W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 1 说实话, 这几把牌打得很好.
打鱼的本质就是value bet. |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 2 哈哈，丹佛的鱼池平白无辜的少了一堆钱，这样的土匪来来回回几次，赌场都没生意了
。。。
For hand 3, wondering what CO had to make the river call? 47? 88? very thin
value bet on the river...
value |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 3 thanks a lot for your thought. now I definately agree that his check behind
on the turn was for pot control with a hand having showdown equality and like willing to call a river bet. The goad of playing poker is
to make more money and get more value from our hand.
During the hand, I was a little "scared" to bet the river since I was
afraid to get raised with this already pretty big pot compared to my stack and with a hand having good showdown equality. Actually since I had Ace of sp... 阅读全帖 |
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z*******y
发帖数: 578 | 4 昨天玩了2/5 NL，有一把牌想请教一下大家
我在BB位置 33， early position 有人raise到 15， 5家call，作为33 还是非常喜欢
看到这种情况的
Flop： Jc 3c 6d
我check
下边有个非常tight的大爷bet了35，surprisingly 3个人call，到我我该raise多少？
我感觉我经常拿着好牌raise太狠，不能合理的control pot。想跟大家学习一下平时都
是怎么根据手里的牌型考虑bet的size
我raise完了之后那个老大爷fold掉了，告诉我他是AJ
事后我告诉他我是set，他说 "you got a set you need to gamble, you bet too
much." |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 5 Do you even need to ask? UTG raised 12 got almost 6 callers. Typical 1/2
loose table, LOL.
I will bet half the pot as well. 40-50 is enough for chase out some weak
draw like 78, 67, although if you are called by someone, don't rule out sb.
will call a gut shot to gamble just because of the "pot odds".
99% of flush draw gonna call your bet for sure, no matter how many you bet.
You can't go all-in as well since someone might flop a set and waiting for
you.
Your best case is to chase our most of th... 阅读全帖 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 7 ONLINE
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06:01 PM
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 8 ONLINE
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02/27/2014 @ 07:05 PM NBA [504] TORONTO -4½-110
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02/27/2014 @ 10:35 PM NBA [507] BROOKLYN -2-110
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 9 以200场112胜88负56%的赢率算，假设bet$100一场，赢24场，赢$2400,rake
$440，净赢1960，用时约一个月。他平均bet 5%/注，所以基本上能每个月翻倍。算算
每年能挣多少钱（一年4000倍？）。如果用5dimes，rake还能减半。
有人质疑5%太高，我认为并不高。因为sport betting经过让分处理，离实际会发生的
结果近了很多。比poker的variance小的多。而且这个钱并不是他所有的钱。他完全还
可以再拿出几十次。当他赢了一段时间，会提款的。总之他能保证赌本只占他总资金的
一小部分。 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 10 3月6号：
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03/06/2014 @ 09:05 PM NBA [503] OKLAHOMA CITY -5½-110
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 12 ONLINE
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 13 ONLINE
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02/27/2014 @ 10:35 PM NBA [507] BROOKLYN -2-110
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 14 3月6号：
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03/06/2014 @ 09:05 PM NBA [503] OKLAHOMA CITY -5½-110
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 15 3月14号：
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 16 ONLINE
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03/20/2014 @ 08:05 PM NBA [704] HOUSTON -7½-110
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03/20/2014 @ 10:05 PM NBA [706] PORTLAND -4½-110
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 17 ONLINE
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 18 ONLINE
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04/01/2014 @ 08:35 PM NBA [764] DALLAS -4-110
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 19 4月19号：
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04/19/2014 @ 07:05 PM NBA [706] INDIANA GM1 -7½-110
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 20 3月13号：
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 21 ONLINE
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03/20/2014 @ 08:05 PM NBA [704] HOUSTON -7½-110
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03/20/2014 @ 10:05 PM NBA [706] PORTLAND -4½-110
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03/20/2014 @ 10:35 PM NBA [708] GOLDEN STATE -12½-110 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 22 ONLINE
03/25/2014
12:51 PM
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03/25/2014 @ 07:05 PM NBA [653] PORTLAND -6-110
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03/25/2014 @ 08:00 PM NBA [655] OKLAHOMA CITY -3-110
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 23 ONLINE
04/01/2014
02:52 PM
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04/01/2014 @ 08:00 PM NBA [761] HOUSTON +3-110
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04/01/2014 @ 08:35 PM NBA [764] DALLAS -4-110
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02:52 PM
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04/01/2014 @ 10:35 PM NBA [765] PORTLAND -8½-110 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 24 4月19号：
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04/18/2014
06:03 PM
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04/19/2014 @ 09:35 PM NBA [704] OKLAHOMA CITY GM1 -7-110
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06:03 PM
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04/19/2014 @ 07:05 PM NBA [706] INDIANA GM1 -7½-110
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 25 你说的很对,如果是heads up,那肯定是要bet的. 但是这里是3way pot,我虽然实际上是
bet了,但不是很确定这是不是一定最好的玩法,想听听有没有别的建议. |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 26 My 2c.
1. First choice, 这里还是要1/3 pot size bet的， 遇到抵抗再re-evaluate river
。
2. 这里也可以check, river check raise big， 就像青虫哥经常搞的那样。
3. 或者donk bet small，induce bluff。 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 27 river 可以shutdown了倒是
majority time，turn上的bet很少value，而river出花的几率有限，所以如果我的
image不是那么糟糕，我会check
如果我处在青虫哥的地位的话，turn上应该是个1/2以上的大bet，然后river blank的
情况下第三barrel |
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n*********d
发帖数: 1603 | 28 不知道赌球的版块在哪，就这儿问吧，如果不恰当还请版主帮忙转帖到其他地方
问题： 那些online bet网站，比如bovada，既能赌也能赌球的，那个rollover到底怎
么理解啊？
Rollover is 3X Sports/20X Casino/3 poker points per dollar on both the
initial deposit and the Free Bet amount.
*Rolled Over means that your total online sports betting action must meet
the amount deposited, including the bonus.
这个3X是什么意思？比如我存了500，拿到250的bonus，最后要取出来，要达到什么条
件啊？是要累计下注积累points达到(500+250)*3 = 2250 刀然后才能取出750刀 （假
设我750刀赌到最后不赚不亏），还是说我我最后要把这个750刀各种赢球，到最后赢到
2250刀了才能一起全部取出来？
求大牛解释！
谢谢！ |
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x*******0
发帖数: 94 | 29 not instant call but will call for sure
no way to fold your str8 since opp cannot put you on such a garbage hand and
finally hit it and also u had position.
why he can reshove and u could fold? since u checked on the turn seems u
have nothing or very weak hand. river u mini raise could be value bet for
your two pairs ( he may put u have that ) and str8 is the nuts so he took
the chance to fire on u.
almost works. it shows u have very big leak on this game when they make big
bet and if you do not... 阅读全帖 |
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m******n
发帖数: 6673 | 30 还真是这样。我以前也认为 You bet 是 You can bet on it的简略,
是表示赞同.去年NBA季后赛我和美国人探讨总冠军，我说是骑士，他很不屑地说，you
bet,我才产生了怀疑。 |
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p*******9
发帖数: 4 | 31 说赌球总感觉不如betting好听，但是实质是一样的，上周末听MS的一个朋友说，他那
的一个quant用
自己做的模型搞betting，说每月能入帐3到4千英镑。于是我回来稍微研究了一下
bet365的足球赔
率，觉得单场比赛应该只存在投机的可能，连hedge的机会应该都没有，不知道版上有
没有人花过时间
小小研究过betting这块，这里面有机会套利么？
PS：小生还真投过一个用赌球来给客户挣钱的公司的quantitative analyst职位，不过
可惜到现在
都没消息，估计没看上我，它比较明确的说要学统计的phd。下次不投buy side了，投
paddy power
去，哈哈。 |
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w**********y
发帖数: 1691 | 32 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/TexasHoldem/31225957.html
【 以下文字转载自 TexasHoldem 讨论区 】
发信人: fryking (赤道企鹅), 信区: TexasHoldem
标 题: Re: value bet, value bet, value bet!!!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 28 10:18:29 2012, 美东)
［车版］哭，被人hit and run了
［旅游版］丹佛印象
［家版］凤凰女，惹不起
［工作版］代友问，400/hr，接不接?
［枪版］打一枪换地方
［鱼版］有鱼的地方就有凤凰
［性版］今夜，丹佛请将我遗忘
［坑王版］丹佛尽是烂人
［宠物版］累，六小时整了一吨狗粮
［天籁之音(Music)版］听土匪讲那过去的事情 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 33 1/2NL, live in AC.
got QcTc on button.
UTG (new guy) raised to $7, 3 callers, i called. $7 is meaningless nowadays
besides a pot sweetener. (pot $30)
flop: KhJd7s. UTG bet $25, all folded to me, looking at my open ended, vs. a
protecting bet (Kx) to me, i decided to call. (pot $80)
turn: 9s, good stuff. UTG bet $25 again, i didn't want to play this too slow
, raised to $75, he called pretty quickly. hmm? maybe i underestimated him?
a set, KsXs? ... (pot $230).
river: 7d, not very pretty. he chec |
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b****e
发帖数: 1275 | 34 i think we need to distinguish gambling (on blackjack, roulette, etc)
from betting on sports
i believe one can make money in sports betting based on his knowledge.
wheraz in gambling, you have to put your faith in luck.
i've been betting on sports for 2 years now, still winning. (did lose
a lot of profit to online blackjack though.. hehe) |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 35 Gregory Zuckerman and Neil Shah, Invetors Hazard Bold Bet on Yuan. Wall
Street Journal, June 22, 2011
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240
52702304070104576399751829721080.html
("Their rationale: China's economy is a bubble waiting to burst")
Excerpt in the window of print: 'Good luck betting against a $3 trillion
reserve currency,' said George Papamarkakis
Note:
(a) hazard (vt): "VENTURE, RISK "
www.m-w.com
(b) Option (finance)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... 阅读全帖 |
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d*2
发帖数: 2053 | 36 http://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-macys-downward-spiral-144729
Famed department store seeks answers as sales slide; CEO tries discount
stores
By SUZANNE KAPNER
Nov. 11, 2015 9:16 p.m. ET
71 COMMENTS
For more than a decade, Macy’s Inc. boss Terry Lundgren has defended the
traditional department store—gobbling up other retailers, testing out new
selling formats and trying to clamp down on discounts, to name a few tactics.
Now, after years of strong growth, Macy’s faces a crisis. On Wednesday, the... 阅读全帖 |
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a**t
发帖数: 3833 | 37 I bet $3000 for a Hillary 2016 win. Anybody wanna bet with me. I have enough
money in my other accounts, trust me |
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G*********8
发帖数: 644 | 39 发信人: GoodLuck888 (GoodLuck), 信区: Stockcafeteria
标 题: bought SDS to bet on tomorrow data.
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 7 16:16:32 2010, 美东)
bought SDS to bet on tomorrow data.
Wed Jul 07 16:02:06 2010 Buy 300 SDS Executed @ $35.38 |
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c****2
发帖数: 1076 | 40 inventory report out at 10:30am ... many people use it to bet for quick
money in 5 minutes ... just like black and red bet. |
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r*m
发帖数: 16380 | 41 I have 4 loser picks:
APWR, DF, MFC, STP, equaly weighted
you can choose any 4 picks you want, equaly weighted (stock only).
use today's closing price as a start, and Dec17 OE day closing price as
finish line.
whoever makes more money, win.
if we both lose money over this bet, you win.
I will put in 288 weibi as bet. |
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L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 42 I'll take your bet.
I already made my picks one day ahead of you: http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Stock/33171439_0.html, there were 5, I'll take out the one i think it's a bit extended BRCM. so just go with F, CME, CSX, and NEU.
============================================
I can probably come up with a different set of picks, a set of small caps
that match the type of your pick and see how that come out. YRCW, COCO, GMXR
and CPE.
============================================
so these are essentiall... 阅读全帖 |
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w********1
发帖数: 3492 | 43 best gain is AKAM 35 put 4times
best stock gain is ggg up 10%
most unlucky one is idcc, beat on both reve and earning but drop 5% more.
uncertain one but probably wise bidu put spread 150/145 and 150/140
worst option bet is LZ, bid/ask is like 0.20 : 0.95. can't exit anything
nomatter right or wrong
other bet yesterday include xlnx ebay fisv eqix re wll srcl sbux.... |
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w******s
发帖数: 16209 | 44 with good ratio, people will bet on the bull side, at least they dont' need
to worry ratio.
if at the end it is still 1:10, then I have to chip in on the up side to
make myself not making a too bad bet. |
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c****i
发帖数: 399 | 45 confused, and I skip it.
if bet will bet up side. |
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c***y
发帖数: 286 | 46 if you bet with options, you could take on DELL or HPQ. Their options are
cheaper ...
I see a lot people are betting against MSFT now. so be careful...
just my 2 cents ... |
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Y*Y
发帖数: 4838 | 47 i m betting long term, never bet options, just buy stocks, if it drops big,
i will buy more, otherwise, i will hold it for at least half a year |
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r*****e
发帖数: 792 | 48 所以叫bet嘛。只要不大涨，还马上不会亏太多。
本er season第一次bet er。前面的重量级都没有参与。 |
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p******e
发帖数: 17163 | 49 was working my ass off in a restaurant over the past 4 days. made 480 bucks.
kept 80 away for food and candy... as with the rest 400 bucks, bet the
following
call 3/27 uso 17.00 @ 24 dollars each..
god bless me...
well, if it fell, I'll probably work 3 more days this weekend and make
another 360... but then i might need them to pay bill.... well,maybe the
next bet will be the following week. hopefully this dont fell tho.
ya, i'm a degenerate gambler, fml |
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b*******e
发帖数: 24532 | 50 香港回归的时候，小平说香港50年不变，马照跑，舞照跳。我们芝加哥深处资本主义社
会的中心地带，不少同学可能都没有去体验过。 不过不怕，赶在芝加哥的夏秋就要结
束之季，我们组织大家去体验一次。深刻理解一下资本主义腐朽堕落的一面。 当然，
也是给大家多个交朋友的机会罢了：）
Events:
Arlington Park Horse Race and Betting!
这个还是很有意思的，当然不要迷恋上就好。 对于没有参加过这种娱乐活动的，蜂哥
会给前10位同学分别提供一次bet的机会，用来体验一下。 ：） 附几张图片先感受一
下。
http://www.arlingtonpark.com/
Time:
本周日， 11:15 am~ 2:30 pm,
温度还好，大概在28度左右。
Address:
Arlington Park.
如果从downtown过来的，我们会安排车接送，不要担心。
Cost:
Group rate will be $9 per person for Box, and some extra cost for food(To be
determined).
Foods |
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