s*******t 发帖数: 2896 | 1 16x19(或者18)打不了placement是真的有体会。任何时候总得旋着打,否则没速度,没
角度,没成功率,正在习惯中。
18x20上旋没那么不堪,我就爱用18x20(或者19)搞上旋。
每球必上旋,或者有此意愿的话,那就16x18吧。 |
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s*******t 发帖数: 2896 | 2 晕,到底18x20还是16x20啊?
BLX Six.One 95我就看到18x20和16x18两种啊。怎么搞出16x20来? |
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r******h 发帖数: 248 | 4 这个18x20的控制好到底是什么?难道是动作一定要准确才能指那打哪儿?如果那里不
对就会失控?反正我blx blade 98 18x20感觉就是加力容易出界,挥拍不及时接发球容
易下网,发球也是动作那里不对就不行。好像这个是高水平的人才能用的拍子?
还是线的原因?我得试试别的线了。 |
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 5 weapon of choice:
Wilson 6.1 95 (18x20);
-grip size 4 1/4
-string Tourna BHB7 @ 58lb
-Nov. 2013 ~ current
Wilson BLX 6.1 95 (18x20)
-grip size 4 3/8 (买的demo)
-string Tourna BHB7 @ 58lb
-Aug 2013 ~ Nov. 2013
Wilson Pro Staff 95 BLX
-grip size 4 1/4
-string: BHB7, BHB blue; Savage Black
-2012~2013
-lead tape added after 1 a month or 2 to 12 oz then to 12.3oz
Wilson BLX Blade 98
-grip size 4 1/4
-string: savage black; rpm blast; red code;
-2011~2012
Wilson NBlade 98
-grip size 4 1/4
-string: synthe... 阅读全帖 |
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 6 were you using the 16x18 or 18x20? I would be surprised to hear that 18x20
one has too much power and control is not good.... I do agree about the
ncode 6.1 95 16x18... I think I did demo that one way back, found this ball
fly on me.
good.
right |
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 7 i think both prestige and 6.1(18x20) are good racquet, both has a very
responsive
feel and good control.... but right now, i feel i need a bit less "
responsive" racquet and more "forgiving" racquet. Thus I decided to go with
Volkl Super G10.
I do think that new prestige pro is a upgrade version from my 6.1 18x20, but
i don't know how it will fair with RF97...
it |
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a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 9
哈哈是啊, 18x20的穿横线时太费事,还多。 期待你回来说说18x20 vs 16x15的感受 |
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m********d 发帖数: 1281 | 10 我看房对每个房间大小很在意,我认为以下面积或以上较靠谱
Living room 20x25
Master 18x20
Study 12x12
Guest 13x14
Bath 10x12
Kitchen 15x18 |
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k****n 发帖数: 2700 | 11 哦,没有裱过。不过我曾经有一个朋友送的小副油画,想装个框子,带玻璃的那种
在UW那边一个专门做框子的地方估价
我的画好像是18X20左右吧,估了100出头,然后我说太贵了,他说优惠,结果还是要80多
我就没做。回北京,美术馆对面全是做画框的,这么小的一个100rmb都不要 |
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l*e 发帖数: 143 | 12 (1)准备阶段
我主打,岳父母帮工。
其实不是很难,只要细心就够了,关键要作好准备,计划好工期,材料,反正这买东西方便,缺了什么随时去买,因为都是木头活,要求并不是很高,歪点斜点并无大碍,倒不了。
如果有盖的打算,就先去图书馆借一本盖车库的书,还有录像带,说的很详细,我基本是安那个步骤来的,去买package时也会给一份简单的说明,不过太简单了,而且没有图,好多名词根本看不懂,所以书和录像带一定要借,要仔细看,看明白,现在就去借,因为比较少,要排队。在4月份各个商店都要高车库促销,homedepot会优惠10%,totam免gst,所以到时会有很多人买,书和录像带很抢手。
可以在4月份把车库买了(或先交订金),先不提货,因为4月不是盖车库的时间,至少要到5月以后,因为铺水泥不能上冻。
在买之前要准备这样几件事,
1, 确定盖多大的,一般双车库最小尺寸是18x20,停两辆车有点紧张,我盖的是20x20,因为地就那么大,我的原则时尽量往大里盖,工作量并没有增加多少,但空间会大很多,但一般不要超过超过24x24,因为超过了就需要特殊的房梁。先找出你家的房屋图纸,看看地的尺寸,与邻居的line |
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b*******e 发帖数: 724 | 13
I have heard lots of good things about Big Banger, but never tried it
personally. I tried laserfibre supreme and love it. It is very soft, and
controls vibration really well. Plus the laser procedure increase the
capability of maitaining tension. I am not a string breaker, so I use 17G.
Plus my stick is 18x20, so a thinner gauge will help spin. Strongly recommend
it.
really
my
summer. |
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f**********o 发帖数: 228 | 14 very good analysis... steadiness and serve are definitely key to winning..
if you google it, there's a 2002 racquet ranking for elbow safety...
http://www.tennislovers.com/index2.htm?Content/elbowsr.htm
i use a prince TT warrior (11.7oz, 95, cheapest "player" racquet from tt
warehouse) and it feels great especially on slice. i also got a ncode team
18x20 as a gift but it has less spin.. (i had to use heat shrinks to change
the grip from 1/4 to 5/8) never had much elbow/shoulder pain except for
c |
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r******l 发帖数: 196 | 15 Oversized racquet with 18X20 is okay for top spin players. Top spin is
generated by the racquet swinging pattern. A 16X19 string pattern may give
you better bite of the ball, which you can achieve by using a thinner string
(G17).
But you may complain for the durability if the string is thin. Some of my
friends use kevlar for the main string and any synthetic for the cross
string but with gauge 17 to play powerful top spin, it is more durable but
the feel may not be that good - kevlar is very |
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N******y 发帖数: 71 | 16 Ok. I did not ues natrual gut before. It is the reviews I got from
Tenniswarehouse.
If you use a combo with natural gut and syn gut, you could work out your own
. I never tried that approach. Most people use polyester in the main and gut
/synthetic gut in the cross.
As long as syn gut, there is no comparison.
BTW, if you use an open string racket like 16X18, you can use just syn gut.
This string is probably suitable for tight bed like 18X20. |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 17 Strung my mgpm with this yesterday:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageACWILSON-BBACETCH18.html
18 gauge for main, 16 for cross. My racquet is pretty low-powered, 93" head
with a 18x20 string pattern, so I figured using a thinner gauge main will
open up the string pattern a little and give it a bit more power/spin as
well.
I strung it 55lb, and hit with it for maybe 1.5hrs. Wow it feels great!
Good, satisfying "pop", control and power - just what a full set of poly
should be. Not partic |
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h****z 发帖数: 2009 | 18 MID is 93 sq inch, and heaviest among the three. Pro is 0.3 oz heavier as I
know, and string pattern is 16x19 vs 18x20. How do you feel about your MP?
their |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 19 haha, that's the big hole racket right?
It's also time consuming to string a dense (18x20) and small (93") head -
with poly strings by the time I'm done with the crosses, my finger tip
really hurts...
to |
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h****z 发帖数: 2009 | 20 拍子是head microgel prestige MP(18x20), 要求尽量耐用(半年以上),手感稍好。
卖家不知道缠的什么线,感觉还行,就是两周就断了。我另外的拍子apdc(16x19)缠
的是alu big banger rough,很耐用,就怕到这个拍子上感觉不好. |
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h****z 发帖数: 2009 | 21 我试过speed MP(16x19),很不喜欢,就换了把prestige MP,慢慢的喜欢上他了,准备
作为主力,另外18x20的控制确实比16x19好
它。 |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 22 both 18x20 and Head, no? |
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a******n 发帖数: 5925 | 23 看看那些个弦。。。
都是歪瓜列找的。。。
还是上个18x20的拍子吧
我的k95基本上打好久我才拨一下弦
平时拿出来基本上弦都是齐的。
准。 |
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w***z 发帖数: 1158 | 24 Wilson K Factor KSix-One 95 (18x20) |
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t****i 发帖数: 4225 | 25 ATP Player Racquet
1 Federer, Roger (SUI) Wilson K Factor KSix-One Tour 90
2 Nadal, Rafael (ESP) Babolat AeroPro Drive Cortex
3 Murray, Andy (GBR) Head YOUTEK Radical Pro
4 Djokovic, Novak (SRB) Head YOUTEK Speed 18x20
5 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG) Wilson K Factor KSix-One 95
6 Roddick, Andy (USA) Babolat Pure Drive Roddick GT Plus
7 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA) Wilson K Factor Kobra Tour
8 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS) Prince Ozone Pro Tour
9 Verdasco, Fer |
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harryz (Harry) 于 (Fri Jul 31 10:30:08 2009, 美东) 提到:
拍子是head microgel prestige MP(18x20), 要求尽量耐用(半年以上),手感稍好。
卖家不知道缠的什么线,感觉还行,就是两周就断了。我另外的拍子apdc(16x19)缠
的是alu big banger rough,很耐用,就怕到这个拍子上感觉不好.
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KennyD (|-==-|) 于 (Fri Jul 31 10:46:14 2009, 美东) 提到:
Co-ask. The recommendation should work on my Radical too.
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dupont (rich) 于 (Fri Jul 31 11:11:49 2009, 美东) 提到:
ALU rough s |
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venus (nene) 于 (Thu Aug 13 14:04:51 2009, 美东) 提到:
上周五,一朋友demo了这个拍子,回家前也挥了15分钟。
比K90只轻了15克,但是感觉轻了很多。
个人体会
优点:stiffness比较舒服,继承了LM的传统。重量适中,击球很精确(在挥完重拍子
,再挥轻拍
子),控制稳定。
缺点:缺乏力量(掺杂有球线磅数和球软硬度问题),网前球不如K90稳。
如果我现在开始打网球(单反),我会给自己推荐K95或者这款拍子。
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harryz (Harry) 于 (Thu Aug 13 14:19:06 2009, 美东) 提到:
我用mp(98,18x20),适应了感觉很好,换了ALU rough后感觉更好了,目前作为主力,
等年底降价再考虑进一个。
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dupont (rich) 于 (Thu |
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summer2007 (夏天) 于 (Sun Aug 16 11:09:16 2009, 美东) 提到:
一直用的是HEAD OS L5, FULL SWING. 总脚着发球和主动发力时球速不够快.想尝试一
下小拍面的.
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tenfei (go for it) 于 (Sun Aug 16 11:09:54 2009, 美东) 提到:
Kfactor sixone 95
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summer2007 (夏天) 于 (Sun Aug 16 11:38:01 2009, 美东) 提到:
要200刀, 够贵的.不知道KFACTOR的前身是什么model.
TW上查了一下, 有两种线距的, 16X18 和18X20.不知道有多大区别.
12.3 OZ, 俺现在的Radical OS 是10.4 OZ. 真重不少.
另外产品描述里竟然直接说适 |
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l*******s 发帖数: 31 | 29 (1)Head MicroGel Radical Mid Plus Tennis Racquet
Racquet Specifications
· Headsize: 98 sq. in.
· Length: 27.00 in.
· Weight (strung): 11.00 oz.
· Stiffness (Babolat RDC): 58
· Balance: 13.29 in. Head Light
· Cross Section: 21mm Straight Beam
· Swingweight: 321 kg*sq. cm
· String Pattern: 18x20
· Grip: Head HydroSorb
(2)Babolat Pure Storm Tour GT Tennis Racquet
Racquet Specifications
· Headsize: 98 sq. in.
· Length: 27.0 |
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c*****a 发帖数: 401 | 30 wow~
I liked my new speed 18x20 |
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J****0 发帖数: 2400 | 31 Safin uses 18x20 and he generates powerful topspin whenever he wants it. |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 32 I used Head LM Radical MP (18x20), horrible backhand.
Now I switched to Prince Magnesium Pro 110 (similar to POG, 16x19),
feel much better, but still crappy backhand. |
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t*****n 发帖数: 40 | 33 单反不应只用topspin来衡量。 Flat一点的单反更暴力。 我认识的单反(包括我自己)
, 都用 18x20. 个人认为单反的弱点在于处理高球。大拍面16x19只是打出来的球
Style不同而已。另外如果你觉得需要肌肉力量才能打出漂亮的单反,那你的form肯定
不对。 |
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 34 试完了给大家说说感想。Speed MP 你为什么不是是18x20的? 和16x19 有什么区别?偶
正想换拍呢,对你的这几把拍都很感兴趣。谢谢! |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 35 From physics point of view, 18*20 has better control, 16*19 has
better spin, if everything else equal.
Better control majorly means better directional control. |
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 36 Then how do you gain control over depth? With less spin, it's more likely to
go long. |
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i**********o 发帖数: 5993 | 37 wont necessarily go long if you ocntrol well
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v***s 发帖数: 1893 | 40 如果其它参数都一样的话
18×20,控制比较好,网前不容易吃球,
16×18,相同力量击球,弹性会更好。打出的球,容易出旋转。但是网前容易吃球,比
如强烈上旋来球,你网前按平时角度一挡,容易出界;下旋球,送的不够,容易下网。 |
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w*******y 发帖数: 184 | 41 上次有ID说单反应该用16x18(19),是因为这样单反打出来力量大嘛? |
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 42 MP比pro好打很多。MP是18x20,control极好,适合主动发力的power。spin比16x19略
差,不过打硬地足够了。所有demo过两把拍子的,都说MP是youtek prestige系列里最
好的 |
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 43 拍面大很多,甜点大很多,基本不会miss hit,打框上什么的。由于是18x20,线床的密
度和k90差不多,所以control一样好。同时由于拍面大,球在拍面上滚动的距离可以更
长,所以需要时也可以产生更多旋转。它比k90略轻,所以更容易挥拍,容易产生更高
的拍头速度,在网前也更灵活。k90做那么沉是用来对付5.5以上的超级重球的,尤其是
接发球时。一般5.0以下的球,prestige的重量足够保证稳定性了。当然还有head吹嘘
的3do材料,可以让拍子的硬度根据你挥拍速度改变,让你在需要feel时拍子足够软,
需要power是拍子足够硬。说实话这个俺倒是没办法证实,因为这个太主观了,没有客
观的科学测试。不过感觉上倒是像是有这么回事。 |
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w******n 发帖数: 13172 | 44 俺demo过这把。actually我是一次同时demo了4把,youtek speed MP 18×20, 16X19,
prestige mp (18x20),prestige pro (16x19)。speed系列真是非常难打,拍面很大,
但是甜点反而很小,而且感觉比较硬,俺试了几下就pass了。prestige mp和pro倒是反
复试了很久,最后觉得还是mp好。可能各人打法不同,感觉也不同,不过俺是再不会碰
speed系列了。
p.s. speed pro俺以前也demo过,比speed mp要好很多,但是就是太重了,简直重的变
态,底线还可以将就,网前根本挥不动。所以俺觉得speed系列估计不会出现在下个产
品更新里了。到现在唯一号称用speed的就只有小德,但是估计也是假的,paint job而
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j**c 发帖数: 234 | 45 Extreme pro (16x19) might be a little more spin-friendly than Prestige
(18x20). Sunday, I hit with a former D1 player whose groundies constantly
kicked up to my shoulder high. He hits with a microgel Extreme pro and
full western grip. Maybe it's Extreme pro or maybe it's his techniques... |
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Y**s 发帖数: 1632 | 46 lol yea that's my dilemma with poly as well - feel like should change string
but the damn thing just won't break...
Even worse on my mgpm - 93 head with 18x20 string pattern. with poly
strings that thing would NEVER break... |
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 47 Yes, 18x20 is good for string duration. But does it matter to 暴力男? Should
暴力男 be 遇神杀神,遇佛杀佛?
男 |
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s*********d 发帖数: 2406 | 48 USRSA评测基本上是最准的
presitge MPspeedMP(18X20) speed(16X19)
power 1987 2084 1992
Swingweight 312 311 310
stiff 65 67 63
weight 331 329 331
balance 32.10 32.9 32.10
说实在造拍的误差都比这个要大。+-5-10g太正常了
特别是 pretige mp 和 speed 16X19
基本上一样。
你的感觉差别大很大程度上因为自我感觉还有线的不同上吧 。 |
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m**k 发帖数: 1008 | 49 这拍子是 PLUS 尺寸的. 不是MIDSIZE. 很便宜, 把手做工有问题, 基本是RECALL货.
真正Dunlop M-Fil 200 是 18X20 |
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R*****d 发帖数: 615 | 50 (本文纯属无片片的真相,如有不信,请当胡侃。)
首先,我要对版上的pusher们道歉,我不应该说我b4 pusher,一个好的pusher,能让
一场看似平庸的比赛变成难忘的回忆。而且,虽然我号称追求暴力,但是当各种暴力手
段受到吸心大法般的顽强抵抗的时候,我是那么自然的,就像玉米馅的饺子吃腻了换个
韭菜馅的一样,把自己变成了一个pusher。
昨天晚上,Kswiss 3.5 Playoff第二轮。对手是个高高的年轻人,我以为肯定是网前高
手,一打才发现,竟然是上一轮对手的加强版。发球,底线正反手都狠一点而且稳一点
,最重要的是,月亮球飞得更高更深更长久。
我开始还想继续暴力。可是发生了一件很杯具的事情,我的Wilson K95丢了,估计是上
场比赛赢得太爽忘在球场,这把我郁闷坏了。比赛只能用老拍Liquimetal Radical MP
,Power小了很多,发球一下回到解放前。上旋也因为string pattern从16x18变成
18x20而减少,平击球下网的特别多。还不知为何,小斜线的inside out也不够斜了。
对手比上一个厉害的地方是,给我的浅球少多了,而且正手特别能救 |
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