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g****t
发帖数: 31659
1
高速上轮胎皮都已经掉出来了.你以为是什么时候轮胎被扎的?
facebook上有人贴了这帮垃圾事后的聊天记录.
有个人说了他们砸车,然后梁跑路了.
还说本来都挺好的,没想到跑了.

wsj的记者在误导大家;
警察说的这句话,没有时间点:
A side view mirror was smashed, someone hit the vehicle, and the tires may
have been slashed,
但记者,把警察的话,加在路虎压人之前,叙述一个不在场的人事后总结/猜测/估计。
就是,想让读者以为。。。。
反光镜被砸,还有一个可能的时间点是终点。因为,最后的图片显示,右边玻璃也被砸
了!
Around 125th Street, Christopher Cruz, a 28-year-old from Passaic, N.J.
whose New Jersey driver's license has been suspended four times, records
show, pulled in front of Mr. Lien's vehicle. Th... 阅读全帖
g*****o
发帖数: 930
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来自主题: Running版 - 今天跑山
昨天慢跑了7mile, 算是热热身。。今天早上一起来,吃了个香蕉一个热狗,就准备好
东西:
running shorts, trail shoes, water pack with a bottle of gadorate, 手表,
几块energy bar, 外加钥匙..出发...在外面做了简单的warmup..出发..首先经过的是
平时
跑得一段trail.旁边就是golf court...一个多mile后,分道,往左拐了(右拐是平时的
路径)..以前在下面就远远的看到2层环山的公路,就很想上去, 一直没有,也不知道怎么
上去..但是凭判断应该是沿着这条路, 因为旁边有牌子指示"lookout mountain"..一会
后面上来几个biker, 就跟着他们..一会又看到前面石头砌的大门, 几辆汽车扒在那里,
一些biker在换衣服。。心想肯定就是这条路了。。于是就开始了漫长的跑山。。路是
标准的两条lane的公路,但我穿的是trail shoes, 有点硬..汽车很少很少, biker不短的
从我后面超过,不过因为是上山,他们其实很慢,比跑步还累..不断有biker打招呼..我
t******n
发帖数: 2939
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - [合集] 如果路虎男没有冲出来
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anqboy (anqboy) 于 (Wed Oct 2 13:54:37 2013, 美东) 提到:
其实事件,因为有视频的存在,省了很多口水仗,就看后面法院怎么判了。虽然瘫了的
那个在非死不可上开了主页,想逆转,但是随便浏览一下就可以发现,吐口水的多于支
持的。
这件事对于那个瘫了的是个悲剧,但是对于整个社会来说是个好事。根据瘫了妈妈说的
,我们假设一下路虎没有压过去。
所有假设基于abc的长报道,包括对摩托党以前行径的描述(http://abcnews.go.com/US/nyc-motorcycle-attack-bikers-wife-walk/story?id=20430576
假设一,路虎被Cut off,停下了,摩托党下车口头羞辱路虎一番走人。
结果很可能是,路虎男包括他家的女性被问候一遍,打电话报警,警察说我知道了,然
后摩托党继续危险驾驶,Cut off下一个人,问候下一个被Cut off的人。最后路虎男回
家郁闷几天,然后发现自己被羞辱的情况被Post到网上,被人骂无能。... 阅读全帖
t******n
发帖数: 2939
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Stevenson (SK) 于 (Tue Oct 8 11:25:00 2013, 美东) 提到:
泥马,这都哪儿跟哪儿?
http://nypost.com/2013/10/07/bike-cop-joined-in-on-suv-beatdown
An off-duty undercover cop who had claimed he took no active role as fellow
bikers pulled a Manhattan dad from his SUV and beat him to a pulp was
actually pounding the vehicle with his fists at the height of the bloody
road-rage attack, sources told The Post.
The cop, a seven-year veteran, had told investigators he didn’t hel... 阅读全帖
h***e
发帖数: 20195
5
【 以下文字转载自 NewYork 讨论区 】
发信人: redstars (brotherhood), 信区: NewYork
标 题: deadly weapon 包括suv不包括bikes你们不会不理解吧
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Oct 2 15:05:20 2013, 美东)
据说bikers的一般年薪5w,买辆二轮车,也是花老鼻子了,对了,还有给政府的税费和
保险,和汽车一样多。当然,很多人不交钱,但是危险就更大。从收入,保护和装备来
说,bikers都是弱者。所以他们要一起出来玩,才壮个胆儿。他们大多是被欺负的,从
小到大被老师,父母,社会修理,你可以理解是在帮他们改正,但是过程和方法不乏对
他们意志和身体的侵害。听每一个问题少年所受的伤,都是罄竹难书啊!
Well,你会说,这没办法,资源有限,不能让谁都随便玩。但是副作用是,这些混混会
犯过来欺负比他更弱的。当然,强人就不管了,保护好妻儿老小就行。
但是你看那么多金的一个人,却被欺负成这样,批评混混的同时,不得不要检讨亚裔自
己的问题,这是资本主义社会啊。有钱人绝对是老大,制度在那帮衬着呢!柿子捡软的
... 阅读全帖
s*6
发帖数: 49
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这帮摩托党根本不是真正的Biker。每年去DC游行的那些才是,那些Biker都是开Harley
Davidson的,很多人是老兵。他们才是Biker,有自己的Biker文化,不会去故意妨碍
别人。这些在city开杂牌sports摩托的就是一帮子地痞流氓。
F*V
发帖数: 3978
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - 也说CNN这个路人作证的采访
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?hpt=hp_tvvideo
首先表扬CNN有这个采访,可让大家知道一些现在还不怎么广为人知的非常重要的真相
(例如车主妻子也被assulated,如果不是有这样的路人英雄站出来,不知道还要发生什
么)。但是有这么重要信息的这个录像并不是很容易找到,没有放到CNN最相关的页面
上,例如说在CNN US下面。在CNN主页容易找到的和此事件最“相关”的文章都没提这
个妻子也被assulated的信息,还动不动就是“bikers speak out"之类的东西。看了这
个路人采访再加上那个视频截频分析(例如说那个break check的Cruz根本就没被撞倒
,也就谈不上什么受伤),就可知那些biker的言论是多么的不可信,但这些谎言还是
占据了很多版面。
另外现在对这个车主真是非常佩服,他的几个决策现在看来都是非常正确,而我是至少
想了一天多才明白的。一个就是下高速进市区,很多人(包括我)的第一感觉是车主太
蠢了进了local车主一定跑不掉了。没错,是跑不掉了,但有路人(行人比开车的更有
帮助)可使他免于一死。他要是想在高速上把他们甩... 阅读全帖
l*****7
发帖数: 8463
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来自主题: Detective版 - 弯弯得瑟男很幸运也很倒霉
发信人: bingya (bing), 信区: Military
标 题: 路虎男真的是麻烦了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 8 23:58:55 2013, 美东)
那个混在飞车党里的警察的女友是new york 市的检察官
发信人: h11826 (hamburger), 信区: Military
标 题: 刚看ac360,有个嘉宾说应该逮捕路虎哥
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 8 22:51:13 2013, 美东)
他说因为理论上"lein's action meet the definition of a hit-and-run crime"
如果从程序的正义性上来说,他是不是真的应该被逮捕呢?
那个嘉宾也说了,当然对他的charge可以因为他和他的家人人身受到威胁而被drop
不过这个嘉宾也很扯,说那个off-duty 警察可以辩称之所以砸lein的车是想以"hit-
and-run",逮捕他,他拒捕,才揍他。。。
发信人: scraper (天朝弃民之非洲萤火虫), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 尼玛,看看Glo... 阅读全帖
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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来自主题: Military版 - 红脖子要造反了
http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/2-million-bikers-roar-over-muslims-i
'2 Million Bikers' roar over Muslims in D.C.
WASHINGTON – It was originally billed as “The Million Muslim March,”
though organizers later revised it to the “Million American March Against
Fear.”
But at noon Wednesday in the nation’s capital, there weren’t a million
Muslims or Americans to be found anywhere – not even close.
In fact, a WND-TV news crew on the scene, preparing to provide live coverage
of the event in a webcast, was un... 阅读全帖
h*******g
发帖数: 508
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来自主题: Military版 - 路虎目击者来了
I happened to be right in the thick of this mess Sunday afternoon. What the
videos fail to show is that these people were not only on motorcycles, but
on ATVs, which have NO BUSINESS being on a highway! There were packs of
these fools waiting at each exit, getting on in droves, cutting all the
drivers off and then just stopping in the middle of the highway! I was able
to get off, ride the side streets and watch this mess unfold. I drive a Mini
Cooper, and I was swarmed around, being cutt off by ... 阅读全帖
x****o
发帖数: 29677
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摩托车从左右超过你,想换lane都换不了,然后前面摩托车故意很慢的挡着你开,正常
人按喇叭很平常的,结果某个biker直接cut off进来,你追了biker的尾。这个司机也
full stop了
好,按照你说的,要互留保险公司是吧,问题是人家biker根本没想跟你协商,直接上
刀扎你轮胎,砸你车窗,请问你怎么办?
1:司机踩油门尽量绕开人逃走
2:下车脱裤子贡献菊花
请你选择
c***h
发帖数: 1862
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Please do not limit your opinion here. We should go to main stream media to
say a few words for the SUV driver. So far many American people sympathies
with the SUV driver. But if the injured Biker get paralyzed, thing are
going to be complex.
1. CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/01/us/new-york-bikers-road-rage-vide
2. USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/30/suv-motorc
3. CBS
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/01/nypd-suspects-sought-in-
4. ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/... 阅读全帖
s*****r
发帖数: 11545
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来自主题: Military版 - Just watched ABC news nightline
Somehow my memory has faded... A biker tried to open the door when they
forced the SUV to stop for a second time. I mixed it up with the initial
stop. What the bikers did immediately after the first stop was not very
clearly shown in the video, but the NYPD said that the bikers did some
damage the car, and a tire was slashed by knife. A prudent ordinary person
will reasonably believe that he was in imminent danger of death or severe
bodily harm.
m***k
发帖数: 37
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Please revisit Lien's video at his second stop and Russian driver's back hit.
No bikers in front of his SUV at that time since the bikers scared to stand
in front of his SUV.
The Russian bikers were also scared after the back hit.
Be a man, be a warrior.
两军交锋勇者胜. Never give up!
l*****9
发帖数: 9501
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Watch the full video... The biker's were out of line, but so was the driver
and the driver started it. There is no law that says someone slowing down in
front of you, gives you the right to bump him out of the way...If there are
laws like this, road rage would have a whole new meaning. Now, after the
bump, the biker's got off to check on their friend...ONce they saw he was
okay, they were going back to their bikes (that's why Gloria Alright took
the case)...Because there was no threat until he r... 阅读全帖
w********n
发帖数: 1119
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NYPD identifies bikers in motorcycle mob attack on Manhattan dad
Police have identified at least a half-dozen of the bikers involved in
Sunday’s attack — including the motorcyclists who yanked driver Alexian
Lien from his family’s SUV, who cops believe to be Reggie Chance, 38. The
NYPD also released photos of two civilian witnesses they are seeking for
help in the investigation.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/wife-suv-driver-attacked-bikers-upper-manhattan-issues-statement-terrif... 阅读全帖
c*******e
发帖数: 563
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虽然我支持路虎男, 但是这个案子真不好说, 现在立案肇事者都说他没有brake, 也
不是看SUV, 是在看他的同伴, 事实上大家看也没怎么碰上, 再加上警察也在bikers
里, 如果说当时并没有人证明bikers动粗,SUV就属于反应过激, 现在舆论是支持SUV
的,因为大家对NYC bikers普遍没好感, 过一阵风向转一转也说不好,所以这个案子
真不是那么好判的
s**e
发帖数: 1834
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来自主题: Military版 - 也说CNN这个路人作证的采访
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/?hpt=hp_tvvideo
首先表扬CNN有这个采访,可让大家知道一些现在还不怎么广为人知的非常重要的真相
(例如车主妻子也被assulated,如果不是有这样的路人英雄站出来,不知道还要发生什
么)。但是有这么重要信息的这个录像并不是很容易找到,没有放到CNN最相关的页面
上,例如说在CNN US下面。在CNN主页容易找到的和此事件最“相关”的文章都没提这
个妻子也被assulated的信息,还动不动就是“bikers speak out"之类的东西。看了这
个路人采访再加上那个视频截频分析(例如说那个break check的Cruz根本就没被撞倒
,也就谈不上什么受伤),就可知那些biker的言论是多么的不可信,但这些谎言还是
占据了很多版面。
另外现在对这个车主真是非常佩服,他的几个决策现在看来都是非常正确,而我是至少
想了一天多才明白的。一个就是下高速进市区,很多人(包括我)的第一感觉是车主太
蠢了进了local车主一定跑不掉了。没错,是跑不掉了,但有路人(行人比开车的更有
帮助)可使他免于一死。他要是想在高速上把他们甩... 阅读全帖
s*****r
发帖数: 11545
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When I looked at the way she talked, I almost vomited.
Mr Lien has hit another biker, he has hit another biker before he ran over
Jay. (Lien not at fault, Jay's gang fellow deliberately caused it.)
Nobody has done anything to Lien before he ran over Jay. He should have
honked to warn Jay. (Damaged SUV, slashed tires, surrounded SUV by group.
Jay blocked the highway. Honking won't work. Lien has honked before, Biker
reacted with swarming around SUV.)
It is irrelevant. He has done nothing wrong... 阅读全帖
b*******t
发帖数: 459
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Biker gang victim speechless over attackers’ reducedcharges
http://nypost.com/2013/12/22/biker-gang-victim-speechless-over-

plans
bikers
v**n
发帖数: 951
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这个事件的最后判决决定着今后在美国路上开车的安全。
如果陆虎哥没事,以后biker帮在路上可能能消停点儿,因为有案例支持碾压阻挡避险
的人员和车辆无罪,其他碰到类似情况就毫不犹豫的撞了,撞死了也是白撞。
如果最后有民事赔偿或者刑事责任,那美国的路上还真不能开了。
白胡子老头们的biker group一般都很守规矩,这种开小排量的摩托小混混简直在路上
就是terrorist。路过过还多次这种biker的事故,一般旁边都没有什么其他事故车辆,
多为混混撞其他车的bumper或者隔离墩,或者电线杆,或者树,特惨,有的还已经盖上
布。看到这种情况心里不自觉地升起一丝小快慰。烂人又少了一个,大家多一份安全。
g*q
发帖数: 26623
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 抓了15个摩托党了
直接跟此事有关的,只抓了别车的那个,还有两个正在抓
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/cops-hunt-bikers-wanted-wil
Cops arrested one biker and are hunting for two more who allegedly beat and
slashed a man in front of his wife and 2-year-old child after a wild chase
through upper Manhattan.
Cruz, of Passaic, N.J. — who was riding with a swarm of dozens of
motorcycles that surrounded Lien's Range Rover — allegedly cut the driver
off and caused an accident, police said.
The biker was charged with menacing, reckless endange... 阅读全帖
s***i
发帖数: 6149
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 支持残废尼哥的现在很多么?
这篇报道说Justice for melize有很多人声援尼哥,只有少数人支持driver,昨天到今
天舆论逆转? 报道是黑鬼写的
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/01/bikers-suv
nyc/2906385/
NEW YORK - A motorcyclist injured in a now widely publicized Sunday
altercation between 20 to 30 bikers and an SUV driver may not walk again,
according to published reports and a Facebook page set up to support him.
Meantime, New York City police are questioning a second person in relation
to the dustup on Manhattan's West Side Highway between the motorcy... 阅读全帖
s******t
发帖数: 1956
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来自主题: Automobile版 - 原来路虎男是被他老婆害了
去年华裔路虎男被bikers追打的新闻闹得很大。今天,才知道路虎男的老婆是触发冲突
的原因之一。
由于不满bikers乱开车的行为,勇气可嘉的路虎男妻子仍了一瓶水去砸bikers,结果大
家就都知道了....
p**********u
发帖数: 15479
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【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: Stevenson (SK), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 原来那便衣警察也砸路虎车了.NYPD头大了.告他了(update)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 8 11:25:00 2013, 美东)
泥马,这都哪儿跟哪儿?
http://nypost.com/2013/10/07/bike-cop-joined-in-on-suv-beatdown
An off-duty undercover cop who had claimed he took no active role as fellow
bikers pulled a Manhattan dad from his SUV and beat him to a pulp was
actually pounding the vehicle with his fists at the height of the bloody
road-rage attack, sources told The Post.
The cop, a seve... 阅读全帖
o**********w
发帖数: 75
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you think this guy hit the punk on purpose? WIth his kid on the car and over
30 bikers around?
Bikers are sure smarter than regular people. Or
this shows many bikers are really stupid assholes.
s******t
发帖数: 12883
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来自主题: SanDiego版 - 路虎事件有人关注吗?
加州差不多算biker gang的发源地了. 很多outlaw biker group是加州发源的.
还好加州的高速公路大多数是南北向的,而不是环线. 特别是sd. 要不然
出门肯定会更多得受到biker group的骚扰.
s*********5
发帖数: 5637
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我觉得北大喜欢舌辩群雄的感觉,Civilized debate should be encouraged。个人建
议北大把这则新闻再看一遍再想想他在高速上正常开车时前面人突然减速横在他前面,
然后周围哄来一帮人袭击他和他的家人他会怎么办。
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/cops-hunt-bikers-wanted-wil
"The bikers were taking part in a ride loosely organized by a group called
Hollywood Stuntz. Police arrested 15 bikers Sunday for incidents unrelated
to the mob attack. “We had over 200 calls just on Sunday about this
particular group operating in a reckless manner,” Kelly said."
我不觉得这帮人是种族歧视。连只是在错误的时间在错误的地点。不过同为亚裔... 阅读全帖
g***m
发帖数: 2999
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 华人遭车祸,却遭谋杀指控
汽车哪敢并排挤一条道里……我是汽车留出来的右转口被直行BIKER堵死的情况,我后
面还跟了两个车呢。真被直行汽车堵死在一条LANE上也就不用滴了,有口子过不去心里
痒呗!呵呵
不过YUEYU说的那种情况也看见过,就是BIKER让了让,汽车不敢过。
见着自行车或者摩托车,汽车司机很容易在心理上有躲避意识,能多绕点多绕点。蹭了
别的车是BODYSHOP,蹭了BIKER是医院。
重点是说其实骑手和司机一样,都有ROAD RAGE,但是双方的地位其实是有差别的,骑
手危险多了。
这里夸一下BELLYBUTTON独立日介绍的PRIUS丢,起步那个软!永远跟人后头,再不着急
了。
l**t
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 劝告那些骑自行车的不要闯红灯

biker们不守规则,比方说有人说过的不停stop sign,是普遍的,猖狂的,明目张胆的
,违反了规则还觉得自己有理。这个大家还是要公平认识。driver故意不守规则的毕竟
还是少数。
driver当然应该defensive driving,biker也应该defnesive biking。真出了事,不是
driver“不见棺材不掉泪”,而是biker见棺材,driver掉泪,谁都够惨,lose/lose。
l**t
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 劝告那些骑自行车的不要闯红灯

嗯,看来白人的确比亚裔高贵啊。。。
旧金山那些被撞死的biker都是亚裔干的?
还有Mercury News有过一个文章,说是biker们看到路边停车挡住了bike lane,就会故
意拿钥匙划人家车子,很多人因为紧急停车在路边被划的。后边一片biker hater
comments。看来这些人都是亚裔啊。
O****e
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来自主题: Cycling版 - 看那个事故有感
It seems to me riding a bike do have the benefits of both. You can ride a
bike on a jogging trail without doing any harm to anyone. It makes total
sense that a biker enjoys the privileges of both. When a biker is on the
road, he has the same privilege of a driver in terms of using the road. That
is the law. And, he does have to the right to ride on sidewalks too.
Unfortunately, there are still quite a few drivers who don't know that. They
think bikers should always ride on sidewalks or only on r
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的确很多biker一点不遵守交通规则,这个常见于那些messengers还有一身打扮的
posers
尤其downtown大晚上九十点的,我最近经常下班去运动然后回家,走挺晚,la
downtown很多bikers晚上活动,几次我都差点撞上,根本没办法防的,忽然就出来了
这些人真的是很不要命
回想我当初commute的时候,多老实啊,顶多stop sign不停一下,红灯还是停的
不过想想,也遇到过险情。换位思考,那种险情,biker觉得危险,driver一样惊出一
身冷汗...
R*****s
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againstwind (逆风而行) 于 (Mon Jul 9 23:25:38 2012, 美东) 提到:
天太热了,我都快晒焦了,毕竟是女人啊,还是心疼皮肤。只能天不亮就骑车。
今天偶尔参加了gym里的spin class,开着大空调,放着鼓舞人心的音乐,老师也很有鼓
动力,一个小时很快就过了,感觉很不错哦,还认识不少人,比自己一个人傻骑好。
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cookiejar (饼干桶) 于 (Tue Jul 10 00:57:07 2012, 美东) 提到:
It's very effective but I just can't bear the boredom. I only spin when I am
nuturing injuries.

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Rodimus (变叔- 6:52) 于 (Tue Jul 10 11:54:4... 阅读全帖
i*****y
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来自主题: Pingpong版 - 大家都上FB支持下吧
不知道你说的哪一个逻辑牵强。
事情的发生难道不是这样? biker man 挑衅在先,然后发生一次碰撞,事后看这次碰
撞并不严重。 然后biker们蜂拥而上,拽门砸车。视频中可以看到门已经被拽开。你不
会认为他们拽开车门是为了友好协商吧。然后路虎男夺路而逃,其间撞伤biker 男一名
。最后还是没有逃掉,被暴打一顿。
想不出比路虎男所做的更好的策略。一家老小都在车上,当时不跑,谁知道会发生什么
。当然现在会面临法律诉讼,但这也是没办法的办法。这是事找你,不是你找事。不跑
下车跟对方说,大哥大哥,消消气,估计不会管用。
如果说在bikerman 挑衅之前,路虎男装孙子,赶紧躲到一边,倒是不错的办法
t****d
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来自主题: Rock版 - 那个听hiphop的人呢?
yes, my point exactly. Hell's Angel are outlaws, but yet they are bikers, they
give the true biker culture a bad name. Just like the few bad apples in hiphop
is giving hiphop a bad name. But yet because they get all of the publicity,
people automatically associate them with the culture, but in reality they are
far from it. You are calling on my ignorance on the topic of bikers and by
doing so you are also pointing out your own ignorance and bias towards the
hiphop and black culture.
No, the MCs
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - I bet Lien will be found guilty of manslauter
Here are the reasons
1) Bikers are on the weak side if you are driving even a compact car, not
even to mention an SUV.
2) I have always keep distance from any biker, period
3) There is a rear bender collision between this Wanwan and those Bikers
4) He did freak out and run over others.
He is in big trouble
s******t
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 路虎男是否可以去状告纽约警察?

"The bikers were taking part in a ride loosely organized by a group called
Hollywood Stuntz. Police arrested 15 bikers Sunday for incidents unrelated
to the mob attack. “We had over 200 calls just on Sunday about this
particular group operating in a reckless manner,” Kelly said."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/cops-hunt-bikers-wanted-wild-upper-manhattan-attack-article-1.1472419
l*****9
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 路虎男是否可以去状告纽约警察?
Watch the full video... The biker's were out of line, but so was the driver
and the driver started it. There is no law that says someone slowing down in
front of you, gives you the right to bump him out of the way...If there are
laws like this, road rage would have a whole new meaning. Now, after the
bump, the biker's got off to check on their friend...ONce they saw he was
okay, they were going back to their bikes (that's why Gloria Alright took
the case)...Because there was no threat until he r... 阅读全帖
l*****9
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 路虎男是否可以去状告纽约警察?
How hard the biker broke is hard to guess. But "The biker made a SUDDEN slow
down to almost a full stop" doesn't fit common sense.

biker
more
L**P
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来自主题: WaterWorld版 - 路虎男是否可以去状告纽约警察?
Some bikers were leaving, OK, but So what?
What matters at that moment is
other bikers are physically threatening Lien and his family. Anyone with a
reasonable mind will try to escape.
According to NY times, during the first stop after the accident, one biker
broke the car's side mirror, others were denting his car, and another
slashed a tire with a knife.
Sure, you can argue this is what NY times said, not evidence.
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sayyousayme (sayyousayme) 于 (Thu Oct 3 19:41:04 2013, 美东) 提到:
左棍媒体开始混淆是非了,开始说谁是真正的受害人,开始说人们开始质疑,开始说但
是,宣称人们为被撞的摩托车手举行烛光守夜。。。。
看下去, 就是守夜的,那些质疑的,都是那伙摩托黑帮的人。 还好, 评论还是一边
倒。
Biker attack video: Who is the real victim?
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/03/us/bikers-attack-video/
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Zildjian (一天5$吃3餐) 于 (Thu Oct 3 19:44:08 2013, 美东) 提到:
是的,因为没撞死一批

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gmails (清风) 于 (Thu Oct 3 21:3... 阅读全帖
D***s
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - 也说CNN这个路人作证的采访
我觉得版上有些attention whore就是以扭曲事实靠自己臆想辩论为乐
这么明显的biker碰瓷事件还要把那些biker美化,污蔑甚至造谣路虎车主
至少我对路虎车主的所作所为很佩服
为家庭敢于担当
而不是某些懦夫事后评点说还有更好解决办法,当时要冷静,担心索赔什么的
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What I see is --- The bikers passed the car in a very dangerous and
offensive way. The driver honked to warn them. One asshole deliberately
braked in front of the car and was rear-ended. They started looking for
troubles. The driver was scared and tried to get away at all cost.
Consequently he ran over a motorcycle. Those assholes then chased him down.
I never like group bikers.
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Quote"The bikers were speeding and driving erratically in the northbound
lanes when Alexian Lien, 33, called 911 to report them about 1:30 p.m."
Most of the bikers are black.
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这种飞车党根本不是老美的biker, 老美的biker聚会都是很friendly的, 一堆大妈大
叔穿了黑皮衣凑个热闹, 反复叮嘱都是注意安全, 哪里象这个样子出来惹事?
路虎男是吓慌了, 其实照准几个碾过去就没人敢来的了。 小流氓看你怂就横, 你硬
他就尿了。
m****r
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美国的Biker文化不应该是这帮trash所展现出来的。以下是New Your Daily上一个人评
的:
ANONOBSERVER 9 minutes ago
In addition to whatever they face from the assault charges, pull their
motorcycle licenses and confiscate the bikes. Since the article mentioned
many of the motorcycles didn't have license plates, let's have a big traffic
crackdown on the ones without plates. Along with some of the more idiotic
behavior, such as riding in between lanes of traffic on highways.
I have friends who like their motorcycles and I try to ke... 阅读全帖
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The key to this case is his wife and the 2-year-old daughter. Bikers are way
too off at this situation when there is a toddler and a woman in car. The
SUV driver could have done much more serious damage to the bikers but
apparently he tried hard to tolerate and was unfortunately being beaten in
front of his wife and child. Women and babies have much higher rights and
priority than any men in the country.
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Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said Monday that Lien would not face charges
for hitting bikers, including Mieses, as he fled.
http://gma.yahoo.com/nyc-motorcycle-attack-bikers-wife-says-won
s*****r
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来自主题: Military版 - 这开路虎的男的不应该下高速吧
he will run out of gas before many bikers. if one biker dies, others may
pull up guns.
but I still think that you are right, if police responds in time.
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