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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 2 绝对没有BSO的意思啊！只是想说人家那些专业选手的间接真不是一般人能
轻易到的。
也没啥可奔的，因为就我一个人去的。
包子可发可不发，到时候十有八九我还得捐给你！ |
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 3 应该这么说，滑蘑菇转弯不是靠点杖，而是转动膝盖，驱动雪板头进弯道 |
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 4 one benefit I found from pole planting when skiing mogul though: agressive
pole planting forces my upper body to be over the front part of the skis
thus keeps the tips of the skis down |
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 5 其实就是在雪包的迎面使多大的劲立刃，no edging意味着不减速，雪板平行于fall
line向下冲，max edging意味着雪板完全垂直于fall line，减速效果最大，当然这个
时候也就不大可能保持匀速了。
edging的减速作用还是不如A&E的，教练自己都说他滑的时候主要是靠A&E控制速度。 |
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 6 This is the code word in mogul skiing for "skidding", since skidding does
not sound that nice :) Another code word is "carving" :) Comparing
the two, edging is probably a better one.
The easiest way to ski down mogul is probably turning on top of the mogul,
and skidding along the side to the top of next mogul, using poles to help
you balance. It can be done at slow/moderate speed. It does not look that
great, though it is much more gracious than falling all over :) It is a very
good confidence |
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 7 这是没错的，点杖是可以强迫身体重心往前靠，不过前提是雪杖要稍微短一点。 |
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 8 exactly, that's why I want shorter poles now :) |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 9 right, A&E is more important to control speed and balance, but it is really
hard to do
did they teach any drill for this? |
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 10 可以试试traverse 不太陡的蘑菇雪道，这样速度容易控制。
really |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 11 yes, I tried this.
when I was not fast, I could do A&E very well, but on steep terrain, once I
started to lose speed control, I could never come back:( |
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 12 那就别等失控就停下来，把一长段陡坡分成几段短一点的。
I |
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m***h
发帖数: 23691 | 13 Will take a ski camp at Squaw next year. Need to work hard to avoid losing
face... |
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e*******e
发帖数: 1837 | 14 同意这个,对于我们这些不是高手的来说点杖还是有用的. |
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e*******e
发帖数: 1837 | 15 是skidding呀,这个和我在书上看到的一样.他的论点是利用雪包的形状而不是ski的形
状去拐,个人感觉对大的包很管用.
very
lower |
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z******n
发帖数: 336 | 17 I wonder if you have any video to show the A&E technique. Thx
very
lower |
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e*******e
发帖数: 1837 | 18 come to Alta, here we have a lot of LONG traverse with MANY bumps. :-)
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k***z
发帖数: 3522 | 20
very
.
That's pretty much what I am doing now...
The problem here is I can't find a good rhythm/speed, if the slope get
steeper.
And if the moguls are icy and deep, I often find myself skid into the gully
between moguls, which knock me off balance. |
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s****y
发帖数: 2159 | 21 有机会也去参加camp ,太好了。
上山之前坐在咖啡店里大家闲聊，这老兄介绍自己的时候只说自己叫Ryan，大家都称他
R.J.，后来在课上，头上坐缆车的
人经过的时候听到大家叫他RJ，就问他是不是得过两次世锦赛冠军的那个Ryan Johnson
，他笑呵呵说是他，当时我真的是
没想到站在我们面前的人名气这么大。当然了，其实这些教练们演示的时候就能看得出
来这些人都是专业级的人，水平有
多高？这么说吧，不管蘑菇是很陡，还是很大，还是不规则的，都跟玩儿的一样在滑，
而且还� 辈皇钡脑谀⒐缴侠吹慊ㄑ
热缣荆罩凶�80。毫不夸张，说得形象点，就是那种武林高手们的行
云流水和信手拈来一样，不仅仅是运动了，
更像艺术。据说来这儿上课的也不乏专业运动员，我以前提到的Pat Deneen和Jen Heil
据教练说，也偶尔会来和他们这儿
的人滑几天。我们这些上课的人水平有高有底，但就算是滑的最好的那几个，都是上过
好几年这课的人，感觉技术掌握得
不错，搁在任何一处滑雪场都是顶级高手的水平，有时候也会失控。当然人家都比我水
平高多了，但看到了目标，而且知
道了该如何去练习， |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 23 I really wish I can :(
missed alta this year, will be there next season
once |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 24
mogul,
help
that
This is what they called old techniques for mogul skiing. The new techniques
use A&E
I used to ski mogul using the old way, but since last Dec. I went to CO, fly
showed me to do this way.
gully
edging more, and using counter balance are the ways to deal with icy slope |
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s****y
发帖数: 2159 | 25 hmm, I learnt that too, but still can not do A&E correctly and don't have
chance to practice more this season.
techniques
fly |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 26 just practice, practice, practice... it takes time.
I did not have time to practice more either. Haven't go to any ski resort
for 1 month:( |
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s****y
发帖数: 2159 | 27 I guess the ski season is over for me this year,
you still have chances to ski ,right? |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 28 it is not over for me, I can ski in summer if I want, but I did not have too
much time.
I guess for this season, no inbound any more (maybe once next weekend?)
backcountry, this weekend, and sometime in May
resort |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 29 说是John Smart 指导多Pat Deneen和Jen Heil。
那些高手老师是不是都在？上他们的camp就好，不是要碰机会的吧？ |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 30 要知道你去跟高手学，我请假去了，我亏大了，５５５。。。
没关系，我给你发了，你再捐给版上，我发一十，二十，你捐好几百，我好赚啊。。。 |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 31 高质量的ski camp很多，科罗拉多那边我记得还有，你去查查 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 32 我这几天晚上很有定张机票就跑去Aspen, Crest Butte, Taos 的冲动，冲动是魔鬼啊
我最想去Jackson Hole去上几天课 |
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 33 It is probably as old as the "new" techniques. It is just simpler to master,
but is not as efficient and graceful as the "new" one. Wedge vs parallel is
probably a good analogy.
techniques
fly |
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R******e
发帖数: 2254 | 34 It is just a term, I do not care they are new or old, as far as it works.
Actualy, I use the old style most of time, as you said, easy to master, good
for beginner
but if you are really into mogul, eventually, you may want to learn this "
new" style.
fly learnt and mastered the old style last year, which was his first season,
and ever since this season, he started to learn this new style
master,
is
slope |
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 35 你们两个奔吧，mogul也就流行了30多年，器材也没什么太大变化，怎么还出来个新旧
技术之分？这个吸收和伸展，利用起伏转弯的不是一起强调的吗，对立太多了不好，要
统一。
good
season, |
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 36 第一天的课是John Smart带的，第二天是Ryan Johnson带的，第二天J.S.在带另外
一组人。我打听了一下几个和John混得挺熟的人，据他们讲基本上
John Smart一直在带，这个Momentum就是John和她老婆Julia一起办的，当老板
的当然得坐镇咯！嘿嘿 |
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 37 有一个是Chuck Martin办的，在Winter Park/Mary Jane |
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 38 我得承认这次去Whistler绝对是魔鬼的结果。 |
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s******a
发帖数: 317 | 39 很震撼，世界冠军的徒弟，你以后压力的压力大了 :) |
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w**w
发帖数: 353 | 40 这可不敢当，我水平差得远了，压力大的是那些教练们
主要是他们没想到我水平什么差，o(∩_∩)o...哈哈！怕我说出去给他们丢人 |
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s******a
发帖数: 317 | 41 呵呵，以后我可以说和世界冠军的徒弟交换过关于如何滑mogul的意见了。。。 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 42 John Smart的夫人也滑得漂亮吗？那我也要去。。。。。。 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 43 都说winter park/Mary Jane的魔高整齐，我都没去过，看来非去不可了 |
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 47 The video I posted was taught by Chuck Martin in Mary Jane... Shot by one of
his students during the camp |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 48 魔鬼能上刀山入火海，腾云驾雾，开车做飞机是小意思 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 49 牛！我今天白天没法看，现在看见了，太赞了～～
很谢谢分享～～ |
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W*****5
发帖数: 408 | 50 I have the same problem :( Not easy...
gully |
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