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f*******l 发帖数: 8811 | 2 你能不能重读一下你的发言,至少能不能理清楚最最基本最最简单的逻辑关系?
“无法忍受PBS所以去看Cspan”,这个“言下之意”怎么就是 “cspan 有多
boring”乐?
cspan 全都是政治节目,boring是公认的。和你的莫名其妙的言下之意没有任何联
系。
恰恰相反,这个我认为是在讽刺 PBS and QVC。PBS决不是你所说的 boring,而是
joe wong 在笑话里面说的 sensationalism and demagoguery。joe wong 讨厌这
种节目,所以宁愿去看 cspan 催眠。 |
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p**********d 发帖数: 7918 | 3 哈哈,你的post還真的好笑。經過你的解釋,果然Joe Wong的包袱不好笑了很多。 |
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f*******l 发帖数: 8811 | 4 again, 这个明确表达了 joe wong 的政治立场。
你去找点 PBS 关于中国的录像带看看,大多数都是反华的。而且的确说它有点 se
nsationlism 一点也不为过。 |
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f*******l 发帖数: 8811 | 5 前面就说过你了,莫名其妙,逻辑混乱,语无伦次。
你觉得好不好笑,用 joe wong 的竞选口号来讲, who care? |
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p**********d 发帖数: 7918 | 6 讓傻瓜覺得好笑的笑話不是好笑話,
讓傻瓜覺得莫名其妙的笑話才是好笑話。 |
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f*******l 发帖数: 8811 | 7 理屈词穷就开始纯人身攻击了?
你是在讲笑话呢?你可是真有意思。我看你本身就是个笑话。除此之外,你也没有
什么笑话了。 |
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p**********d 发帖数: 7918 | 8 “最可笑的是Rush Babe的信徒們還覺得Joe跟他們是一路的。
他們沒有意識到的是,Joe Wong有幽默感。”
難道你非要把下一句講出來你才明白?
Rush Babe的信徒以為Joe是跟他們一路的。
但是Joe有幽默感。
所以呢? |
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f*******l 发帖数: 8811 | 9 的确。很多人都是这样。
所以说,讲笑话最重要的是要有共鸣。 |
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f*******l 发帖数: 8811 | 10 所以什么啊? 你真是越来越逗乐。
你不就是想说你虚构出来的所谓的 rush babe 没有幽默感吗?
你这个和你前面所说的有什么逻辑联系吗?你这个难道不就是平白无故的虚构出来
一个人群,然后有莫名奇妙的给他们扣上一个不懂幽默的帽子?所以我说你莫名其
妙逻辑混乱有什么不对吗?
只不过你不仅是莫名其妙逻辑混乱,你的理解能力和表达能力都很有问题。 |
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s**********g 发帖数: 314 | 11 agree,楼主很多没看懂。
还有6,joe wong说他是通过实例(炸药)知道光比声音快,(laugh)
声音和石头一样慢(听到炸药声音,碎石子也飞到身边了) |
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s*******n 发帖数: 452 | 12 哪里可以找到整个全文txt? 有不少词没听清楚。 |
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p**********d 发帖数: 7918 | 14 我不是說Rush Babe沒有幽默感,而是說他的信徒們沒有幽默感。
那個關於C-SPAN的笑話被你解釋得慘不忍睹,這就是明證啊。
還有你那句“他一開始選Obama-Biden,後來發現被騙後悔了”的話,真是priceless。 |
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f*******l 发帖数: 8811 | 15 理会精神。还不是一样的道理。你在这里莫名其妙的虚构出了 rush babe 的信徒
们这样一个群体,然后又毫无逻辑的给他们扣上了一顶没有幽默感的大帽子。所以
我说你莫名其妙毫无逻辑。
关于我对于 PBS和 Cspan 的解释,完全合情合理。而且我有理由相信这就是 joe
wong 这个笑话的本意。
再看看你的同党语无伦次逻辑混乱的胡编乱造,可能这就是你追求的所谓的幽默感吧。
那我还真缺乏你们这种大无畏的幽默精神。
关于后悔了那段话,我前面也早就有了解释。你的同党也屁话没有了。 |
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C*********e 发帖数: 68 | 16 agree
movie. cause you have absolutely no clue. |
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f*******l 发帖数: 8811 | 19 嘿嘿。。说我错的离谱,那把您高明的正确的有谱的见解直接贴上来就完了。也让
大家开开眼界。在这里说这么多没有任何意义,除了人身攻击还是人身攻击的屁话
干嘛?
我从来就不认为我会是一贯正确。我来这里也是参考大家的意见。至于有些人呢,
总是摆出一付什么都懂不可一世的伪专家嘴脸,动不动就要教训别人。理屈词穷了
吧,就开始赤裸裸的人身攻击。
至于你那个不知所谓的 group,我没有兴趣加入。我的观点明确表达过了,我也没有
问题需要问他。如果你有疑问呢,你不妨直接给他发邮件,然后把他的回复经过他
同意后贴出来给大家看看。
嘿嘿。。。
cspan |
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f*******l 发帖数: 8811 | 20 说这帮摆出一付不可一世丑恶嘴脸的伪专家们 unbelievable,那简直都是抬举他
们了。他们也不是什么有趣无趣的问题。他们就是一群zhuang13犯。
zhuangbiliy装出习惯, zhuang出职业病来了。 |
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d*****l 发帖数: 8441 | 21 你听力可能有些问题,添油加醋了。
根本没有“Again”,是"am"的重读。
是“rocks”而不是"quacks"
“better essentialized socialist economy” 还是 “better than centralized
socialist economy"? 应当是“Why is tofu better than centralized socialist
economy?"
什么毛时代啦、异质啦,你就捏把。
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s******8 发帖数: 4192 | 23 关于c-span,我觉得他是想说其他电视台没有c-span有内容(可能是指公正的内容)。
但是c-span又太闷,容易让人睡觉。
至于政治立场,我觉得他肯定是反对民主党的。所以很多笑话我笑了,下面很多人都没
笑,因为下面肯定大多数是民主党的支持者。Biden有时候就是傻笑,或者是苦笑。我
觉得他很有胆量,至少对于我们这种在中国长大的,当着有权势的人的面嘲笑人,心底
里总有点发虚,因为秋后算账的事情在中国是不少见的。
这个表演实际上和中国根本关系不大,最多涉及一点点中国文化。 |
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k***n 发帖数: 11247 | 24 love PBS, very educational and informative |
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E****l 发帖数: 895 | 25 唉,本来挺有意思一帖,现在被搞得一点意思都没。
我一直觉得,当一个人急于辩解的时候,是不是说明TA自己也觉得对方的话有些道理,
自己可能是错的,可又不明白自己到底错在哪里;在方向不明的时候,先把对方压死,
也就铲除了自己的疑惑。其实何必呢。 |
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m**********1 发帖数: 361 | 26 for 3 he is joking about an incident when a couple get into ehitehouse
without invitation. |
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s***s 发帖数: 7178 | 27 说实话
分析来分析去
要分析的没分析出来
倒把自己分析个透彻 |
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s******d 发帖数: 901 | 29 瞎分析什么呀,人家就是单纯的觉得好笑才笑的,哪有时间想那么多,还毛泽东都出来
了,这个要是换个别的国家的人来讲同样的内容一样好笑。i'm totally ruined by my
childhood"这样的话在这样的场合下讲出来本身就很好笑,和他的background一点关
系都没有。至于为什么好笑,对于没有幽默感的人是没法子解释清楚的。 |
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f********e 发帖数: 207 | 31 第一个,应该是他的last name以前一直是huang,只是最近在改称wong,所以美国人看
到huang,自然是说huu
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r****2 发帖数: 205 | 34 我怎么觉得说who的时候就仿佛提到了tao哥,不知道美国人知不知道天朝老总姓hu啊
后面joe发表竞选口号的时候,我觉得那个who cares 就特别Hu cares |
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G*****s 发帖数: 664 | 35 “6.When I was in Elementary School,as part of the curriculum, I had to work
in the rice paddy right next to a quarry where they used explosives to bring
quacks, and that is where I learned light travels faster than sound,(laugh
)which is almost as slow as a flying rock(laugh).
中国观众并不觉得有什么好笑的,喜剧效果在于迎合了美国人对“教育科技落后”中国
的想象。在这一“想象的”“奇怪的”异质文明中,课程的一部分竟然是农场劳动,而
物理定律不是通过课堂教育,而是通过农场劳动领悟的。”
这里哪里有物理定律不是通过课堂教育,而是通过农场劳动领悟的意思啊。。。
他发现这个规律和农场劳动一点关系都没有。。。
你里面有些地方听错了,不是a quarry where they used explosives to bring |
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q******j 发帖数: 577 | 36 1. The audience immediately recognized he was using the classic joke about
confusing names. There was a famous political youtube video about "Bush,
Rice, Hu, Yassir, Kofi." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU_aw3SCUV8 which is very funny and well-known (someone even pointed out that it was based on yet another political joke about president Reagan so such joke is a traditional political joke which the audience at such dinner would easily recognize).
The new ingredient Joe added to this joke is |
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q******j 发帖数: 577 | 38 4. I think he said "Who wouldn't?" Your explanation may have some merit. But I
think the real 笑点 is the cartoon most Americans have seen in their childhood "Peter Pan - the child who wouldn't grow up." (There is a long distance busline using "Peter Pan" and there are many video games about him)
"Grow-up" and "Who wouldn't" created the comedic effect that the Americans could appreciate but not most Chinese. That's why people did not laugh after he said he was born in China and pause but lau |
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q******j 发帖数: 577 | 39 5. I think you are too academic on this one and the Mao era connection is
stretching. "Childhood memories are totally ruined by my childhood" is
itself funny because the Americans usually say "Internet ruined my Childhood memories" "Hollywood movies ruined my Childhood memories" "stop ruining my Childhood memories" or "my childhood is ruined by ... "
"Childhood memories ruined by childhood" sounds strange to normal American
people who would find it funny, and yet does make some sense -- bec |
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q******j 发帖数: 577 | 40 6. I think it is "used explosives to break rocks." and I think most of the
people here did not get this joke (because I have seen anyone pointing out the
real 笑点 yet).
You need some American background to understand it.
笑点 isn't 课程的一部分竟然是农场劳动 or 物理定律不是通过课堂教育,而是通过
农场劳动领悟的. Actually the audience did not laugh when Joe explained his
childhood curriculum.
They laughed after he said "(through such phenomenon) I learned light
travels faster than sound." Why? Because there is a classic American jo |
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q******j 发帖数: 577 | 41 7. Again, you missed the 笑点.
After the long 铺垫 of his father trying to cheer him up, Joe said his
father's trick was asking "why is tofu better than centralized socialist
economy?" such a 无厘头 question. Tofu and centralized socialist economy
have nothing common to be compared. The expectation of a "cheering up" joke
collided with the 无厘头 question. That is what caused the first laugh.
The second laugh was due to Joe's funny performance.
The third laugh was because of 画龙点睛 "because I said so." |
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e****g 发帖数: 2080 | 42 不会吧,你还真以为他母亲姓胡吗?
他很多笑话就是文字上的游戏,没那么深的内涵吧。比方说第四个,就是撩动一下你的
神经而已,who这个字在跟他母亲联系起来后,就成为全篇的笑点了。如果听个笑话还
要费那么多心思,那就是说笑话的失败。 |
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e****g 发帖数: 2080 | 43 5. In my childhood memories,I was totally ruined by my childhood.
要是这样的话就不好笑了,其实他说的是 my childhood memories are totally
ruined by my childhood
6.When I was in Elementary School,as part of the curriculum, I had to work
in the rice paddy right next to a quarry where they used explosives to bring
quacks,
我听着也就是where they used explosives to break rocks,不知道bring quack你是
怎么想出来的。
7. why is tofu better essentialized socialist economy?"(laugh) so five
minutes
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l**y 发帖数: 17 | 44 这可是非典型性分析,经典学院派版本。
估计Joe在创作时都没有上升到这个层次。
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t***n 发帖数: 1607 | 45 haha,support
movie. cause you have absolutely no clue. |
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b**w 发帖数: 59 | 49 Only confident people can laugh at themselves; that is why they are funny.
Joe's jokes are witty and very funny. Not all people understand them the
first time. As a chinese, I am proud of him. |
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