c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 1 are u talking about Wade Sun? wow, he is a great player, over 2200
before, he could beat a lot of 2200 shakehands, yes, his style
is not that traditional, but his talent is so high, i never see
a penhold could loop that well on his backhand side, also he could
counterloop so well from far away off the table.
he is a very nice person too, he warmed me up all the time at USOpen
of 2004 at Chicago which was the tournament i broke 1900 at the very
first time.
Unfortunately, he moved to Virginia due |
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x*****1
发帖数: 14 | 2 多谢你的建议。
根据你的推荐，大概选了下面一个组合
Allround Classic Combo Special (In Stock)
Item: XSSALCN Price: $78.95
Assemble: YES
Blade : Allround Classic (In Stock) Straight
Forehand Rubber : 999 Elite Ultima (In Stock) 2.0 Black
Backhand Rubber : Moristo 2000 NX (In Stock) 2.0 Red
Subtotal: $78.95
价格上有点出入，不知道是不是选的底板或者胶皮上有不同。（没有选特厚的胶皮，因
为担心太重了。）
不知道还能不能给点折扣？ 谢谢。 |
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c*********o
发帖数: 179 | 3 I think the weight of the rubber is a concern of many people on this board.
I found a tabel of the weight of most rubbers on the market. See the table
below for details.
Personally, I think the best back hand rubber is Nittaku Renanos Bright Soft
because (1) the weight is very light; (2) good balance in speed, spinning,
and control.
Surprisingly, Hurricane III with #19 sponge is also light and can be
considered as a backhand rubber.
Brand Model Hardness Thickness Colour UncutMass |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 4 i thought u only took a pix of it, did u video it? i even never saw myself
play.
Henry Kwong had problems to return my backhand high toss serves, but not
forehand's.
send me the link first please... |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 5 do u mean the matches between tsinghua and ymca?
i like to watch how myself beat 2100+ fernando chang?
u have not yet got a chance to return my backhand high toss serves.. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 6 u were mentioning many years ago when i just started to experience high toss
...
i never pratcised high toss serve alone, just used for practice matches, so
at the
first 4-5 years, it was hard, my toss was getting stable after 2006 or 07...
i started to add backhand high toss only after 08, still not consistent yet.
i think 3-5 meters are the best height to toss.
i have had over 15 types of serves,which i normally try out at the first 1-2
games until i find out the few serves which are most eff |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 7 for any guys below 2000, they would either miss the ball at all (just like
aces
in tennis, the racket totally missed touching the ball) or return too high.
think about the space is 3-dimensional, besides top/down, left side/
rightside spins,
we have screw spins, it is relatively easier to serve screw spin with high
toss.
just like slice serves in tennis.
i normally toss 3-6 meter high, forehand cross court, str8t line screw or
down spins,
backhand cross court, str8t line screw or down spins, whe |
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b****g
发帖数: 7311 | 8 How about Nimbus Soft? Is it good in backhand? |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 9 WMTT:
Your form is very good, i am not a good looper at all, just by
playing with u and Zhangtion, i feel if your looping is as
powerful as his, you could reach 2000 soon.
i don't know how you could improve your strength of loops, maybe
Junkywind can give u a hint? when u run from backhand to forehand
big corner, ur loop is strongest... maybe u should hit more instead
of spin more, 磨多打少 is good for strong underspin like my pushes,
but sometimes hit more is more deadly. |
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J********9
发帖数: 36508 | 10 我觉得跑大角的正手弧圈 一般都会比正常弧圈 转不少 哈哈
到底是打多 还是磨多
我觉得首先两个都得练练好 有的时候需要稳定 有的时候需要杀伤力 就看怎么平衡
我昨天跟一个没有分的 水平很一般 但是反手上旋球打的不错的球友练反手
对于他的冒高上旋球 我这个磨跟打就没平衡好 经常是飞掉出界
现在是一个困难时期 这种反手上旋 稍微高的 又想去弹 又想去打 但是往往还是磨…
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WMTT:
Your form is very good, i am not a good looper at all, just by
playing with u and Zhangtion, i feel if your looping is as
powerful as his, you could reach 2000 soon.
i don't know how you could improve your strength of loops, maybe
Junkywind can give u a hint? when u run from backhand to forehand
big corn |
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d**p
发帖数: 510 | 11 if u are a penholder, and could not learn how to backhand inverted
loop, i would encourage you to try my style, it worked for some
ppl, actually it is easier for this style to maintain its level
than 2 wing looper, when u get older, it is harder to keep your
looping skills as well as your peak level. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 12 congrat.s, looks like you should cont. to play icc tours to reach
1900 lah.
i even didn't see my own video.s, guess it was shot in 05, 5 years
ago, my game changed a lot:
i didn't play as aggressive as in my 30s, like to move back to
defense, like to slow down the point, play more consistently.
Serve wise, i toss less high, so more consistent, besides screw
spins, which was the main spin i started to serve high toss, i added
down spins to 2 short corners, also like backhand high toss serve
eithe |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 13 what u saw was 5 years ago, u need to stop by bay area to feel the real toss,
the backhand high toss is more challenging to penholders.. |
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l******r
发帖数: 3472 | 14 I don't know how to play George Copper. Forehand LP, backhand Antispin. He
just attacked almost my every serve. If I loop, then I can't handle his chop
return. Maybe I need more patience. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 15 he used DHS C8, of course LP, C7 is between Lp and short Pips.
his style is like AMy Zhong, except she used backhand smooth side looping
the first game i played with him, i got 11:0 by accident... |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 16 watch Liu Song playing world cup at
http://www.ittf.com/itTV/
he is using LP on his backhand, close to table, block, he is not
a chopper |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 17 just chatted with Liu Song, he is from Guangxi, he played penholder
a little bit when he was very young, then his coach asked him to
change to shakehand, but he could not learn how to loop well for
his backhand, so he changed to LPs.
He told me you can play well for every type of rubbers, as long as
u work hard.
But 2 side smooth rubbers are easiest to improve.
I believe professional player world is more boring since there are
not much variations, but in our amateur world, it is more fun to
play... 阅读全帖 |
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b****g
发帖数: 7311 | 18 hpzd offense is better than defense, from my point view. weakpoint : chop,
backhand. |
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b****g
发帖数: 7311 | 19 hpzd offense is better than defense, from my point view. weakpoint : chop,
backhand. |
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W**T
发帖数: 18996 | 20 1) you know we are good at Searching.....
2) not everyone is like Drake, cannot recolonize a person with a hat on.
I can tell a lot of you without even know what you look like;
play basketball, keep change your backhand rubber, changed from pen-holding
to shake hand, used to play usatt tournament but not anymore.
Remember the movie: Catch me if you can. It is all about pin stripes. I just
need to approach her like I know you for years. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 21 ur game is very solid and all-rounds, in ur level, ur backhand is
key to beat same level shakehands, that may be the reason i feel
u have better chance to beat a 2250 shakehand than a 2250 penholder.
In order to break ur career high, u need better core strength, so
that you would not easily get injured (i know u are a hard trainer)
also your forehand would be a lot more powerful.
There are a lot of good ways to improve your core strength, u can
easily google it.
P90X is one of the good choices! |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 22 over 95% Vietnamese players are shakehand if not more, but
they play like penholders, very strong forehand but weak
backhand, e.g. Han is one of them. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 23
backhand smooth rubber, u need to play more aggressive, loop more when
return, good example is Fernando Chang, he is coaching at Stanford.
also, u need better stamina to keep your level up. So run more! |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 24
i feel his backhand loop is not as good as Jiaqi's, maybe close to
James Guo's. |
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t****1
发帖数: 873 | 25 Just saw your reply. I am really confused by recent posts on this forum,
and feel like these posts are neither Chinese nor English.
I frankly don't have a clue on even one thing folks are talking about.
To block a slow and spiny loop on your backhand, a block with left-side spin
is very effective and not too difficult to do -- just apply a left side
spin when you block. (If you could move your paddle downwards, you can even
have a under-spin block.) To block a fast loop, you would need to be a... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 26
forum,
side spin
side
can even
able
if you
do.
me neither, just got back from a trip anyway..
do u add side spin when you return a short underspin serve?
i saw some great penholders like Li, Jiao, has no problem for her
backhand blocks against a good shakehand, sometimes even a lefty..
what is a good combination of rubber/racket for good blocks? |
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c********t
发帖数: 4527 | 27 Yes, we almost did 2 years just for basics 正反手攻. 中间有但时间, not much
progress.
Now shift two coaches, one is around 2500-2600 level while another one is
more like 2100-2200 level, we had good progress in the last couple months.
Now to a confusing stage, how are we going to train backhand (beside
blocking and punching). |
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c********t
发帖数: 4527 | 28 Let me be a little bit specific.
The question is not about inside table you deal with 反手侧拧 or not. It is
about the wrist movement like 反手侧拧, can it (or should it)be used in
backhand blocking, punching, even looping for underspin when the ball is
outside of the table.
traditional |
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v*******y
发帖数: 221 | 29 关键看球出台了没，
如果是没出台，有手腕动作，那应该是反手弹击，backhand flick/flip. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 30 looks like u are a good friends of Ken, how did u guys learn backhand
looping? |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 31 he reached 2200 by his consistency.. esp his backhand... |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 32
played
did u play him recently? can u see he is a solid 1900-2000 player?
he told me he would play in 2100-2200 within a few years:-)
BTW, he plays Wang Hao style, 100% backhand backside loop/defense. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 33
played
did u play him recently? can u see he is a solid 1900-2000 player?
he told me he would play in 2100-2200 within a few years:-)
BTW, he plays Wang Hao style, 100% backhand backside loop/defense. |
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u***t
发帖数: 3986 | 34 All Nittaku rubbers are like that - edges chipped off easily. Same thing
happened to all my Nittaku 日桌 rubbers including the newest Fastarc G1.
Try M2000 NX for your backhand, it may even elevate your game. |
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u***t
发帖数: 3986 | 35 JO Platin Soft? Of course. Nice rubber for backhand, crispy sound, good
speed and 1st leap. Surface isn't as tacky as Japanese those of japanese
rubbers so you may need some practice to get use to it.
Renanos Bright doesn't cost much - I don't remember.
At
couple |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 36 my high toss didn't work any more against him, my side spin push
didn't work either, my long fast serves neither.
but now i knew i had a chance if u could expose his weak backhand. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 37 So i came to 5th game with a lot of confidence, i could see he
started to get nervous, but he did play very hard, one point was
i served and attack to his far forehand corner when i saw he start
to step around to counter-attack,
i was surprised to see he moved to his forehand so fast to smash back
str8t line to my backhand, he won that point.
he led 5:4 to switch sides. |
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h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 38 To correct it, I meant his forehand...
For the backhand, it should be legender... |
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j******w
发帖数: 4429 | 39 is it his backhand "Ning"?
来， |
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c**l
发帖数: 9003 | 40 跳绳
跳哑铃
徒手
Meng Tien - Full time coach, ICC table tennis center
Meng Tian is a professional Table Tennis player from China, LiaoNing
provincial team. She masters both Penhold and Shakehand styles by
starting as a shakehand player then later switched to penhold to match
better with her teammates Wang Nan and Guo Yue. She has short pips on
her forehand for fast attacking and inverted rubber on her Reverse
Penholder backhand for fast looping.
Meng Tien also won 2010 U.S. Open Championship for women'... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 41 it becomes a fashion in bay area TT community... 2100 players N.Y., Terry
Tam etc
last night, i played at FC club, i was surprised to see Barry, a 2000 level
shakehand switched to penholder, he told me why?
1. There are more variations for penholder styles, uniqueness is part of
being fashionable.
2. Penholder backhand reverse looping is such an attractive skill, the men's
lead player is Wang Hao now, he is the most fashionable guy in TT world now.
Guys switched to penholder in order to learn th... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 42 i just asked him serve sometimes short to his opponent's forehand corner,
i never saw it happened, i realized maybe he could not do that from his
backhand side, so after
the match, i told him move to the middle of the table. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 43 if u had seen what a fight Lily had done against Zaman, whereas Zaman
beat Ariel 4:0 easily... you wouldn't have said that.
Lily right now is about 2500-2550 level, great backhand, if she
improves her forehand (footwork to cover more easily, plus more
power), she could reach 2600 soon. |
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j******w
发帖数: 4429 | 44 T64 used for backhand...
rich man ah..... A.J.H. (admire, jealous, hate).... |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 45 saw 2 videos with Bernie in the background, he is a 2100 level
looper, ex-Philipine nationall junior team member.
It is him who taught me how to loop, i had known him since 96,
never beat him until 07 when i used short pips on forehand,
and LPs on backhand.. guess my 2 times playing him were both won
by me, but my loop skill is far away from his. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 46 looks like u are a penholder, usually for long serves, u got to attack (loop
) first..
if u miss too muchattack, add a pip side on ur backhand and return using it.
.. |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 47 Hokieman: i could see you used to play penholder.
after u switched to shakehand, i didn't see your game took
advantage of being a shakehand, no hitting/looping from
backhand at all.
whereas maybe u lost some serve/serve return/short ball
advantage of being a penholder. |
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x****a
发帖数: 607 | 48 I like the play by Steger.
His backhand swing is beautiful. |
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u***t
发帖数: 3986 | 49 Except guo yue uses grip-s, almost everyone uses hurricane orskyline as
forehand rubber. Majority of backhand rubbers are T64 |
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c****1
发帖数: 5654 | 50 kenny changed to LP? when i played him, he was using short pips on his
backhand, he improved over 100 afterwards... |
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