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发帖数: 10701 | 1 看到你了，想到了我当年.....hahaha...
hybrid
fill
TP |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 2 that is very true!
normally, i like to use 距离 to 找球
say, if i hit my 3woods and the ball went to disappear, i would go 200 yards
away from where i hit and search around there.
my tip: know your distance, and then search the ball. if your drive ball
away, dont search it 300 yards away, you are not going to find. |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 3 saw dustin johnson drove the #15 green using 3wood!!! yardage sign 370 or so
?
later on the commentators said only "requires 260 carry, dustin can reach it
using 3iron".
sunol palm course #6, 309 par4, dog leg right. i hit 3 shots yeterday. the
3rd shot is the most solid and cut the corner. i remember the direction of
the ball flight. but i could not find the ball no matter how i follow the
direction of ball flight. back home check google map, only 220meter tee to
green. i tend to believe i ... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 4 it is a dog-leg right. everyone chose to drive to the green at ryder cup
play.
for that hole, you are still ok if over drive a tiny bit, but you can not
afford to hit it shot. without the wind conditions, i guess dustin made the
right choice to use 3woods.
so
it
the
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 5 it depends on how you other clubs and club's distance.
the goal is to even out the gap in terms of distance, and optimize the
choice around the green. (please note,
it is not to maximize all the choice, since more choice might not be good
for someone who doesnt like have
too many choice)
if you think you dont need much longer clubs in your bag, you can save one
for 4 wedge setup, as long as
you dont have distance gap for your long clubs.
if you can not spare extra club from long clubs, you could... 阅读全帖 |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 6 It's great to hear your drive + 3wood + 21 degree hybrid can cover almost
all the long shots. I thought that was the way I should but it doesn't work
out with me. I need two more clubs to cover the distances over 180 yards. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 7 cinnabar hills golf, canyon #9 555 yards, two on. isn't that good enough
reason to carry 3wood in bag?
comparing
ball
which
more |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 8 3wood, go for the middle of green, draw or fade according to the wind.
those are my favorite holes. |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 9 以前打出过好球， 找回来稍微容易一些。 当然以前打的“好”的时候， 感觉也不是
很明确。
从 SWING PATH 和 LAUNCH ANGLE 着手。 慢动作体会关节的动作。
不过一次性不容易求解， 因为 STUCK . 过一段时间， 脑子清醒性情平静容易。
最近一个SESSION DRIVER/FW/HYBRID 都打出高飞远。
DRIVER 有飞行出RANGE, 估计 260 多的CARRY.
又MIX 了一些IRON, 试图统一SWING. 效果也不错。 当然还需要重复测试和巩固。
我的问题是 HAND TOO ACTIVE.
其实TORSO & CORE 是支架和引擎， arm CONNECTED TO BODY， SET UP A TRACK FOR
THE SWING. HAND PASSIVE 以后就好很多了。 路线也比较直。 DRIVER choke down
2-3 INCH, 短了一些， 但是路线跟准， 可以代替3WOOD 开球。 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 10 great ball stiking!
callippe has two 2 par 5 in front 9, one 500 yard or so,
another 540 yard or so from blue T to front green. slight uphill, takes 2
great shots to 2on.
last summer i had a good chance to 2on 540 par 5 #9. 250 or so left 2nd
shot, tee shot just short of the dry creek. but my 3wood is not nearly as good as yours.
summer time the wind could be downwind @ #9.
greens are large and sloped, i never recall a good putting round there. except two lucky long putts made . much harder g... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 11 with roll, actually, i never know my carry distance.
the number i listed is the total yards. carry + roll.
namely, if you are ### yards away from green/pin, what club you would use.
normal condition, if i am 210 yards away from green/pin, i would reach my
3wood |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 12 I enjoy long course more since i can take advantage of length. my shot
dispersion for my hyrbrid/3wood is about the same my short irons, but better
than my 5/6 irons. so, playing from 190 away from green would be better
then 150 from the way, and it is about the same of 110 from the green. that
is betting against myself.
if betting against others, i know others are good at short games, so i have
to make up the different in the long game. especially i suffer a lot on the
green, if we all reach th... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********e
发帖数: 459 | 13 自己挥driver的状态不稳定，有些洞的fairway前面比较open，就上8.5的driver，有些
fairway比较窄，又不想用3wood，就考虑用11的driver |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 14 haha,
rarely used club in my bag 5iron, 9iron
frequently used club in my bag: Putter, Driver, 56degree, P
i am on Phil's side. if i carry two driver, i would pick one out of 3wood
and 3hybrid.
drivers |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 15 这个洞我打过好几回，好象只PAR过一次还是两次，没有BIRDIE过
我一般用3WOOD，要是没风，有时试试3H
TYPICAL OUTCOME是，球LAND在GREEN上，ROLL到后面，3PUTT回来
当然这是好的时候，不好的时候拉左，进BUNKER，或者丢球
记忆中的一次PAR，是3H，球在PIN HIGH的ROUGH，一切一推，再有一次就是GIR, 离洞
不是很远，求BIRDIE心切，结果两PUTT了
这个洞下午打的时候，由于有顶风，会比实际距离要远
用6IRON，我是想都不敢想
right side turns out to be the right strategy at this hole.
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 16 这周末上场，被分到两壮汉一组。其中一哥们特有意思，打球好几年，不会用driver，
3号木不用tee直接开，弹道低，直，远。每次开球前喝几口啤酒，开完球长叹一声“爽
啊``”
有个320码的狗腿洞，从开球区左边的树林边隐隐绰绰能看到果岭前缘，两哥们合计着
直接攻，看着球像是飞到下一个场地了，下去一找，一个在果岭前，一个在果岭右侧长
草。用3wood那位比用driver的还远些。
跟他们同组实在是压力大啊，当然这哥们short game糙得很，就刚才那洞，chipping
三次才上果岭。另一个三杆洞，球场把白tee移到了红tee一起，这可怜的孩子在球包里
楞找不出一根可以打的杆。Anyway，人家就是来体会fairway比driver打得远的快感的
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 17 这个周末又要降温了，不知还有几场球可打。
近来版子没什么人气，大家都在准备过节了吗？ 我来抛砖引玉，讲讲近期的体会和想
法，大家只管砸。
上次新人报到时期（这个夏天）主要纠结在距离的问题，一方面是中长距离没有cover
，还有就是铁杆达不到业余平均水平。
中长距离的问题通过设备升级解决了一部分，尤其是混杆，品牌的确实和starter set
不能比，原来的shift是iron，太硬了对我而言，而且短，角度大，距离上没有贡献。
铁杆的问题也在改进中，至少觉得方向是对的。上次提到的高台开球三杆洞，164yard
，现在用7iron可以直接上了，打得好的话。这周进一步体会动作，感觉距离应该还有
上涨空间，当然更重要的是稳定性。
新的问题随之发生：新的driver和3 wood，用来开球很不稳定，试了不少细节调整，比
如改grip，站位，等等，还是失灵时不灵，结果就是当铁杆好的时候，丢分都在开球和
3、4混杆上了。开球好时，转身和重心转移不够，铁杆不是topping就是兜，总成绩还
是老样子，甚至还有下降。心理也是个问题，太想打好，几个好球下来必有一洞狂掉链
子。
值得欣喜的是，基本还能比较快... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 18 一度球打不起来。
终于把那套yard sale 买来的无名iron set换了 (把 5wood, 3 wood trade in 弄来的）
10多年前的 titlist dci 981, iron shot 打出应有的launch angle容易多了。
http://www.titleist.com/historical_clubs/details.asp?id=10
才意识到设备对动作的影响很大。 旧的iron set 强迫我use flatter swing. 难怪打
出ridiculous distance， tend to fly lower.
很久没上场地了， score 提高不清楚。 pro shop 外around green 的 pitch/chip/putt
还算满意。
hybrid 准备 trade in 了. dci 981 4iron 有carry 上 218yard green, 6iron 190
左右， launch angle 我还满意， hybrid 没多价值。
还要在搞一个好打击的 3wood， driver shaft 断了 （out of... 阅读全帖 |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 19 就在昨天，一个寒风习习落叶萧萧的秋日午后，我那几十载波澜不惊的人生终于迎来了
第一只小鸟，而且一来就是两只。一个在Handicap 1的四杆洞，一个在handicap 18的
三杆洞。
三杆洞的鸟是早就盼着的，只要开杆上果岭，总有机会不是。但这次是个果岭边的chip
in，算是意外之喜。
第四洞355码的四杆洞是最难的一个，两边都是密林子，右边大陡坡，fireway窄。果岭
在半坡上。对我而言，要完美的两杆才可能上。3wood开球slice，从坡上弹了一下，落
在Fireway一片裸露的硬泥地上，GPS显示还有180多，加上上坡，明显是我任何一根杆
子都reach不了的。带着layup的轻松用3hybird挥了一杆，眼见着奔果岭前的坡脚去了
。把cart停到果岭边，下去找球，看洞的正前方16feet处有个白球。第一反映是前边的
人太大意了，果岭上的球也不捡，回头一想不至于啊。上去一看，自己的球。大概是弹
道低，前冲大，从坡下一路连滚带爬上来的。仔细看线，推进了。这个洞我一向的希望
就是不罚杆，bogey，结果三杆累积的lucky整出个鸟来。可惜这个球在下一洞开球就直
接打飞了，应该当时... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 20 看来你稳定的标准高一些。 3wood 差20吗不丢球都很好了。
我把我的woods 都淘汰了， 目前 10.5 cobra F speed regular flex.
在店里LM 上打出 302 yard.
但是在range 还没有那么好的结果。
还是是不是陷入hook. 但是感觉对我明确swing path 帮助大一些。 |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 21 就在昨天，一个寒风习习落叶萧萧的秋日午后，我那几十载波澜不惊的人生终于迎来了
第一只小鸟，而且一来就是两只。一个在Handicap 1的四杆洞，一个在handicap 18的
三杆洞。
三杆洞的鸟是早就盼着的，只要开杆上果岭，总有机会不是。但这次是个果岭边的chip
in，算是意外之喜。
第四洞355码的四杆洞是最难的一个，两边都是密林子，右边大陡坡，fireway窄。果岭
在半坡上。对我而言，要完美的两杆才可能上。3wood开球slice，从坡上弹了一下，落
在Fireway一片裸露的硬泥地上，GPS显示还有180多，加上上坡，明显是我任何一根杆
子都reach不了的。带着layup的轻松用3hybird挥了一杆，眼见着奔果岭前的坡脚去了
。把cart停到果岭边，下去找球，看洞的正前方16feet处有个白球。第一反映是前边的
人太大意了，果岭上的球也不捡，回头一想不至于啊。上去一看，自己的球。大概是弹
道低，前冲大，从坡下一路连滚带爬上来的。仔细看线，推进了。这个洞我一向的希望
就是不罚杆，bogey，结果三杆累积的lucky整出个鸟来。可惜这个球在下一洞开球就直
接打飞了，应该当时... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 22 看来你稳定的标准高一些。 3wood 差20吗不丢球都很好了。
我把我的woods 都淘汰了， 目前 10.5 cobra F speed regular flex.
在店里LM 上打出 302 yard.
但是在range 还没有那么好的结果。
还是是不是陷入hook. 但是感觉对我明确swing path 帮助大一些。 |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 23 我就是用的Cobra，Driver，3wood加3h，4h。没和其他的牌子比过，就觉得杆子越短越
顺手，哈哈。
Local的golf shop服务实在不咋样，似乎总觉得只有老头是潜在顾客，像我这样的，一
定是乱逛。搞得我没有在店里多待的兴趣。不过俺确实主要在网上买杆子就是了。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 24 During summer time, I had few rounds with 2-on par5, maybe around 5 attempts
total. but none of them I putt well (none of those were close to the pin
anyway).
Now, i think my putting is getting better. But winter is here. no 2-on for a
while. I dont know it is because the courses I played getting harder and
harder, the course is getting longer and longer or winter made my shots go
shorter and shorter.
Last week, the course I played was designed by Greg Norman, #17 par4 445, #
18 par5 457, none o... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 25 在short par4 搏eagle 的概率大一些。
打white tee概率大一些。
max out driver或3wood 的概率差不多， 比如说3%
2on par5 = 3% * 3% << 1%
1on short par4 = 3%
try san ramon #3， although the tree sometimes get in the way a bit.
white tee should be easier. 260 -270.
also try diablo hills #9 310, with elevation drop and ocassional tail
wind, on green is not that hard. this is low rating course, only
worthy of your practice. but it is great finishing hole of 9 holes.
attempts
pin
for
a
and
shots go
445, #
par5,
598
driving |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 26 to me,
putter is must, down to 3
greenside, rough or bunker all need SW to save, down to 2
a mid-iron down to 1
driver, 3woods or 3hybrid depends on course length. |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 27 那不是和3wood在fairway上打一样？应该平均270才合理。 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 28 you definitely have talent with ball striking. know error is first step, fix
it is another story.
现在觉得driver 都还好对付一些。
3wood mishit 对我来说简直是cancer tumor。
Check your ball flights, you would know where went wrong with your swing. |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 29 看youtube 上 what's in the bag, luke 说他的3wood carry 250. 给他10球， 他10
次都能carry那么多。 距离足够了。
不够那些能drive 330的， tiger， rory, phil, etc. short game 也很好， iron 也
很好。 luke 没有优势。 win major 需要：
1） 运气特好, 这往往都是黑马出头。 luke 现在不是黑马了。
2） ball striking 特别牛逼， 想tiger， Rory long/short game 都明显有优势。 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 30 how's your driver and 3wood play recently? |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 31 "I keep hitting the
ground first before hitting the ball"
shoulder turn may be too early/quick during downswing, try to delay
shoulder turn. 3wood swing requires more slightly more
aggressive/athletic move, so when you return to iron, you may still in aggressive mode, which may translates to quicker turn.
use a couple of practice swing to brush brass before iron shot. use 3/4
swing. these should help to prevent your error to some degree.
axis of downswing arc is the left side of body ( left f... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 32 I bought my 3woods from one online store.
After I hit it 2-3 times, the shaft was broken. I disputed it with the store
. they didnt want it back, i guess that might cost more for them to get it
back.
So, i picked a very good shaft (high price) at Golfsmith, re-shaft it. Turn
out, that is the best club in my bag. I feel more confident with it to play
210 par3 than playing a 145 par3 with my iron.
you never know, you might turn the lemon into lemonate. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 33 yes, now I rarely want to tee the ball high. I think 250 is a good distance
on blue tee we usually play. Drive 250 + 3woods 210 pretty much cover all
the long par4s
when you drive 300, you should make a picture of that analysis :) |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 34 我以前买3wood的手机照片， 尽然是同一个系统。
其中最后那个“296 yard" 是用15degree callaway big bertha fusion aldilda
regular， tee up. 就是因为看到这个数值， 要了。
103mph 的swing speed， 273 carry 不可能。
刚开始那些 80多的swing speed 也是我大的， 我觉得难以相信，没觉得前后发力有多
大区别。 我的动作在调整中。 maybe 后面的球打的release 好一些。
distance |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 36 yes, now I rarely want to tee the ball high. I think 250 is a good distance
on blue tee we usually play. Drive 250 + 3woods 210 pretty much cover all
the long par4s
when you drive 300, you should make a picture of that analysis :) |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 37 我以前买3wood的手机照片， 尽然是同一个系统。
其中最后那个“296 yard" 是用15degree callaway big bertha fusion aldilda
regular， tee up. 就是因为看到这个数值， 要了。
103mph 的swing speed， 273 carry 不可能。
刚开始那些 80多的swing speed 也是我大的， 我觉得难以相信，没觉得前后发力有多
大区别。 我的动作在调整中。 maybe 后面的球打的release 好一些。
distance |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 39 I was trying Titleist Driver, 9.5
yes, 250-260 is about my normal driving distance on course.
Turn out, that is more than enough for our amature weekend golfers.
Playing from Blue, 250/260 + 200(3woods/3Hybrid) easily cover the longest
par4, with some luck, easily 2-on for short par5.
my own driver is 10.5, but i de-loft it to around low ten. |
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a***x
发帖数: 398 | 40 Louis 在加时的第十洞，看Bubba开球进人群，用3WOOD打保守球，结果撞树，剩下231
码，自己给自己挖坑。连着两次在比赛最后没顶住。可惜。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 41 i kinda like his 3woods choice. knowing Bubba's shot was in woods, and Bubba
might need one shot to pitch out. Oost.. would be ok to play save, use 3
woods to put ball on the fairway, and safely 2 on for par. He was just
unlucky.
Oost.. played save for the whole day, it was a tough to tee off after the
biggest hitter on tour hole by hole :)
think of our weekend outing. If you have a long hitter buddy, and he almost
out-drive you every hole, what do you feel.
and what do you feel when you see fin... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 42 interesting.
last time i tested my 3wood at LM, got some high 80 and low 100 mph within 5
min period.
i was wondering how it could differ so much, because i did not feel the time
i complete a swing differed much, or the pulling force by the club differed
so much.
Guess it is THE RELEASE, where the club head speed max out matters a lot.
hitting
mid |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 43 what i meant is range before course play takes longer time.
recently i usually go directly to first tee, just like you.
it seems that i start to find my best&consistent swing ever after
4 year casual golfing. with swing in better shape, i don't find range
course differ that much.
a little bit show off or some self learning experience sharing here:
Saturday 18 hole round at a 71.3/142 course， birdied #8 124y par3 with
6ft putt; lip out 5 ft birdie putt at #13 92y par3, miss judge the break
by a f... 阅读全帖 |
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v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 44 driving average 270 is damn impressive, as luke donald does so.
270 yard drive will enable golfer drive a lot green, for short par4 with
yardage sign anywhere from 270-320 (dogleg).
3wood should go to 250-260, this means 530 yard par5 in 2 is a possiblity,
with dogleg, 550-560 par5 in 2 is possible too.
270+ occassionally would make me happy already. |
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l**********e
发帖数: 459 | 45 Thanks. Well said. I am quite fine with my iron distance up to #5iron. But I
lose distance in my 3wood and driver. That is why I wanna spend time to
correct my swing.
assume
have
wrist
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 46 9 个洞 －1
2 birdie, 1 bogey.
可惜后来有事没有打后9
Las Positas Golf Course, livermore CA 是一个相对容易的场地，选了黑T，rating/
slope 也不是很低
一上来其实不好，因为背伤没有好，DRIVE打不好，372的 slight dogleg right，用
driver开球后，还剩230, 3woods 抢了200, 结果到20－30的沙坑，沙坑救球也没上
green，在green边，原来打算一切一推保个bogey开场，结果切完，球很神奇的滚滚，
结果滚进去了，par
第二个洞是 515的par5，靠100的approaching, 3上,1推，birdie
从那开始，接下来可谓神勇加神勇， 唯一一个bogey是194的par3，开球开过了，一切
中旗杆，4~5尺，2putt
golf真是很神奇，原来只是打算恢复背伤，打打练习球，结果如有神助，打了我的最好
9洞成绩 |
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b********l
发帖数: 84 | 47 场上9洞试了一下新动作。效果确实好多了。
拿了3个par, 3 bogeys（其中一洞3putts), 2 double(每个洞都有一个+2的ob), 1
blow up(2 ob 加上运气不好， 树干边， 又进沙坑， 3putts).
算8 penalty strokes 正好50. 感觉击球提高很多， 3wood 和5/6 i都用上了。ob 损
伤得分太多。即使这样也比我调整前的得分好些。
第一ob 是在第四洞想把driver 调直， 结果调过度pull left. 其他ob 也是pull left.
调整的主要体会是 上杆时球杆跟手臂的角度（感觉有个最佳角度，不合适的角度容易
导致球杆跟身体转动脱节，特别手腕乱动） |
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c******s
发帖数: 5583 | 48 我都有，callaway 3wood大概250 yard左右，3 hybrid只能200 yard左右，但是3
hybrid更容易hit。 也可能是我hybrid用的比较差，我的4 iron大概220 yard， 比
hybrid远。 |
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s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 49 good point. can you recommend a good 3wood?
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 50 I really dont know what I did right for my woods. I hit my own 3wood well.
It is an old model from Taylormade.
so even i recommend it, you would not get it right now. Mine was Taylormade
CGB R7
But in general, I have seen others' comments. recommend for Titleist 910 or
913 fairway woods, and TaylorMade RBZ woods. |
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