由买买提看人间百态

topics

全部话题 - 话题: beethoven
首页 上页 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 下页 末页 (共10页)
a*****g
发帖数: 19398
1
人没问题,是进医院而已,被搞错了。哎,这个漏子够大的。
---
Obituary: Richard Bozulich – Founder of Kiseido Publishing Company
http://gogameguru.com/obituary-richard-bozulich-founder-kiseido
[Editor's note: I was saddened to learn recently about the passing of Mr
Richard Bozulich, founder of the Ishi Press and Kiseido Publishing Company.
Mr Bozulich was a tireless promoter of Go for over 40 years; writing,
translating and publishing many English language Go books. Go players around
the world owe him a great debt.
Our thoug... 阅读全帖
d********a
发帖数: 1947
2
来自主题: Running版 - 分享我的workout songlist
整点洋的。。
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
-Turkish March (Rondo Alla Turca)
-Symphony n.40 molto allegro
-Eine Kleine Nachtmusik
-Piano Sonata No. 16 In C
Johannes Brahms
-Hungarian Dance No.5 in G Minor
Johann Strauss
-Radetzky Marsch
Ludwig Van Beethoven
-Ode To Joy
Antonio Vivaldi
-Spring
Émile Waldteufel
-The Skater's Waltz (Die Schlittschuhläufer)
Scott Joplin
-The Entertainer
-Ragtime Dance
-Maple Leaf Rag
他的曲子都很活泼,适合运动时听
Georges Bizet
-Carmen - Procession of the Toreadors
-Carmen - Haban
b***i
发帖数: 10018
3
来自主题: Running版 - 推荐些长跑时听的音乐把
beethoven 5th symphony
M******n
发帖数: 43051
4
来自主题: Travel版 - 欧洲最无聊城市,偶觉得是
Schubert, Haydn, Beethoven, Brahms, Mahler...

Mozart
l******n
发帖数: 11737
5
来自主题: TVGame版 - 在卡耐基听贝多芬

you should add 'moonlight', because these three are most popular and known
by people, even though all the titles are not made by Beethoven himself (
actually he might be crazy for those names if he was still alive), and even
most people only listen to the first chapter of those three sonatas.
S*****i
发帖数: 2031
6
来自主题: astrology版 - 世界与中国射手名人录 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Saggi_MitBBS 俱乐部 】
发信人: SpikeLi (Spiky), 信区: Saggi_MitBBS
标 题: 世界与中国射手名人录
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Dec 6 22:18:05 2011, 美东)
射手座名人录
弗里德里希•恩格斯(Friedrich Engels)玛丽亚•卡拉斯(Maria
Callas),白辽士 Hector Berlioz,鲁宾•斯坦Lubinsitan, 路德维希•凡&#
8226;贝多芬(Ludwig van Beethoven), 马克•吐温(Mark Twain——原名萨缪尔&
#8226;兰亨•克莱门斯 (Samuel Langhorne Clemens)), 史蒂芬•斯皮尔伯
格(Steven Allan Spielberg 又译:史蒂芬•阿伦•斯皮尔伯格), 布兰
妮•简•斯皮尔斯(Britney Jean Spears), 李小龙(Bruce Lee), ... 阅读全帖
s**********n
发帖数: 3199
7
来自主题: astrology版 - 朗朗vs.李云迪,双子vs.天平
Beethoven is a Gemini? shoot ... 很 Aries的feel啊 ...
Chopin ... 汗,很Pisces啊...
c****r
发帖数: 347
8
很多在认识发现世界/宇宙/人的精神方面的不同领域最有影响的几乎都是在冥,天,和
/或海有重要相位时出生的,特别是刑冲相,并且在某些日座较为集中。著名统治者,
君王,政治人物有此相位的却不多,日座也大不一样。一些例子:
Socrates – Taurus, U square P
Karl Marx – Taurus, U and N square P
Pope John Paul II – Taurus, U Trine P
Carl Friedrich Gauss - Taurus, N conjunct P
Adolf Hitler – Taurus, N conjunct P
Kant – Taurus, N trine P
Confucius – Virgo?? U square P
John Locke – Virgo, U Trine P
Friedrich Hegel – Virgo, N, U, P grand trine
Michael Faraday – Virgo, N trine P, U opposite P
Louis Pasteur – Capricorn,... 阅读全帖
j******7
发帖数: 1522
9
来自主题: bagua版 - An example of difference
When you look at piano board, you think of Beethoven, Mozart, Bach etc; but
when I look at it, I see a bunch of chopsticks.
c****n
发帖数: 47
10
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: 请推荐唱片

I think small pieces will be good at the beginning.
Besides others' suggestion, I recommend:
Beethoven's piano sonatas (almost everyone begins with
"pathetique", "moonlight", "appassionata", "waldstein"...)
Chopin's preludes and nocturnes.
Vivaldi, Abilioni, and others in their fashion.
DG complied an album called "Adagio" with pieces from
various composers, which is popular and may be interesting to you too.
Enjoy!
S****n
发帖数: 46
11
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: Anyone who plays the piano?
take lessons. although they are quite expensive, you feel progress along the
way.
really regret giving it up even though i have access to pianos at school.
the difference between a real piano and an electrical one is not only in
sound, but also on how you touch the keyboard and how it transforms to
strings. you can play very very loud piano and also very very soft one.
in beethoven's moonlight, you must perform the different emotions....
H**p
发帖数: 135
12
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - EMI new releases "20th century great recordings"
see www.emiclassics.com
This time the released recordings are all operas. Most of
them are reissues.
All in mid-price.
Among them there are,
Beethoven
Fidelio (Klemperer) once in full price release.
Bizet
Carmen(Beecham)
Mozart
Cosi Fan Tutte (Boehm) The most acclaimed version of this
opera.
Magic Flute(Klemperer) once in full price release.
And more.
T******n
发帖数: 3180
13
人家跟本就不“压抑”
请不要将Mahler放到与Brahsm相比的行列
你说的第三是string quartet?
那个说法太宽泛,适用于几乎他所有的曲子
我有个具体点的描述:它的慢乐章出现了一点Beethoven的痕迹,立刻又全是Brahms了
之前两首小调,没有这种迹象
w*******n
发帖数: 4188
14
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - funny experience
In my apartment downstairs there lives a young black guy,who
loves rap a lot.
He always makes a huge noise.I can not tolerate it.
So I turn my stereo to the highest volume.First I tried
Reiner's Bartok's concerto for orchestra,there is no
response.The black guy still keep his rap noisy.Then I try
Ormandy's Orff's Camina Buruna,this time he turns down his
stereo a little bit.Finally I use Kleiber's Beethoven
5,haha,he shuts his rap .
H**p
发帖数: 135
15
标 题: 李近朱:第九交响曲
发信站: 北大未名站 (2000年12月20日11:20:51 星期三), 站内信件
一八二四年五月七日晚上,在音乐名城维也纳,一个历史性的伟大时刻,铭刻在音
乐艺术的辉煌史册上。在这座讲究礼仪的艺术之城,就是皇族驾临,人们也不过行三次
鼓掌礼,而在这个晚上,如果不是警察的出面干涉,也许这个掌声会有十次、二十次…
这是一个何等恢宏壮伟的场面!这是一个多么令人难忘的时刻!在这里,一部不朽的音
乐杰作第一次出现在欧洲乐坛上。
罗曼·罗兰用激动的笔触写道:“黄昏将临,雷雨也随着酝酿。然后是沉重的云,
饱蓄着闪电,给黑夜染成乌黑,挟带着大风雨,那是《第九交响曲》的开始 —— 突然
,当风狂雨骤之际,黑暗裂了缝,夜在天空给赶走,由于意志之力,白日的清明又还给
了我们”。
是的,当人们从这震撼寰宇的音响中苏醒过来,当人们从这欢乐之声的轰鸣中站立
起来,片刻沉默之后的暴发,竟壮观得使皇族驾临的威重礼仪暗然失色。人们狂热地欢
呼鼓掌,涕泪交流地涌上舞台,向这位为人类铸造出如此惊人的艺术杰作的大师奔去…
但是,有谁想像得到,这位伟大作品的作者 ——
k******r
发帖数: 2300
16
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - who knows philip Glass...
Any friend can tell us something about Philip Glass, John
Cage and Steve Reich? The longer such article is , the
better it is. :-)Actually, I really don't understand their
so called "Modern music" or "Postmodern music". They made me
sleep.:-)I know they followed Schoenberg,but I really can't
relate their mucic with Schoenberg's.
Someone called Steve Reich, John Cage, Philip Glass as
Haydn, Beethoven, Mozard. I think that is really ridiculous.
I read allegretto's article about Philip Glass'
d***e
发帖数: 710
17
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Prayer - Tzvi Avni
a piece of music by an Israeli composer, tale-telling,
heart-wrenching strings, you guys should really, really,
listen to it.
It is mysteriously reminiscent of the orchestral music used in
Farewell to my concubine (霸王别姬) --- did 赵季平 compose that?
I listened to this piece at a concert today by an israeli
chamber music ensemble Israel Camerata Jerusalem, they were
wonderful. The program today was as follows:
Symphony No. 78, C minor - Haydn
Piano Concerto No. 2 in B-flat major - Beethoven
(pianist
k******r
发帖数: 2300
18
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Generation to generation...
I just listened to a local classical music radio and there
was a really
exciting programme: generation to generation. I would say it
is a
salution to the greatest violinists in the 20th century.
The first one is Heifetz who played the slow movement of
violin concerto
No. 1 by Brunch. The second one is Milstein who played
caprice No. 5 and
No. 11 by Paganini. The third one is Oistrakh(the first time
I listened to
his performance)who played the last movement
of violin concerto by Beethoven. The f
w*******n
发帖数: 4188
19
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Naxos's reissuance of essential old recordings
I have heard several pieces in Tower Record,such as
Heifetz's Brahmas,Cortot's Chopin,Toscanni's Beethoven.The
sound quality is far below the standard requirement.I
think,for the beginner,those are not first choice,because
you can not fully appreciate the delicacy and nuance of the
performance.But for comparison and collection purpose, it is
worthwhile.
Another thing about these old recording is that you can not
turn on the volume too large.If you just set the volume to
below-middle level,and do
a*****a
发帖数: 112
20
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Naxos's reissuance of essential old recordings
Which Tower Records store did you go to? You know I have
long been looking forward to doing some "physical shopping",
but never did so because of the distance and fear of
prohibitive prices. CDs are more expensive in the stores,
aren't they? What are the normal price levels?
By the way, I agree that the quality of some old recordings
are too terrible to be listenable. Immediately I will come
up with the well-remembered example of mine, which is
Beethoven's Second Symphony by Furtwängler on
b*v
发帖数: 1
21
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Naxos's reissuance of essential old recordings
I have always been to one in philadelphia when I do some
shopping on weekends or after attending concert in the
academy of music.
I'll always buy some,although it is expensive than on-line
shopping.You just can not help buying some.That is really a
enjoyable experience for me.What's more, there is a section
in that store,which always sell some old time CDs in very
cheap price.For example,Heifeitz Bach
BWV1001&1005&1004&1006&arrangement for English suite
6$,Fischer$Furtwangler Beethoven "emperor
s*y
发帖数: 293
22
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 刚发现一个很不错的mp3 radio
http://www.shoutcast.com/waradio.phtml?genre=Classical
质量不错, 选曲还算丰富, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven的比重略
高, 但还是可以忍受. 听到过一盘各种Pagnini主题变奏的集成,
真是带劲.
w********h
发帖数: 12367
23
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 从音乐角度看一部音乐家传记片(Z)
从音乐角度看一部音乐家传记片
●杨大林
音乐家传记题材的影片,自然多以音乐史上著名人物的生平(或
局部生平)为叙事主线。同类题材作品中较早也较为突出的一部,是
阿贝尔·冈斯[注1]在1936年导演的《伟大的恋人贝多芬》(Un
Grand Amour de Beethoven),其中法国演员哈里·波尔(Harry
Baur)扮演主角。乐圣贝多芬的爱情生活之谜一直是后人的关注点和
兴趣点,电影导演更不例外,所以近年来又有了一部由英国演员加
里·奥德曼(Gary Oldman)主演的《不朽的情侣》(Immortal
Beloved,1994)。捷克籍导演米洛斯·福尔曼(Milos Forman)在
1984年拍摄的《上帝的宠儿》(Amadeus,或译“莫扎特传”),则
把一直被世人奉若神明的音乐天才重新人格化了。同类题材影片中
特别值得一提的,还有英国导演肯·拉塞尔(Ken Russell)在70年
代初导演的《音乐恋人》(The Music Lovers,1971)和《马勒传
》(Mahler,1974)。前者所涉及的是音乐界一段既感人又具神秘
色彩的精神恋爱史——俄国作曲家柴科夫斯基和他
H**p
发帖数: 135
24
From www.emiclassics.com
大多是MONO,不过翻箱底能翻出这么多东东,别人要眼红EMI了:
1.
100th issue in the series
PUCCINI: Tosca
Victor de Sabata
Callas, DiStefano, Gobbi
Coroe e Orchestra del Teatro alla Scala di Milano
{7243 567756 2 6}
{Angel 567759 2 3}
(MONO, 3CDs)
2.
BEETHOVEN: SYMPHONY No.3 'Eroica' Overtures: 'Leonore' Nos. 1 & 2
Philharmonia Orchestra
OTTO KLEMPERER
7243 5 67740 2 5
(Angel: 5 67741 2 4)
(MONO, 1CD)
喜爱贝三的人大概多数知道这个演奏吧.而KLEMPERER的STEREO就差多了.
3.
DELIBES: LAKME
CHARLES BURLES & ROGER SOYER
Choers & Or
H**p
发帖数: 135
25
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 大家说说自己最喜欢的单声道CD吧.
本人买的不多,有的也就是那些炒的:

EMI BEETHOVEN 9 FURTWANGLER
EMI TOSCA CALLAS
DG MOZART MAGIC FLUTE FRICSAY
DUTTON MAHLER 9 WALTER(好象乐团用的滑音很多)
f**m
发帖数: 246
26
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - want to get this ya
but where is money ne?
Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli plays Beethoven Sonata No. 3 in C Major, Op.
2, No. 3 (color, 2-24-70)
Sviatoslav Richter plays Brahms Intermezzo in E minor, Prokofiev Sonata No.
2, Ravel Jeux d'eau and Alborada del gracioso (9-26-64)
f******k
发帖数: 297
27
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - teachers and students, a draft
花乐一点时间整理乐一下钢琴家的师承关系, 对于钢琴派系的发展的了解
还是挺有帮助的。大家快快补充呀。
Beethoven - Czerny
Czerny - Liszt,Letchetisky
Liszt - Martin Kraus, Tausig, D'Albert, Josseffy, Buelow, Siloti
Chopin - Miluti, Emile Decombes
Miluti, Josseffy, Liszt - Rosenthal
Letchetisky - Paderewsky, Schnabel, Moiseiwitch, Friedman, Horszowsky, Essipoff, Vengerova
Godowsky - Neuhaus
Vassily Safonov - Lhevinne
Anton Rubinstein - Hofman, Blumenfeld
Zverev, Siloti - Rachmaninov
Martin Krause - Arrau, Edwin Fischer
Schnabel - Leon Fleischer, We
r*****g
发帖数: 123
28
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: 如何听懂古典音乐
这是个老话题。我想任何一个自己摸索着,走上这条路的人都会有他的体会。
先说Rock和Classical,我决不同意你对摇滚的贬低。实事求是的说,classical
不是我们时代的东西。他有血有肉的生涯也不过三百多年,而诉诸耳朵的艺术
形式却一直伴随人类。classical产生于他特殊的社会现实和趣味当中。音乐和
其它样式一样,同时完成着娱乐大众和满足精英的两种功能。德国人以他们特殊
的民族本性,把classical大幅度的推向精英化。他们为后人树立了借以凭吊的高峰,
他是音乐一时的显身,但不是音乐的归途。我们时代的音乐是jazz和rock。
当然,jazz比较短命,现在已经可以写jazz的历史了。rock却依然活蹦乱跳。
我承认,rock的技术比之classical尚显粗糙,对歌词的依赖削弱了抽象性。但他
在对人心灵的抒发和解放方面,超越了classical。我常想,beethoven如果
生在现代,他一定会抱起吉他,而不是坐在钢琴边。对于这两种音乐形式,认真而
富于同情心的分析,不是我能胜任的。但是,当丁武用他高亢嘹亮的嗓子唱出“奔
腾的灵魂飞向天际”时,我心魂的狂突,精神的狂喜,丝
f******k
发帖数: 297
29
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: 如何听懂古典音乐
okay, any one provides a pop/rock composition (structure, texture,
harmony) comparison with that of classical music, say your favorite
Diabelli Variations? technically do you see a progression or
a regression? the 'knowledge' i refer to encompasses 'compositional
technique'. beethoven will be well capable of writing a pop/rock
hit if he wants to, but i can hardly see John Lennon can write
a work in a scale similar to Diabelli Variations.
r*****g
发帖数: 123
30
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: 如何听懂古典音乐
嗯,这样孤立语境的对比是不恰当的。譬如,你不会拿着李商隐的诗去质问余华,
你笔下何曾有过这样的语言。
艺术以表达为第一需要,不以技术论高下。而且,技术在特定的样式里,有其特
定的含义,不能拿classical的技术来要求rock。rock突出的是真实和直接,在
技术方面不象classical那样苛求。他的长处是,对普通个体的生活和心灵境遇的
关照。回想一下张楚唱的“想一想邻居女儿,听听收音机,看一看我的理想还埋在
土里。”classical何尝理会过一个青年的愿望与无助。所以,二者各有其丰满和
瘦弱的地方,不好强拉硬比。至于你说的beethoven写hit,我不认为rock里有什
么hit。即使有,也远不是,善写优美的旋律就够了,它要的是一副心肠。

r****y
发帖数: 3412
31
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: 如何听懂古典音乐
I don't think they can't be compared.Beethoven was so obsessed to his music
which doesn't necessarily mean that he is reallly able to catch up the pop
rhythm of that decade.Even if John Lenno can not write a work in a scale
similar to Diabelli Variations, Lenno value and great works are so
well-appreciated.The most important thing is the spirit.They are both genious
but in different fields.They have brought joy to ppl.
I am not a John Lennon's fan,neither any rock n roll bands' fan.I sometimes
t
f******k
发帖数: 297
32
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: 如何听懂古典音乐
but not every mozart's work is for general public,
his piano quartets for an easily pick-up example.
opera in a general sense is aimed at the public, a bit
like today's movie.
beethoven's late quartets are for a small circle of
friends, as the composer emphasized.
anyway, this is way off the initial topic. i just want
to say the composition of classical music is much more
technical demanding than pop/rock music, whether an
audience can benefit/appreciate from this difference
depends on the audi
a*****s
发帖数: 131
33
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Urania Records, INC Beethoven Symphony No.3 Eroica
我有URANIA版的贝三,1944年12月,FURTWANGLER指挥VIENNA PHILHARMONIC的录音。CD是
法国制造的 (remastered in 1998 by Charles Eddi, made in France by Dureco),唱
片号是 FURT 1031,是我几年前偶尔一次在北京新街口的太阳音像买的。唱片的目录是这
样的:
[1] Allegro con brio 15'34
[2] Marcia funebre (Adagio assai) 17'35
[3] Scherzo (Allegro vivace) - Trio 6'32
[4] Finale (Allegro molto - Poco andante - presto) 12'42
我没和别的版本比过,因为我手头只有Karajan
Gold的贝三和Egmont,但我个人觉的,Furtwangler的演奏的确很迷人,速度较慢,从第
一声齐奏起,气氛就出来了。
m****t
发帖数: 5
34
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 无聊的争论
626 is truly great, but I dare not listen too much. It is too
heart-breaking.
Giulini is wonderful, his Mozart's 23 Piano Concerto with Horowitz
is splendid, while his Beethoven symphony is too slow to stand!
r*****g
发帖数: 123
35
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Karajan 66's Ein Deutsches Requiem
Karajan 66年的 Ein Deutsches Requiem, 又重新remaster 出版了。效果明显的好于以
前Gallery系列里的那张。Karajan六十年代的录音都显得很有精神,比如63年Beethoven
,66年的Bruckner 9. 第二乐章里的定音鼓敲地鲜明,紧凑,与众不同。Karajan对合唱
作品的把握一向出色,对不同声部的表现很清晰。想起来,我听Previn指挥Deutsches
Requiem,所有声部熬成一锅粥。
但是这个录音里最闪光的不是Karajan而是 Gundula Janowitz。在Brahms为了纪念他的母
亲而后来加入的第五乐章里,她天使一般的声音和对这个乐章的独特把握,使得其它的
soprano黯然失色。这段唱有一点呜咽的感觉,Schwarzkopf 唱的感觉好象要断气儿,后
来的 Barbara Bonney (Giulini, VPO, DG) 扯开嗓门儿唱,让人难以接受。Gundula
Janowitz 还有一个录音是和 Haitink。这个录音录于80年,效果稍好,Gundula的处理不
象60年代幅度那么大,却一样感人。
b******r
发帖数: 7
36
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Karajan 66's Ein Deutsches Requiem
今天去买了。不错。对比了克伦普勒的时间是69,卡拉扬的时间是76,
跟一般人对两个人的速度的印象不同。卡拉扬更有些凝滞感,但是令
人信服。
卡拉扬这辈子指挥这个曲子次数之多,也是和可观的。见于唱片的一
是1947年的EMI单声道,跟施瓦茨科普夫和霍特合作,然后还有一个
是80年代和亨德里克斯和汪达姆的DG数码录音。没有听过,不过都见过
好评。


前Gallery系列里的那张。Karajan六十年代的录音都显得很有精神,比如63年Beethoven



a*****s
发帖数: 131
37
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: 大家听音乐都用什么硬件啊? to yml
I am interested in Bruckner recently. I got several versions of his symphony
No.8, like Celibedache(EMI), Karajan(DG), Boulez, and Haitink's early version.
It is a huge work and needs a lot of attentions.
I also got Barenboim's early recording of Beethoven's complete piano sonata. I
do suggest to everybody here. As Penguin Guide says, it is "ground-breaking"
performance.
b***y
发帖数: 554
38
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Decca Legends
any one collect this series?
http://www.deccaclassics.com/music/legends/index.asp#
i have 4,
Beethoven: Violin Sonatas
Perlman/Ashkenazy

Mendelssohn:
A Midsummer Nights Dream
LSO/Maag
Schubert: Spohr Octet
Wiener Octet
Schubert: Symphony No.9
Vienna/Solti
f******k
发帖数: 297
39
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - new NYTimes article on Beethoven Ninth
very informative, talking about political, cultural and historical
significance of the "Ninth".
link: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/19/arts/19CONN.html
r*****g
发帖数: 123
40
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 又谈旋律,兼谈和声
这个曲子被改编的最多。最出名的应该是 segovia 的改编,他也多次录这个曲子。
Bussoni 的钢琴版,有好多出色的录音。一直被人们认为典范的是michelangeli
在EMI的录音,同一张盘上的 Brahms’variations on a theme by Paganini 也
受众人吹捧。我个人比较喜欢 Rubinstein 的录音。现在现场演出这个曲子的很少。
一个例外是 Pletnev,他两年前在 Carnegie Hall 的 debut 第一个曲子就是它,
接下来就是 Beethoven 32,同时挑战技巧和深度。那次的演出有录音。Pletnev
弹的是名符其实的现代钢琴,声音规模极大,听着非常过瘾。一点遗憾是,他用
踏板太多,声音的结构显得不是很合理。前一段时间听他弹展览会的图画,我相信
如今没人比他弹的再好了。基辅大门的最后,我都不知道他的琴声是怎么出来的,
从来没听过钢琴发出这样的声音。回来后赶紧找他的录音,虽然也很好,但是强度
比现场差很多。这个人很傲慢,在台上迈四方步,目中无人。为听他一场演出,我
卖了三次票,前两演出次全取消了。
r*****g
发帖数: 123
41
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Taste
Charles Rosen 和 Adorno 之间的差距很大。Adorno 常有让人耳目一新的言论,现在人
们对mahler 的很多观点受他的印象很大。以前人们对 Mahler 7 的最后一个乐章持肯定
态度,而今人们转而吹捧中间的三个乐章。 Adorno的分析是,和 Nietzsche类似,
Mahler 善于表现悲观,压抑,绝望,一旦他要歌颂的时候就显得苍白无力。
Rosen 则没有太多有新意的东西,对已经树立起来的权威,他从技术角度加以极力捍卫。
任何试图从其它角度理解权威的努力,都被他认为不够严肃;忽略了,或者说没有认识到
权威的伟大之处。譬如,Beethoven 有如此大名,难道原因只在他的音乐里面吗?其实,
从 Rosen 的书里看得出他对很多问题的见解很清醒,但这都不能动摇他保卫权威的立场
。他是如何过渡的,总让我摸不着头脑。

deserves
an
ignorance:
的坦
有点
的书

Adorno?"
classical
r*****g
发帖数: 123
42
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Pollini 的“热情”
长时间以来,对 Pollini,我不知道是吹捧好还是贬低好。他成名那么早,早期有又很多
好录音。但他近些年的录音都不太好,两年前的“Diabelli”几乎到了谷底。他现场演出
的水平也参差不齐,时好时坏。
但是他去年的两张 Schumann 却让人眼前一亮,很多人说这是他二十年以来最好的录音。
今年他又出了一张 Beethoven。其实是个双张,只有四个曲子,但其中的23和24有现场和
录音室两个录音。现场的那个“热情”真是精彩,比Gilels的录音都不逊色。听完了,兴
奋之余难免有点遗憾。我也听过他现场的“热情”,时间前后差不多,怎么效果会差那么
多呢?
p******l
发帖数: 7
43
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 最感人的片断
Furtwangler BPO 1950 Rome: Bruckner Symphony No.7
(比较下来,其它版本只能望其项背,也正是这个曲目,让我再一次对Karajan失望阿,同
样是BPO,指挥的影响太大了)
Furtwangler Tristan und Isolde prelude
(是wartime录音,从广播里录到了磁带上,每次开车听都如痴如醉,心目中最完美的诠释
,只不过为此高价去买了Furt指挥的Tristan全套,听CD感觉缺了点什么,也说不出是什
么)
Furtwangler Beethoven Symphony No.9 1951 Bayreuther
(太有名了吧,又是活生生把Toscanini的比下去了,至少我强烈如此感觉)
嘿嘿,果然是个狂热的Furt迷
b*******s
发帖数: 470
44
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 音盲收到了好几套古典CD,请教
欧是个音盲,前几天朋友送偶了很多套CD,
偶听着也还瞒好听的,想多了解一些背景,听起来可能
收获会多一些,所以跑来请教各位大牛:
先说一套偶比较喜欢的:
Piano Concerto Collection
其中Mozart的最多,共9张。偶听好像都差不多,
不知那张是最好听的?
还有Beethoven的3张,那厮不是写交响曲的吗?怎么也来写
钢琴协奏曲啊?
No.1-5
还有chopin的两张
mendelssohn, liszt, tchaikovsky,schumann的各一张
剩下的是偶没有听过的名字
Saint-saens
1,2,3,4,5
Brahms两张
rachmaninov两张
ravel/gershwin一张
各位能不能指教一下:上面的作品各有什么特点?精华点在哪个部分
br />
还有bach和Haydn的一些别的,偶听完了这个再听。。。
再有就是是不是不同的交响乐团演奏的效果不一样啊?
f********t
发帖数: 4574
45
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 大家听哪些online radio?
偶主要听
http://www.mostlyclassical.com/
http://www.king.org/
http://www.classicfm.com
感觉http://www.beethoven.com/ 广告多了些.
请推荐一些常听的.
c********g
发帖数: 20
46
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: How's Rattle's recent Beethoven Sym
觉得他和brendel的贝协的确一般,马五很清楚,很到位呀?当然确实不如babirolli等人
。不过很抱歉,越来越开始欣赏他的那套贝交了,品味比较差的关系吧,也不敢认为自己
比bpo那百来个人更有眼光。那一套里面除了第六是糟粕、第九还没敢听之外,第三第五
都相当好,第四末乐章的速度有点可疑:是moto perpetuo没有错,快得有点太离谱了吧
?其余也大致无懈可击,总而言之精力充沛,热情洋溢,大胆而不做作。录音不怎样(令
人吃惊地),vpo的声音听起来发干。但已经习惯了… 而且,第六也得到了补偿;去年年
底他和bpo的pastorale深沉温暖,壮丽难言,简直完美无缺。
c********g
发帖数: 20
47
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: How's Rattle's recent Beethoven Sym
也就是argerich的第三、richter的第五最喜欢了,argerich/dutoit的要比和abbado的好
,第一乐章的开头和那段gavotte弹得叫人血脉贲张。ashkenazy的第一也不错。不过最ft
的是上次听到一个怪异的第三,觉得阴森恐怖,当然录音也叫人毛骨悚然--然后得知是
prokofiev自己的首演 -_-

have
^^^^^^^^//hand
觉得他和brendel的贝协的确一般,马五很清楚,很到位呀?当然确实不如babirolli等




r*****g
发帖数: 123
48
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 下个乐季
为了近一步丰富广大人民的业余文化生活,纽约市的各大演出团体都已经公布了下个乐季
的演出计划。好戏连台,不容错过。最难得的是 Levine 指挥 Boston Symphony
Orchestra 的 Mahler 8。Levine 一直想在 Met 演一次 Mahler 8,但是 Management 的
阻力太大。本来就赔钱,演Mahler 8只会赔得更多。刚到BSO,Levine 就要过这个瘾。正
在顶峰的 Takacs String Quartet 明年一月份要拉 Beethoven complete cycle。Rosen
要在 92nd st Y 连讲带弹三个下午。主题分别是 Chopin, Schumann, Mendelssohn
and Brahms。也就是他的那本 Romantic Generation。
g*********t
发帖数: 154
49
来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Beethoven 's piano sonata Opus 110
It is his second last piano sonata. He wrote it when he was partially and even
completely deaf. It is exteremely beautiful and well-structured. The first
movement is full of poetic imaginations and very concise. It is so concise
that I could sing it all out. I guess he didn't waste a single note since it
is all from his brain. The second movement is splendid and very powerful. It
is like a royal dance full of elegance and splendor. And again, not a single
note is unnecessary. The third movement
首页 上页 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 下页 末页 (共10页)