d******n 发帖数: 12850 | 1 DW, HARRIS, J WALL, RUBIO, CALDERON 连赢的这5个pg都不弱,有些表现都比林好,
只不过lin笑到最后 |
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n*****y 发帖数: 237 | 3 celtics: Rondo
Mavericks: Delonte West, Kid
Nets: DW, Farmar
Rockets: Lowry, Dragic
Grizzlies: Conley
76er: Holiday, Louis Williams
Hornets: Eric Gordon, Jarrett Jack
Raptors: ose Calderon
Spurs: Tony Parker
Bulls: Rose
Nuggets: Ty Lawson, Andre Miller
Cavaliers: Irving, Sessions
Timberwolves: Rubio,Ridnour, Barea
Pistons: Brandon Knight, Stuckey
Trail Blazer: Felton
Pacers: Collison
Thunders: Westbrook
Bucks: Jennings
Jazz: Harris
Hawks: Kirk Hinrich
Warriors: Curry
Bobcats: Augustine, Kemba Wa... 阅读全帖 |
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m******k 发帖数: 2390 | 5 200 pounds is average weight. (the last two oppoents' PG all weights more
than 200 pounds, J.Calderon 205 pounds?, Evans 210 pounds?)
but 200 pounders who can drive and dish are rare. |
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r******g 发帖数: 234 | 6 他在对John Wall的时候吃了个亏,本来是John Wall撞人的,判了小林阻挡。他下巴上
的胶布就是那一次的。后面他就有点收着打了,对calderon,甚至对国王的后卫,都贴
得不紧。
通常裁判对新人不会客气,现在都linsanity了,可能要好些了。 |
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L*******r 发帖数: 5448 | 7 Lin的身高和Derrick Rose,Deron Williams,Westbrook,Nash这些现役顶级PG一样
都是6'3'',这算是劣势?
6'3''的优秀PG现在还有Calderon, Curry, Harris, Irving,等等 |
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l*****9 发帖数: 9501 | 8 纽约进攻太依赖他拿球了。他在场上对整个球队的提升作用是无可置疑的。
Everyone complains about his TOs but you have to factor in how much he has
the ball in his hands.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2012_advanced_s
If you look at his TOV% - the amount of turnovers he commits over 100
possessions - you'll see that he has a lower TOV% (21.6) than Kidd (29.6),
Nash (24.6) and Rubio (22.3) and slightly higher than Rondo (20.9). Curry
is at 16.7%, Ellis is at 13.4%.
I haven't watched all of his games, but yesterday, ... 阅读全帖 |
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m******k 发帖数: 2390 | 9 agreed.
今天其实跟上次被J.Calderon爆一个道理。 |
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m******k 发帖数: 2390 | 10 screen的时候太容易掉人。
上次对J. Calderon的时候就这样了。 |
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i*********r 发帖数: 5101 | 11 1, CP3, DW, Nash
The real point guard,
1.5, DRose, Westbrook, Rondo, Parker,
Point guard, but a little toward combo guard,
2, Irving, Lin, Lowry, Curry
Solid, with great potentials, all around game
2.5, Jwall, Jennings, DCollison, Calderon, Rubio, Nelson, Lawson, Felton,
DHarris
Solid, potentials, shortcomings. |
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e********3 发帖数: 18578 | 12 他一直都很霸气的,最主要的优点就是爆发力强+一对一防守好,对猛龙把也算联盟一
流的控卫Calderon防的球都拿不住,连掏了两次,印象非常深刻,林书豪要是有他的防
守能力,综合实力能上一个档次。 |
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t******o 发帖数: 5314 | 13 赛季 对林
dwilliams 22.4 29.5
dharris 9.6 9
jwall 17.6 29
dfisher 5.4 6
rubio 10.6 12
calderon 10.6 25
evans 17.4 19
vasquez 8.1 15
kidd 5.4 11.5
teague 12.3 18
chalmers 10.6 8
irving 18.6 22
rondo 14.1 18
parker 19.2 32
比赛中林未必和这些人一直对位防守,上场时间也参差不齐,另外还没有考虑命中率,
但是大体上看,林现在还没有能力锁定防守。 |
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i*********r 发帖数: 5101 | 14 这几天,和小林子打过得屁股纷纷倒下, 有一趋势呀。Dwill, Rubio, Calderon...
我估计下一个是狼多。 |
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H*******o 发帖数: 504 | 16 pg里面除掉你提的,jennings, augustin, westbrook, holiday, teague, fisher,
kidd, deron, calderon, irving, stuckey, wall, ridnour, jack, lowry, lawson,
harris, felton, paul, curry, conley都谁吃了,列一下吧 |
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N**Q 发帖数: 66 | 17 东邪童子功 Jeremy Lin
西狂快传手 Chris Paul
南僧一休哥 Tony Parker
北侠制假哥 Derrick Rose
中顽童鲁傻二 Westbrook
Nash Kidd Williams Rondo 携 Wall Dragic Lowry Irving Jennings Sessions Rubio
Calderon Conley Lawson Curry 等表示淡定。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb - 中文网站浏览器 |
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C******s 发帖数: 81 | 18 东邪童子功 Jeremy Lin (marginal PG)
西狂快传手 Chris Paul (elite PG)
南僧一休哥 Tony Parker (elite PG)
北侠制假哥 Derrick Rose (elite PG)
中顽童鲁傻二 Westbrook (elite PG)
Nash (elite PG) Kidd (elite PG) Williams (elite PG) Rondo (elite PG
) 携 Wall (elite PG) Dragic (elite PG) Lowry (elite PG) Irving (
elite PG) Jennings (elite PG) Sessions (elite PG) Rubio (elite PG)
Calderon (elite PG) Conley(elite PG) Lawson (elite PG) Curry (elite
PG) 等表示淡定。
SAS 表示强烈的不同意。 |
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s***i 发帖数: 1363 | 20 1-5 vs 0-9 ,他说Calderon吧。 |
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A*****a 发帖数: 52743 | 24 这场7-11, 18分8板
Lucas萎了,2-9 |
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l****l 发帖数: 3394 | 25 saw this on insidehoops. Here's my list.
Atlanta Hawks - Josh Smith
Boston Celtics - Rajon Rondo
Charlotte Bobcats - None
Chicago Bulls - Jokim Noah
Cleveland Cavaliers - Kyrie Irving
Dallas Mavericks - Jason Terry
Denver Nuggets - Danilo Gallinari
Detroit Pistons - None
Golden State Warriors - David Lee
Houston Rockets - Goran Dragic
Indiana Pacers - Paul George
LA Clippers - Chris Paul
LA Lakers - Kobe Bryant
Memphis Grizzlies - Rudy Gay
Miami Heat - None
Milwaukee Bucks - Ersan Ilyasova
Minn... 阅读全帖 |
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d***8 发帖数: 2039 | 26 Rubio,Rose,D.Williams,Jose Calderon,人挡杀人,佛挡杀佛。人和佛都灭了,最后自
搏。 |
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o**4 发帖数: 35028 | 27 纳什>小林=如表(这两人考虑到潜力所以排名前挪了)>dragic>calderon>beno>
Hinrich>ridnour>Blake
看这个ID的排名,潜力都考虑进去了,看样子潜力=实力了 |
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Q*****e 发帖数: 593 | 28 http://espn.go.com/nba/players/_/position/pg
好像就没几个。当然还要比较有一定上场时间的。大家数数。
纳什还是老大,湖人的布雷克是倒数第一,至少性价比是。猛龙卡尔德隆,狼队如表,
里德诺。鹰队辛里奇。雄鹿Beno。火箭dragic
纳什>小林=如表(这两人考虑到潜力所以排名前挪了)>dragic>calderon>beno>
Hinrich>ridnour>Blake |
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a*******d 发帖数: 3041 | 29 No. 1: Michael Jordan
Michael Jordan is widely regarded as the best player in NBA history, and his
competitiveness was rivaled by none during his time in the league.
So given that his competitive urges led him to engage in some epic trash-
talking battles, and his skills and talent allowed him to more than back up
his talk, while rising up to answer the jawing of others, Jordan easily
takes home the title as the league's all-time best trash talker.
No. 2: Kevin Garnett
Kevin Garnett is well-know... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****g 发帖数: 12253 | 30 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
eightmile (8mile) 于 (Tue Mar 13 10:27:05 2012, 美东) 提到:
个人认为现役nba没用过steroid的有如下
guard: rose, rondo, lin, nash, parker, blake, jason terry+ not many(lest
than 40%)
forward: AS, turky, gasol, dirk + not many (lest than 15%)
center: noah, chandler, + not many (lest than 20%)
我喜欢看这些人打球,动作很natural,
大部分大块的肌肉+粗厚的身板基本不可能通过力量训练达到
以上纯属个人看法,充满猜测,如果有错请谅解
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doushirourou (肉肉,都是肉肉) 于 (Tue Mar 13 10:57:36 2012, 美东) 提到:
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j********1 发帖数: 628 | 31 Toronto will have to: either renounce Bayless, or amnesty Calderon, or
rescind Fields |
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m*****g 发帖数: 12253 | 32 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
GoRockets (火箭加油) 于 (Tue Feb 21 23:54:00 2012, 美东) 提到:
大家轻排
第一档次巨星级:Rose, CP3, DW
这个基本上没有太多争议,也是现在美国国家队的控卫群,三个人各有千秋,Rose和DW都是到分区冠军赛止步,CP3因为队伍较弱止步在第二轮,个人认为Rose因为得了MVP所以稍稍占优,他的综合身体素质也是这三人中最好的
第1.5档次亮星级:Westbrook, Parker,Nash
这里面Westbrook还处在上升阶段,而且队伍好,有可能晋升到第一档次,Nash能在这个年纪还有超高水平已经非常牛逼, Parker是今年马刺还很强的最主要原因
第二档次星星级 Rondo, Wall, Jennings,Curry
他们都有些过人之处,但是都有缺陷,Rondo如果没有伤病可能上一档次
第2.5档次潜星级: Irving, Lin,Rubio
Irving出乎我的意料打得相当不错,如果专心加刻苦有希望很快进入到第二档次,Lin是完全的意料之外,... 阅读全帖 |
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y*****s 发帖数: 1047 | 33 Spain men beat China 97-81 in Olympic basketball
Updated: July 29, 2012, 2:21 PM ET
Associated Press
LONDON -- Pau Gasol had 21 points and 11 rebounds to lead Spain to a 97-81
victory over China Sunday in the Olympic men's basketball opener for both
teams Sunday.
Spain got off to a slow start and held just a two-point lead at the end of
the first quarter, 19-17. However, they went on a 7-0 run in the second
quarter to give themselves a cushion and were never seriously challenged the
rest of the ... 阅读全帖 |
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t******r 发帖数: 8600 | 34 2012-13 ASSISTS LEADERS : Assists Per Game
Displaying results 1-50 of 409 found
Results: 1-50 51-100 101-150 151-200 201-250 251-300 301-350 351-
400 401-409 Next »
PLAYER NAME, TEAM NAME GP MPG AST APG TO TOPG AP48M AST/TO
1
Rajon Rondo , BOS 10 38.1 131 13.1 36 3.6 16.5 3.64
2
Chris Paul , LAC 9 32.5 92 10.2 18 2.0 15.1 5.1
3
Greivis Vasquez , NOH 8 32.1 71 8.9 23 2.9 13.3 3.09
4 ... 阅读全帖 |
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t******r 发帖数: 8600 | 35 2012-13 ASSISTS LEADERS : Assists Per Game
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400 401-409 Next »
PLAYER NAME, TEAM NAME GP MPG AST APG TO TOPG
AP48M AST/TO
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Rajon Rondo , BOS
10 38.1 131 13.1 36 3.6 16.5 3.64
2
Chris Paul , LAC
9 32.5 92 10.2 18 2.0 15.1 5.11
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Greivis Vasquez , NOH
8 32.1 ... 阅读全帖 |
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e*******e 发帖数: 9616 | 36 目前pg里rating拍26。论工资可能比26高。
这只是部分赛季而已,更主要的是火箭现在没有figure out一个拿得出手的打法,这个
才是迫在眉睫需要解决的。
26. Jeremy Lin, HOU 56.15 58.08 -1.93 18 33.1 10.1 4.3
6.2 37.8 81.6
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/playerrankings/regularseason/PG
Point Guards
Player Rating Last
Week Change GP MPG PPG RPG APG FG % FT %
1. Russell Westbrook, OKC 72.69 71.83 +0.86 20 35.9 21.5
4.7 8.6 42.3 76.5
2. Stephen Curry, GS 70.37 66.79 +3.58 ... 阅读全帖 |
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A****a 发帖数: 2497 | 37 来自主题: Basketball版 - 助攻失误比 PLAYER NAME, TEAM NAME GP MPG AST APG TO TOPG AP48M
AST/TO
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Chris Paul , LAC
57 33.2 550 9.6 127 2.2 14.0 4.33
2
Jose Calderon , DET-TOR
67 29.3 486 7.3 116 1.7 11.9 4.19
3
A.J. Price , WAS
46 22.5 182 4.0 55 1.2 8.5 3.31
4
Kirk Hinrich , CHI
45 28.8 241 5.4 74 1.6 8.9 3.26
5
Jason Kidd , NYK
62 27.2 212 3.4 67 1.1 6.0 ... 阅读全帖 |
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m*******a 发帖数: 4507 | 38 Dwight Howard
Chris Paul
Andrew Bynum
Al Jefferson
Manu Ginobili
Andre Iguodala
Josh Smith
Kevin Martin
Jose Calderon
Corey Maggette
David West
Paul Millsap
Devin Harris
Mo Williams
Lamar Odom
Chris Kaman
Beno Udrih
DeSagana Diop
Samuel Dalembert
J.J. Redick
Luke Walton
Nick Young
Jarrett Jack
Zaza Pachulia
Jason Maxiell
Daniel Gibson
Wesley Johnson
Dorell Wright
Chauncey Billups
Anthony Morrow
J.J. Hickson
Mike Dunleavy
Johan Petro
D.J. Augustin
Tony Allen
Will Bynum
Corey Brewer
Josh McRoberts... 阅读全帖 |
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m*******a 发帖数: 4507 | 39 Pistons still have Stuckey and Knight on the roster for the 13-14 season if
they sign and trade Calderon. |
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H**U 发帖数: 1814 | 41 库班这两年在玩啥?
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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a*****n 发帖数: 13835 | 42 这个签约算正常吧,Mayo3年2400万去了雄鹿。 |
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m*******a 发帖数: 4507 | 44 Mavs still need a center and a bunch of roster fillers to start the season.
Can't imagine how many games they will win with Dalembert (if they sign him)
, Dirk, Marion, Carter, and Calderon as starters. |
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e********3 发帖数: 18578 | 45 http://www.thedreamshake.com/2014/1/3/5249000/houston-rockets-j
Did you know Jeremy Lin leads the league in many offensive metrics while
being near last in others? We try to lift the veil clouding the opinions of
the Rockets' point guard as we go searching for Jeremy Lin.
There are two things that I really dislike, one is writing introductions for
anything and the other is irrational reactions to NBA players. Obviously
this isn't going to be a whole post about why I don't like writing
introducti... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****s 发帖数: 5610 | 46 所有教练都是保守的,因为TO非常明显,输球就会怪TO,比如第4场。没有哪个教练愿
意因为这个原因被fire,所以很难,当时linsanity时候,就有人说他TO太多。
一般PG被评估是看Assist/TO ratio, 及格线的是2,优秀的是3以上。Lin在火箭第一年
是6.1/2.9,刚合格,可惜在防守上不配Harden,今年就没让他多打PG,
他今年assist/TO是4.1/2.5, 低于2. 他今年这个数据对下一个合同是killer,因为球
队怎么justify他能首发PG?当然你可以说他根本打的位置就是SG替补,不是PG,这个
对Lin更糟糕,因为他6'3",没法打首发SG。
明年是lin的合同年,他就是2个选择,并且球权不在手里,怎么对自己下个合同利益最
大,有2个选择:
1. 要么维持4的assist,减少TO到1.8一场,这样assist/TO可以到2以上。他想平均6的
assist太难了,因为没有球权。如果他assist/TO能到2以上,估计有点希望转队到另一
个做首发。
2. 要么彪分,别搞什么assist了,有机会就投,只要命中率在40%以上,得分拿到18场
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d*****s 发帖数: 5610 | 47 所有教练都是保守的,因为TO非常明显,输球就会怪TO,比如第4场。没有哪个教练愿
意因为这个原因被fire,所以很难首发TO高的做首发PG,当时linsanity时候,就有人
说他TO太多。
一般PG被评估是看Assist/TO ratio, 及格线的是2,优秀的是3以上。Lin在火箭第一年
是6.1/2.9,刚合格,可惜在防守上不配Harden,今年就没让他多打PG。他今年assist/
TO是4.1/2.5, 低于2. 他今年这个数据对下一个合同是killer,因为球
队怎么justify他能首发PG?当然你可以说他根本打的位置就是SG替补,不是PG,这个
对Lin更糟糕,因为他6'3",没法打首发SG。
明年是lin的合同年,并且球权不在手里,怎么对自己下个合同利益最大,有2个选择:
1. 要么维持4的assist,减少TO到1.8一场,这样assist/TO可以到2以上。他想平均6的
assist太难了,因为没有球权。如果他assist/TO能到2以上,估计有点希望转队到另一
个做首发。
2. 要么彪分,别搞什么assist了,有机会就投,只要命中率在40%以上,得分拿到18... 阅读全帖 |
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N********n 发帖数: 8363 | 48 主帅卡莱尔就是个年轻版的波波维奇。阵容上DIRK还能打,比BOSH、WADE
之流强,MONTE、CALDERON也是不错的龙套。CARTER、马猴等人的合同也
快清了,想签几个蓝领补强也有薪金空间。小牛的前景比HEAT好。 |
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d*****s 发帖数: 5610 | 50 同意。
Lin以前从高中到Harvard打的就是得分后卫,当时他没有被选中的很大原因是身高不够
得分后卫,组织后卫的能力又没有表现出来,场上没法定位。
后来到火箭,冰箱也发现同样的问题,所以才让Lin打替补,助攻也立刻降下来。
NBA中从得分后卫转组织后卫的很少,大多数人不行。个矮的得分后卫,能打出来的也
不多,必须进攻能力超强,比如Monta Ellis,开始也是没有位置,后来猛得分,现在
打得分后卫,个子矮点,算是成了。
最有名的得分后卫打组织后卫的是西班牙人Calderon, 进NBA前打的是得分后卫,转型
成功,最大原因是失误特别特别少,Assist/TO 比远远大于3.
Lin最大问题是TO太多,本来打的是得分后卫,如果他TO低,那还是有机会的,毕竟组
织一般的话,如果TO低,也是可以的。
现在看来,Lin在NBA没有位置了,明年能有合同就不错了。
NBA一般考虑得分后卫是6'5"以上,组织后卫5‘11以上。 |
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