m**********j
发帖数: 8645 | 1 还行吧。
另外俺一直这么跟小的们讲。砍下多少MSRP是一个指标。
但也要看你提的具体的那款车，有多少option是你根本不需要的但也装在那里了，有多
少option是你特别需要但没有的。
举个例子啊，有台ML350现车，dealer咬牙给了你20%off MSRP。听起来不错吧。
没有爬车协助、没有4MATIC Package、没有Lighting Package，没有P1 pkg。
加了Multicolor ambient lighting，加了Rear Seat Entertainment system，加了
Rear center-armrest pass-through，加了Sport Package Plus One。
你觉得这车对你自己家庭是好deal吗？ |
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s****a
发帖数: 74 | 3 最近跟一家dealer谈到最后，2013 mini cooper hardtop,
包括 auto transmission,
premium package(天窗加auto headlight)
再加一些小的配置如armrest.
MSRP 是23195
现在跟dealer讲到OTD 23000,不知道划算不划算？ 因为时间上来说2014的新的4月就出
了，dealer应该是想把2013的存货都卖出去。 |
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q*********0
发帖数: 773 | 4 我感觉座椅和中间的armrest都要比fusion宽很多呢？ |
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m***c
发帖数: 202 | 5 CRV真牛逼。那么丑，油耗大，视野差，Armrest cheap，Trunk 只能手动开。这些缺点
集合起来，还能卖第一。 |
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f*****h
发帖数: 4489 | 6 INCLUDED PACKAGES
EQUIPMENT GROUP 202A
ST2
ST3
Rear Armrest
HID Cornering Headlamps
Overhead Console
Heated Mirrors
Navigation
6 Way Power Driver Seat
WHEELS: 18" RADO GRAY ALLOY
Front & Rear Disc Brakes
ADDITIONAL OPTIONS
Front License Plate Bracket
Moonroof
ST2
Radio: Sony Audio System w/10 Speakers
Dual-Zone Electronic Automatic Temperature Control
SYNC Communications & Entertainment System
这个价钱可以接受吗 在网上注册了brochure 没收到福特750刀的rebate 只有一个贷款
的优惠 是因为ST就是没优惠吗 还是要再注册一个？
谢谢大家了 |
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r**********r
发帖数: 12 | 7 各位前辈好，
最近考虑买2014 Volkswagen Passat (1.8T)，向许多dealer quote了S的出门价，目前
得到的最低价是21060刀。我在NJ，州税是7%。
同学建议我再看看SE的feature。我开车是新手，买车的主要用途是上学和购物，长途
出行的机会应该不会太多。今天花了一上午时间做了一些功课，下面我列出SE可能优于
S的feature：
Chrome window trim
Chrome-tipped exhaust tip
Heated side mirrors with integrated turn signals
Heated windshield washer nozzles
17" Sonoma alloy wheels
17" all-season tires 215/55 R17 94H
Driver and passenger visor vanity mirrors,... 阅读全帖 |
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c******e
发帖数: 107 | 8 15年的好像没有那个ergo的Armrest了。 |
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n******e
发帖数: 699 | 9 Heated Front Seats 太重要了，欧LP 7点多就要去上班， 冬天太冷了。
Armrest无所谓。 |
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m***a
发帖数: 231 | 10 quote了一遍，谈了价格，现在是红色+premium pacake+自动挡+center armrest，MSRP
是25300，dealer给的otd是26687。请问板上的牛人们这个价格几多砍得余地？我在湾
区，9%的税。谢谢大家啊。 |
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s**u
发帖数: 105 | 11 还没决定要买，随便去truecar上看了看，结果附近一家还给了个价格：MRSP 30,310，
Offer 25,532配置如下，（略长见谅）；大家看看怎么样？我觉得还不错，是不是砍到
25K也就到头了？还有SE和SEL啥区别？L=加长么？（伸手党见谅）多谢
EXTERIOR
. 18" PAINTED ALUMINUM WHLS
. P235/55R18 A/S BSW TIRES
. AUTO PROJ BEAM HEADLAMPS
. RAISED POWER DOME HOOD
. LED TAILLAMPS
. SUPPLEMENTAL PARK LAMPS
. MIRRORS-MAN FOLD DUAL PWR HEATED WITH APPROACH LAMP
. INTEGRATED SPOTTER MIRRORS
. SECURICODE KEYLESS ENTRY
. QUASI-DUAL EXHAUST SYSTEM
. EXHAUST TIPS - CHROME
. DOOR HANDLES - BODY COLOR
. MINI SPARE TIRE/WHEE... 阅读全帖 |
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b***e
发帖数: 15201 | 13 虽然是小众车，不过可供有兴趣的朋友参考。
因为小众，所以dealer处现车很少，所以就选择了订做。email了附近60mile的5家
dealer. 告诉他们我需要订的车型+配置，求报价。
一天半之内有两家报价接近目标价位，砍了两轮。最终从了invoice - 500$的报价，出
门价33350$.(doc fee+tax = 940$).配置从简，只选了最必须的。
Subaru 2017 limited World Rally Blue with
1. Package 22(Navi+keyless+blind spot etc)
2. Sports short thrower shift
3. Autodim mirror with compass
4. Center armrest extension
商家说大约11月底才能提车，可能能提前到10月。
Email联络效率比在车商处现砍价好太多了。 |
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 14 【 以下文字转载自 Chicago 讨论区 】
发信人: amethystt (Keep your feet on the ground.), 信区: Chicago
标 题: 回国卖车 MINI Cooper
关键字: 车,卖车,car,sale
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 27 15:48:29 2016, 美东)
大家好， 本人近期回国 希望将心爱的mini cooper 托付给户好人家: )
以下是车子概况：
2014 MINI Cooper Hardtop 2-Door
Mileage: ~26,000 with Manufacture Warranty
Color: Pepper White
Features:
• Automatic transmission
• Customized interior seat and surface
• Heated mirrors and washer jets
• Comfort Access keyles... 阅读全帖 |
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P****i
发帖数: 1362 | 15 16款的，买了正好一年，跑了好几次dealer了。
买了没多久发现armrest console的蒙皮没粘牢翘了起来，然后又注意到副驾驶车门比
前挡板往外错出一截，去修了一次。
等到花儿也谢了的SYNC3 v2.2终于出了，特地买了个32G U盘按说明试了几次都升级不
了，又跑了一次。
刚开回来没两天全景天窗前面活动那扇无缘无故就裂开几条大缝，这期间除了跑了两趟
机场大部分时间都停在车库里，没看到任何碰撞的痕迹，网上不少人汇报过15,16款类
似的情况，dealer报给福特后给换了一块。
今天挂倒挡车又剧烈震动，似乎是从车轮处传来的震动，只好又预约了一个
appointment...
还是Camry可靠，开了6年，正常维护之外就做过一次alignment |
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k*********s
发帖数: 4474 | 16 金牛不是midsize，换了小号车暂时不习惯而已 |
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r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 17 老金牛是mid 08年后才换成full size
话说再买个taurus呗 |
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i**********0
发帖数: 10 | 18 1. swivel chair for $5
2. swivel chair (with armrests) for $20
3. ikea sofa for free
站内联系。 |
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f******r
发帖数: 2136 | 19 我就是想换整个座套中的一部分，就是2个armrest
另外paypal的裁决里说了，要我付运费，卖家肯定也知道了 |
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b*******g
发帖数: 131 | 20 【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】
发信人: budaoweng (不倒翁||人为什么不是卵生), 信区: Automobile
标 题: 问一个二手车价格[mini cooper]
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 2 14:05:27 2011, 美东)
mini cooper hardtop 09
15K miles
automatic
sport seats
sunroof
ipod usb connector
center armrest
还在三年的保修期内，包含免费的维护，可以续
该卖多少钱呢？
谢谢 |
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b*******g
发帖数: 131 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 Automobile 讨论区 】
发信人: budaoweng (不倒翁||人为什么不是卵生), 信区: Automobile
标 题: 问一个二手车价格[mini cooper]
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 2 14:05:27 2011, 美东)
mini cooper hardtop 09
15K miles
automatic
sport seats
sunroof
ipod usb connector
center armrest
还在三年的保修期内，包含免费的维护，可以续
该卖多少钱呢？
谢谢 |
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e*e
发帖数: 6808 | 22 问一下
如果带一大一小两个回国
是bassinet重要，还是armrest可以lift up重要呐？
爹俩
一次
的很 |
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C*****d
发帖数: 2253 | 23 By Eric Moskowitz, Globe Staff
The 26-year-old Chinese entrepreneur had just pulled his new Mercedes to the
curb on Brighton Avenue to answer a text when an old sedan swerved behind
him, slamming on the brakes. A man in dark clothes got out and approached
the passenger window. It was nearly 11 p.m. last Thursday.
The man rapped on the glass, speaking quickly. Danny, unable to hear him,
lowered the window -- and the man reached an arm through, unlocked the door,
and climbed in, brandishing a silv... 阅读全帖 |
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k**********4
发帖数: 16092 | 24 周末去买 if it is worth the money
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&csDlI
About This 2011 Infiniti EX35
Mileage: 13,051
Body Style: SUV
Exterior Color: Moonlight White Pear...
Interior Color: Wheat
Stock #: 61632B
VIN: JN1AJ0HP3BM801653
Fuel: Gasoline
Engine: 3.5L V6 24V MPFI DOHC
Transmission: 7-Speed Automatic
Drivetrain: RWD
Doors: 4
Wheelbase: 110"
CARFAX 1-Owner Vehicle
View Free Report
Features:
4-Wheel Disc Brakes
ABS Brakes
Adjustable Steering Wheel
Air Conditioning
... 阅读全帖 |
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m***y
发帖数: 22 | 25 2007 CAMRY LE(BLACK) Leather Seat(Medium Grey),
Five-Speed AUTO, 2.4L; 50K miles
1st Owner, Good maintance(regluar+5K etc)
Kelly Blue Book, http://www.kbb.com/, says $13,000+ with "Good" Condition.
PRICE, OBO
Location: NW Sub
Serious inquirer only. PM here please.
Picture will be uploaded soon.
________________________________________________________
Sepecification, 2007 Camry
Colors
Exterior, BLACK
Interior, Light GREY
Exterior
Tires and Wheels
Steel wheels
16 x 6.5 in. wheels
Steel spare wheel... 阅读全帖 |
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a*******t
发帖数: 9 | 26 大家好， 本人近期回国 希望将心爱的mini cooper 托付给户好人家: )
以下是车子概况：
2014 MINI Cooper Hardtop 2-Door
Mileage: ~26,000 with Manufacture Warranty
Color: Pepper White
Features:
• Automatic transmission
• Customized interior seat and surface
• Heated mirrors and washer jets
• Comfort Access keyless entry
• Center armrest
• Sports seats
• Color Line Dark Truffle
• MINI Excitement Package
• MINI Driving Modes
• LED... 阅读全帖 |
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f****n
发帖数: 84 | 27 前一段时间准备买Mini， 最近拿到的quote，请大家指点怎么砍价，谢谢啦。
Option 1：
2012 Hardtop（MSRP19500）. Auto transmission, white bonnet stripes, center
armrest, destination fee.
+ tax
+ registration, documentation
=23715 OTD
可以拿到的rebate
- 750 voucher
- 500? (college rebate, 很可能从这个dealer拿不到）
-->22955
Option2：
2012 Hardtop(MSRP) 19500， auto transmission,blueteeth,armest,
destinamtion fee
+tax
+registration, documentation
=23623
- 750 voucher
--> 22 873
感觉价格都不下来， 有没有在南加最近买Mini的分享下经验？
多谢了 |
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pl
发帖数: 183 | 28 $60 or OBO.
Dinning Table with 6 chairs with armrest and wheels. One leaf included. The
picture is with the leaf. |
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p**********u
发帖数: 15479 | 29 When the ordeal had started, Danny prayed it would be a quick robbery.
Tamerlan demanded money, but Danny had just $45 in cash -- kept in the
armrest -- and a wallet full of plastic. Evidently disappointed to get so
little out of holding up a $50,000 car, he told Danny to drive. The old
sedan followed. |
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d*******0
发帖数: 573 | 30 买了2，3年，因为还有一个，这个只是偶尔用几次，8，9成新，干净，颜色是深蓝/浅
蓝。具体参数如下：
The Ventura High-Back Booster Car Seat by Safety 1st features a 5-point
harness with an up-front adjustment making it easy to give your child the
best fit. The car seat can be used as a forward-facing booster or belt-
positioning harness. With great features like an intergrated head pillow,
padded armrests and a removable cup holder, this 2-tone colored booster car
seat makes every ride a comfortable one.
Product Features:
Forward-facing with ha... 阅读全帖 |
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T********e
发帖数: 8631 | 32 I'm green, but not that green. Really wish I could dig a hole behind the
armrest for a skis pass through. But not sure if there's a metal plate
behind the cover. |
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C***8
发帖数: 374 | 33 Year: 2005
Make: ACURA
Model: TSX
Vehicle Class: COMPACT CARS
Engine Size: 2.4 liters
Number of Cylinders: 4 Cyl
Transmission: Automatic
Drive System: F
Valves per Cylinder: 4
Fuel Type: Plus(87) or PREMIUM(91)
Four Door Interior Volume: 91 ft3
Four Door Luggage Volume: 13 ft3
Transmission: 2MODE CLKUP
Price: $11,500
Year: 2005
Make: ACURA
Mileage: 81,460 miles
VIN: JH4CL96905C026424
Engine: 4 Cyl
Engine Size: 2.4 liters
Transmission: Automatic
Drive: 2WD
Body: Sedan
Exterior Color: Gray
Fuel: G... 阅读全帖 |
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f****r
发帖数: 997 | 34 方便一下对参数头晕的人，翻译过来,删掉一些没用的：
Exterior （外饰）
Body
Chrome grille
镀铬前进气板
Tires and Wheels
Polished alloy wheels
18 in. wheels
已经升级成18寸镀铬合金轮毂
Steel spare wheel
钢制备用轮毂/胎
P225/55R18 tires
All season tires
轮胎尺寸，全季节胎
Rear defogger
后视镜和后窗电加热
Measurements （尺寸，轮距，轴距等）
Width: 74.5 in.
Height: 61.5 in.
Length: 201.8 in.
Front track: 64.3 in.
Rear track: 64.4 in.
Wheel base: 112.9 in.
Cargo capacity, all seats in place: 21.2 cu.ft.
后备箱容量，所有座椅保持原位，约600L，是sedan里面最大的
Maximum towing capacity: 1000 lbs.**
拖曳1000lbs，估计... 阅读全帖 |
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i**********0
发帖数: 10 | 35 1. swivel chair for $5
2. swivel chair (with armrests) for $20
3. ikea sofa for free
站内联系。 |
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i**********0
发帖数: 10 | 36 1. swivel chair for $5
2. swivel chair (with armrests) for $10
3. ikea sofa for free
站内联系or call 8583574931 |
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s****y
发帖数: 51 | 37 2002 Ford Taurus SES LOW Miles!Mint Condition.
VIN:1FAFP55292A260963
I have kept it in Garage all the time and always change Engine Oil and do
all the required maintenance on time. I just changed the new Tires and
Battery at Costco and it runs like new!
Vehicle Options
Air Conditioning, Power Door Locks, Power Windows, Center Armrest, Split
Bench Seat, Tachometer, Power Outlet, Cup Holder, Rear Defroster, Alloy
Wheels, Power Driver's Seat, Power Mirrors, Cloth Seats, CD Player, AM/FM
Radio, Tilt |
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s****y
发帖数: 51 | 38 2002 Ford Taurus SES LOW Miles!Mint Condition.
VIN:1FAFP55292A260963
I have kept it in Garage all the time and always change Engine Oil and do
all the required maintenance on time. I just changed the new Tires and
Battery at Costco and it runs like new!
Vehicle Options
Air Conditioning, Power Door Locks, Power Windows, Center Armrest, Split
Bench Seat, Tachometer, Power Outlet, Cup Holder, Rear Defroster, Alloy
Wheels, Power Driver's Seat, Power Mirrors, Cloth Seats, CD Player, AM/FM
Radio, Tilt |
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s**********e
发帖数: 173 | 39 2008 KIA OPTIMA EX V6 2.7L 29500Miles 15000刀。
有兴趣站内信联系
当年买车的资料如下
VEHICLE INFORMATION
Stock#: K18155
Year: 2008
Make: KIA
Model: OPTIMA
Body: EX
Miles: 10
VIN: KNAGE1242852304xx
MSRP: $22,104
ExtColor: Ruby Red
STANDARD FEATURES:
110 amp alternator
600 amp battery with run down protection
Front-wheel drive
Front strut suspension
Front anti-roll bar
Coil front springs
Gas-pressurized front shocks
Multi-link rear suspension
Rear anti-roll bar
Coil rear... 阅读全帖 |
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d********0
发帖数: 25 | 40 4 draw chest $70/$100
Product dimensions
Width: 31 1/2 "
Depth: 18 7/8 "
Height: 39 3/8 "
Width: 80 cm
Depth: 48 cm
Height: 100 cm
Product description
Drawer side/ Drawer back: Particleboard, Foil
Drawer bottom: Fiberboard, Acrylic paint
Partition/ Support rail, back: Particleboard
Back: Fiberboard
Drawer front/ Side panel/ Rail: Particleboard, Birch veneer, Clear acrylic
lacquer
Top panel: Particleboard, Birch veneer, Clear acrylic lacquer, Birch veneer
Table and 4 chairs $120/$179
Good to k... 阅读全帖 |
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d********0
发帖数: 25 | 41 please contact mike @310-776-5186 or f*************[email protected]
4 draw chest $60
Product dimensions
Width: 31 1/2 "
Depth: 18 7/8 "
Height: 39 3/8 "
Width: 80 cm
Depth: 48 cm
Height: 100 cm
Product description
Drawer side/ Drawer back: Particleboard, Foil
Drawer bottom: Fiberboard, Acrylic paint
Partition/ Support rail, back: Particleboard
Back: Fiberboard
Drawer front/ Side panel/ Rail: Particleboard, Birch veneer, Clear acrylic
lacquer
Top panel: Particleboard, Birch veneer, Clear acrylic lacq... 阅读全帖 |
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d********0
发帖数: 25 | 42 thanks for your suggestion. how to post pictures? thx
please contact mike @310-776-5186 or f*************[email protected]
4 draw chest $70
Product dimensions
Width: 31 1/2 "
Depth: 18 7/8 "
Height: 39 3/8 "
Width: 80 cm
Depth: 48 cm
Height: 100 cm
Product description
Drawer side/ Drawer back: Particleboard, Foil
Drawer bottom: Fiberboard, Acrylic paint
Partition/ Support rail, back: Particleboard
Back: Fiberboard
Drawer front/ Side panel/ Rail: Particleboard, Birch veneer, Clear acrylic
lacquer
Top ... 阅读全帖 |
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N*********r
发帖数: 1190 | 43 不会失去平衡，我还就喜欢有armrest和shootingrail的treestand. 这次没拍，录像还
是10yard or less效果好些，这次20yard左右 |
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N*********r
发帖数: 1190 | 44 自从把treestand (climing stick + hang-on treestand with armrest)从射到一头大
母鹿的地方换到这个open field和林子的结合部已经两周，第一天拿下一头后，就再也
没了运气，累积十个小时在树上，除了有一次一个hunter在距离我不到50yard处上树后
拿下一头之外，我连鹿的影子都没见着。可是这里毕竟是我靠鹿脚印观察出来的好地方
，那就继续坚持。
周六大风吹大树，红黄绿色的树叶在风中闪烁，三点半上树。狐狸来，松鼠闹，直到六
点半天色渐黑，还是没有鹿，我站起来，伸展伸展，高山流水，尿泡尿。 风渐渐消去
，这里的黄昏静悄悄。 也不知怎么地，觉得左下有个动静，很小，低头一看，哇，一
头公鹿，居然摸到了我的树下，已经在离我的树不到三米的地方，在闻我不久的刚才高
山流水流过的灌木，推开crossbow保险，慢慢调整好姿势，可是这头鹿硬是在我脚下晃
悠了三五分钟，太近了，没法射，终于等到她离去，可是这厮居然闻完了就径直离去，
给我个屁股，我赶紧呃呃地叫了两声，他停下转身回头看，就那么两秒钟，45度角后
shoulder blade后一点点... 阅读全帖 |
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N*********r
发帖数: 1190 | 45 爱的代价-2014续篇
"那一刻我躺在在柔软的山坡，看见黄叶漫天飘落，可爱的她不舍的呢喃，烦躁的他迟
疑的脚步,终于我不再眷顾，一切在美好中永驻。"
对一个deer hunter, 11月是最美最忙的。不是说11/11是光棍节吗？怎么我看上去"11/
11"像一对情人走在日出前的树林，还有月光投下他们干练的影子？
6:48am日出，也就是6:18am天亮，legal shooting hour开始。5:30我慢慢的走进寂静
的林子，可以有靴子踩树叶的声音，但是不碰到一个树枝，碰断树枝的声音要远大于脚
步声传播的距离。
上三次在这片林子中坐大树，两次看见一只公鹿从距离我60米的地方慢慢走过，他对我
的call和decoy都不做反应，所以无法把我的GrimReaper broadhead送进他的心房。猎
人要有耐心忍耐，猎人要有观察力，猎人要有行动力。于是昨晚天黑后，我把
treestand挪到了大约他走过的地方，climbing stick + hanging treestand with
armrest, 一阵折腾，一个小时黑暗里setup好。
5:40在树上坐好，看看换了视角后的这片... 阅读全帖 |
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N*********r
发帖数: 1190 | 46 爱的代价-2014续篇
"那一刻我躺在在柔软的山坡，看见黄叶漫天飘落，可爱的她不舍的呢喃，烦躁的他迟
疑的脚步,终于我不再眷顾，一切在美好中永驻。"
对一个deer hunter, 11月是最美最忙的。不是说11/11是光棍节吗？怎么我看上去"11/
11"像一对情人走在日出前的树林，还有月光投下他们干练的影子？
6:48am日出，也就是6:18am天亮，legal shooting hour开始。5:30我慢慢的走进寂静
的林子，可以有靴子踩树叶的声音，但是不碰到一个树枝，碰断树枝的声音要远大于脚
步声传播的距离。
上三次在这片林子中坐大树，两次看见一只公鹿从距离我60米的地方慢慢走过，他对我
的call和decoy都不做反应，所以无法把我的GrimReaper broadhead送进他的心房。猎
人要有耐心忍耐，猎人要有观察力，猎人要有行动力。于是昨晚天黑后，我把
treestand挪到了大约他走过的地方，climbing stick + hanging treestand with
armrest, 一阵折腾，一个小时黑暗里setup好。
5:40在树上坐好，看看换了视角后的这片... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3430 | 47 前些时 ORD-IAH 碰一老中7E 我在7F，上来直接霸俩armrest，睡着了往别人身上靠，
脚直接伸到前面bulkhead的direct TV的屏幕上挂着
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发帖数: 1336 | 49 The Herman Miller Embody Chair
designed by Bill Stumpf and Jeff Weber
Herman Miller Embody ChairAt A Glance:
The Embody Chair is the world's first health positive chair. Sitting in this
baby will actually improve the health of your back and spine, make you more
comfortable, and support every part of your body. Not bad for an office
chair. Designed by Bill Stumpf and Jeff Weber, this chair is the current
gold standard in the ergonomic furniture world.
What's To Like:
The first thing you notice ab... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 16666 | 50 【 以下文字转载自 GunsAndGears 讨论区 】
发信人: NightRunner (子夜狂奔), 信区: GunsAndGears
标 题: 爱的代价--2014续篇
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 17 14:05:33 2014, 美东)
爱的代价-2014续篇
"那一刻我躺在在柔软的山坡，看见黄叶漫天飘落，可爱的她不舍的呢喃，烦躁的他迟
疑的脚步,终于我不再眷顾，一切在美好中永驻。"
对一个deer hunter, 11月是最美最忙的。不是说11/11是光棍节吗？怎么我看上去"11/
11"像一对情人走在日出前的树林，还有月光投下他们干练的影子？
6:48am日出，也就是6:18am天亮，legal shooting hour开始。5:30我慢慢的走进寂静
的林子，可以有靴子踩树叶的声音，但是不碰到一个树枝，碰断树枝的声音要远大于脚
步声传播的距离。
上三次在这片林子中坐大树，两次看见一只公鹿从距离我60米的地方慢慢走过，他对我
的call和decoy都不做反应，所以无法把我的GrimReaper broadhead送进他的心房。猎
人要有耐心忍耐，猎... 阅读全帖 |
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