A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 1 my main goal is for my driver, since i just realized that how the ball
landed, bounced and rolled is very important. over the weekend, couple times
i can see the driver went out straight, but changed direction at the end,
which is ok, since i was trying to either draw or fade occassionally. But
what i cant accept is that the balled landed on fairway but bounced and
rolled off the fairway into the rough. 同场的高手们认为是我DRIVER的CONTACT点
有问题
so, divot is not working for driver.
currently i rely one the d |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 2 FEMALE版的DIVOT'S SWING //kaka |
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i****e
发帖数: 913 | 5 我感觉三号木还是得在tee上或lie特别好(球架在草丛上)的时候用, 也就是说可以hit
up的时候权当小driver使. 这时候本来15度的loft, 会增加到17度.
在fairway上, fairway bunker里或球埋在草里, 要想打到180yd+, 还得靠18,19度的
hybrid或五号木, 并且是hit down, 才能起球. 这时候loft会减少到16,17左右. 如果
强用三号的话, 就是13度的loft, 除非是perfect的contact, 否则有点太难起球了. 由
于是跟长铁一样的hit down, 我一般宁愿多打点divot, 也不要top（除非前面有长长的
fairway可以滚), 并且要smooth swing.
Pro们的三号木都是13度的, 即便是Tiger也是靠五号木拿Eagle, 三号木都是拿来在不
能打Driver的情况下Tee off.
归根结底长杆就是gamble, 要是前面penalty大于reward, 例如有hazard, 要求carry,
有树枝, blind shot, 稳健的打法是layup.
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h****8
发帖数: 56 | 6 .....
Here we go:
callippe reserve pleasanton
2:50pm Saturday (twilight rate),
4 players:
jgouston
voyiger
hzhu88
divot |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 7 got your call at 2:47pm when i hurried to install cart and put cell phone
into bag. divot has your number so he called.
let's play this course again sometime later...
it is very nice course, very good grass except for few small patches... so i
guess it makes ball striking at fairway easier...
walking is a bit exasuting, feet are still sour even i wear running shoes
without spikes... |
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i****e
发帖数: 913 | 8
果岭上也不会滚太多的，和那种high/soft的轨迹落下来后不同。
势的，只是我从pro randy里学到的很重要的一样东西。
是不是常说的Check-up? 就是说在球的轨道并不高飘的情况下, 靠backspin, 让球落地
后会立马"煞"住, 但又不会让球滚回来. 不知道这种球跟pro们玩得那种foot-long
backspin有啥不同? 是不是得靠更steep的击球角度, 把divot全部留在球的前面, 用软
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 9 booked 2 4-some on Oct 10, Saturday 2:16pm & 2:24pm
Check in group name "Yi"
2:16pm tee time: ET, Aff, voyiger, dietcigs
2:24pm tee time: ixcafe, hzhu, new2000,A0
please arive 10 min early to first tee, only 2 groups before us for twilight, we might be able to tee off 2:10pm or so
tentative rotate method: switch ET to second group after front 9, without rotating other players.
*divot in waiting list if anybody cancel or play with ET on SUnday or weekday
1306 Happy Valley Rd Pleasanton, CA 9456 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 10 in the order of reply/confirm
here is the list of golfers
2:16pm tee time: ET, Aff, voyiger, dietcigs
2:24pm tee time: ixcafe, hzhu, new2000,A0
going to be dark
*divot in waiting list if anybody cancel or play with ET on SUnday or
weekday
or see if we could do a 5-some
a simple skeme is to rotate 2 players once every 6 holes
this ensure everyone play with ET for at least 6 holes.
hole # group 1 group 2
1 ET Aff voyiger dietcigs ixcafe hzhu n |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 11 Check in group name "Yi"
2:16pm tee time: ET, Aff, voyiger, dietcigs
2:24pm tee time: ixcafe, hzhu, new2000,A0
please arive 10 min early to first tee, only 2 groups before us for twilight
, we might be able to tee off 2:10pm or so
tentative rotate method: start 5-some first group, 3-some second group, after front nine, ET rotate to the second group, turning to two 4-some. the 3-some second group won't complain the 5-some ahead because are we are 自己人
*divot in waiting list if anybody cancel or |
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a**********0
发帖数: 58 | 12 Sorry guys, most likely I can't make it this weekend.
Divot, can you join them? |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 13 now the tee time is (i will check with proshop one more time, may move tee time even earlier, so check this post before Saturday):
2pm to first tee in front of club house
2:12pm tee time: Aff, voyiger, dietcigs,ixcafe
2:20pm tee time: hzhu, new2000,divot,_?__
A0 you wanna get back in?
1-2pm range & practice green and warm up (optional), Callippe has all grass turf driving range
even ET is gone, i guess we can still learn each other at range warm up
难得凑起这么多人赶超统一 ride cart. the course is a bit hi |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 14 othat is a good idea.
most likely, i will play a weekday round with you and skip the big event,
let divot take my place.
we will see once you got here.
人的
验。 |
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 15 纯金杆头内嵌蓝宝石，金丝楠木或者沉香檀木的杆身，眼镜王蛇皮的grip， 每根再配一
个巴黎什么什么区某个拐角处每礼拜只开两个下午的六百多年历史的client-list-only
的皮匠铺做的鳄鱼皮套，divot tool是路易十六最喜欢用的一把纯银兽首镂空雕花叉子
，ball marker是王莽时期的一刀平五千头上挖了个半圆形的槽，背面很随意地贴了一张
“全国山河一片红”邮票。。。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 16 yes it is 2 for 1, which you can split $65 with your buddy during play. ie,
you can split with me if we go togather. or if divot buy another, he can
split with you when you two go togather.
it is different when you play alone, mentally. and it is the main part of
game during course play. so the coupon is worth, since you would play alone
anyway, at least not at prime time.
i played another round at poppy ridge on friday. my buddy booked on golfnow
with $20 with cart, started at 2:20pm. asked me |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 17 还有MIKE BREED提到的RANGE PRACTICE 方法
don't hit several range balls in a row with the same club.
instead,
#1 ball, driver
#2 mid iron
#3 ball, driver
#4, 3wood
#5 short iron
each ball go over your preshot routine
imagine you are play a course, and alwasy pick some target
还有 you can place some tee around range ball, to check you hit the ball
right in the middle of club face, and have right divot.... to ingrain the
sweet spot hitting swing feelings... |
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u******m
发帖数: 307 | 18 Are you hitting the ball very high ? You may try to flip or scoop the ball
at impact which adding loft. You need to hit down and take a divot. |
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w******8
发帖数: 977 | 19 Everyone has his own unique problems. So you may have to experiment a lot
and think about the reason that caused your problem. As for your problem,
maybe your swing plain is too steep, try more flat swing plain, watch Ben
Hogan's swing on youtube. Steep swing plain will cause over the top, I had
similar problem before, I even made divot with driver.
Here's a drill, tuck a towel under both arms and try swing without letting
the towels fall, it may feel awkward in the beginning, but it will encour |
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m********h
发帖数: 405 | 20 刀背杆击球是不是需要divot？ 我感觉不挖地的话 球飞行弧度太高了？？ |
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u******m
发帖数: 307 | 21 1. Don't buy a putter until you've had a chance to throw it.
2. When your shot has to carry over a water hazard, you can either hit one
more club or two more balls.
3. If you're afraid a full shot might reach the green while the foursome
ahead of you is still putting out, you have two options: you can immediately
shank a lay-up or you can wait until the green is clear and top a ball
halfway there.
4. Everyone replaces his or her divot after a perfect approach shot.
5. A golf match is a test of y... 阅读全帖 |
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a***x
发帖数: 398 | 22 如果是铁杆，一个可能是你站立的重心偏后，在球的后面。或手和球的相对的位置靠后
。找找你swing的最低点在哪？看看是先打到地面还是先打到球，最低点和divot一定要
在球的前面才行。如果不是重心问题， 你看看杆头是否后仰过多，增加了loft， put
too much back spin to the ball. 希望有帮助。 |
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N**E
发帖数: 596 | 23 8号竿现在145-150左右。但都是低飞的,divot 的那种。 |
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N**E
发帖数: 596 | 24 试过,球飞的会高些。打divot就是太伤手了。Texas土地硬，痛死我了。 |
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g******e
发帖数: 760 | 25 我也看了rory的swing，简直是完美。没有divot,sweep on the grass perfectly. |
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M*****e
发帖数: 568 | 26
divot的话，会把marker也铲掉的把。 |
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u***L
发帖数: 234 | 27 I watched on TV: two balls at next to each other, the official let one
player to mark the ball with a tee, and then moved the tee sidewards for a
club length. After the other player finished the play, he basically put the
ball back, next to the divot. |
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t***w
发帖数: 165 | 28 Grass on a sandy ground is best, of course, grass on hard clay like at some
Houston driving range is not that good.
Never hit without tee on hard mat.
Newer soft mat is acceptable, but nothing beats real grass.
You can see your divots on mat. |
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M*****e
发帖数: 568 | 29
typical sequence: shift, rotate, swing
这个我被教练强调过无数次了，但是能不能做到是另外一回事。呵呵
只有移动了重心你才能在正确setup的前提下，打出正确的divot。
当然打golf，错上加错仍然有可能打出好球。 |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 30 这对球杆来说，是不太可能有V 的。
球杆本身长短不一样，woods长点你觉得象U，比较起来，短铁杆就象V了
have the iron head traveling in "V" shape, the key is to put the weight on
my left foot and squeeze my left foot into the ground as soon as I start my
down swing.
sweep the ground. To do that, I gradually move my weight center from right
foot to left foot during down swing. |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 31 Thanks. I understand that the "V" or "U" are all imaginary and a little
exaggerate.
Meanwhile, I keep hearing people talking about "hitting down" and I was
wondering how I could "hit down".
have the iron head traveling in "V" shape, the key is to put the weight on
my left foot and squeeze my left foot into the ground as soon as I start my
down swing.
sweep the ground. To do that, I gradually move my weight center from right
foot to left foot during down swing. |
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w*******7
发帖数: 12 | 32 刚接触高尔夫，需要买一套球杆。因为身高比较高，而且是左撇子，所以每次去2手店
都碰壁。
正好有个不熟的同事说，可以把他的卖给我，具体信息如下：
Irons
Taylormade Burner Tour (3 – PW)
Wedges
Titlest Vokey Spin Milled 56° SW
Titlest Vokey Spin Milled 60° LW
Woods
Callaway Diablo Edge 10° Driver
Callaway Diablo Big Bertha 3 Wood
SystemQ Afterburner 5 Wood
Putter
Nike T100
Misc
TaylorMade Golf Bag with Cover
2 Sleeves Bridgestone E7+ Golf Balls
1 USGA Ball Marker/Divot Repairer
Various Tees
要价：$750美金。请问这个价位合理吗？初学，所以不懂，先谢谢各位了。 |
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b*******2
发帖数: 412 | 33 optishot, see its ads everyday.
Honestly, you can go to the golf shop, such as golf smith, golf galaxy and
do a swing analysis there to find some measures of your swing.
But the best way to improve golf swing might be to practice on the range,
and analyze the divot, fight pattern and swing video. |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 34 regarding the erratic iron shots, I am trying to fix it by learning to take
divots. See my other posts on this issue. I am still in the process.
on |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 35 Totally agree, it is just personal preference.
Most of my other friends are gaming Cleveland. It is almost the offical
wedges for the group. Don't know why I dont find it is appealling.
Vokey was my first wedge, i like it right away. The first one was 56 SM.
then I bought another from Vokey, 52. One of my other buddies recommended me
Scratch. then, I bought 58 Scratch, and bend it to 57, trade my 56 SM to "
divot". Hope he still likes it.
Now in my bag, Vokey 52 SM (Spin Milled), Vokey 56 TVD
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b*******2
发帖数: 412 | 36 You had a good swing!
Can you give us more information about your normal divot? Plus your ball
position at your stance? (The club position is blocked by the table...)
Your grip looks like a little bit strong, how about try a more neutral or
weak grip to see whether that helps cure the hook or not. Oh, one more thing
, if you can post a side view of your swing, it will help a lot to see the
swing plane, which might contributes to the hook.
Over 90% golfers have slice headaches, you are in the adv... 阅读全帖 |
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a***x
发帖数: 398 | 37 改球的位置可以，但不是正解，只是补偿，因为球的位置还会影响球路的高低。最好调
整swing和重心移动，保证swing最低点在球的前面，打出球后的divot。（只对铁杆适
用）。 |
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a***x
发帖数: 398 | 38 哥们可以参考youtube上很多关于铁杆打出divot的练习方法。比如shawn clement的一
些视频。wood 和铁杆不太一样，就是要向上打的，swing最低点一定要在球后面。 |
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c**********e
发帖数: 276 | 39 I am susceptible to the trigger finger problem. I have to make certain
gripping adjustments. Here are the ways I used. In case anyone of you has
the same issue, I hope some of the information can be helpful.
(1) Use 10-finger gripping method (baseball grip method);
(2) For left hand, use palm to grip the club (yes, the club is gripped in
my left hand palm area!!) & standard right hand gripping;
(3) Use a mechanic glove with palm padding, or an anti-vibration glove
for my left hand;
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j******e
发帖数: 1424 | 40 练球都是下班后，一直在只有mat的场子练球。最近找到一个有灯光的草地的driving
range。打了几个礼拜差别巨大。主要是在上场和driving range之间的差距小了很多，
在场上可以更容易地recall练习时的感觉。 还有通过divot可以更容易发现自己swing
的问题。 打草的难度大不少，可是提高确实快 后悔没早早觉悟，走了弯路。 |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 41 我最近也有铁杆push的问题.
引起这个的swing动作是: downswing 时右臂更靠近身体. 胯带肩保持手臂被动 (这点
与楼主一样).可以明显看到divot 的方向变成从里向外.
inside out swing path 应该是好事. 不过push如何纠正呢? |
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c**********e
发帖数: 276 | 42 咳， 打8字头的， 也养活做 yard work的人吧...........天天琢磨破80，希望在眼前
， 不远有不近.......... 有限的一点时间都想用到球场， 后院杂草疯长啊.........
.有时我提着铁杆， 对着杂草练习如何切出理想的 divot。 后院邻居， 太太全职在家
，自己一周三场球， 后院杂草比我还多。我 为了挤出一点时间打球， 买了一个
riding mower, 每次， 我都挂在最高档， 一阵狂奔.......... |
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u*********r
发帖数: 2735 | 43 check divot, most likely you tend to hit fat. |
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b*******2
发帖数: 412 | 44 同感。
练习场练的是击球的基本功，如果练习场上DRIVER，铁杆等都打的左右不定的话，下场
加上心理作用，一定会疲于找球，挫折感油生的。不过练习上练习是有方法和技巧的，
不是一个球接一个球的乱打，比如：
别用垫子，球放在草上打；
每一杆都有TARGET，注意方向和距离控制；
follow the same routine for every shot，想着就像在场上打，打出去没有补救了，
没机会再打第二第三个，这样给自己压力；
给自己一点难度，比如把球放在divot里面打；
练习draw or fade， high and low shot, 场上DRIVER没打好的时候，有时就靠这些技
巧来SAVE了；
很多练习场也有果岭和沙坑。
下场打，练的是course management and mental game，通俗点就是策略和心态；而不
是练习和纠正动作，现场纠正动作，越纠越差。下场前的练习球，只是为了热身而已，
或者微微调整一下动作。如果觉得下场时才发现挥杆问题，多半是因为练习场上练的时
候，没有认真对待每一个球，没有把它想成是场上的第一或第二杆，于是打坏一个，再
来几个，只记住... 阅读全帖 |
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q***q
发帖数: 3356 | 45 我怀疑站方有人是球友。。。
你用铁杆打直的时候球在什么位置？我是紧贴两脚中线偏左，所以理论上杆子切到地面
的时候（最低点）正好挖到球。这样打不出divot，但是现在这么挥习惯了。 |
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t*******t
发帖数: 1656 | 46 我觉得下杆的最低点在上杆的最低点前方.因为weight shift.这也就是为什么divot 在
球前方的原因。
我的情形，杆越短，球位越往后。因为swing arc半径小了。这两个最低点的距离也就
短了。
具体而言，56 度60度，球位在两脚中间。5，6铁球位齐左脚跟。woods 再靠前.
driver 球位差不多齐左脚大脚趾。 |
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m****8
发帖数: 327 | 47 前阵和一个年轻的pro聊天，我问他的学生中有多少人能比较好地保持power lag。他说
90%。我不太相信。据我的平时对球友的录像分析，业余球手中能保持lag的纯属凤毛麟
角。请问各位球友是否能保持住lag，能做到的有什么有效的训练方法。
lag靠肉眼不容易鉴定，比较靠谱的还是靠slow motion camera。有target side divot
也不能保证有lag。
我自己做得不太稳定，下杆速度慢一点时候可以在录像中看到保持得还可以。 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 48 保持杆头泄后，打过几天球的人，都会。至于power lag的程度就很难说了。初学者，
还是以整体动作正确，练习打直来稳定动作的重复性为好。
divot |
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b*******2
发帖数: 412 | 49 power lag 是个伪命题，就像几年前谈的X FACTOR 一样。很多人（包括一些教练）都
强调要刻意hold the lag，这根本不是刻意能保持住的。
lag 来自于身体转动，同时带动相对放松的手臂和手腕，这样加上球杆的自身重量，看
起来好像在HOLD 一个90度夹角一样，但其实并不是手腕刻意做的事情。
如果刻意hold lag，手臂和手腕的肌肉会很紧张，反而加剧了early release的问题，
即使HOLD 住了，在impact的时候，由于身体转动不够，右手会容易 shut the face，
这样很容易HOOK。
divot |
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b*******2
发帖数: 412 | 50 the faster you turn the body, the more lag you will create, and more power
will be delivered at the impact
divot |
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