖数: 4034
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
Freeney肯定没有Dumervil好用,但是也还行,主要是扣子该3-4比较伤,要不不会那么差
H****3
发帖数: 7936
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
这都行?太不professional了。这个再签回来不就好了?除非有人混水摸鱼马上把
Dumervil搞走,应该不会吧?

get
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l*x
发帖数: 14021
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
Elvis Dumervil contract snafu accelerates $3.25 million in salary-cap room.
Adam Shefter
l****e
发帖数: 1718
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
what i understand after reading the related news on NFL.com yesterday was
like, Dumervil is either going be released or take the pay cut. So if the
pay cut ( i assumed he agreed on that) document was not faxed online, then
he has to be released.
x******2
发帖数: 4034
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
Dumervil哭着说,尼玛,把我的麻泥还给我
H**********i
发帖数: 1261
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
USA Today新闻写的太搞笑了 真是打脸啊
The contract gaffe was a major blunder after a week's worth of negotiations
after the Broncos asked Dumervil to reduce his $12 million salary or risk
being released. In the end, both outcomes happened.
k***r
发帖数: 13724
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来自主题: Football版 - Denver went over cap
经纪人开始反诉野马不厚道,说正式合同文件野马传真过来就1:42了,还要"And we
had to review the language, print it, fax it to my client who was waiting by
the machine and fax it back," 本来指示Dumervil直接发给野马签了的合同,好像
没这么做,结果1:55野马就cut了。
N*****m
发帖数: 42603
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
谁抢?

as
M******k
发帖数: 27573
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
大家并肩子上啊。。。
据说丹佛多了死钱,给不了8M了。。。
d*****e
发帖数: 16730
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
今年这个不怎么值钱来着 ...我拍办公室里这会坐着俩呢
M******k
发帖数: 27573
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
挖敌人墙角啊,
Mr. Abraham & Mr. Freeney,好走不送。。。
d*****e
发帖数: 16730
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
据说
Abraham deal is done. #Patriots
P******g
发帖数: 1188
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
马上release啊
d*****e
发帖数: 16730
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
难得我拍可以说这句话
现在穷的就剩钱了...
H****3
发帖数: 7936
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
哦?
M******k
发帖数: 27573
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
唉,他们怎么就不能签点人民群众耳熟能详的运动员。。。。。
d*****e
发帖数: 16730
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
没证实呢 今天拍子忙是挺忙 不下蛋啊
M******k
发帖数: 27573
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
要是下个arrington就真把人民群众雷翻了。。。。
H**********i
发帖数: 1261
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
已经见到有牌子饭开始这个言论了
外加各种幸灾乐祸啊 让你们签歪客 让你们签歪客 囧
l*****a
发帖数: 3630
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
不是野驴不小心,是杜魔威的经纪人SB了。。。
l*x
发帖数: 14021
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
Why did everyone assume it's his agent's fault? It could be his own fault
not getting his signature to his agent on time. Anyone clarified this yet?
k*****o
发帖数: 1185
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来自主题: Football版 - 野马不小心把 Dumervil 给 drop 了
是啊,到底那耽误拉很容易知道。
M******k
发帖数: 27573
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来自主题: Football版 - 拍子没签Abraham
Dumervil maybe?
唉我这人真是迷信大牌...
b*****u
发帖数: 1978
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来自主题: Football版 - 拍子防守端买了啥人了?
Kept: Talib (CB), Arrington (CB)
Added: Adrian Wilson (S), and two no-one-knows guys from CFL
Considering: Abraham (DE), Freeney (DE), Dumervil (DE)
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