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w***t
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来自主题: Military版 - 随时更新-乌克兰最新消息
Armed men seize two airports in Ukraine's Crimea, Russia denies involvement
http://news.yahoo.com/armed-standoff-pro-russian-region-raises-
w***t
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来自主题: Military版 - 随时更新-乌克兰最新消息
Obama warns Russia of 'costs' for any Ukraine intervention
President Obama bluntly warned Russia Friday that it will face international
condemnation as well as unspecified "costs" for any military intervention
in neighboring Ukraine.
"We are now deeply concerned by reports of military movements taken by the
Russian Federation inside of Ukraine," Obama said in a hastily arranged
public statement from the White House briefing room.
"Just days after the world came to Russia for the Olympic games, i... 阅读全帖
c*****r
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Sky News Newsdesk ✔ @SkyNewsBreak
Special representative to Crimea: thirteen Russian aircraft land at base
near Sevastopol with 150 people on each
d****o
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来自主题: Military版 - EU开始摆出隔岸观火的姿态了
"For the European Commission the situation in Crimea requires first and
foremost a political solution," Commission spokesman Olivier Bailly tells
the BBC. "We call for a dialogue between the different parts of the
Ukrainian people, the different political parties. We call for everybody to
respect one another. That holds even more true in the current situation."
这话听起来一股土交部味儿
接下来看美帝怎么通过NATO来push这帮亲密战友
l*****7
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President Obama's full statement below:
Over the last several days, the United States has been responding to events
as they unfold in Ukraine. Throughout this crisis, we have been very clear
about one fundamental principle: The Ukrainian people deserve the
opportunity to determine their own future. Together with our European allies
, we have urged an end to the violence and encouraged Ukrainians to pursue a
course in which they stabilize their country, forge a broad-based
government and move to ... 阅读全帖
i***a
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来自主题: Military版 - 封锁机场原来是为了运兵
Ukraine’s national telecommunications operator "Ukrtelecom" has lost the
ability to provide connection between the Crimean peninsula and the rest of
Ukraine because of damage to fiber optic cable, Interfax-Ukraine reports.
"As a result of actions of unknown people, the company’s fiber optic cables
were damaged. As a consequence, telephone and internet services on the
Crimea peninsula have almost completely been suspended,” the company’s
statement says.
i***a
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来自主题: Military版 - 乌克兰军队概况
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26394846
Men calling themselves "local militia" have set up checkpoints on roads
connecting Crimea to the rest of Ukraine
进入克里米亚是个很狭窄的区域,亲俄的民兵先把路封起来了。
k********k
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http://www.cityam.com/article/1393526432/forget-invasion-putin-
Forget invasion: Putin is just four steps from victory in Ukraine
byJohn Hulsman
February 27, 2014, 8:28pm
AS ITS currency collapses, protests flare up in Crimea, and Russia flexes
its muscles on the doorstep, those in the West claiming triumph in Ukraine
should remember the story of King Pyrrhus of Epirus. In 279 BC, this scourge
of the Romans managed to best them at the Battle of Asculum, but at
tremendous cost. Pyrrhus, aware tha... 阅读全帖
n*********7
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rt
b*****d
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President Obama on Saturday spoke with Vladimir Putin, hours after the
Russian president defied Obama’s warning to stay out of Ukraine.
In a readout of the call published Saturday, the Kremlin said Putin cited “
a real threat to the lives and health of Russian citizens” currently in
Ukraine. Putin, the Kremlin said, drew Obama’s attention “to the
provocative and criminal actions on the part of ultranationalists who are in
fact being supported by the current authorities in Kiev.”
“Vladimir Putin ... 阅读全帖
b*****d
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“Vladimir Putin stressed that in case of any further spread of violence to
Eastern Ukraine and Crimea, Russia retains the right to protect its
interests and the Russian-speaking population of those areas,” the Kremlin
said.
n*********7
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l****r
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s*****r
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本来就是俄罗斯的地盘
z**********e
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这类似阿尔萨斯和洛林人欢迎法军啊。
k*******r
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阿尔萨斯和洛林难道不是德语区?
p*r
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这比伊拉克欢迎王师的戏码真实多了
n*******r
发帖数: 2010
g**g
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没啥惊异的
我就稍微白日梦一下, 哪天王师 占领果敢,当地也会是敲锣打鼓 张灯结彩的
m********8
发帖数: 7463
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: majia88888 (马佳佳), 信区: USANews
标 题: 奥巴马总捅真的狠高端大气上档次
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 1 18:46:09 2014, 美东)
下面只是事实,事实胜于雄辩哦。猥琐男请不要骂人
古语有云,所谓良将本色,在于”泰山崩于前而色不改,麋鹿兴于左而目不瞬“
乌克兰闹的沸反盈天,总统根本不为所动,依礼部之预案,驾临 Student Film
Festival跟 DNC,根本不屑参加national security meeting on Ukraine,并电诏恶螺
丝藩王普京,曰”虽极北苦寒之地,举甲兵以犯王土,亦属忤逆,待天兵至,悔之晚矣
" 云云。。
U.S. President Barack Obama told Russian President Vladimir Putin that
Russia had committed a clear violation of Ukrainian sovereignty by sending
forces into Crim... 阅读全帖
w*********g
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来自主题: Military版 - 乌克兰危机 美制俄工具少
乌克兰危机 美制俄工具少 zt
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俄罗斯军队1日不费吹灰之力进占战略要地克里米亚半岛(Crimea),乌克兰新政府警告
可能爆发战争,下令军队高度警戒并向北大西洋公约组织(NATO)求援。 图为俄罗斯武
装部队封锁乌克兰边境港都塞凡堡(Sevastopol)基地。
中央社报道,乌克兰危机因俄罗斯出兵扩大,美国总统欧巴马1日与俄罗斯总统蒲亭90
分钟的电话会谈,并未缓解危机,美俄原本「有毒」的关系更形恶化,但美国能用的工
具却很少。
克林顿政府时期任驻乌克兰大使的皮佛(Steve Pifer)说,对俄罗斯而言,在乎失去乌
克兰强度要远大于西方希望保有它。
欧巴马刚在2月28日傍晚严厉警告俄罗斯不要出兵干预乌克兰,俄罗斯国会随即通过出
兵乌克兰,白宫虽然没有立即公开做出回应,但国安团队密集开会,1日下午白宫发出
正式新闻稿,指欧巴马与蒲亭讲了90分钟电话,告诉... 阅读全帖
s**a
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来自主题: Military版 - 乌克兰分裂的可能性?
>80%
crimea, or east uraine?
a*********4
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鹅毛先耸了,都洗洗睡了吧
Moscow (AFP) - The Russian Black Sea fleet based in Crimea denied Monday
there were plans to storm Ukrainian military positions on the peninsula,
calling reports of an ultimatum "nonsense," Interfax said.
d******r
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被想到被欧盟搞得自己后院失火,中国大可以学习鹅毛,
态度超然,但随时添把火,再给老毛子高价卖点东西,
低价收购其资源,土工好日子过啊。
不过这事我老分析,双方各退一步,毛子在crimea攫取更大利益,
但是允许乌克兰领土名义上的完整,北约部的部署任何武器。
毕竟另外一只巨龙在美俄背后, 双方想为二毛子打架让土共占便宜
傻逼么 lol
w********s
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Ukraine defense ministry: Russian fleet issues ultimatum to Ukraine forces
in Crimea to surrender by 10pm ET or face 'storm' - Interfax
d****o
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Russia's Black Sea Fleet has told Ukrainian forces in Crimea to surrender by
5 a.m. (0300 GMT) on Tuesday or face a military assault, Interfax news
agency quoted a source in the Ukrainian Defence Ministry as saying.
The ultimatum, Interfax said, was issued by Alexander Vitko, the fleet's
commander.
要打了吗?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/106724
x****o
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来自主题: Military版 - 03:00 GMT to surrender or face an assault
BBC: The Russian military has given Ukrainian forces in Crimea until 03:00
GMT to surrender or face an assault, Ukrainian defence sources have said.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26424738#TWEET1060896
d****o
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Media reports about an alleged Russian ultimatum made to the Ukrainian armed
forces in Crimea are “total nonsense,” a spokesman for the Russian
Defense Ministry said.
http://rt.com/news/russia-dismiss-ultimatum-ukraine-644/
b********n
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O8指责普京:“俄罗斯侵犯乌克兰主权和领土完整"
President Obama expressed his deep concern over Russia’s clear violation of
Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity, which is a breach of
international law, including Russia’s obligations under the UN Charter, and
of its 1997 military basing agreement with Ukraine, and which is
inconsistent with the 1994 Budapest Memorandum and the Helsinki Final Act.
The United States condemns Russia’s military intervention into Ukrainian
territory.
普京的回答: "人权高于主权"
Putin most im... 阅读全帖
W*******n
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来自主题: Military版 - Suggestions On Ukraine Crisis
Suggestions On Ukraine Crisis
Limin Wang
03/03/2014
It is a big deal on the Ukraine Crisis. Russia needs to handle very well to
keep Ukraine at least friendly toward Russia. Since I have been struggling
for a better life and for a better social system to live in, and Russia had
helped China to set up a Maoist communist government, I would like to make
some suggestions to help Russia.
1. Ukrainian President Yanukovych has to step forward, and declares the new
government illegal, and delivers comm... 阅读全帖
l*****7
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来自主题: Military版 - John McCain 也成了软蛋了?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/04/john-mccain-ukraine_n_
McCain Attacks Obama Over What He Wrote About Russia In College
Posted: 03/04/2014 4:58 pm EST Updated: 03/04/2014 5:59 pm EST
WASHINGTON -- Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Tuesday drew from a new source
in arguing that President Barack Obama has been too 'soft' on Russia: An
article Obama wrote back when he was in college.
In a blistering speech on the Senate floor, McCain blamed Obama in part for
Russian President Vladimir Putin's a... 阅读全帖
m********5
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美国的目的就是要让乌克兰乱
没乱自然不高兴!
中国的投资到哪儿, 哪儿就得乱
h***f
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anderson cooper就是长得像白岩松的那个家伙吧?
p*********n
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哪里都要讲政治正确,不然,要丢饭碗地
f***y
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http://world.time.com/2014/03/04/ukraine-crimea-belbek-russia/
His men would be unarmed, and leading their column would be a flagman with a
Soviet relic — the banner of the 62nd Fighter Aviation Regiment that had
been based in Belbek during World War II. Any soldier born in the Soviet
Union would have heard the stories of its legendary pilots, the ones who had
taken on the Nazi Luftwaffe in 1941 then went on to guard the skies above
the Yalta Conference in 1945. Mamchur reckoned that no soldier ... 阅读全帖
k********k
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普京讲话全文录像英文口译版
2014年三月四日
FULL VIDEO:
Putin speaks Ukraine, Yanukovich, Maidan, Crimea
Published on Mar 4, 2014
Russia will not go to war with the people of Ukraine, but will use its
troops to protect citizens, if radicals with clout in Kiev now try to use
violence against Ukrainian civilians, particularly ethnic Russians, Putin
told the media - READ MOREhttp://on.rt.com/pmgkkh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiKF8JN1qmk
l*****7
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McCain说: 奥巴马在大学时不是一个好学生
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/04/john-mccain-ukraine_n_
McCain Attacks Obama Over What He Wrote About Russia In College
Posted: 03/04/2014 4:58 pm EST Updated: 03/04/2014 5:59 pm EST
WASHINGTON -- Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Tuesday drew from a new source
in arguing that President Barack Obama has been too 'soft' on Russia: An
article Obama wrote back when he was in college.
In a blistering speech on the Senate floor, McCain blamed Obama in part for
Russian Pres... 阅读全帖
l*****7
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希拉里·克林顿说
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/05/hillary-clinton-vladim
Hillary Clinton Compares Putin's Ukraine Strategy To Adolf Hitler's In Nazi
Germany: Report
The Huffington Post | by Shadee Ashtari
Posted: 03/05/2014 10:02 am EST Updated: 03/05/2014 11:59 am EST
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton compared Russian President
Vladimir Putin’s recent activities in Ukraine to Adolf Hitler’s “
population transfers” in the late 1930s during a closed Boys & Girls Club
of Long Beach fundr... 阅读全帖
S*****s
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putin这个时候能认怂吗?道理很简单,美帝敢开枪吗?
奥黑也就是装装样子。为了一个crimea给毛子干上也不是米油的风格
米油很清楚目前最大的威胁是鳖共。万一让鳖共从中渔利,是得不偿失的
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 真要打局部战争
Almost any conflict fought as force on force, conventional warfare, between
NATO and Russia, will be a modernized version of EarthOrbit-Air-Land-Sea-
UnderSea-Battle with networked information centric warfare mixed in.
The key strategic objective would be for return to antebellum_status_quo.
Return to how it was before conflict. That is before Putin invaded Crimea.
It would vital for both sides, to preserve a way for NATO and Russian
leaders/diplomats to communicate with each other, so that host... 阅读全帖
l*****7
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来自主题: Military版 - 杜鲁门总统只摔了两个蛋蛋
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/06/world/europe/debate-over-who-
Debate Over Who, in U.S., Is to Blame for Ukraine
By PETER BAKERMARCH 5, 2014
WASHINGTON — In Moscow, especially in the not-so-good old days, the
question almost always asked is kto vinovat: “Who is to blame?” The
American capital now finds itself engaged in that very Russian exercise ever
since President Vladimir V. Putin’s troops entered Ukraine.
Many on the right maintain that Moscow’s land grab is President Obama’s
fault for pur... 阅读全帖
G**Y
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他们要了Crimea是放弃其他的乌克兰呢?
还是希望其他地区效仿呢?(西乌克兰肯定不想加入俄罗斯吧)
G*****h
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那人家现在 vote for separate Crimea from Ukraine
也正常啊,一贯风格嘛
o****y
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来自主题: Military版 - 乌克兰警方逮捕75名亲俄成员
If Putin wants more lands from Ukraine, it does not matter whether they open
fire or not. Ukrainean did not open fire, Crimea will be back to Russia.
o****y
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来自主题: Military版 - 乌克兰警方逮捕75名亲俄成员
Do you really believe that?
On the other hand, Ukrainean promised protection of Russia intererts, do you
think Putin will believe that?
Putin just wanted everyone put the chips on the table, nobody needs protend
anyting. Russia wants Crimea, eatern and southern Ukraine. that the least
what Russia wants. Other part of Ukraine, you can join the EU.
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - 二毛子这事太考验胖子智慧了
China understands that Russua sending troops in Crimea.
But let Crimean vote to join to Russia, China definitely does not agree.
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - 科索沃vs乌克兰
I don't think US will strongly against Crimea to join Russia.
China on the other hand, probably has a strong opinion against that idea.
s**a
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当中有民族问题,而且crimea历史上本来就是俄罗斯的(属于俄罗斯200-300年直到19
52年)
b*****d
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Obama: Crimea vote would violate international law
c***c
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Referendum in Scotland = OK
Mob takes power in Kiev = OK
Taking over Iraq = OK
Taking over Afghanistan = OK
Election in Kiev where Yanakovich wins with observers saying it was fair =
Not OK
Referendum in Crimea = Not OK
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